https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7A0S7UbXyY
God gets mad a lot.
I suggest you not make Aquaman mad ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y5KiKKCD7A
Don't hold back, get Kraken ;-)
Quote from: Cassia on September 01, 2020, 04:07:08 PM
God gets mad a lot.
And he hates whatever his followers don't like. Because if they said they dislike something, that's be a matter of subjective opinion and open to debate. But if they said that an unchallengeable authority like God dislikes something, well then that's just a matter of fact and should be obeyed.
Quote from: Hydra009 on September 01, 2020, 10:52:40 PM
And he hates whatever his followers don't like. Because if they said they dislike something, that's be a matter of subjective opinion and open to debate. But if they said that an unchallengeable authority like God dislikes something, well then that's just a matter of fact and should be obeyed.
As opposed to my feels says it is OK or my commissar says it is OK? There is no basis for any morality, legality or ethics. Those are Beta gambits to disarm the Alphas (see Nietzsche).
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Quote from: GSOgymrat on September 02, 2020, 11:50:02 AM
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When people do something, it isn't for any reason, because people are just clouds of atoms.
Quote from: Cassia on September 01, 2020, 04:07:08 PM
God gets mad a lot.
LOL'ed. My mind is surrounded by the words I don't know in English, but I can't find anything satisfying.
In my mother tongue we call people who can't handle a natural situations in life and give a violent reaction because of their inferiority complex, underdevelopment of a specific kind: 'çapsız'. This word is the exact equivalent of the expression 'without any diameter' in English. (Word for word in one word.) In this context, the meaning is that the entity -whatever it is- so small and poor of quality in essence, it can't deal with anything standard in life.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on September 02, 2020, 02:14:17 PM
LOL'ed. My mind is surrounded by the words I don't know in English, but I can't find anything satisfying.
In my mother tongue we call people who can't handle a natural situations in life and give a violent reaction because of their inferiority complex, underdevelopment of a specific kind: 'çapsız'. This word is the exact equivalent of the expression 'without any diameter' in English. (Word for word in one word.) In this context, the meaning is that the entity -whatever it is- so small and poor of quality in essence, it can't deal with anything standard in life.
Can you handle a death in your family?
Quote from: Baruch on September 02, 2020, 02:19:32 PM
Can you handle a death in your family?
With all the life experience you had, you should know any hypothetical answer to this is bullshit. Do I think I can? Yes.
But you know what the ancient world says. Doesn't matter when you actually get the 'fact' that your father is dead, in 10 seconds or in ten years after he died, you do grow up at that moment.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on September 02, 2020, 02:24:55 PM
With all the life experience you had, you should know any hypothetical answer to this is bullshit. Do I think I can? Yes.
But you know what the ancient world says. Doesn't matter when you actually get the 'fact' that your father is dead, in 10 seconds or in ten years after he died, you do grow up at that moment.
Most of us will never experience a natural disaster, but something closer to home ...
What rites to the dead? Family organization is tricky.
The five stages of grief are:
denial.
anger.
bargaining.
depression.
acceptance.
One has individual and family trauma to deal with. This is in the context of very deep culture (birth, marriage, death). Not saying atheists don't grieve, but the anger/bargaining stages seem problematic.
Quote from: Baruch on September 02, 2020, 02:50:03 PM
Most of us will never experience a natural disaster, but something closer to home ...
What rites to the dead? Family organization is tricky.
The five stages of grief are:
denial.
anger.
bargaining.
depression.
acceptance.
One has individual and family trauma to deal with. This is in the context of very deep culture (birth, marriage, death). Not saying atheists don't grieve, but the anger/bargaining stages seem problematic.
Stop projecting. Theists and religious people almost always have more problems with personal traumas. By nature of your belief and world vision what happens to you is a part of something that is decided or a part of a system that is somehow determined to happen. You are always more affected by the opinion of the society or the community you live in. Do we look like we give a damn? Seriously? Me, Baruch. You know where I live. Everyone knows what I am since I was a kid. Don't give me the crap of 'the fine line' between destiny and free will.
Nonbelievers are always more likely to see anything happens to them or in general as a result and consequences of countless variables (e:lol, I wrote variations); basic life. They don't need to be enlightened or 'believe' in science either. Don't give me the crap of 'there is no difference, human culture changing over milennia' with the former either.
Your corpse has a meaning to you believers, ffs. A simple example, from real life, as you've been bitching all about. I have donated my body to medicine to be cut in pieces and sewn over and over again, years ago. When I am dead, they'll take my corpse straight to a morgue of a university hospital for years till no mm of flesh or organ is left to cut. We have very little donation of the kind.
Here is your question, old man. Can you deal with your own
death corpse to be treated as the meat it is, when you are dead? Don't give me 'it is not my body but my soul' crap.
Because it seems to me that the believers of any kind are the only people who can't deal with death -esp. with their own- considering they all have some sort of an idea on what is to come afterwards.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on September 02, 2020, 02:14:17 PM
LOL'ed. My mind is surrounded by the words I don't know in English, but I can't find anything satisfying.
In my mother tongue we call people who can't handle a natural situations in life and give a violent reaction because of their inferiority complex, underdevelopment of a specific kind: 'çapsız'. This word is the exact equivalent of the expression 'without any diameter' in English. (Word for word in one word.) In this context, the meaning is that the entity -whatever it is- so small and poor of quality in essence, it can't deal with anything standard in life.
So basically, God is a needle dick?
Nonbelievers are always more likely to see anything happens to them or in general as a result and consequences of countless variables
Well said ! Countless variables plus your own influence. I never have to wonder if god is mad at me and conversely I don't need to blame any god for bad luck. I have lived through many hurricanes and common sense sure helps one's odds. Death is what makes life so valuable. This living forever idea is for childish minds and diminishes the value of life. How else to get peoples' devotion and sway them to fight your wars if you don't promise them "heavenly" rewards?
Quote from: Cassia on September 02, 2020, 04:24:09 PM
Nonbelievers are always more likely to see anything happens to them or in general as a result and consequences of countless variables
... plus your own influence.
[*whispers] That's included in the countless variables. [*whispers]
Ha ... I am not projecting. Psychology isn't covert theism. Culture isn't covert racism.
Childish views of afterlife, are ... childish. When y'all were babies you shit yourselves. Can I denigrate you about that now?
I don't see reality as linear, I don't see identity as absolute. I don't see life as rational. But I don't expect to wake up after death, as a favorite Pokemon animal. So what is it with adults who hate childishness, do they also hate children? Adults do tend toward serious superiority complexes. Part of the "I am a god compared to my ancestors" view. Can you wake up and smell the insecurity underlying the superiority complex? An adult is a senile psychotic baby.
In earliest times, we simply abandoned bodies out in the open for the carrion to eat, or for us to eat. Eventually we Neanderthals (before modern man) had ceremonies and burials for leaders. Later there were cremations but there still might be burial goods for the afterlife. People would have a wake in honor of the deceased. Yes, all so primitive. Materialists want to be as insensitive as pre-Neanderthals. Like degenerate Planet Of The Apes humans, who have lost all culture, even language.
Modern man couldn't survive a week in nature ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPuXN6VYZQw
Nothing like that look on the face of a child when you read them "Twas the night before Christmas". The same look that Christian adults have when they stare at the preacher. An hour after service the preacher is cuckolding his wife with the pool guy.
Are atheists superior? In that regard, why yes, we are by far. Of course I don't hate children. You just have to know how to cook them.
All atheists LARP at being cannibals and satanists? Haha. And all clergy are sexual predators? Really. I love the look on adults watching their favorite sport team ... such primitive tribalism, that I am so much superior to ;-)
Quote from: Baruch on September 02, 2020, 08:56:46 PM
All atheists LARP at being cannibals and satanists? Haha. And all clergy are sexual predators? Really. I love the look on adults watching their favorite sport team ... such primitive tribalism, that I am so much superior to ;-)
We are scary and we like it that way...
I have a friend who is in the Jehovah Witness protection program. She says her ex-family all have that 100 mile stare from being completely brainwashed. Now that IS scary.
Quote from: Cassia on September 02, 2020, 09:57:04 PM
We are scary and we like it that way...
I have a friend who is in the Jehovah Witness protection program. She says her ex-family all have that 100 mile stare from being completely brainwashed. Now that IS scary.
The JWs are something else, but they aren't very deep (so my Ex says). Like Mormon missionaries are too. There is a difference between knowledge and understanding. Propaganda only works on knowledge (caging it). Understanding defeats propaganda. This is why the young make the best missionaries. There are versions of this in the New Japanese religions.
Quote from: Cassia on September 02, 2020, 08:02:54 PM
Nothing like that look on the face of a child when you read them "Twas the night before Christmas". The same look that Christian adults have when they stare at the preacher. An hour after service the preacher is cuckolding his wife with the pool guy.
Are atheists superior? In that regard, why yes, we are by far. Of course I don't hate children. You just have to know how to cook them.
Very familiar. ... How they manage to resemble each other (with the other ones here) that much I have no idea. And that makes it more creepy and scary.
Quote from: Baruch on September 02, 2020, 05:52:38 PM
Ha ... I am not projecting. Psychology isn't covert theism. Culture isn't covert racism.
Childish views of afterlife, are ... childish. When y'all were babies you shit yourselves. Can I denigrate you about that now?
I don't see reality as linear, I don't see identity as absolute. I don't see life as rational. But I don't expect to wake up after death, as a favorite Pokemon animal. So what is it with adults who hate childishness, do they also hate children? Adults do tend toward serious superiority complexes. Part of the "I am a god compared to my ancestors" view. Can you wake up and smell the insecurity underlying the superiority complex? An adult is a senile psychotic baby.
You are a theist, not a deist. You do believe that the system is governed in some way which makes it hierarchical, with humans on top. That is superiority complex by definition.
You don't like atheists because they come from a higher context in general. That is what you confuse with superiority complex. It's not feeling superior you idiot. It is just not feeling anything mumbo jumbo as in terms of you do. And also you can be sure atheists are the first lot to watch the impressions of their ancestors and get emotional with it. Considering just a small group of your lot got used to the monkey business and much much later...
And yes you are projecting.
I have a very religious sister, who like most only reads the parts of the babble her minister uses as motivation to give more money. She once posted some bull shit about disasters et al, and I suggested we could insulate ourselves simply by riding around in a chariot with iron wheels.....no idea what I was talking about.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on September 03, 2020, 12:59:42 AM
You are a theist, not a deist. You do believe that the system is governed in some way which makes it hierarchical, with humans on top. That is superiority complex by definition.
You don't like atheists because they come from a higher context in general. That is what you confuse with superiority complex. It's not feeling superior you idiot. It is just not feeling anything mumbo jumbo as in terms of you do. And also you can be sure atheists are the first lot to watch the impressions of their ancestors and get emotional with it. Considering just a small group of your lot got used to the monkey business and much much later...
And yes you are projecting.
Correct. You actually paid attention all these years ;-) If you aren't a crown predator, then you are a very smart gerbil, not a human. If you want to do a Buddha Jataka tale where you feel sorry for a mother tiger, and feed yourself to her, go ahead ;-)) I like everyone (laughs and tears), but I don't like what they do sometimes. If you are a criminal, rebel, traitor, terrorist or some other sociopath, I recognize that as a mental illness, but I don't like what you do.
Yes, I am able, amateur that I am, to notice the obvious live psych tropes that people express. These are lols. The superstitious atheist, the crazy rationalist ... you, being a mature secular person ... just expressed that you are trans-human, beyond any psychology ... lol. Your "critical theory" probably comes from a book written by Lysenko.
I assume people are freely expressing themselves, and I can't ignore the empirical evidence of their humanity. Not projection, fact.
Quote from: aitm on September 03, 2020, 06:53:49 AM
I have a very religious sister, who like most only reads the parts of the babble her minister uses as motivation to give more money. She once posted some bull shit about disasters et al, and I suggested we could insulate ourselves simply by riding around in a chariot with iron wheels.....no idea what I was talking about.
Chariot with iron wheels? So you are part of the army of Hazor under general Sisera? Best you avoid Jewish girls named Deborah, or seek shelter in the tent of Jael!
Quote from: Hydra009 on September 01, 2020, 10:52:40 PM
And he hates whatever his followers don't like. Because if they said they dislike something, that's be a matter of subjective opinion and open to debate. But if they said that an unchallengeable authority like God dislikes something, well then that's just a matter of fact and should be obeyed.
One of the opening scenes of the movie "Kingdom of Heaven". Gawd wills it. Gawd wills it. Gawd wills it
Quote from: fencerider on October 07, 2020, 10:56:35 PM
One of the opening scenes of the movie "Kingdom of Heaven". Gawd wills it. Gawd wills it. Gawd wills it
G-d does. But I have yet to forgive ;-) Looks like a case of cosmic irresponsibility.
Just finished watching the director's cut of that movie, after seeing a "reveal" about one of the characters I posted earlier. Coincidence I assure you.
"San Francisco archbishop holds exorcism where protesters toppled Junipero Serra statue" ... statue was projectile vomiting pea soup ;-)
On a similar note, some heretics defiled a Catholic altar, by having sex on it. The altar will be burned.
A few years ago sharing a drink and a pizza with some friends. It is a noisy place but I get asked "so what happened to you that you are so mad at gawd"? WTF? I was not in the mood and just pretended I didn't hear.
Quote from: Cassia on October 19, 2020, 07:01:06 AM
A few years ago sharing a drink and a pizza with some friends. It is a noisy place but I get asked "so what happened to you that you are so mad at gawd"? WTF? I was not in the mood and just pretended I didn't hear.
My Scotsman friend … if you think that G-d is responsible for everything, the death of his little girl was enough.
Quote from: Cassia on October 19, 2020, 07:01:06 AM
A few years ago sharing a drink and a pizza with some friends. It is a noisy place but I get asked "so what happened to you that you are so mad at gawd"? WTF? I was not in the mood and just pretended I didn't hear.
I don't know why it's so hard for Christians to understand the idea of, "I don't believe in any gods." But I wasn't any better when I was a Christian, either. I'm glad I got better.
Personally, I'm not mad at God. Obviously, because I don't believe he exists. But I do feel betrayed by those who made me believe in him. I feel wronged for wasting so much of my time and energy building a relationship with someone who doesn't even exist. So many emotions were tied up in my idea of God. I was trained to find comfort in him, even though I never heard a word from him. When my eyes were finally opened to the deception, I realized I was left with no one but myself, because I prioritized God over real people.
Your parents always betray you. Those damn adults. Have you killed your parents yet?
Quote from: Cassia on October 19, 2020, 07:01:06 AM
A few years ago sharing a drink and a pizza with some friends. It is a noisy place but I get asked "so what happened to you that you are so mad at gawd"? WTF? I was not in the mood and just pretended I didn't hear.
If they were to ask me that question I'd ask them in return what happened to them to make them so mad at Santa Claus.
;-D