So, these Android consoles are fairly close to seeing the light of day and it's not looking good. A youtuber whom I tend to watch too much has reviewed one because he already found one in a second hand store.
[youtube:3vv8t48e]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf_jmGaanuY[/youtube:3vv8t48e]
The whole Android console market seems to be a solution that is searching for a problem. We like to play video games. If they make something that plays cool games, we'll buy it to play the cool games. And that's where it falls down.
[youtube:3vv8t48e]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAuws-RcQXg[/youtube:3vv8t48e]
Of the five major Android consoles, only Nvidia's Project Shield has unveiled any real games of any note. Problem is, Project Shield is almost as expensive as a Playstation 4. Most of them will run regular Android games. For some, they require some finagling to load the games because regular Android games aren't available on their shops. But who wants to play phone games on their television?
The idea of a cheaper console is still a good idea, but the idea needs some talent to back it up and get people to buy it.
Oddly, Android is also moving into the PC arena with these mini-PC's.
[youtube:3vv8t48e]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAxJ5rzAUIc[/youtube:3vv8t48e]
Plug a dongle into your massive fuckoff living room TV and it'll turn into... well, not a full PC, maybe, but a Smart TV, surely. And it will no doubt play games as well. The unit in the video cost $99.99 on Amazon, currently discounted to $62.73. So about the same as a Ouya and it'll do everything on more-or-less stock Android right out of the box. No ghost town Ouya store. Chances are, if Android becomes the new king of platforms replacing even the mighty PC and Windows, it will be because of things like this.
What I'm interested in is things like this:
[youtube:3vv8t48e]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HjnZkSZMaw[/youtube:3vv8t48e]
Call me predictable.
Why doesn't the Ouya have the regular android app store? You'd expect them to at least include that (or at least the free games on it) just to make sure they actually have stuff to play.
Husband's been playing with it for a few days to review it.
And . . . yeah. Not looking very good at all.
Quote from: "Princess Megatron"Husband's been playing with it for a few days to review it.
And . . . yeah. Not looking very good at all.
Pity that as he was supportive of the concept of it, at least.
I think it basically boils down that they need to get some good games. Period. People bought the Atari VCS to play Space Invader and later because they heard Pac-man was coming out for it. I bought an NES because Nintendo cagily put Super Mario Bros. in the arcade in their Vs. line I recently picked up a 3DS just because I wanted to play Luigi's Mansion. I'm now experiencing heroic levels of buyer's remorse since there doesn't seem to be much else for the thing I want to play, and this includes DS titles. These consoles were sold because they had a game on them that people just had to play and they needed to get the console to play it. With Android... you can just use your phone or tablet. You don't need a console for that. Many phones and tablets have HDMI out, so it is an Ouya already. Get a controller and you're all set.
I can understand why they made it Android since it was already a popular and open source operating system, but that's also its Achilles heel. Android is everywhere. So you don't need an Ouya or a Gamestick of a Gamepop or a, god help us, M.O.J.O. to play those games. Oh, they're getting exclusive titles, but until those show up, they are less than smoke.
I'd like to see someone besides the big three make a console that wasn't Android but had some nifty games you need to play. That would be a real revolution.
It seems a shame. It's hard to get enough people on board that you can create the hardware and the games to make it work. Especially on a platform that allows you to launch the game you made just for the Ouya on basically anything with a processing chip.
Conceptually, having an open source console that comes with loads of free games is great. In practice, most people want big budget titles, so there's not a lot of market for it, it seems.
Know what, Ouya could be the M Night Shyamalan of video games. I'll explain.
I have a theory that m Night Shyamalan's particular talents lend him to a smaller niche audience. I could see him as one of those low-budget arty film makers that had a small but loyal group of fans. His films tend to need to be seen from just the right angle or else they fall apart. Problem is, he made Sixth Sense and it was a mainstream hit. He gained a much, much wider audience than he really needed or could maintain. Sixth Sense had the similar look-at-it-right problem but it was easy for the average person to do so with this film. But he just couldn't maintain that accessibility and his career because a Hollywood train wreck. How much better would it be for him if he had not made Sixth Sense. He'd still be making movies, but for that smaller audience that actually gets what he does and he wouldn't be a joke.
That's kind of what the Ouya is. It's really a niche market piece, probably more like that GCW Zero than they'd care to admit. The Zero is definitely a niche market device since it was made specifically to run emulators, but it will also have some original games on it as well. That right there is an apt description of the Ouya's capabilities and its place in the market. But they found a market that was wider than what they could actually service or satisfy, so now they're a joke, like M Night Shyamalan.
I suppose the lesson here is that if you plan to Kickstart a console, you need to either make it an emulator machine or develop a handful of launch titles along with it. That's the only way to add value to your console. If you don't have at least one good launch title, then don't even bother getting a Kickstarter page because it will end badly and when that killer app arrives, it will be too little too late.
Yeah, I fear you might be right. Unless they get a really impressive title out really soon, they're going to have a hard time.
Unfortunately I don't have the skill-set right now to develop one, or I'd have given it a shot. I really want them to succeed because it's conceptually a really cool thing. But I do fear it's going to be a niche thing for a while. At least until they can get an accidental indie superhit on there that'll make people consider buying one.
But it'll have to be made by someone who's willing to leave his killer game available only on a niche-device for a few months, instead of immediately porting it to everything that runs android... which would be business suicide I fear. So yeah.
They might actually end up being destroyed by the very thing they're to promote; open sourcing and portability.
Quote from: "Plu"I really want them to succeed because it's conceptually a really cool thing.
You know, in execution, they are the Mr Beer of home brewing.
I discovered this cool thing which is something an electronics dude put together as a project to do with his kids. This is even more niche, but there's something cool about it as well.
[youtube:1fcjku05]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hge8YI_iDs[/youtube:1fcjku05]
[youtube:1fcjku05]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTmny5YwCiE[/youtube:1fcjku05]
Yeah. It's available as a kit and you need to assemble it. The programing environment is Arduino, or something like that. Seems like a cool thing. I would like to learn to do this to try my hand at it. I'm likely to make something shitty.
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Quote from: "Bookaroo"I know this post can look like spam
No shit.
This is the console that was suppose to make me feel bad about being a Playstation "fanboy" and a terrible person for buying games I like?
Ouch.
Penny Arcade had an interesting take on it.
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It kinda looks worthwhile for that feature alone.
Yeah, I have a gameboy for that.
I didn't know you could play mario64 on a gameboy :o
Well, there is a DS release of Mario 64, but I digress.
the problem with emulators as a selling point is that, well, if you can figure out how to get them to run on an Ouya, you can get them to run on you PC, which you'll need to find the ROMs in the first place. In that case, you can run emulators on your PC, hook that up to your TV, buy some controllers, and you're all set. So, personally, I don't find the Ouya an attractive emulation solution.
Quote from: "the_antithesis"Well, there is a DS release of Mario 64, but I digress.
the problem with emulators as a selling point is that, well, if you can figure out how to get them to run on an Ouya, you can get them to run on you PC, which you'll need to find the ROMs in the first place. In that case, you can run emulators on your PC, hook that up to your TV, buy some controllers, and you're all set. So, personally, I don't find the Ouya an attractive emulation solution.
Yep, if I ever wanted to play those games I could just get an emulator. Or just pull out my n64 :P.
Quote from: "Shiranu"Quote from: "the_antithesis"Well, there is a DS release of Mario 64, but I digress.
the problem with emulators as a selling point is that, well, if you can figure out how to get them to run on an Ouya, you can get them to run on you PC, which you'll need to find the ROMs in the first place. In that case, you can run emulators on your PC, hook that up to your TV, buy some controllers, and you're all set. So, personally, I don't find the Ouya an attractive emulation solution.
Yep, if I ever wanted to play those games I could just get an emulator. Or just pull out my n64 :P.
Save state is awesome to the point that I shun the original consoles.
Also, "run at maximum possible speed" to move quickly through the boring parts.
While on the one hand, putting all these games on PC emulators is cool, I would totally be willing to spend 60$ (which is about the difference between a new Ouya and buying a controller and the 30+ ft of cable needed to hook my pc into my tv) to get all that stuff fully functional and all the games in a big store instead of having to download emulators, keep them up to date, and then hunt for ROMs.
I have no idea if the Ouya does make it that easy, but if it does that'd certainly be worthwhile.
Quote from: "Plu"While on the one hand, putting all these games on PC emulators is cool, I would totally be willing to spend 60$ (which is about the difference between a new Ouya and buying a controller and the 30+ ft of cable needed to hook my pc into my tv) to get all that stuff fully functional and all the games in a big store instead of having to download emulators, keep them up to date, and then hunt for ROMs.
I have no idea if the Ouya does make it that easy, but if it does that'd certainly be worthwhile.
It doesn't. You still have to hunt for ROMs. The Emulators may be somewhat fiddly like they always are. So, an Ouya is not a better option when it comes to emulation. Certainly not plug & play.
I've heard that it doesn't live up to the hype at all, but if you want to emulate up to an N64 or watch video on it, it's perfect. Honestly, for $100, I feel dumb to have expected anything better.