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Title: Here's a Complaint, But With a Solution
Post by: SGOS on November 13, 2019, 05:08:13 AM
Over the last "I don't know how long" I've had serious issues with various websites, some of them very popular and important websites.  Redbox would be one, links take forever to load, and sometimes it seems like it just gets stuck because it's so slow.  It doesn't seem user friendly either.  Keep in mind, these places want to do business with you, but their websites can actually sabotage transactions.  I've been watching this get worse and worse, and it's come to a head in the last couple of months, or maybe I just ran out of patience.  My first reaction was to think that website designers must be idiots and don't have any understanding of how business and consumers want to interact.  This seems like an unfair assessment, although I still believe some designers don't quite understand this.

In somewhat of a desperate panic, after complaining to a couple of internet based businesses, I started trying strange things that seemed like silly solutions.  I was grasping at proverbial straws, and I've found a solution to the problem.  I'm not sure if it's fool proof solution, but it's worked 10 out of 10 times so far.

Are you ready for this?  OK, here it is.  Don't use Internet Explorer as your browser.  I still use it, but when I encounter a problem like those I've described, I switch over to Firefox, and things seem to work amazingly well.  Things flow along smoothly as you make selections, add necessary card numbers, etc to conduct business.  Now I've been told by a couple of people in this forum to do that, at least to stop using anything "Microsoft," but I kept using it thinking it somehow facilitated Microsoft's Flight Simulator. I don't know if Internet Explorer actually does, but Flight Simulator is dicey enough that I wanted to give it every conceivable advantage.

Firefox may not be the only solution, but it works for me, and that makes me happy.  I like it when websites make me happy.  I don't like it when they annoy me.  I like it when my browser makes me happy.  Internet Explorer annoys me, and I don't like it much anymore.
Title: Re: Here's a Complaint, But With a Solution
Post by: Hydra009 on November 13, 2019, 07:11:50 AM
Firefox and Chrome are the way to go, and have been for years.

Firefox is initially pretty light on resources, but adding a lot of extensions can diminish that somewhat.
Chrome is fast, but resource-hungry.  That joke about chrome eating all the RAM ain't no joke.

Internet Explorer is not only a bad product, but some websites don't even bother to support it anymore.  Arguably, I wouldn't use Edge either for similar reasons.
Title: Re: Here's a Complaint, But With a Solution
Post by: SGOS on November 13, 2019, 08:45:23 AM
Quote from: Hydra009 on November 13, 2019, 07:11:50 AM
Internet Explorer is not only a bad product, but some websites don't even bother to support it anymore.  Arguably, I wouldn't use Edge either for similar reasons.
I was wondering about that when I started having this problem.  One of the things I learned when I was programming was to never assume that since my program worked flawlessly on my computer, it would work on someone else's.  Test it on several computers under different conditions.  It seemed like website designers were assuming that because their site worked on the platform they used, it would work on others, and there was no reason to check.  A second hypothesis was that the current trend is to simply give up on Microsoft as useless junk.

But Microsoft is huge.  You buy a computer, it comes with Microsoft stuff.  If it's that huge, it must be because it's so versatile.  Maybe that was true at one time, and now Microsoft expects everyone to play by its rules and cater to Microsoft, and developers are thumbing their noses with a premonition that Bill Gates and his machine is on the way out, and the sooner the better.
Title: Re: Here's a Complaint, But With a Solution
Post by: Mike Cl on November 13, 2019, 09:19:20 AM
Quote from: SGOS on November 13, 2019, 08:45:23 AM
I was wondering about that when I started having this problem.  One of the things I learned when I was programming was to never assume that since my program worked flawlessly on my computer, it would work on someone else's.  Test it on several computers under different conditions.  It seemed like website designers were assuming that because their site worked on the platform they used, it would work on others, and there was no reason to check.  A second hypothesis was that the current trend is to simply give up on Microsoft as useless junk.

But Microsoft is huge.  You buy a computer, it comes with Microsoft stuff.  If it's that huge, it must be because it's so versatile.  Maybe that was true at one time, and now Microsoft expects everyone to play by its rules and cater to Microsoft, and developers are thumbing their noses with a premonition that Bill Gates and his machine is on the way out, and the sooner the better.
Long ago and in a time forgotten, I used Explorer.  I joined my favorite baseball sim league in the mid 90's.  This league is made up mostly of computer geeks in that they earn a living programming computers and maintaining web servers for various businesses.  When I began having issues accessing the Hall Of Fame League, I was advised to stop using Explorer because that was THE target for hackers and spammers.  Why, because it was the most used and easiest to hack.  Since then I've used Firefox and now Chrome.  I have had zero issues since.  Most of the guys in the league use Chrome and some use another one, of which I've forgotten the name.  Chrome it is for me.
Title: Re: Here's a Complaint, But With a Solution
Post by: Sal1981 on November 13, 2019, 09:51:25 AM
I use Internet Explorer (or Edge) to download the Chrome browser.
Title: Re: Here's a Complaint, But With a Solution
Post by: Baruch on November 13, 2019, 10:11:23 AM
There is a lot of official approved spyware in IE ... for US and Chinese government use.  Basically comm used to be a simple wiretap.  Today it is more complicated.  The security agencies of the US and China until recently have been moving lockstep to implement the Chinese-style computer dictatorship.  Huawei and 5th gen cell has been a deal breaker.  IE was steadily required to be used in US government computers for 20 years now, after the US government and Bill Gates "settled" their anti-trust complaint.  Wonder if Bill Gates had a horse head in his bed with him, one morning?  Like all government programs, the bloat just grows and grows.  Government maximizes entropy.  We did have Firefox and Chrome in my last job, but we could only use if for things IE couldn't do.  And Edge was despised by all.  I wonder if that was already unilaterally compromised by the PRC.

On the other hand, I once used a German web browser over 20 years ago, to improve speed, but it is defunct.

Chrome is by Google, and Google is by CIA.  They simply make better spyware.  Firefox being ultimately derived from the original CERN browser, is probably corrupted by MI6 or EU security agencies.

All your bits belong to us now.  Peasant bitches!
Title: Re: Here's a Complaint, But With a Solution
Post by: Feral Atheist on December 20, 2019, 04:03:02 PM
Quote from: Sal1981 on November 13, 2019, 09:51:25 AM
I use Internet Explorer (or Edge) to download the Chrome browser.
The only purpose of IE/Edge is to download a different browser.  Firefox is my preference, has features I can't add to Chrome even with addons.  More secure, more private.