https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqWqoDVRfzY
according to someone here.
I would have been upset if they wasted chocolate milkshake.
Sargon is the political equivalent of an Internet troll.
Clownworld, with bike locks.
Plenty more milkshakes where that one came from.
Good thing Count Dankula wasn't attacked with a milkshake...
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Quote from: Sal1981 on May 11, 2019, 03:24:02 PM
Good thing Count Dankula wasn't attacked with a milkshake...
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I like the good old days. You insult someone, they hit you in the face.
Quote from: Baruch on May 11, 2019, 05:39:26 PM
I like the good old days. You insult someone, they hit you in the face.
Didn't they use gloves though?
Quote from: Munch on May 11, 2019, 08:51:27 PM
Didn't they use gloves though?
Toffs might hit you with their white gloves ;-) Not boxing gloves though.
Boxing gloves aren't meant to protect the face getting hit, but the hands doing the hitting.
Pff, guy was clearly leading them on. How could you lay eyes on such a punchable face and not take a swing at it? :P
What a waste of a perfectly good shake. [emoji17]
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Weird.
I don't mind the waste of a chocolate milkshake. A vanilla with almond extract one, maybe.
But I think the real point is "How do you attack a powerful idiot without getting in serious legal trouble?". Inventive ways may be the future of protests.
Quote from: Cavebear on May 16, 2019, 04:42:00 AM
I don't mind the waste of a chocolate milkshake. A vanilla with almond extract one, maybe.
But I think the real point is "How do you attack a powerful idiot without getting in serious legal trouble?". Inventive ways may be the future of protests.
So I assume you missed the video Baruch put up the other day talking about how even if you disagree with what someone says politically, they still deserve the right to speak and not get attacked physically or silenced just because you don't like it, because doing so would be disallowing anyone else to come to their own conclusions about what the guy is saying?
Quote from: Cavebear on May 16, 2019, 04:42:00 AM
I don't mind the waste of a chocolate milkshake. A vanilla with almond extract one, maybe.
But I think the real point is "How do you attack a powerful idiot without getting in serious legal trouble?". Inventive ways may be the future of protests.
Enjoy your sit-in at the Dean's office, hippie ;-)
Quote from: Munch on May 16, 2019, 05:45:13 AM
So I assume you missed the video Baruch put up the other day talking about how even if you disagree with what someone says politically, they still deserve the right to speak and not get attacked physically or silenced just because you don't like it, because doing so would be disallowing anyone else to come to their own conclusions about what the guy is saying?
I was referring to the way Trump attacks people for expressing reasonable points of view by belittling their character instead of addressing the views they expressed. That is standard authoritarian demagoguery.
Quote from: Munch on May 16, 2019, 05:45:13 AM
So I assume you missed the video Baruch put up the other day talking about how even if you disagree with what someone says politically, they still deserve the right to speak and not get attacked physically or silenced just because you don't like it, because doing so would be disallowing anyone else to come to their own conclusions about what the guy is saying?
No, I don't monitor the order in which you view videos ;-))
Quote from: Cavebear on May 16, 2019, 09:36:42 AM
I was referring to the way Trump attacks people for expressing reasonable points of view by belittling their character instead of addressing the views they expressed. That is standard authoritarian demagoguery.
Dems never employ ad hominems. They are sooo virtuous. Their halos blind me.
I could address people's ideology, by reminding them that we are all stupid monkeys. Otherwise not worth the effort. All ideology is stupid. And ideology isn't facts or worthwhile stalking points. People make the conclusion, then develop false rationalization to make it look less stupid.
Quote from: Baruch on May 16, 2019, 10:35:27 AM
Dems never employ ad hominems. They are sooo virtuous. Their halos blind me.
I could address peoples ideology, by reminding them that we are all stupid monkeys. Otherwise not worth the effort. All ideology is stupid. And ideology isn't facts or worthwhile stalking points. People make the conclusion, then develop false rationalization to make it look less stupid.
You are actually on to something there. The strength and weakness of the Democratic Party IS virtue. It wasn't always that way. I was Republican until they "went South" supporting Nixon because they used to be the virtue party.
But today, things have changed.
Dems: "We would like to investigate certain possible illegal political activities".
Repubs: "Lock her up, lock her up, lock her up".
I see a difference between the 2 parties...
Ooh ... ooh ... you admit to not always supporting the Great Leap Forward comrade! Off to the rice paddy for you!
And again, bath salts don't help with arthritis. Stop using them. Going naked, animal and eating off people's faces is offensive to sensitive types.
Quote from: Baruch on May 16, 2019, 11:11:11 AM
Ooh ... ooh ... you admit to not always supporting the Great Leap Forward comrade! Off to the rice paddy for you!
Managed economies always fail. I do NOT support them. Is inventing inaccurate claims of others all you do? Do you sit around at night and invent this nonsense?
Quote from: Cavebear on May 16, 2019, 11:13:57 AM
Managed economies always fail. I do NOT support them. Is inventing inaccurate claims of others all you do? Do you sit around at night and invent this nonsense?
Correct. Humans can't even manage unmanaged economies. It is just that unmanaged economies can, can recover more quickly. A politburo with its head up its ass (see Brussels today) is not an asset, it is a liability.
Quote from: Baruch on May 16, 2019, 11:20:43 AM
Correct. Humans can't even manage unmanaged economies. It is just that unmanaged economies can, can recover more quickly. A politburo with its head up its ass (see Brussels today) is not an asset, it is a liability.
"manage unmanaged economies"
By definition...
Quote from: Cavebear on May 16, 2019, 11:32:03 AM
"manage unmanaged economies"
By definition...
Any monkey can not only keep complementary ideas in their head at the same time, but actual opposites. Hence our superior to AIs.
Quote from: Baruch on May 16, 2019, 02:20:13 PM
Any monkey can not only keep complementary ideas in their head at the same time, but actual opposites. Hence our superior to AIs.
Are you aware that when you say "monkey" you really mean "ape". Its OK, creationists make the same error.
Quote from: Cavebear on May 16, 2019, 02:39:46 PM
Are you aware that when you say "monkey" you really mean "ape". Its OK, creationists make the same error.
Are you aware that a mammal is just a single celled organism with cancerous duplication?
Quote from: Baruch on May 16, 2019, 02:41:19 PM
Are you aware that a mammal is just a single celled organism with cancerous duplication?
Be aware you are talking to an evolutionist. All life on Earth is mutations from single cell organisms. The changes from those are the rub...
Quote from: Cavebear on May 16, 2019, 02:43:53 PM
Be aware you are talking to an evolutionist. All life on Earth is mutations from single cell organisms. The changes from those are the rub...
It is cancer all the way down. If we really killed cancer, all the multi celled creatures/plants would die. Some cancers are more functional than others.
monkey like mental characteristics of a monkey.
The doctor asked the patient what was her zodiac sign. She said "I'm a cancer." The doctor said "Hmm, what a coincidence..."
hah
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on May 16, 2019, 06:51:59 PM
monkey like mental characteristics of a monkey.
Buddhism = shut down the monkey mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6j8yIOzeiA
I guess this is what reasonable discussion has transcended to now.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Mk8ee2F9iAc/hqdefault.jpg)
probably seems entertaining, until someone changes up the milkshake for acid.
(https://scontent.fhou1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/60728610_648631658921069_4578897456405676032_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_ht=scontent.fhou1-1.fna&oh=e955b59ffb44a131abe4217a993455ea&oe=5D67E588)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEidCVusDkY&t=0s
also.
(https://assets.infowars.com/2019/05/210519acid.jpg)
man sure is weird how people called for apparent fascists (people who don't have the same opinion to them) are people who get banned for having such political beliefs, while messages like these are allowed to remain on twitter advocating for violence.
Just because you call someone a nazi, doesn't make them one, sorry.
I'm just gonna clarify something here. While I now float more towards leaving the EU now then I did a few years ago (on the fence then), what I do stand for is having civil discussion on the subject of this divide, especially now considering what a fucking mess its been with may and her obviously siding with the EU in restraining the leaving, and preventing it at every turn.
Having political commerce on subjects like this from any group is what a democratic society needs to have. But throwing milkshakes or any projectile, or just acting with violence against someones political party out in the streets the way these people have been doing so, is an act against democracy.
You shouldn't be cheering on these people, it doesn't matter if they are doing it to people whos political beliefs you don't like. If a right wing protester hit against a liberal gathering with the same childish methods, you would be pissed off at them, not because its pissing on democracy, but because it just happened to be an attack on someone representing your side that day.
Milkshakes lead to guns, and guns lead to death camps. Try not to completely lose your minds.
In US law, saying harsh words isn't violence, but throwing things or punches are, and you can be arrested for it. The conspiracy of GB, is that it is OK for Leftists and Muslims to be above the law, because Leftists and their Muslim allies are ... righteous.
Yes, democracy as in ... German Democratic Republic (E Germany) and like the Caliphate. I will take my Spanish speaking Catholic Mexican neighbors any day.
QuoteMilkshakes lead to guns
Here in the US we skip the milkshake phase and go right to the gunfire. Saves time.
Quote from: Baruch on May 16, 2019, 04:12:54 PM
It is cancer all the way down. If we really killed cancer, all the multi celled creatures/plants would die. Some cancers are more functional than others.
Cancer is a general term for cells that start multiplying in ways that are not generally beneficial to the body. It is not a specific organism. If we "killed" cancer (as in stopping the condition), all the multi celled creatures/plants would NOT die.
Where do you get such nonsensical ideas?
Quote from: Cavebear on May 26, 2019, 02:31:29 AM
Cancer is a general term for cells that start multiplying in ways that are not generally beneficial to the body. It is not a specific organism. If we "killed" cancer (as in stopping the condition), all the multi celled creatures/plants would NOT die.
Where do you get such nonsensical ideas?
Why are your definitions simpleton? You aren't one. Wed to Funk & Wagnalls?
Quote from: Baruch on May 26, 2019, 04:13:19 AM
Why are your definitions simpleton? You aren't one. Wed to Funk & Wagnalls?
I note that you failed to address "cancer" in any way. And my dictionary is Webster's Third New International Dictionary. Which an aunt of mine worked on, BTW... And the darn thing weighs 13.2 pounds!
Quote from: Cavebear on May 26, 2019, 05:10:21 AM
I note that you failed to address "cancer" in any way. And my dictionary is Webster's Third New International Dictionary. Which an aunt of mine worked on, BTW... And the darn thing weighs 13.2 pounds!
More virtue signaling. I am related to Thomas Jefferson and JFK .. so there!
Cancer can be used poetically. Are you trying to tumor (humor) me? ;-)
Quote from: Baruch on May 26, 2019, 05:12:38 AM
More virtue signaling. I am related to Thomas Jefferson and JFK .. so there!
Cancer can be used poetically. Are you trying to tumor (humor) me? ;-)
Congrats! I am related to Julius Ceasar, ancient English kings and some really worthless French bastards. Most people of European descent are. But we are all related to Africans.
Quote from: Cavebear on May 26, 2019, 05:21:36 AM
Congrats! I am related to Julius Ceasar, ancient English kings and some really worthless French bastards. Most people of European descent are. But we are all related to Africans.
I am a demi-god ... does that out virtue signal you? ;-)
Quote from: Baruch on May 26, 2019, 07:14:07 AM
I am a demi-god ... does that out virtue signal you? ;-)
Nah. Gods and demigods always have a weakness. Baldur and the mistletoe, Achilles and the heel, The Wicked Witch and water, etc...
Quote from: Cavebear on May 26, 2019, 07:26:11 AM
Nah. Gods and demigods always have a weakness. Baldur and the mistletoe, Achilles and the heel, The Wicked Witch and water, etc...
At least Achilles and Hector were alpha males. Thersites (look him up) and Paris were beta males. Which would you rather be?
In complaining about the ongoing witch hunt, Trump said "I'll get you Crazy Nancy - and your little dog, too!"
Quote from: Baruch on May 26, 2019, 10:16:42 AM
At least Achilles and Hector were alpha males. Thersites (look him up) and Paris were beta males. Which would you rather be?
In childhood games, I was Hector. Achilles had a goddess advantage and even then, I didn't like that.
Quote from: Unbeliever on May 26, 2019, 05:29:50 PM
In complaining about the ongoing witch hunt, Trump said "I'll get you Crazy Nancy - and your little dog, too!"
Source?
Source? Right out of my ass... :-P
Quote from: Unbeliever on May 28, 2019, 02:06:46 PM
Source? Right out of my ass... :-P
Well, in my career, I certainly ran into many "rectal extractions" from illogical people presenting unsupported opinions. I worked closely with some of those people, and learned that they just thought their opinions were "as valid as the next person's". I used to amuse myself by asking them some questions about their work that involved facts. They didn't really pay much attention to facts. What mattered to them was whether their opinions furthered their goals.
I do not understand such people.
Quote from: Cavebear on May 31, 2019, 12:14:19 AM
Well, in my career, I certainly ran into many "rectal extractions" from illogical people presenting unsupported opinions. I worked closely with some of those people, and learned that they just thought their opinions were "as valid as the next person's". I used to amuse myself by asking them some questions about their work that involved facts. They didn't really pay much attention to facts. What mattered to them was whether their opinions furthered their goals.
I do not understand such people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=670ZGMBjrPI
How did you survive in government?
Quote from: Baruch on May 31, 2019, 12:23:08 AM
How did you survive in government?
I fought the idiots and reasoned with those able to do it.
And I'm doing it here.
Quote from: Cavebear on May 31, 2019, 03:07:44 AM
I fought the idiots and reasoned with those able to do it.
And I'm doing it here.
You will never be PM then ;-} Your political science education apparently ignored Machiavelli.
Quote from: Baruch on May 31, 2019, 10:25:55 AM
You will never be PM then ;-} Your political science education apparently ignored Machiavelli.
I studied him to understand what the crazy people do. And that is pretty much anything. I don't go that way.
Quote from: Cavebear on May 31, 2019, 12:14:19 AM
Well, in my career, I certainly ran into many "rectal extractions" from illogical people presenting unsupported opinions. I worked closely with some of those people, and learned that they just thought their opinions were "as valid as the next person's". I used to amuse myself by asking them some questions about their work that involved facts. They didn't really pay much attention to facts. What mattered to them was whether their opinions furthered their goals.
I do not understand such people.
Ever seen the Wizard of Oz?
Quote from: Unbeliever on May 31, 2019, 01:35:37 PM
Ever seen the Wizard of Oz?
You mean The Wizard? I always felt sorry for him. He was as much a prisoner there as Dorothy. Struggling not to be killed by the East and West Witches. But without the Ruby slippers.
I actually think quite well of 'The Wiz', BTW... That guy in the subway was GOOD. And the Lion as the NYC Library statues? Good. But Michael Jackson did the Scarecrow to perfection. Not that Ray Bolger didn't nail it too. But the Wiz folks had time to think about the roles more.
Well, the Wicked Witch of the West told Dorothy "I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog, too!"
Quote from: Unbeliever on May 31, 2019, 02:15:24 PM
Well, the Wicked Witch of the West told Dorothy "I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog, too!"
Both the Wicked Witch and I think town Mayor named Almira Gultch said that, I think. I can't be sure.
Quote from: Cavebear on May 31, 2019, 10:47:21 AM
I studied him to understand what the crazy people do. And that is pretty much anything. I don't go that way.
Being crazy is a prerequisite of politics. I consider political science on the same level as LeVey Satanism.
Quote from: Baruch on May 31, 2019, 04:42:55 PM
Being crazy is a prerequisite of politics. I consider political science on the same level as LeVey Satanism.
I don't think you have to be technically crazy to be a politician (many become one with the best of intentions and I'm sure some remain so), but you do need to be both obsessed and have a megalomania complex. Well, OK, that's CLOSE to crazy. Begging for money AND feeling superior to others IS quite a trick.
Of course, I don't think throwing a milkshake at someone is an appropriate response to someone being an idiot. But this is hardly something worth international attention. Alert me when Liberals use their cars to run over Conservatives using their right to protest, or when they start doing mass shootings in the name of some Liberal YouTube personality, then you'll have my attention. As of now, Conservatives have the monopoly on those things, so forgive me if I don't shed a tear for Sargon of a Con.
Quote from: Blackleaf on June 06, 2019, 12:37:43 PM
Of course, I don't think throwing a milkshake at someone is an appropriate response to someone being an idiot. But this is hardly something worth international attention. Alert me when Liberals use their cars to run over Conservatives using their right to protest, or when they start doing mass shootings in the name of some Liberal YouTube personality, then you'll have my attention. As of now, Conservatives have the monopoly on those things, so forgive me if I don't shed a tear for Sargon of a Con.
something tells me even if that did happen, back of your mind you'd find it entertaining.
Quote from: Munch on June 06, 2019, 02:28:25 PM
something tells me even if that did happen, back of your mind you'd find it entertaining.
You don't know me very well, then.
Quote from: Blackleaf on June 06, 2019, 12:37:43 PM
Of course, I don't think throwing a milkshake at someone is an appropriate response to someone being an idiot. But this is hardly something worth international attention. Alert me when Liberals use their cars to run over Conservatives using their right to protest, or when they start doing mass shootings in the name of some Liberal YouTube personality, then you'll have my attention. As of now, Conservatives have the monopoly on those things, so forgive me if I don't shed a tear for Sargon of a Con.
I often see people writing or speaking about how "both sides" are equal in vile responses and events. They seldom are. Anyone with an ounce of sense can tell that if one person drives a car into a crowd of assembled people protesting, it is NOT an equivalency. People who do that are "terrorists" and no way around that.
Quote from: Cavebear on June 09, 2019, 11:57:53 AM
I often see people writing or speaking about how "both sides" are equal in vile responses and events. They seldom are. Anyone with an ounce of sense can tell that if one person drives a car into a crowd of assembled people protesting, it is NOT an equivalency. People who do that are "terrorists" and no way around that.
Yes, inequality everywhere. Can't build communism on that. Thank G-d that eventually most of us will be sterile female clone workers in the Feminist hive.
Yes, people are violent. Just about the only thing you and I can do about that, is to not be violent ourselves, in spite of all the provocations ;-)
Quote from: Baruch on June 09, 2019, 02:01:36 PM
Yes, inequality everywhere. Can't build communism on that. Thank G-d that eventually most of us will be sterile female clone workers in the Feminist hive.
Yes, people are violent. Just about the only thing you and I can do about that, is to not be violent ourselves, in spite of all the provocations ;-)
The future is the business of the future. For today, we must address the outrages of the present. A century from now, there will be people trying to address the wrongs of our time looking back to us for guidance. We owe them that guidance. And we can only provide it by doing the best we can today.
I consider the future to be a book I hold in my hands with unknown numbers of blank pages beyond a certain point. If I have any anger in life, it is that I will never read those pages nor even know how many pages there are. I do not fear dying so much as I regret not knowing how the story is told to the end.
Quote from: Cavebear on June 09, 2019, 04:40:55 PM
A century from now, there will be people trying to address the wrongs of our time looking back to us for guidance.
Well, maybe: https://www.livescience.com/65633-climate-change-dooms-humans-by-2050.html
There may not be any humans left in a century that will care about anything other than sheer survival.
Y'all could write the book on "Georgia Guide Stones for Commies".
Quote from: Unbeliever on June 09, 2019, 05:19:35 PM
Well, maybe: https://www.livescience.com/65633-climate-change-dooms-humans-by-2050.html
There may not be any humans left in a century that will care about anything other than sheer survival.
Well we are the first generations who could actually end human life, by using nuclear weapons on ourselves. And I don't think we will.
There have already been some very close calls with nukes, but so far, so good.
Quote from: Unbeliever on June 11, 2019, 01:22:18 PM
There have already been some very close calls with nukes, but so far, so good.
Close only counts in horseshoes and nukes. A nuke incident is referred to as a "Broken Arrow". Like when a plane does down on patrol with a nuke on it. Does not include false alert incidents. First one was Nazis in 1942. Most recent was in 2003.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_nuclear_accidents
One mishap in detail (1968) ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Thule_Air_Base_B-52_crash#Broken_Arrow
Film of actual nuclear accidents ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJlUXl7z9nU
More questionable successes ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLjfaTKNJis
Nuclear fracking, 60 miles from where I am moving to ...
http://www.wadenelson.com/gasbuggy.html
Quote from: Baruch on June 11, 2019, 03:52:54 PM
Close only counts in horseshoes and nukes. A nuke incident is referred to as a "Broken Arrow". Like when a plane does down on patrol with a nuke on it. Does not include false alert incidents. First one was Nazis in 1942. Most recent was in 2003.
Film of actual nuclear accidents ...
Nuclear fracking, 60 miles from where I am moving to ...
Might not be the best place to move to.
I spent my office life in Washington DC. One day, the Office Manger called me in and offerred me a promotion to Branch Chief of The Emergency Management Branch. After a day considering it, I advised her that I was probably not the best choice. When she asked why, I told her that if there was an actual nuclear war, Washington DC was going to be a 20 mile diameter glass bowl and I intended to be somewhere in the Smoky mountains hiding in a hole in the ground with some cans of food, my crossbow and a knife.
Oddly, she never brought up the subject again. Honesty is not helpful sometimes. But seriously, I was never suited to prepare for things I hoped would never happen. Voice telecom was real every day.
Uk 'comedian' Jo Brand recently in regards to these attacks has made a joke of wishing the milkshake was instead battery acid.
Here in the UK, since we don't have guns here, things like knife crimes, and acid attacks are some of the number one causes of attacks here.
And yet, the BBC themselves have defended Jo brand for saying this.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p2OEEZ86LWo
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rPpiBSSMPMA
And yet you take someone like a youtuber like count dankula, who made an equally tasteless joke about his pug being a Nazi, and he gets arrested for it.
Sorry, all Brits are Muslim terrorists now, whether they wear a burkha or not. That Malala girl from Pakistan better stay away from GB now, since they have legitimized battery acid attack ;-)
When you see Prince Charles going down the highway on a camel dressed as Lawrence of Arabia, then it is time to worry. I hear he likes being a faux Arab.
Quote from: Baruch on June 13, 2019, 04:08:28 PM
Sorry, all Brits are Muslim terrorists now, whether they wear a burkha or not. That Malala girl from Pakistan better stay away from GB now, since they have legitimized battery acid attack ;-)
When you see Prince Charles going down the highway on a camel dressed as Lawrence of Arabia, then it is time to worry. I hear he likes being a faux Arab.
On that day I'm deciding between either getting pieces of my brain removed so I don't have to think about the world around me, or moving to Iceland.
Quote from: Munch on June 13, 2019, 04:27:28 PM
On that day I'm deciding between either getting pieces of my brain removed so I don't have to think about the world around me, or moving to Iceland.
At least Iceland, after the 2008 crash, thru some bankers in jail. They didn't reward them for malfeasance.
Quote from: Baruch on June 13, 2019, 09:30:06 PM
At least Iceland, after the 2008 crash, thru some bankers in jail. They didn't reward them for malfeasance.
that and thinking of the Icelandic bodybuilders.
(https://i.imgur.com/X0uJos6.jpg)
Quote from: Munch on June 13, 2019, 04:27:28 PM
On that day I'm deciding between either getting pieces of my brain removed so I don't have to think about the world around me, or moving to Iceland.
Given global warming, Iceland might be a good choice...
Quote from: Cavebear on June 15, 2019, 05:07:03 AM
Given global warming, Iceland might be a good choice...
It's the middle of June and we've just gone though several days of heavy rain and temperatures around 8 degrees, turning the heating on in June, it's insane, makes me think we're get heatwaves in November
Quote from: Munch on June 15, 2019, 05:22:40 AM
It's the middle of June and we've just gone though several days of heavy rain and temperatures around 8 degrees, turning the heating on in June, it's insane, makes me think we're get heatwaves in November
Munch, daily or even seasonal weather is NOT the same thing as climate. Weather is when it rains where you are or not. Climate change is when the changes occur slightly more every year globally in a continuing way. My average last frost date in Spring has moved from about April 25th to April 20th in the 32 years I have lived here.
That means some crops like snow peas don't grow as well as they used to. Which doesn't really matter a lot, but a grower like me can see. But the same change means that some grain crops mature at times of rain when it used to be dry and are spoiled. It means that some other crops get less rain at certain times of their development and produce fewer fruits because the insects that spread the pollen doesn't thrive. And it means that some harmful insects survive Winters by a couple days where they didn't before.
A 1C difference doesn't sound like much to us, but it can mean a big difference to a plant or insect.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8lv8_iqMSo
More down the slippery slope of violence.
Quote from: Munch on June 30, 2019, 04:32:50 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8lv8_iqMSo (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8lv8_iqMSo)
Portland was very high on my places I want to live (or Salem anyways, right out side of town), but the number of violent left and violent right in that area are really giving me second thoughts about that. And I realise both are a strong minority, but the state not cracking down on either is not a good look.
Quote from: Shiranu on June 30, 2019, 05:01:43 PM
Portland was very high on my places I want to live (or Salem anyways, right out side of town), but the number of violent left and violent right in that area are really giving me second thoughts about that. And I realise both are a strong minority, but the state not cracking down on either is not a good look.
This is what happens when a social and political ideology isn't given limitations what they can get away with. No political figure should be allowed to let there own biases dictate the law of the land, right or left.
Quote from: Shiranu on June 30, 2019, 05:01:43 PM
Portland was very high on my places I want to live (or Salem anyways, right out side of town), but the number of violent left and violent right in that area are really giving me second thoughts about that. And I realise both are a strong minority, but the state not cracking down on either is not a good look.
A cult utopia. Used to be Hindu guru land. For people too crazy to live in California. You could always move to Seattle, they have a good anarchist group there ;-(
Quote from: Munch on June 30, 2019, 05:14:18 PM
This is what happens when a social and political ideology isn't given limitations what they can get away with. No political figure should be allowed to let there own biases dictate the law of the land, right or left.
Cult of personality. So one can end up in a Cinderella coffin like Lenin or Mao. Narcissism plus guns. What could go wrong?
Throwing a milkshake sends the message "You are vulnerable. This time it was just a milkshake. Next time it might not be."
Quote from: Jason Harvestdancer on August 03, 2019, 12:17:35 PM
Throwing a milkshake sends the message "You are vulnerable. This time it was just a milkshake. Next time it might not be."
Exactly. So let the massacres begin. How about having anti-Fa thrown to the grizzly bears.
Thrown liquids spread better than cream pies. Every protest movement seeks an identity. In my day, we are burned photocopies of our draft cards. Then some people burned cheap flags. Maybe next decade, it will be community-accumalated snot or feces. And after that, it will get subtle again. Bring back the protest signs...!
Quote from: Cavebear on August 05, 2019, 09:11:23 AM
Thrown liquids spread better than cream pies. Every protest movement seeks an identity. In my day, we are burned photocopies of our draft cards. Then some people burned cheap flags. Maybe next decade, it will be community-accumalated snot or feces. And after that, it will get subtle again. Bring back the protest signs...!
Yes. In the 60s I would have burned hippies at the stake.
Quote from: Baruch on August 05, 2019, 11:54:14 AM
Yes. In the 60s I would have burned hippies at the stake.
The best protest sign I ever saw was blank. You could imagine anything you wanted there. People tore it apart in anger. That's when I left...
[Sorry, I left out "imagine"]
Quote from: Cavebear on August 05, 2019, 12:49:40 PM
The best protest sign I ever saw was blank. You could anything you wanted there. People tore it apart in anger. That's when I left...
Beyond dyslexic protestors there are illiterate protestors?
Quote from: Baruch on August 05, 2019, 01:06:00 PM
Beyond dyslexic protestors there are illiterate protestors?
Lots of them. It was a State University after all. Lots of BA majors. I hasten to add that State U has seriously upped its reputation on serious subjects since the 70s.
It's pretty clear that these people would be suicide bombers if they had more religion and balls.
Quote from: Morgoth_Ascending on August 09, 2019, 11:50:07 AM
It's pretty clear that these people would be suicide bombers if they had more religion and balls.
Not the average college age person. But the crazy 1% think they need violent revolution.
Quote from: Morgoth_Ascending on August 09, 2019, 11:50:07 AM
It's pretty clear that these people would be suicide bombers if they had more religion and balls.
What exactly does that mean? Who are you suggesting the bombers are? I note that you are suggesting that suicide bombers are connecting to religion. Which religions, may I ask? And it seems you are suggesting that that is a good thing ("and balls").