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Title: US threatens to veto UN resolution on helping rape victims...
Post by: drunkenshoe on April 29, 2019, 07:07:12 PM
US threatens to veto UN resolution on helping rape victims, over mentions of reproductive health

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/22/politics/us-united-nations-sexual-violence-resolution/index.html

I really don't want to comment on it.

Quote(CNN)The US delegation to the United Nations has threatened to veto a resolution aiming to prevent rape as a weapon of war and to help its victims, because the resolution contains language about "sexual and reproductive health," sources confirmed to CNN.

A UN-based source told CNN the US seems to have a "red line" when it came to mentioning sexual and reproductive health in a broad resolution that saw the US breaking from its traditional allies and threatening to derail the measure. The proposal called on the global institution to reaffirm and renew its opposition to sexual violence.

A copy of the draft UN Security Council resolution obtained by CNN shows the potential changes to the document, marked in the margins by a member of the German delegation to the UN, in an attempt to satisfy the US' problems with it, according to multiple sources.

The edits, marked by Andreas Glossner, vice chair of the UN's Commission on the Status of Women, include removing references to "health services" and the "sexual and reproductive health" of victims of sexual violence.

The Trump administration has taken measures to avoid supporting efforts and organizations that provide abortion services to women, including victims of rape, and sources say such language is now viewed by the US as a veiled reference to that.


But the draft also showed an unexplained suggested change in one section -- again, sources say, to satisfy the Americans -- striking a line stating that the UN "further encourages support to and training of journalists on sexual violence in conflict and post-conflict situations and gender inequality."

The UN-based source said one possible replacement line to the draft does include a reference to an older UN resolution that did mention reproductive health, and hoped the compromise would help the resolution move forward.

US allies, according to sources, had no problem with the original language in the resolution, but said the US had instead joined with Russia and China in removing another section on sexual violence that would have established a new mechanism to monitor and report such atrocities.
The Guardian was first to report on US issues with the resolution.

A US mission spokesperson, speaking on background, told CNN, "Our diplomatic negotiations are confidential, and we cannot comment on a draft resolution that is still being actively negotiated."

The opposition from the US over this resolution echoed previous such moments at the UN during the Trump administration.
Last year, a Trump administration appointee to the State Department tore into routine UN documents that condemned racism as a threat to democracy, taking issue with the use of the words nationalism, populism and xenophobia.

"The drafters say 'populism and nationalism' as if these are dirty words," wrote Andrew Veprek in documents CNN obtained last year.
In another episode reminiscent of the recent clash on the sexual violence resolution, the US reportedly threatened nations in an effort to water down a resolution supporting breastfeeding, which baby formula producers opposed. According to The New York Times, the US delegation threatened retribution on trade and military aid to Ecuador to get the nation to drop the resolution and at least a dozen countries also avoided the resolution out of fear of the US.
Title: Re: US threatens to veto UN resolution on helping rape victims...
Post by: Baruch on April 29, 2019, 10:06:22 PM
Perhaps corporatist, as you suggest.  Foolishness, to be a government which is for sale to the rich and powerful.  Can't see how a corporation gains from rape though.
Title: Re: US threatens to veto UN resolution on helping rape victims...
Post by: Minimalist on May 06, 2019, 03:29:45 PM
Trump likes to grab them by the pussy, remember?
Title: Re: US threatens to veto UN resolution on helping rape victims...
Post by: Baruch on May 06, 2019, 11:46:38 PM
Quote from: Minimalist on May 06, 2019, 03:29:45 PM
Trump likes to grab them by the pussy, remember?

Hope Joe Biden sniffs your hair and paws your shoulder from behind ;-)
Title: Re: US threatens to veto UN resolution on helping rape victims...
Post by: Minimalist on May 07, 2019, 03:10:52 PM
That's fairly mild compared to pussy grabbing!
Title: Re: US threatens to veto UN resolution on helping rape victims...
Post by: Baruch on May 07, 2019, 11:00:55 PM
Quote from: Minimalist on May 07, 2019, 03:10:52 PM
That's fairly mild compared to pussy grabbing!

I have seen the Biden videos.  Yet to see Trump do anything like that.  You ...
Title: Re: US threatens to veto UN resolution on helping rape victims...
Post by: Minimalist on May 08, 2019, 10:44:28 PM
He admitted it.... in his own words.  The moron still seems to think that recordings vanish after a time.


They don't.

Title: Re: US threatens to veto UN resolution on helping rape victims...
Post by: Baruch on May 08, 2019, 10:53:23 PM
Quote from: Minimalist on May 08, 2019, 10:44:28 PM
He admitted it.... in his own words.  The moron still seems to think that recordings vanish after a time.


They don't.

Don't worry, I wouldn't even grope you ;-))
Title: Re: US threatens to veto UN resolution on helping rape victims...
Post by: Cavebear on May 10, 2019, 02:28:43 AM
Quote from: Baruch on May 08, 2019, 10:53:23 PM
Don't worry, I wouldn't even grope you ;-))

I would hope not.  And I've never been groped.  But I'm a guy.  It is different for women.  There are a LOT of sick guys out there.

And they come to represent all of us.  I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I don't like being viewed as a potential groper.  Part of the problem is that we overlook other guys we know who act like that and don't call them out.  It is past time that we do.

I'm an atheist, but there is some value in the idea of being my "brother's keeper".  In any social group (males in this case) group pressure to conform to a better social lifestyle has some value.
Title: Re: US threatens to veto UN resolution on helping rape victims...
Post by: Baruch on May 10, 2019, 04:32:47 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on May 10, 2019, 02:28:43 AM
I would hope not.  And I've never been groped.  But I'm a guy.  It is different for women.  There are a LOT of sick guys out there.

And they come to represent all of us.  I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I don't like being viewed as a potential groper.  Part of the problem is that we overlook other guys we know who act like that and don't call them out.  It is past time that we do.

I'm an atheist, but there is some value in the idea of being my "brother's keeper".  In any social group (males in this case) group pressure to conform to a better social lifestyle has some value.

Which is why we need gynocratic dictatorships ;-)

I have never been tempted to touch women like that.  Seems rude to me.  I have accidentally brushed women in line with my hands at my side.  I am a "boobs" guy, but I would never be so bold ...

So you are going to go around, in spandex, defending the honor of women?  Like a Southern gentleman, in white suite, and mint julep?
Title: Re: US threatens to veto UN resolution on helping rape victims...
Post by: Cavebear on May 10, 2019, 05:41:37 AM
Quote from: Baruch on May 10, 2019, 04:32:47 AM
Which is why we need gynocratic dictatorships ;-)

I have never been tempted to touch women like that.  Seems rude to me.  I have accidentally brushed women in line with my hands at my side.  I am a "boobs" guy, but I would never be so bold ...

So you are going to go around, in spandex, defending the honor of women?  Like a Southern gentleman, in white suite, and mint julep?

Spandex?  Me?  You've GOT to be kidding.  I don't even walk around my own house without SHOES on, never mind the rest of the standard cloth assembly. 

And let's get something straight here.  I'm not "defending the honor of women like a Southern gentleman".  That way lies condescension and I will have none of that.  I consider men and women equals in all regards.  It's political and social differences I choose to discuss.