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Title: Re: Ultimate Truth Behind Christianity, Islam, Judaism & Mental Illnesses!!
Post by: Sorginak on September 22, 2017, 09:46:24 AM
I just saw this nonsense on another atheist forum, and I'll say the same thing here that I did there:

TL;DR
Title: Re: Ultimate Truth Behind Christianity, Islam, Judaism & Mental Illnesses!!
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on September 22, 2017, 10:11:40 AM
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/486/380/78f.png)
Title: Re: Ultimate Truth Behind Christianity, Islam, Judaism & Mental Illnesses!!
Post by: Sorginak on September 22, 2017, 10:31:50 AM
"More" is not always the solution.
Title: Re: Ultimate Truth Behind Christianity, Islam, Judaism & Mental Illnesses!!
Post by: Mike Cl on September 22, 2017, 10:43:29 AM
This guy makes Ibn look like a piker!!  This guy must be a writer for the Ancient Astronauts of the History Channel. 
Title: Re: Ultimate Truth Behind Christianity, Islam, Judaism & Mental Illnesses!!
Post by: Mike Cl on September 22, 2017, 11:21:35 AM
Quote from: draleigh on September 22, 2017, 11:15:51 AM
Mike, I have debunked all the current theories about aliens, demons, spirits, Gods, mental illnesses etc... Would be nice to hear some intelligent or a logical reply to my post if one get a chance to read all. This is the truth...
Not one chance I'll be reading any of what you posted. 
Title: Re: Ultimate Truth Behind Christianity, Islam, Judaism & Mental Illnesses!!
Post by: Blackleaf on September 22, 2017, 12:16:18 PM
Wow. Nearly an entire page written by one poster. This guy takes TL;DR to a new level.
Title: Re: Ultimate Truth Behind Christianity, Islam, Judaism & Mental Illnesses!!
Post by: Unbeliever on September 22, 2017, 01:41:06 PM
I read the Bible three times and it wasn't too long to read - but some of the posters here seem to think I have all the time in the world to read whatever tripe they want to post. But the rapture will happen soon, so I have very little time to read.
Title: Re: Ultimate Truth Behind Christianity, Islam, Judaism & Mental Illnesses!!
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on September 22, 2017, 02:45:40 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 22, 2017, 01:41:06 PM
I read the Bible three times and it wasn't too long to read - but some of the posters here seem to think I have all the time in the world to read whatever tripe they want to post. But the rapture will happen soon, so I have very little time to read.
I prefer the S.A.B. (http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/) myself. Thinking about getting a printed copy one of these days.
Title: Re: Ultimate Truth Behind Christianity, Islam, Judaism & Mental Illnesses!!
Post by: Unbeliever on September 22, 2017, 02:59:25 PM
Yeah, it's very handy to have. I'd like to have the hard copy, too.
Title: Re: Ultimate Truth Behind Christianity, Islam, Judaism & Mental Illnesses!!
Post by: Baruch on September 22, 2017, 07:06:17 PM
Nothing but the Hebrew-Aramaic and the Greek Bibles are the real thing.  Though the all Aramaic Bible comes close.  In the original languages of course, not twisted translations.  This is why Muslims are correct, that the Quran, in anything other than the original classical Arabic ... isn't the Quran.  If you aren't willing to learn the original languages ... and who does ... then you are just debating bad translations.  Just saying.

Of course the Greek Bible (Septuagint portion anyway) is a bad translation all to itself, but it is what the early Church was using.  I don't think there are any early orthodox NT books that weren't in Greek.  I prefer the GoT ... though we only have the Coptic version (it was originally in Greek).  The sense of the Syriac (Aramaic) Bible is pretty close to the original sense.  But once you have a translator who is from a different culture, different language, different politics, different religion trying to do a translation ... you are pissing up wind.

But a skeptic's Bible ... of course.  But that only works if you are a skeptic to begin with, otherwise you will see it as a Devil's Playground ;-)
Title: Re: Ultimate Truth Behind Christianity, Islam, Judaism & Mental Illnesses!!
Post by: Mike Cl on September 22, 2017, 07:24:58 PM
Quote from: Baruch on September 22, 2017, 07:06:17 PM
Nothing but the Hebrew-Aramaic and the Greek Bibles are the real thing.  Though the all Aramaic Bible comes close.  In the original languages of course, not twisted translations.  This is why Muslims are correct, that the Quran, in anything other than the original classical Arabic ... isn't the Quran.  If you aren't willing to learn the original languages ... and who does ... then you are just debating bad translations.  Just saying.

Of course the Greek Bible (Septuagint portion anyway) is a bad translation all to itself, but it is what the early Church was using.  I don't think there are any early orthodox NT books that weren't in Greek.  I prefer the GoT ... though we only have the Coptic version (it was originally in Greek).  The sense of the Syriac (Aramaic) Bible is pretty close to the original sense.  But once you have a translator who is from a different culture, different language, different politics, different religion trying to do a translation ... you are pissing up wind.

But a skeptic's Bible ... of course.  But that only works if you are a skeptic to begin with, otherwise you will see it as a Devil's Playground ;-)
A fiction in any other language, is..................still a fiction.
Title: Re: Ultimate Truth Behind Christianity, Islam, Judaism & Mental Illnesses!!
Post by: aitm on September 22, 2017, 09:35:05 PM
*Yawn*

someone let me know when to kick this shit to the curb, I ain't reading all that crap...
Title: Re: Ultimate Truth Behind Christianity, Islam, Judaism & Mental Illnesses!!
Post by: Unbeliever on September 22, 2017, 10:49:22 PM
Damn! I was hoping you'd read it so I don't have to!
Title: Re: Ultimate Truth Behind Christianity, Islam, Judaism & Mental Illnesses!!
Post by: Baruch on September 22, 2017, 11:54:49 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on September 22, 2017, 07:24:58 PM
A fiction in any other language, is..................still a fiction.

Math is a language - fiction (space isn't Euclidean)
Physics is a language - fiction (forces aren't Newtonian)
etc

Fiction all the way down.  We are talking about ape men here.
Title: Re: Ultimate Truth Behind Christianity, Islam, Judaism & Mental Illnesses!!
Post by: Cavebear on September 23, 2017, 01:37:09 AM
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on September 22, 2017, 10:11:40 AM
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/486/380/78f.png)

I have reported him, requesting a ban.  A discussion ABOUT religion is all well and good.  Insanely long bizarre and repetitive posts dedicated to a particular religion are not.
Title: Re: Ultimate Truth Behind Christianity, Islam, Judaism & Mental Illnesses!!
Post by: fencerider on September 29, 2017, 01:10:50 AM
at least he gave us this book for free... most people would charge us for the priviledge of reading their book. Now I got something to do on a rainy day ;-)