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Title: Sanctions on North Korea Aiding Companies Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Shiranu on March 22, 2019, 05:47:28 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/22/trump-says-he-will-remove-north-korea-related-sanctions.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/22/trump-says-he-will-remove-north-korea-related-sanctions.html)


QuotePresident Donald Trump said Friday that he would scrap action his administration took only a day earlier to crack down on companies accused of helping North Korea evade sanctions.

"It was announced today by the U.S. Treasury that additional large scale Sanctions would be added to those already existing Sanctions on North Korea," the president tweeted on Friday, though the Treasury announcement he appeared to reference took place Thursday and did not involve "large scale" sanctions. "I have today ordered the withdrawal of those additional Sanctions!" plaining the president's sudden announcement, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said, "President Trump likes Chairman Kim and he doesn't think these sanctions will be necessary." Trump's tweet and the press secretary's clarification of it sent waves of confusion throughout Washington, from the Pentagon to the White House itself.

On Thursday, Treasury designated two China-based shipping companies that it said has aided Pyongyang in circumventing U.S. and international sanctions. The U.S. and its allies have used those economic measures to push North Korea to dismantle its nuclear and missile programs.

What a shit show. Who is even in charge anymore?
Title: Re: Sanctions on North Korea Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 22, 2019, 05:56:25 PM
Narcissistic personality disorder in action.
Title: Re: Sanctions on North Korea Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Unbeliever on March 22, 2019, 06:28:14 PM
Trump derangement syndrome - Trump is obviously deranged.
Title: Re: Sanctions on North Korea Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Baruch on March 22, 2019, 07:44:22 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on March 22, 2019, 06:28:14 PM
Trump derangement syndrome - Trump is obviously deranged.

Trump is an American voter.  American voters are deranged.  Therefore Trump is deranged ;-)

So are the pacifist Democrats now calling for nuclear war with N Korea?  So many enemies, so little time!
Title: Re: Sanctions on North Korea Aiding Companies Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Mike Cl on March 23, 2019, 09:03:00 AM
Quote from: Shiranu on March 22, 2019, 05:47:28 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/22/trump-says-he-will-remove-north-korea-related-sanctions.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/22/trump-says-he-will-remove-north-korea-related-sanctions.html)


What a shit show. Who is even in charge anymore?
Trump's whims.
Title: Re: Sanctions on North Korea Aiding Companies Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Baruch on March 23, 2019, 10:46:05 AM
Quote from: Mike Cl on March 23, 2019, 09:03:00 AM
Trump's whims.

See, change constitution to match GB.  Then Nancy would be PM.  You could rest at night ;-)
Title: Re: Sanctions on North Korea Aiding Companies Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Mike Cl on March 23, 2019, 11:35:09 AM
Quote from: Baruch on March 23, 2019, 10:46:05 AM
See, change constitution to match GB.  Then Nancy would be PM.  You could rest at night ;-)
If that were the case, you'd be right.
Title: Re: Sanctions on North Korea Aiding Companies Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Baruch on March 23, 2019, 06:20:04 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on March 23, 2019, 11:35:09 AM
If that were the case, you'd be right.

So you agree that the American Revolution was a mistake, just so you have less post-election PTSD?  That is why I lean that way ;-)
Title: Re: Sanctions on North Korea Aiding Companies Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Mike Cl on March 24, 2019, 09:35:05 AM
Quote from: Baruch on March 23, 2019, 06:20:04 PM
So you agree that the American Revolution was a mistake, just so you have less post-election PTSD?  That is why I lean that way ;-)
My clan history supports that.  Apparently one of my early ancestors fought in the Rev. War.  William Clary was his name and he had large land holdings in Maryland; he was a Colonel during the war.  Unfortunately, for the clan, he was a Tory and fought for the British.  He lost all his land holdings after the war but did keep his life.  We have been a line of paupers since................
Title: Re: Sanctions on North Korea Aiding Companies Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Baruch on March 24, 2019, 10:29:03 AM
Marylanders were mostly Catholic, so there is that ...
Title: Re: Sanctions on North Korea Aiding Companies Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Mike Cl on March 24, 2019, 12:24:36 PM
Quote from: Baruch on March 24, 2019, 10:29:03 AM
Marylanders were mostly Catholic, so there is that ...
That was my thought when I first saw that information.  But there is not any evidence that he was catholic--but he still could have been.
Title: Re: Sanctions on North Korea Aiding Companies Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Baruch on March 24, 2019, 01:19:59 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on March 24, 2019, 12:24:36 PM
That was my thought when I first saw that information.  But there is not any evidence that he was catholic--but he still could have been.

Odds are ... Anglican.  English Catholics were known to be disloyal (Guy Fawkes).
Title: Re: Sanctions on North Korea Aiding Companies Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Munch on March 24, 2019, 01:31:25 PM
poor america. You want to get rid of your leader because he's narcissistic and incompetent.

We want to get rid of our leader because she's.. narcissistic and incompetent.

We have so much in common!
Title: Re: Sanctions on North Korea Aiding Companies Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Baruch on March 24, 2019, 01:55:56 PM
CIA runs US, MI6 runs GB.  All else is smoke and mirrors.
Title: Re: Sanctions on North Korea Aiding Companies Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Mike Cl on March 24, 2019, 06:44:25 PM
Quote from: Baruch on March 24, 2019, 01:19:59 PM
Odds are ... Anglican.  English Catholics were known to be disloyal (Guy Fawkes).
In order to have much land in Maryland it was my understanding that one had to at least play at being a Catholic.  But, as I said, there was no evidence (other than the large land holding) of it.  In fact, I can trace my linage from him, one generation back to London (where William's father caught a boat to the New World), but no other place of origin.  He quite easily could have been Irish, which would up his chances of him being Catholic.  From William I can trace to the present day.
Title: Re: Sanctions on North Korea Aiding Companies Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Baruch on March 24, 2019, 10:13:14 PM
Similarly from about 1715, on one of the female lines (Irish).  The male line only back to 1798 (grandfather's great-grand-father from N Carolina).
Title: Re: Sanctions on North Korea Aiding Companies Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Mike Cl on March 24, 2019, 10:39:11 PM
Quote from: Baruch on March 24, 2019, 10:13:14 PM
Similarly from about 1715, on one of the female lines (Irish).  The male line only back to 1798 (grandfather's great-grand-father from N Carolina).
My batch moved west thru Kentucky, Illinois, Arkansas and Texas, where my dad was born.  Maybe they traveled west together??
Title: Re: Sanctions on North Korea Aiding Companies Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Shiranu on March 24, 2019, 10:43:28 PM
Quote from: Munch on March 24, 2019, 01:31:25 PM
poor america. You want to get rid of your leader because he's narcissistic and incompetent.

We want to get rid of our leader because she's.. narcissistic and incompetent.

We have so much in common!


I have to admit, I've never thought of *May as narcissistic (more over-estimated how much power she really had), but I don't follower her as much as someone from the UK would. Have definitely gotten the impression of her being incompetent though.
Title: Re: Sanctions on North Korea Aiding Companies Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Baruch on March 25, 2019, 01:02:00 AM
Quote from: Shiranu on March 24, 2019, 10:43:28 PM
I have to admit, I've never thought of Thatcher as narcissistic (more over-estimated how much power she really had), but I don't follower her as much as someone from the UK would. Have definitely gotten the impression of her being incompetent though.

Weren't you in diapers when she was PM.  I wasn't alive in WW II, so I am not an expert on it.  Are you still crying over the Malvinas?
Title: Re: Sanctions on North Korea Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Cavebear on March 25, 2019, 02:52:40 AM
Quote from: Baruch on March 22, 2019, 07:44:22 PM
Trump is an American voter.  American voters are deranged.  Therefore Trump is deranged ;-)

So are the pacifist Democrats now calling for nuclear war with N Korea?  So many enemies, so little time!

Do you know if he ever voted?
Title: Re: Sanctions on North Korea Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Baruch on March 25, 2019, 02:55:48 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on March 25, 2019, 02:52:40 AM
Do you know if he ever voted?

Google is your friend ...

https://qz.com/1452673/donald-trump-voted-early-for-the-midterms/
Title: Re: Sanctions on North Korea Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Cavebear on March 25, 2019, 03:04:26 AM
Quote from: Baruch on March 25, 2019, 02:55:48 AM
Google is your friend ...

https://qz.com/1452673/donald-trump-voted-early-for-the-midterms/

Well done.  Actual research!  I didn't actually ask Google that myself because it it just a claim (as IF he would deny voting). And of course I'm am pretty sure he voted for himself.  Which would be of course quite proper.

But I meant more that like "did he routinely vote in previous elections"?    I can't really picture Trump standing in line to vote for anyone but himself.  And only with cameras present.
Title: Re: Sanctions on North Korea Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Baruch on March 25, 2019, 03:06:56 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on March 25, 2019, 03:04:26 AM
Well done.  Actual research!  I didn't actually ask Google that myself because it it just a claim (as IF he would deny voting). And of course I'm am pretty sure he voted for himself.  Which would be of course quite proper.

But I meant more that like "did he routinely vote in previous elections"?

But Google is a lie, and only Snopes (which has been debunked as a Dem shill) is reliable ;-)

Why do you ask that?  I have missed voting in some elections.  Would you accuse me of being a Russian agent?
Title: Re: Sanctions on North Korea Aiding Companies Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Shiranu on March 25, 2019, 03:08:36 AM
Quote from: Baruch on March 25, 2019, 01:02:00 AM
Weren't you in diapers when she was PM.  I wasn't alive in WW II, so I am not an expert on it.  Are you still crying over the Malvinas?

Derp. May, not Thatcher.
Title: Re: Sanctions on North Korea Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Cavebear on March 25, 2019, 03:56:56 AM
Quote from: Baruch on March 25, 2019, 03:06:56 AM
But Google is a lie, and only Snopes (which has been debunked as a Dem shill) is reliable ;-)

Why do you ask that?  I have missed voting in some elections.  Would you accuse me of being a Russian agent?

Snopes is not a "Dem shill".  Your Trumpian claim that it has is just that.  A Trumpian "Fake News"  hoax.  Your lies may travel the world faster than my corrections catch up, but I will still make them.
Title: Re: Sanctions on North Korea Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Baruch on March 25, 2019, 07:10:08 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on March 25, 2019, 03:56:56 AM
Snopes is not a "Dem shill".  Your Trumpian claim that it has is just that.  A Trumpian "Fake News"  hoax.  Your lies may travel the world faster than my corrections catch up, but I will still make them.

NYT and Washington Post reader ... says "the Onion" is real.

It is fake news that the Democrats are the most incompetent political party of all time.  Even Ken Starr said "Trump is vindicated on collusion".  I certainly wish Ken Starr had gotten the Senate to fry Bill Clinton back in the day.
Title: Re: Sanctions on North Korea Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Cavebear on March 29, 2019, 12:42:19 AM
Quote from: Baruch on March 25, 2019, 07:10:08 AM
NYT and Washington Post reader ... says "the Onion" is real.

It is fake news that the Democrats are the most incompetent political party of all time.  Even Ken Starr said "Trump is vindicated on collusion".  I certainly wish Ken Starr had gotten the Senate to fry Bill Clinton back in the day.

This April Fool's Day post was posted a few days early, right?  And yes, I see the jokes.
Title: Re: Sanctions on North Korea Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Baruch on March 29, 2019, 03:20:14 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on March 29, 2019, 12:42:19 AM
This April Fool's Day post was posted a few days early, right?  And yes, I see the jokes.

You still believe in Bill Clinton, because "sunk costs"?
Title: Re: Sanctions on North Korea Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Cavebear on March 29, 2019, 12:49:46 PM
Quote from: Baruch on March 29, 2019, 03:20:14 AM
You still believe in Bill Clinton, because "sunk costs"?

I distinguish Clinton and Trump by realizing that one was messing around personally with an adult woman not his wife and the other (forgive me the length) is destroying democracy, engaging with hostile governments in hopes of future profits, was so surprised he won the election that he din't even have an acceptance speech prepared, can't get any professionally-qualified people to take a job in his administration for more than a few months, has broken all international treaties that kept peace, claims that all immigrants are criminals, loves dictators, is utterly ignorant of basic history, is utterly ignorant of basic science, thinks that contracts are just
"concepts", and lies so frequently that he can't even remember the lies he told yesterday.
Title: Re: Sanctions on North Korea Dropped Because Trump, "Likes Kim"
Post by: Baruch on March 29, 2019, 07:12:44 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on March 29, 2019, 12:49:46 PM
I distinguish Clinton and Trump by realizing that one was messing around personally with an adult woman not his wife and the other (forgive me the length) is destroying democracy, engaging with hostile governments in hopes of future profits, was so surprised he won the election that he din't even have an acceptance speech prepared, can't get any professionally-qualified people to take a job in his administration for more than a few months, has broken all international treaties that kept peace, claims that all immigrants are criminals, loves dictators, is utterly ignorant of basic history, is utterly ignorant of basic science, thinks that contracts are just
"concepts", and lies so frequently that he can't even remember the lies he told yesterday.

Oh, they are two different people?  Color me surprised!  You simply like/dislike in your own way, same as everyone.  But you aren't more equal than others.  Except on the Animal Farm (aka Congress).