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8 short parts, about a real English family scared forever. In Latin it is told, that war is the dread of mothers.
My father's father served stateside at Ft Sam Houston in the motor pool. His older sister served as a nurse in England and her first marriage was there, at Southend-on-Sea according to the family Bible notes. Never got to talk to either of them. One of my mother's mother's older brothers was between Paris and heading to the Ardennes when the Armistice spared him. I got to meet him in his old age.
Quote from: Baruch on December 24, 2018, 01:37:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tell+them+of+us+part+1
8 short parts, about a real English family scared forever. In Latin it is told, that war is the dread of mothers.
My father's father served stateside at Ft Sam Houston in the motor pool. His older sister served as a nurse in England and her first marriage was there, at Southend-on-Sea according to the family Bible notes. Never got to talk to either of them. One of my mother's mother's older brothers was between Paris and heading to the Ardennes when the Armistice spared him. I got to meet him in his old age.
My ancestors didn't fight in WWI that I know of. But they were all involved in WWII. Uncle Buzzy (pilot) dropped a bomb down into a Japanese ship smokestack. Dad built subs. Some other uncles never spoke of the war.
Well said...
One grandfather was a recent immigrant and the other had contracted malaria during the Spanish-American war in Cuba.
My father and uncles were all in WWII.
Quote from: Minimalist on December 25, 2018, 10:41:02 PM
One grandfather was a recent immigrant and the other had contracted malaria during the Spanish-American war in Cuba.
My father and uncles were all in WWII.
I do recall my mother explaining about the youngest brother of 16. He was big for his age, and often got skewed looks from others that he wasn't in uniform. And Dad was refused because of "an enlarged heart". So he built subs. Turned out in the 60s they were wrong (hunting accident that required x-rays).
My father-in-law was in the War department in WW II. His brothers were enlisted in the Army. My parents were teens, my dad supporting the war in wood shop (making training silhouettes) or a Rosie (my mother and her mother at Remington Arms in Denver).
Quote from: Baruch on December 25, 2018, 11:58:32 PM
My father-in-law was in the War department in WW II. His brothers were enlisted in the Army. My parents were teens, my dad supporting the war in wood shop (making training silhouettes) or a Rosie (my mother and her mother at Remington Arms in Denver).
I respect all your family's work...
Quote from: Cavebear on December 26, 2018, 01:26:59 AM
I respect all your family's work...
They were mostly patriotic Americans. See also Korea and Vietnam. And my "service" in the Cold War down to today. But not all were. And I respect that other family/Americans had different conclusions in the war years. I can't imagine being pro-German or pro-fascist (not counting the war crimes we did ourselves) if I had been alive then. In WW I, I can almost sympathize with the Germans, except for the U-boat warfare. But that may just be a limited imagination. I understand opposition to the Vietnam War (and curse LBJ for it). I don't like the 1960 to make a comeback though. Not that I can do anything about it.
Just don't tell me who won, I'm still reading.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 26, 2018, 06:36:45 AM
Just don't tell me who won, I'm still reading.
The Cold War? Well it restarted, because the US and Russia can only exist with enemies who put their pants on ... two legs at a time.
QuoteBut war's a game, which, were their subjects wise, Kings should not play at.
William Cowper
Alas, in few nations are the subjects wise.
Quote from: Minimalist on December 27, 2018, 01:08:20 AM
Alas, in few nations are the subjects wise.
The madness of crowds, upon which both commerce and politics depends.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 26, 2018, 06:36:45 AM
Just don't tell me who won, I'm still reading.
Well, not to spoils things, but pay attention to the German kid who got gassed in the trenches... Minor artist, but he has a part later.
Quote from: Cavebear on December 29, 2018, 12:42:41 AM
Well, not to spoils things, but pay attention to the German kid who got gassed in the trenches... Minor artist, but he has a part later.
A totally fascinating character. He was nearly shot, while fleeing unarmed, by a Tommy. The Tommy took pity. Bad Tommy!
Ernst Röhm would have been in charge if Adolf didn't make it through the war.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 29, 2018, 06:48:51 AM
Ernst Röhm would have been in charge if Adolf didn't make it through the war.
And I strongly suspect Ernst Röhm would have failed even worse than Hitler did. So yes, better for us if he was the Fearless Leader. With Ernst Röhm gone early, Albert Speer would have made a good leader (having been head of war economy). The other German High Command suits were suck ups, except for Rommel and Manstein and Guderian (field commanders, not staff fluff).
Quote from: Baruch on December 29, 2018, 12:58:51 AM
A totally fascinating character. He was nearly shot, while fleeing unarmed, by a Tommy. The Tommy took pity. Bad Tommy!
One of the great "what-if" stories. But actually he sat in a hospital bed and shaved off his bushy mustache because it interfered with the proper fitting of a gas mask... Hence the silly little mustache he wore to his death...
Quote from: Cavebear on December 29, 2018, 12:14:30 PM
One of the great "what-if" stories. But actually he sat in a hospital bed and shaved off his bushy mustache because it interfered with the proper fitting of a gas mask... Hence the silly little mustache he wore to his death...
Hitler had two nephews. One served in the US Navy in WW II, as a pharmacist mate. Now that was in interesting guy ... didn't have that world conquering ambition thingy.