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Title: For the fighting men and women of every nation/tribe ...
Post by: Baruch on July 22, 2018, 11:48:21 AM
Estonian SS troops in 1944 ... defending Estonia, on the losing side.  We now have NATO troops in Estonia, in direct threat to St Petersburg.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-4COtK79Ec

P-38 Lightning, prettiest, deadliest US plane of that era ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNNEj5-6aOk
Title: Re: For the fighting men and women of every nation/tribe ...
Post by: Baruch on July 22, 2018, 12:30:13 PM
Classic Navy action from WW I ... Battle of Jutland, crossing-the-T

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_UryFjKUsM
Title: Re: For the fighting men and women of every nation/tribe ...
Post by: Mike Cl on July 22, 2018, 12:51:01 PM
Quote from: Baruch on July 22, 2018, 12:30:13 PM
Classic Navy action from WW I ... Battle of Jutland, crossing-the-T

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_UryFjKUsM
Most likely I am the only person on this board--or many others--who played The Battle of Jutland, by Avalon Hill.  It did not have a board, but the floor (ocean) and used rulers to guide movement--great looking markers for the various actual ships involved in the battle.  Took hours to play.  But that was what AH was about--great(est) producer of board war games.  But they also had other types, all good.
Title: Re: For the fighting men and women of every nation/tribe ...
Post by: Baruch on July 22, 2018, 01:23:13 PM
Very hard, to simulate the fog of war (literally with the navies).  Today it is shooting fish in a barrel ;-(  New anti-ship weapons are very ... deadly.  Hence the danger of nuclear escalation.  I used to play a one-person modern navy game on my old Mac ... North Atlantic ... NATO vs Soviet Union.  Pretty much the same old rules ... if you have air superiority, count only on your submarines, and only if the opponent doesn't know where they are hiding.

WW I, WW II, modern ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQK6hH5-nwU

Jazzed up, for game play, of course.  Multiplayer teams, with fog.
Title: Re: For the fighting men and women of every nation/tribe ...
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 22, 2018, 01:37:21 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on July 22, 2018, 12:51:01 PM
Most likely I am the only person on this board--or many others--who played The Battle of Jutland, by Avalon Hill. 
Ahem.
Title: Re: For the fighting men and women of every nation/tribe ...
Post by: Mike Cl on July 22, 2018, 01:45:25 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on July 22, 2018, 01:37:21 PM
Ahem.
My bad--so you've played it.  I do wish I know what I did with that game; now that I've mentioned it, it would be fun to drag it out and go another game.  You must have played others, then.  My favs, back in the day, were D-Day, Tactics II, Panzer Blitz, Gettysburg, Rail Baron and Facts-n-Five.  Oh yes, and Dune, the hotel building one, and had Starship Troopers, but never played it.
Title: Re: For the fighting men and women of every nation/tribe ...
Post by: Hakurei Reimu on July 22, 2018, 05:19:13 PM
Crossing the T is discredited nowadays â€" it's askin' for a paddlin'. Whatever a crossing-T can do, an angled cross can do, and you don't expose as much of your profile to oncoming fire, and your armor is angled against AP shots.

Yes, I do follow The Mighty Jingles. Why do you ask?
Title: Re: For the fighting men and women of every nation/tribe ...
Post by: Baruch on July 22, 2018, 06:02:11 PM
Quote from: Hakurei Reimu on July 22, 2018, 05:19:13 PM
Crossing the T is discredited nowadays â€" it's askin' for a paddlin'. Whatever a crossing-T can do, an angled cross can do, and you don't expose as much of your profile to oncoming fire, and your armor is angled against AP shots.

Yes, I do follow The Mighty Jingles. Why do you ask?

Kudos if you follow The Mighty Jingles ;-)  In the age of sail, you were lucky just to close within cannon range.  And with Jutland, they didn't have much naval air forces yet.  So everything still moved pretty slow, if not dependent on wind.
Title: Re: For the fighting men and women of every nation/tribe ...
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 22, 2018, 06:39:01 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on July 22, 2018, 01:45:25 PM
My bad--so you've played it.  I do wish I know what I did with that game; now that I've mentioned it, it would be fun to drag it out and go another game.  You must have played others, then.  My favs, back in the day, were D-Day, Tactics II, Panzer Blitz, Gettysburg, Rail Baron and Facts-n-Five.  Oh yes, and Dune, the hotel building one, and had Starship Troopers, but never played it.
Battle of the Bulge was my favorite.

I connected with "Jutland" because I played it in a WWI barracks that was still in use in 1969. My team was kicking back one evening with all those pieces strung out on the floor in the "rec room". The base commander walked in and eyeballed the setup up. "Keep the battlecruisers in reserve!" and he walked out.
Title: Re: For the fighting men and women of every nation/tribe ...
Post by: Mike Cl on July 22, 2018, 07:13:50 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on July 22, 2018, 06:39:01 PM
Battle of the Bulge was my favorite.

I connected with "Jutland" because I played it in a WWI barracks that was still in use in 1969. My team was kicking back one evening with all those pieces strung out on the floor in the "rec room". The base commander walked in and eyeballed the setup up. "Keep the battlecruisers in reserve!" and he walked out.
My very fav was D-Day.  But I was talked into joining my local Nat. Guard unit because its commander lived next door to me for awhile, and we played a few games of Panzer Blitz. We were playing a game and my service came up; told him I was in Army Intel. and I told him that I did not carry a rifle and did not want to be infantry.  So, he offered to make me the photo guy, and if I went to NBC school, I would then be made the NBC NCO and in charge of the unit's training.  So, I accepted. 
Title: Re: For the fighting men and women of every nation/tribe ...
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 22, 2018, 07:36:35 PM
My job on shore duty always involved looking at pictures.
Title: Re: For the fighting men and women of every nation/tribe ...
Post by: Baruch on July 22, 2018, 11:14:25 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on July 22, 2018, 07:36:35 PM
My job on shore duty always involved looking at pictures.

Lots of girl spies on the beaches, right? ;-)
Title: Re: For the fighting men and women of every nation/tribe ...
Post by: Cavebear on July 25, 2018, 11:48:26 AM
Quote from: Mike Cl on July 22, 2018, 01:45:25 PM
My bad--so you've played it.  I do wish I know what I did with that game; now that I've mentioned it, it would be fun to drag it out and go another game.  You must have played others, then.  My favs, back in the day, were D-Day, Tactics II, Panzer Blitz, Gettysburg, Rail Baron and Facts-n-Five.  Oh yes, and Dune, the hotel building one, and had Starship Troopers, but never played it.

I have AH Gettysburg, Origins Of WWI and some other about WWII in almost pristine condition.  I had a friend as a teen who could play Risk, and tried Gettysburg once, but I never never found anyone to play the really complicated ones.  I did find a defunct game club locally 15 years ago but the only member I could find said he would never play an AH game. 

If someone else had the same game, it might be possible to do it online.  I sure would like to prepare for Pickett's Charge or do it myself...  Just a thought.
Title: Re: For the fighting men and women of every nation/tribe ...
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 25, 2018, 12:04:45 PM
I put two batteries of cannon on top of Big Round Top once. My opponent was freaking.
Title: Re: For the fighting men and women of every nation/tribe ...
Post by: Cavebear on July 25, 2018, 12:21:28 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on July 25, 2018, 12:04:45 PM
I put two batteries of cannon on top of Big Round Top once. My opponent was freaking.

That was sure a good place.  And on Little Round top with infantry shooting downhill.

We have GOT to figure out a way to play AH Gettysburg among ourselves somehow...
Title: Re: For the fighting men and women of every nation/tribe ...
Post by: Mike Cl on July 25, 2018, 12:40:16 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on July 25, 2018, 11:48:26 AM
I have AH Gettysburg, Origins Of WWI and some other about WWII in almost pristine condition.  I had a friend as a teen who could play Risk, and tried Gettysburg once, but I never never found anyone to play the really complicated ones.  I did find a defunct game club locally 15 years ago but the only member I could find said he would never play an AH game. 

If someone else had the same game, it might be possible to do it online.  I sure would like to prepare for Pickett's Charge or do it myself...  Just a thought.
I have had the same problem, finding a playing partner.  Many AH games were 'too complicated', so they would bow out.  I play tons more AH games by myself.  It is fun, but being 'fair' is next to impossible.  I did find one guy in HS that loved D-Day as much as I did.  So we must have played 50/60 games over the years.  But AH did come out with a few solo games--Ambush being the first, I think.  I've played that a few times, and it is pretty well done.  It's set in WWII and that is one of my favorite type war games.  If you can find that, you might give it a try.  In the 70's several solo war games came out.  I remember thinking Operation Olympic (the US invasion of the Japanese home islands) and Wolfpack (WWII sub operations) as being pretty good. 

I no longer have Gettysburg any more and not sure what happened to it. 
Title: Re: For the fighting men and women of every nation/tribe ...
Post by: Cavebear on July 25, 2018, 05:24:56 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on July 25, 2018, 12:40:16 PM
I have had the same problem, finding a playing partner.  Many AH games were 'too complicated', so they would bow out.  I play tons more AH games by myself.  It is fun, but being 'fair' is next to impossible.  I did find one guy in HS that loved D-Day as much as I did.  So we must have played 50/60 games over the years.  But AH did come out with a few solo games--Ambush being the first, I think.  I've played that a few times, and it is pretty well done.  It's set in WWII and that is one of my favorite type war games.  If you can find that, you might give it a try.  In the 70's several solo war games came out.  I remember thinking Operation Olympic (the US invasion of the Japanese home islands) and Wolfpack (WWII sub operations) as being pretty good. 

I no longer have Gettysburg any more and not sure what happened to it.

Its on ebay.  Want to try a game.  Might take months.
Title: Re: For the fighting men and women of every nation/tribe ...
Post by: Mike Cl on July 25, 2018, 05:31:12 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on July 25, 2018, 05:24:56 PM
Its on ebay.  Want to try a game.  Might take months.
Or years.
Title: Re: For the fighting men and women of every nation/tribe ...
Post by: Cavebear on July 25, 2018, 05:36:49 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on July 25, 2018, 05:31:12 PM
Or years.

I probably have 20-30 left.  Dr just sent me a letter saying basically that I was disgustingly healthy.
Title: Re: For the fighting men and women of every nation/tribe ...
Post by: Mike Cl on July 25, 2018, 05:42:24 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on July 25, 2018, 05:36:49 PM
I probably have 20-30 left.  Dr just sent me a letter saying basically that I was disgustingly healthy.
Congrats!
Title: Re: For the fighting men and women of every nation/tribe ...
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 25, 2018, 05:47:04 PM
Anybody play Ages of Empire II?
Title: Re: For the fighting men and women of every nation/tribe ...
Post by: Unbeliever on July 25, 2018, 05:48:32 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on July 25, 2018, 05:36:49 PM
I probably have 20-30 left.  Dr just sent me a letter saying basically that I was disgustingly healthy.
You have the same doctor as Trump?

;-)
Title: Re: For the fighting men and women of every nation/tribe ...
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 25, 2018, 05:50:15 PM
Quote from: Hakurei Reimu on July 22, 2018, 05:19:13 PM
Crossing the T is discredited nowadays â€" it's askin' for a paddlin'. Whatever a crossing-T can do, an angled cross can do, and you don't expose as much of your profile to oncoming fire, and your armor is angled against AP shots.

Yes, I do follow The Mighty Jingles. Why do you ask?
But the oncoming enemy can only fire a few of the forward guns, while the crossing force can  bring almost all of theirs to bear on the leading ships.
Title: Re: For the fighting men and women of every nation/tribe ...
Post by: Cavebear on July 25, 2018, 05:51:22 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on July 25, 2018, 05:42:24 PM
Congrats!
Well I have to say, after not visiting a DR for 10 years, hearing that my HDL was good, my LDL was good, my heart beat was 60 something, my liver and kidney functions were very good (after drinking like a fish for a few decades ago), no prostate problems at all, my pulse was 130 over 65, I'm thrilled.  I could use some additional Vitamin D. 

I think I might start bowling and playing golf again.  Breaking 100 in either would be nice.  KIDDING!  I played to 85 in golf (I'm not good) and 170 bowling (straight ball tosser).  Wow, I feel 60 again! 

;)
Title: Re: For the fighting men and women of every nation/tribe ...
Post by: Cavebear on July 25, 2018, 05:52:29 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on July 25, 2018, 05:48:32 PM
You have the same doctor as Trump?

;-)

No, an actual one...