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Title: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: pr126 on June 30, 2018, 11:58:32 AM
Anyone not fatally brainwashed will agree to this article.

Opposing the Transgender Movement (https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/06/opposing_the_transgender_movement.html)
QuoteHow do those of us still grounded in reality fight this insanity?  Not with misguided "compassion" or compromise, but with straight talk and tough love.  Let's not waste our time analyzing or answering absurd gender theories with logical rebuttals.  Those ideas don't deserve that respect.  And the useful idiots who swallow the trans lies â€" whether as promoters, allies, or victims â€" will not listen to reason or science.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Baruch on June 30, 2018, 12:25:26 PM
Actually I have to disagree ... biology and psychology from 1900 or 1800 is obsolete.  Philosophy and theology are woo.  I accept people as individuals ... who share many common traits.  Pure empiricism.  There are as many genders/sexes/body types as there actually are, not as we simplify them, either out of stupidity or out of malice.

However, on the question of rights ... the idea that every individual can declare their own invented body, sex or gender ... in legal terms ... is a matter of politics, not of biology.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: pr126 on June 30, 2018, 01:33:13 PM
Transgender persons are collateral damage in this culture war. A one-sided culture war, if not stopped.

Ruined lives, suicides, induced mental disorders are the price these unfortunate people are paying for a political progressive ideology.

There are three genders. Males, females and the mentally disturbed.






Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Baruch on June 30, 2018, 02:04:23 PM
Quote from: pr126 on June 30, 2018, 01:33:13 PM
Transgender persons are collateral damage in this culture war. A one-sided culture war, if not stopped.

Ruined lives, suicides, induced mental disorders are the price these unfortunate people are paying for a political progressive ideology.

There are three genders. Males, females and the mentally disturbed.

Can't agree.  Empirically there are no males or females, just individuals.  Every man is part woman, and vice versa.

Yes, gays and other sexual minorities have been recruited by the Left.  Just as ethnic minorities were.  Wedges to destroy the status quo.  They are being used by the Left and abused by the Right.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: GSOgymrat on June 30, 2018, 02:09:51 PM
Quote from: pr126 on June 30, 2018, 11:58:32 AM
Anyone not fatally brainwashed will agree to this article.

Opposing the Transgender Movement (https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/06/opposing_the_transgender_movement.html)

Because I don't agree with you, I'm considered fatally brainwashed and therefore there is no reason for me to respond to any of your posts. You're not going to respect anything I have to say.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Mermaid on June 30, 2018, 02:48:09 PM
Quote from: pr126 on June 30, 2018, 01:33:13 PM
Transgender persons are collateral damage in this culture war. A one-sided culture war, if not stopped.

Ruined lives, suicides, induced mental disorders are the price these unfortunate people are paying for a political progressive ideology.

There are three genders. Males, females and the mentally disturbed.







If that's what you believe, great. But why do you even care? It doesn't affect you.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Mermaid on June 30, 2018, 02:48:48 PM
Quote from: pr126 on June 30, 2018, 11:58:32 AM
Anyone not fatally brainwashed will agree to this article.

Opposing the Transgender Movement (https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/06/opposing_the_transgender_movement.html)
It must be frustrating to be so much smarter and more woke than everyone else.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Baruch on June 30, 2018, 03:07:25 PM
Quote from: Mermaid on June 30, 2018, 02:48:48 PM
It must be frustrating to be so much smarter and more woke than everyone else.

Prophets are like that;-(  Everyone is a genius in their own eyes.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: PickelledEggs on June 30, 2018, 03:14:27 PM
I think the only person fatally brainwashed in this thread is the OP
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: PickelledEggs on June 30, 2018, 03:15:19 PM
Also. That website looks like it's from the dawn of the internet... Kind of like how it's non-factual views are from the dawn of humans
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on June 30, 2018, 03:33:11 PM
For People's Republic it's still 1952.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: PickelledEggs on June 30, 2018, 05:20:34 PM
For a good laugh, read the comments section of pr's link


https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/06/opposing_the_transgender_movement_comments.html#disqus_thread
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Munch on June 30, 2018, 06:05:30 PM
I was friends with someone who was transgender a while back, from girl to guy, and he told me his transition made him happy, and I could see it after spending a holiday with him.
I believe that anyone should do what they need to do to try and find some happiness and stability in their lives.

Now, forcing everyone to conform to a set of ideas like gender politics is something else entirely, there is a difference between people seeking a happy basis in life, and trying to force the world to be shaped around you. My friend never had any interest in that, he just wanted to be what made him happy. He didn't try to throw society out of whack, he just did what he wanted to for himself.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: SGOS on June 30, 2018, 06:21:29 PM
Great fodder here for some serious ranting as well as name calling.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Johan on June 30, 2018, 06:39:29 PM
I view the concept of transgender individuals almost exactly the same way I view gay marriage. It is an issue that effects only those who participate in it. It negatively impacts no one who isn't participating and to a very large degree only negatively impacts participants because of those who will never participate and are unwilling to accept it. Put another way, if you are an individual who is never going to participate in it and you have a problem with it, YOU are the problem.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: pr126 on June 30, 2018, 11:52:21 PM
Except those who do not participate in it, MADE to participate in it by law.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiijS_9hPkM
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: PickelledEggs on July 01, 2018, 01:12:17 AM
Quote from: pr126 on June 30, 2018, 11:52:21 PM
Except those who do not participate in it, MADE to participate in it by law.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiijS_9hPkM
As much as I like JP, he severely does not understand that law. It is illegal to officially refer to someone by their non-preferred pronouns in documents, especially legal documents. Informal incorrect pronouns are not punishable in any way shape or form.

And it should be that way.

At the same time, JP is right that it shouldn't be policed at a social and informal level. He absolutely has a point. For instance, me calling you a "her" or calling a girl a "him" should not be punishable. But also, it isn't illegal anyway, regardless of what the unhinged conservative media will tell you
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: PickelledEggs on July 01, 2018, 01:12:34 AM
Nice try, though
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: pr126 on July 01, 2018, 02:59:44 AM
Is it really because society really cares about the transgendered person's feeling or is it a political football for the purpose of social engineering?

It seems to me that this is a creation of a new victim group that was not visible before to further destabilize society and culture.

So I am asking where a 2-3-year-old child suddenly gets the idea that he/she is in the wrong body?
From their indoctrinated parents or teachers/childminders of state-controlled nurseries.

Also, why this phenomenon is restricted to western societies/cultures? 

Why are we in the west normalizing mental illness? Because of ideology/politics.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s57T27M1ZXk
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: pr126 on July 01, 2018, 03:19:35 AM
Then there is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOj0a2NPIpI
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Baruch on July 01, 2018, 04:11:26 AM
There were examples, in the 80s, of anti-child-abuse counselors convincing tots of child abuse that never happened.  Influencing a child is a great responsibility ... and shouldn't be subject to politics.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: SGOS on July 01, 2018, 07:08:29 AM
Quote from: PickelledEggs on July 01, 2018, 01:12:17 AM
As much as I like JP, he severely does not understand that law. It is illegal to officially refer to someone by their non-preferred pronouns in documents, especially legal documents. Informal incorrect pronouns are not punishable in any way shape or form.

And it should be that way.

At the same time, JP is right that it shouldn't be policed at a social and informal level. He absolutely has a point. For instance, me calling you a "her" or calling a girl a "him" should not be punishable. But also, it isn't illegal anyway, regardless of what the unhinged conservative media will tell you
Now I get it.  This post probably did more to explain what all the flap was about better than anything I've read so far.  I've heard some discussions on NPR, but frankly I wasn't paying attention.  They were just a discussions, and no one was up in arms about anything.  I thought it was just a curious movement that was gaining some traction.  But I wasn't drawn in to it, and didn't sense a right or wrong to it.  At worst, I think I was irritated at the idea of more parts of speech that would need to be learned.  If it were up to me, I would get rid of some pronouns, rather than add more.  English is hard enough as it is. 
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: SGOS on July 01, 2018, 08:40:26 AM
Quote from: PickelledEggs on July 01, 2018, 01:12:17 AM
But also, it isn't illegal anyway, regardless of what the unhinged conservative media will tell you
The right is as easily triggered as anyone else.  Probably more so.  The word triggered was sized by the right to disparage the left as overly emotional and adolescent, at least that's the way I perceive its use in this forum as people seem to delight in "triggering" the SJWs, but that's just another example of a right wing projection of one of their own short comings.  I don't think you can find a better example of how that right manages to trigger themselves into knots even without help from the left than this transgender identification issue.  Maybe the trans genders are going out of their way with the pronoun thing just to piss off the right, although I doubt it, because unlike the right, I don't sense they're are gloating over pissing off the opposition.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Johan on July 01, 2018, 10:37:52 AM
Quote from: pr126 on June 30, 2018, 11:52:21 PM
Except those who do not participate in it, MADE to participate in it by law.

Oh you poor thing. The law is forcing you to make sure that when you create a legal document, you refer to a person as him or her according to their preference. Oh the fucking horror. How will you ever find the strength to live a somewhat normal existence again? Puh lease.

I say again. Someone else choosing to change their gender does not impact or effect you. At. All.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: PickelledEggs on July 01, 2018, 10:40:34 AM
Yeah, @SGOS , for instance, if I was a person working the dept of motor vehicles and I incorectly referred to you as "she" on a legal document, that would be punishable by law, but me saying she or whatever is not going to get me in any legal trouble.


And @pr126 mental illness? really? At least I know what I'm dealing with. If you're hell-bent on thinking gender dysphoria is the same as schizophrenia or dementia, then I don't really know how I'm supposed to have a conversation with you
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: PickelledEggs on July 01, 2018, 10:43:53 AM
I've been especially careful to not call someone a "closed-minded bigot" because of how freely it's been thrown around as of recent, but I can definitely say at this point, that pr, you are clinically, on a "definition of the words" level scale, a closed-minded bigot
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Mermaid on July 01, 2018, 11:14:00 AM
Quote from: pr126 on June 30, 2018, 11:52:21 PM
Except those who do not participate in it, MADE to participate in it by law.


Are you kidding? Please tell me you're kidding.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Baruch on July 01, 2018, 11:26:34 AM
Quote from: PickelledEggs on July 01, 2018, 10:40:34 AM
Yeah, @SGOS , for instance, if I was a person working the dept of motor vehicles and I incorectly referred to you as "she" on a legal document, that would be punishable by law, but me saying she or whatever is not going to get me in any legal trouble.


And @pr126 mental illness? really? At least I know what I'm dealing with. If you're hell-bent on thinking gender dysphoria is the same as schizophrenia or dementia, then I don't really know how I'm supposed to have a conversation with you

But should that person get executed by firing squad courtesy of the commissars?
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Baruch on July 01, 2018, 11:28:03 AM
Quote from: Johan on July 01, 2018, 10:37:52 AM
Oh you poor thing. The law is forcing you to make sure that when you create a legal document, you refer to a person as him or her according to their preference. Oh the fucking horror. How will you ever find the strength to live a somewhat normal existence again? Puh lease.

I say again. Someone else choosing to change their gender does not impact or effect you. At. All.

Easy solution?  Just call everyone It ... no Mr, Mrs or Ms.  Much easier to type than LBGTXYZ.  As an It, you are just a meat-robot, and the Boss can do with you whatever he/she likes.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 01, 2018, 11:30:17 AM
People's Republic is Alt-Right Public Relations.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Baruch on July 01, 2018, 11:30:57 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on July 01, 2018, 11:30:17 AM
People's Republic is Alt-Right Public Relations.

Why does the Left embrace every butt-hurt situation on Earth?  Hemorrhoids is my theory ;-)
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: PickelledEggs on July 01, 2018, 11:32:56 AM
Quote from: Baruch on July 01, 2018, 11:26:34 AM
But should that person get executed by firing squad courtesy of the commissars?
What the actual fuck are you talking about?

Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Baruch on July 01, 2018, 11:36:17 AM
Quote from: PickelledEggs on July 01, 2018, 11:32:56 AM
What the actual fuck are you talking about?

Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

In the US, LBGTXYZ is a policy branch of the Democrat party.  I oppose every policy they do.  I don't opposed Native Americans, African-Americans, Gays etc.  I do opposed Democrat exploitation of vulnerable people (aka LBJ etc).  So "movement" means to me ... politics.  Politics isn't a medical condition as gender etc are ... unless you count sociopathy as a medical problem.  And yes, I hate Republican policies too.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: aitm on July 01, 2018, 12:23:46 PM
"We" know for a fact that there are roughly 1.5-2% of the population that are born with varying degrees of both sex organs. Both sex organs. This should easily convince anyone with a brain that if physical androgyny exists then psychological androgyny must as well. To that the human animal is not singularly male or female but each individual lies somewhere on along a long line from the alpha male to the "Z" female. Each individual finds itself along this line not by choice but by the minor glitches of our genetic makeup.

Consider that A is the rare male, his traits usually are domination, aggression, and brute force. He was the type to be the chief of the ancient tribe, he ruled by sheer raw power. Then we mosey down towards M which would be the perfect asexual person with or without both genitalia. From A to M we have a declining slide of "masculinity" towards "femininity". From M to Z we loose that masculinity and gain "femininity" until we reach Z the rare female so passive and  demure as to be rather walking milk toast.  Somewhere from J to Q lay the world of homosexuality and transgender personality. But understand that as we slide along the scale say from A to M the male looses masculinity and gains femininity and continues in like reverse order from M to Z.

This is a rather simplistic theory I came up with many years ago simply by observing the behavior of both males and females. We all have male friends who run the gamut of masculinity from those we really can't tolerate due to their aggressive nature to guys we think should be gay but are not. Then women are gay with a heavy masculine nature to those we think should be gay but are not then into the more typical woman and finally into that super demure, passive and simply too sweet and kind that she probably can't even live on her own.

No insults intended. Just a simplistic view on how I see the human animal.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Mermaid on July 01, 2018, 12:45:34 PM
I cannot for the life of me understand why treating people with respect is so hard and is such a problem for so many people. You don't have to get involved or "Do" anything other than be a decent person. You don't go to a party and say "Hey, you are a purple alien!" to people you meet because they are not purple aliens. You call them by the name and pronoun they give you.

How is that so goddamn hard?
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Baruch on July 01, 2018, 12:53:43 PM
Quote from: Mermaid on July 01, 2018, 12:45:34 PM
I cannot for the life of me understand why treating people with respect is so hard and is such a problem for so many people. You don't have to get involved or "Do" anything other than be a decent person. You don't go to a party and say "Hey, you are a purple alien!" to people you meet because they are not purple aliens. You call them by the name and pronoun they give you.

How is that so goddamn hard?

Respect is easy ... but treating even the majority as uber-menschen ... is not what I mean by respect.  I treat every person as an individual, but that doesn't mean I respect one's thought crimes or criminal behavior ... as OK, that stuff is just a variant, there is nothing wrong with it.  That is why I have no problem with gay marriage, not because of some political theory or idealism, but because I am pro marriage, including for people who are variant.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: pr126 on July 01, 2018, 01:11:55 PM
Never mind.

Today transgendered is used as a political tool. Flavor of the month.

There is probably a new victim group already in the making and the left will rally around them for a while.

I do not think anyone here is really concerned about the trans peoples' welfare except that there is special pleading can be made on their behalf. And of course an occasion for virtue signaling.

The fact that trans are ruined for life for a political ideology is not a matter of concern.

What I find really abhorrent is that toddlers are brainwashed, used as pawns for this repulsive ideology.
That is child abuse.

Shame on those who stand by and look the other way. Their moral compass is broken.

Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Baruch on July 01, 2018, 01:16:34 PM
Quote from: pr126 on July 01, 2018, 01:11:55 PM
Never mind.

Today transgendered is used as a political tool. Flavor of the month.

There is probably a new victim group already in the making and the left will rally around them for a while.

I do not think anyone here is really concerned about the trans peoples' welfare except that there is special pleading can be made on their behalf. And of course an occasion for virtue signaling.

The fact that trans are ruined for life for a political ideology is not a matter of concern.

What I find really abhorrent is that toddlers are brainwashed, used as pawns for this repulsive ideology.
That is child abuse.

Shame on those who stand by and look the other way. Their moral compass is broken.

Those who control the children, control the future.  The New Soviet Man or Uber-Mensch must be built thru psycho-eugenics.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Munch on July 01, 2018, 01:25:19 PM
Quote from: pr126 on July 01, 2018, 01:11:55 PM
Never mind.

Today transgendered is used as a political tool. Flavor of the month.

There is probably a new victim group already in the making and the left will rally around them for a while.

I do not think anyone here is really concerned about the trans peoples' welfare except that there is special pleading can be made on their behalf. And of course an occasion for virtue signaling.

The fact that trans are ruined for life for a political ideology is not a matter of concern.

What I find really abhorrent is that toddlers are brainwashed, used as pawns for this repulsive ideology.
That is child abuse.

Shame on those who stand by and look the other way. Their moral compass is broken.

I do agree that forcing children into 'discovering their gender and identity' before their even old enough to understand what it even means is abhorrent, as much as putting the idea into a childs mind that gays are something to fear and be weary of. Children need to grow and discovering things for themselves, not have their parents forcing a ideology on them.
The only acceptable premise for this is just teaching kids to treat others with respect and be a decent human being.

I think about horror movies like sleepaway camp or the insidious movies when it comes to these things, [spoiler]since the antagonists in those movies are so from being forced into being a gender they weren't born as. [/spoiler]

Never force gender or political ideology on children, let them grow and learn and discover things for themselves. If they feel when they start to hit a point of age they don't feel right in their gender, that is what they have to discover and choose what they want to do with that infomation.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 01, 2018, 01:30:53 PM
Quote from: Mermaid on July 01, 2018, 12:45:34 PM
I cannot for the life of me understand why treating people with respect is so hard and is such a problem for so many people. You don't have to get involved or "Do" anything other than be a decent person. You don't go to a party and say "Hey, you are a purple alien!" to people you meet because they are not purple aliens. You call them by the name and pronoun they give you.

How is that so goddamn hard?
Some people were raised to believe that they were superior to other people because of who they were born to, they had the "right" parents. From there it's an easy step to looking down other people. The Y-donor was a Kluxxer, so this is all so very familiar to me.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Baruch on July 01, 2018, 01:57:39 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on July 01, 2018, 01:30:53 PM
Some people were raised to believe that they were superior to other people because of who they were born to, they had the "right" parents. From there it's an easy step to looking down other people. The Y-donor was a Kluxxer, so this is all so very familiar to me.

Some of my mother's people were Kluxers.  My father's side was more liberal, at least with respect to Mexicans.  So the question isn't just sexual variance, we have a 1000 ways to look down on people.  Britain is aware of and acknowledges class, but the US does not, it thinks it is already classless communism (with poor goody distribution).  One wag once said ... Americans have no class consciousness, because even the poor here think they are millionaires down on their luck ;-)
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Hydra009 on July 01, 2018, 07:30:11 PM
Quote from: pr126 on July 01, 2018, 01:11:55 PM
Today transgendered is used as a political tool.
You got me.  I'm actually part of a secret liberal cabal that created transgenderism in the 60s.

Before that, no one was trangender and everything was just peachy.  Then we illicitly drugged some college kids with LSD (all liberal universities do this) and got them to mistakenly believe that they're the wrong gender.  That way, we can bash conservatives for refusing to conform to our ever-changing party line.  Next step, world domination!
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Baruch on July 01, 2018, 10:29:31 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on July 01, 2018, 07:30:11 PM
You got me.  I'm actually part of a secret liberal cabal that created transgenderism in the 60s.

Before that, no one was trangender and everything was just peachy.  Then we illicitly drugged some college kids with LSD (all liberal universities do this) and got them to mistakenly believe that they're the wrong gender.  That way, we can bash conservatives for refusing to conform to our ever-changing party line.  Next step, world domination!

The Marxists stop at nothing I tell you!  Not even Christine Jorgensen.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: pr126 on July 01, 2018, 11:10:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8BRdwgPChQ
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on July 01, 2018, 11:18:59 PM
Quote from: PickelledEggs on June 30, 2018, 03:14:27 PM
I think the only person fatally brainwashed in this thread is the OP
What do you expect from a man who already thinks he has Muslims under his bed and feminists in his closet?
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: pr126 on July 01, 2018, 11:26:50 PM
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on July 01, 2018, 11:18:59 PM
What do you expect from a man who already thinks he has Muslims under his bed and feminists in his closet?
Just like the left who has Nazis under the bed? Anyone they don't like is "literally Hitler"?

Antifa "Bash the Fash"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hthHHX-oJh8

Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Jason Harvestdancer on July 01, 2018, 11:42:59 PM
In the 1990's it was "Bi-Straightuals", now it is "Trans-trenders".  The actual trans community is a lot smaller than the vocal Tumbler community.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Cavebear on July 02, 2018, 12:11:41 AM
Quote from: Johan on June 30, 2018, 06:39:29 PM
I view the concept of transgender individuals almost exactly the same way I view gay marriage. It is an issue that effects only those who participate in it. It negatively impacts no one who isn't participating and to a very large degree only negatively impacts participants because of those who will never participate and are unwilling to accept it. Put another way, if you are an individual who is never going to participate in it and you have a problem with it, YOU are the problem.

Wow, I was expecting to have to post exactly what you said there.  It doesn't really affect me, it is a minor matter to general society, they will never be an important group, hurrah for them to be happy, and I don't really care...
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on July 02, 2018, 09:30:32 AM
Quote from: pr126 on July 01, 2018, 11:26:50 PM
Just like the left who has Nazis under the bed? Anyone they don't like is "literally Hitler"?
There is an actual Nazi running for Congress in Illinois right now. (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/29/arthur-jones-nazi-illinois-republicans-686875) As in card-carrying, Hitler-saluting, Holocaust-denying Nazi. And in case you already forgot, actual Nazis killed people in Charlottesville last year and nothing was done about it.

The difference between our paranoia and yours is that ours is based in reality.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: PickelledEggs on July 02, 2018, 09:41:20 AM
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on July 01, 2018, 11:18:59 PM
What do you expect from a man who already thinks he has Muslims under his bed and feminists in his closet?
I literally laughed out loud haha
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Shiranu on July 02, 2018, 11:03:12 AM
Quote from: HijiriAnd in case you already forgot, actual Nazis killed people in Charlottesville last year and nothing was done about it.



Oh, there was something done about it; they were called "very fine people" by the president.

Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Baruch on July 02, 2018, 12:57:04 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on July 02, 2018, 11:03:12 AM
Oh, there was something done about it; they were called "very fine people" by the president.

Yes, by all means, turn the world into the Weimar Republic ... will work out so much better this time ;-(
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: SGOS on July 02, 2018, 02:03:07 PM
Wanting to be a Nazi is a strange need.  I get that some people are bigoted power crazed assholes, but you can be that without being a Nazi.  Why would anyone become a Nazi?  I'm wondering if the purpose is just to be shocking.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: SGOS on July 02, 2018, 02:04:06 PM
Don't fuck with me.  I'm a Nazi.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: PickelledEggs on July 02, 2018, 06:21:06 PM
"Yeah, but have you seen...
Yeah but.... have you seen this?
yeah but... you saw this, right?
Did you see this one?
What about this thing?
What about this ridiculously unrealistic thing?
And what about this one?
or this one?
This?
This?
how about this?
This one was posted to some old man's 1998 angelfire site. How about that one?
What about this one from the Daily Pube?
No?
.... fucking libtards."

A poem by pr.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Baruch on July 02, 2018, 06:28:30 PM
Quote from: SGOS on July 02, 2018, 02:03:07 PM
Wanting to be a Nazi is a strange need.  I get that some people are bigoted power crazed assholes, but you can be that without being a Nazi.  Why would anyone become a Nazi?  I'm wondering if the purpose is just to be shocking.

I think that could be so.  The most shocking would be the son of an Orthodox rabbi to show up at Purim as a Nazi.  Unless he is playing Haman of course.

Night At The Museum tried to humanize Genghis Khan ... all he needed was a hug!
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: trdsf on July 03, 2018, 01:09:22 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on June 30, 2018, 03:33:11 PM
For People's Republic it's still 1952.
That recent?  I was thinking 1252 or 1352, just chompin' at the bit to go out on another Crusade... or more likely, send someone else out on it so he can stay home and bitch about how they're not doing it his way.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: trdsf on July 03, 2018, 03:48:38 PM
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on July 02, 2018, 09:30:32 AM
There is an actual Nazi running for Congress in Illinois right now. (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/29/arthur-jones-nazi-illinois-republicans-686875) As in card-carrying, Hitler-saluting, Holocaust-denying Nazi. And in case you already forgot, actual Nazis killed people in Charlottesville last year and nothing was done about it.
Yeah, even Ted Cruz is saying to vote for the Democrat (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/29/ted-cruz-arthur-jones-vote-democrat-688743) in that district.  Funny how he couldn't do that in '16 -- I guess being a racist idiot only crosses the line when they actually embrace being called a Nazi.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 03, 2018, 06:03:24 PM
Quote from: trdsf on July 03, 2018, 01:09:22 PM
That recent?  I was thinking 1252 or 1352, just chompin' at the bit to go out on another Crusade... or more likely, send someone else out on it so he can stay home and bitch about how they're not doing it his way.
Best White Man Time for some folks was the Eisenhower Administration.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Baruch on July 03, 2018, 06:08:08 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on July 03, 2018, 06:03:24 PM
Best White Man Time for some folks was the Eisenhower Administration.

I was too little to remember that.  And while I do remember Kennedy, they didn't show him shagging all the chicks back then ;-)

The 50s were a unique time, with all the benefits of post-WW II, except spoiled by the Cold War and Korea.  However the 60s were remarkably worse in every way.  And that makes the 50s look better by comparison, particularly if you don't have any clear memories of it.

As far as rhetoric goes, I take this all the way back to the Stone Age ... nuckle dragging men and ugly women (who have to be forced to join the "mens" club).  Women were controlled by not providing them food from the hunt, not providing them protection from wildlife, not giving them sex or children (and those were the good techniques).  We know that ... women living only among women, is hell even for them.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Cavebear on July 04, 2018, 12:31:52 AM
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on July 02, 2018, 09:30:32 AM
There is an actual Nazi running for Congress in Illinois right now. (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/29/arthur-jones-nazi-illinois-republicans-686875) As in card-carrying, Hitler-saluting, Holocaust-denying Nazi. And in case you already forgot, actual Nazis killed people in Charlottesville last year and nothing was done about it.

The difference between our paranoia and yours is that ours is based in reality.

Yes, sure.  I agree.  The way to stop Nazis is to not let them into government and stop their attempts to make local militias supporting their ideas in freedom terms that appeal to crazy people who think vaccines are poisons, think that the "gummint" is out to steal their freedom to use federal parks for personal use, and are certain other people who aren't as nuts as them are COMMIES.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: pr126 on July 04, 2018, 04:16:48 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXK7cUeU0AELE09.jpg)
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Baruch on July 04, 2018, 07:14:14 AM
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on July 02, 2018, 09:30:32 AM
There is an actual Nazi running for Congress in Illinois right now. (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/29/arthur-jones-nazi-illinois-republicans-686875) As in card-carrying, Hitler-saluting, Holocaust-denying Nazi. And in case you already forgot, actual Nazis killed people in Charlottesville last year and nothing was done about it.

The difference between our paranoia and yours is that ours is based in reality.

Don't vote for the bastard then.  But it was OK for Nazis to march past a synagogue in Skokie Illinois .... or isn't that liberal?

And yes, we have real card carrying communists in government ... for decades now.  But they call themselves Marxists now ... so everything is OK.

Tell me folks, if you had a totalitarian asshole, who didn't dress up as Third Reich, would you still be afraid?  Or is it just the hot uniform?
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: PickelledEggs on July 04, 2018, 11:13:09 AM
I'm just glad I don't live inside pr's clinically extremely paranoid head.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 04, 2018, 11:41:16 AM
Quote from: PickelledEggs on July 04, 2018, 11:13:09 AM
I'm just glad I don't live inside pr's clinically extremely paranoid head.
I don't think anybody lives there. Just that thing Harry found under the bench in Not King's Cross.
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: PickelledEggs on July 04, 2018, 06:28:35 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on July 04, 2018, 11:41:16 AM
I don't think anybody lives there. Just that thing Harry found under the bench in Not King's Cross.
lmfao
Title: Re: Opposing the Transgender Movement
Post by: Cavebear on July 09, 2018, 01:25:29 AM
Quote from: PickelledEggs on July 04, 2018, 06:28:35 PM
lmfao

I don't think your opinion was "fucking arrogant".  It seems rational to me.

I'm a straight guy and I'm attracted to straight women.  I don't really get the attraction to other "arrangements".  But everyone needs what they need and desires who they desire.  Personally, I wish everyone was "straight" so that things would not be so complicated.  But reality is what reality is and I accept that.  I think it is time for some other people to get used to that.