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Title: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: SGOS on March 13, 2018, 01:09:17 PM
I can't think of why not, considering the blockbuster nature of all its films, but for some reason, I intuitively feel there is something correct about Hollywood snubbing Marvel.  None of the Oscar winners were among my favorites, but that's because Marvel made all of my favorites.  Not to say most of the Oscar winners were not good films.  Some were actually pretty good.  But my movie life today is built around waiting for the next Marvel movie filling in the spaces between with lesser fare.  I don't consider myself part of a niche group that is interested mostly in some obscure subject.  I think I'm part of a huge Marvel fan base, which is probably bigger than any other, although I might be more enamored than others with Marvel.  So what keeps Marvel out of contention?

Note, I didn't watch the Oscars, nor do I wish I had, but I did look up the winners after it was all over.  Maybe I missed something.
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Baruch on March 13, 2018, 01:11:25 PM
Hollyweird is secular, Jewish, Democrat ... and elitist (like the Clintons).
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Shiranu on March 13, 2018, 01:21:27 PM
Quote from: SGOS on March 13, 2018, 01:09:17 PM
I can't think of why not, considering the blockbuster nature of all its films, but for some reason, I intuitively feel there is something correct about Hollywood snubbing Marvel.  None of the Oscar winners were among my favorites, but that's because Marvel made all of my favorites.  Not to say most of the Oscar winners were not good films.  Some were actually pretty good.  But my movie life today is built around waiting for the next Marvel movie filling in the spaces between with lesser fare.  I don't consider myself part of a niche group that is interested mostly in some obscure subject.  I think I'm part of a huge Marvel fan base, which is probably bigger than any other, although I might be more enamored than others with Marvel.  So what keeps Marvel out of contention?

Note, I didn't watch the Oscars, nor do I wish I had, but I did look up the winners after it was all over.  Maybe I missed something.

Wait till this coming Oscars, there is a very good chance "Black Panther" walks away with something.

(On that note, anyone seen the reviews of BP coming out of China? "Too many black people, it made me feel uncomfortable and was unrelatable." --- "I have never been to a movie so black, I couldn't find my chair!", etc. . It's really getting slammed, but not even for anything film related. It has like a 60-something on the Chinese equivalent of Rotten Tomatoes, mostly of reviews like those.)
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 13, 2018, 01:44:54 PM
The Oscars were last week.
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Shiranu on March 13, 2018, 03:47:06 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on March 13, 2018, 01:44:54 PM
The Oscars were last week.

Right, but BP came out this year which made it ineligible for this one. For example, "Logan" was nominated during this Oscars... even though that came out basically a year ago.
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 13, 2018, 03:50:08 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on March 13, 2018, 03:47:06 PM
Right, but BP came out this year which made it ineligible for this one. For example, "Logan" was nominated during this Oscars... even though that came out basically a year ago.
Never paid that much attention to them. Gary Oldman earned his Oscar, that's all I know.
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Unbeliever on March 13, 2018, 03:53:29 PM
I'm really glad Gary Oldman won an Oscar, he's one of my favorite actors. I was really impressed with him in Romeo is Bleeding.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE6m_05dQfw



Damn, that was the wrong trailer!

Here's the one I meant to post:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHft_cw-RBI

Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: SGOS on March 13, 2018, 05:01:16 PM
After posting, I started thinking about the question, and I started to wonder if Hollywood views Marvel as kind of an unfit competitor.  Comic book writers making Hollywood films?  Comic book writers making more entertaining stories than Hollywood comes up with?  The audacity of such hacks might be too much to handle.
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Unbeliever on March 13, 2018, 05:17:10 PM
I see they actually have the full movie!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chBhexvayBo
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Baruch on March 13, 2018, 07:01:04 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on March 13, 2018, 01:21:27 PM
Wait till this coming Oscars, there is a very good chance "Black Panther" walks away with something.

(On that note, anyone seen the reviews of BP coming out of China? "Too many black people, it made me feel uncomfortable and was unrelatable." --- "I have never been to a movie so black, I couldn't find my chair!", etc. . It's really getting slammed, but not even for anything film related. It has like a 60-something on the Chinese equivalent of Rotten Tomatoes, mostly of reviews like those.)

No, not true.  Only White Male Republicans are racist!
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Munch on March 13, 2018, 08:15:57 PM
wanna know my thoughts on the oscars, and baftas, and all other award shows?

(https://media.giphy.com/media/yUYMP4WehmkeI/giphy.gif)

I no longer care what these piece of shit, integrity destroying, pre-brought mockeries of 'entertainment' try to offer. I've seen to many great movies either shit on or outright ignored by these organizations in favor of complete crap. They ignore things like the animation industry and independent film makers. They don't care about the art of film making, they would sooner vote in another michael bay smash and blast garbage pile then find films that people poured their heart and soul into.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpFvlghpAe4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY8vtL2Fbck

Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Hydra009 on March 13, 2018, 08:54:53 PM
I always thought that the Oscars were for *certain* kinds of movies - the "powerful performances" kind of movies, oscar-bait movies (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_bait) as opposed to the movies that the general public actually enjoys. (Not to imply that the general public doesn't like these movies at all, just that they're not representative of the successful films that year)

And while some sci-fi, fantasy, and animated films do win academy awards (Blade Runner 2049, Arrival, Fantastic Beasts, Suicide Squad, Zootopia, Fury Road, Interstellar, Big Hero 6) it's pretty obvious that they're underrepresented and superhero genre in particular (suicide squad, really?!) is seriously snubbed.

While I don't expect "elite" shows like this to cater to the average schlub's preferences, it does strike me as navel-gazing.  I can't say I'm a fan.  Though, then again, these ceremonies aren't really meant for me, are they?
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Hydra009 on March 13, 2018, 09:20:41 PM
And before I forget, Marvel has an Oscar.  Spider-Man 2 (2002) won an Academy award for Best Visual Effects.

Oh, and Dick Tracy (now here's a movie that stood the test of time!)  That's Marvel, right?  No?  Nvm.
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: SGOS on March 13, 2018, 10:57:51 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on March 13, 2018, 09:20:41 PM
Oh, and Dick Tracy (now here's a movie that stood the test of time!)  That's Marvel, right?  No?  Nvm.
Dick Tracy was a weekly syndicated comic that appeared every Sunday in the Chicago Tribune.  I don't know where else it appeared.  Our family only got the Tribune.  At that time of my life, Dick Tracy and everything else seemed like a part of eternity, but it finally got dropped long after I left home.  I never read Dick Tracy seriously because it was too serious for my young tastes, but I remember it because it always appeared on the top of the first page of the comic section.  I think it appeared daily in pen and ink drawings as part of the serial.  I would read the Sunday one once in a while, but never really knew what was going on having missed a weeks worth the series.  I remember the movie, but it didn't seem to capture the feel of the comic, although I can't say that with authority, as I never understood the comic version.
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Cavebear on March 15, 2018, 02:30:56 AM
Well, no Marvel (or DC) movie is likely to win an important Oscar because the Academy just doesn't like science fiction.  They want deep crying emotional movies that are "meaningful to the human condition", have famed actors on their knees "Stellllla..." or contentious close scenes (12 Angry Men), which I love.

Hollywood makes its money off of action and sci-fi movies but they won't love them.
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: SGOS on March 15, 2018, 04:14:35 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on March 15, 2018, 02:30:56 AM
Well, no Marvel (or DC) movie is likely to win an important Oscar because the Academy just doesn't like science fiction.  They want deep crying emotional movies that are "meaningful to the human condition",
Yeah, I don't get much enjoyment watching 90 minutes of some dude with emotional problems struggle with his existential angst.  Sure, there are people like that in real life.  I try to avoid them.
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Baruch on March 15, 2018, 05:34:40 AM
Quote from: SGOS on March 15, 2018, 04:14:35 AM
Yeah, I don't get much enjoyment watching 90 minutes of some dude with emotional problems struggle with his existential angst.  Sure, there are people like that in real life.  I try to avoid them.

Blame Euripides .. he invented the anti-hero.  Real heroes don't have emotional problems, they cause them.
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Cavebear on March 15, 2018, 06:06:22 AM
Quote from: SGOS on March 15, 2018, 04:14:35 AM
Yeah, I don't get much enjoyment watching 90 minutes of some dude with emotional problems struggle with his existential angst.  Sure, there are people like that in real life.  I try to avoid them.

There IS a certain simplicity about "Hulk, Smash", and when the Hulk grabbed Loki by the feet and just beat him around on the floor in that Avengers movie, I had to  to both laugh and cheer.  And his "Puny Gods" was a great line.
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: SGOS on March 15, 2018, 06:25:47 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on March 15, 2018, 06:06:22 AM
There IS a certain simplicity about "Hulk, Smash", and when the Hulk grabbed Loki by the feet and just beat him around on the floor in that Avengers movie, I had to  to both laugh and cheer.  And his "Puny Gods" was a great line.
Yeah, the was one of the most surprising and best executed scenes I've ever seen out of Hollywood.

I've seen some bloggers claim without the angst, except for the Hulk, although Banner himself is highly conflicted, the superhero film fails.  Whatever.  That seems a rather nitpicky complaint and is even contrary to what I want to watch.  Sure an emotionally insecure superhero could be an interesting character, and could be a good idea, but after Hollywood makes it a part of the superhero formula, it becomes a redundant bore, and I want to scream at the screen, "Can't you guys think of anything new?"
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Baruch on March 15, 2018, 06:26:55 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on March 15, 2018, 06:06:22 AM
There IS a certain simplicity about "Hulk, Smash", and when the Hulk grabbed Loki by the feet and just beat him around on the floor in that Avengers movie, I had to  to both laugh and cheer.  And his "Puny Gods" was a great line.

Yes!  Embrace the anger!

Sometimes protagonists just have to shut up, and smash something or someone!
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Cavebear on March 15, 2018, 06:47:57 AM
Quote from: SGOS on March 15, 2018, 06:25:47 AM
Yeah, the was one of the most surprising and best executed scenes I've ever seen out of Hollywood.

I've seen some bloggers claim without the angst, except for the Hulk, although Banner himself is highly conflicted, the superhero film fails.  Whatever.  That seems a rather nitpicky complaint and is even contrary to what I want to watch.  Sure an emotionally insecure superhero could be an interesting character, and could be a good idea, but after Hollywood makes it a part of the superhero formula, it becomes a redundant bore, and I want to scream at the screen, "Can't you guys think of anything new?"

The Hulk has always been an interesting character.  I know him from the start when he was both smart like Bruce Banner AND been crazy strong, and as he separated from rationality later.  Different writers have had different views of him, and I understand the latest view is that Bruce Banner was an abused child. 

But there were 2 other scenes I liked.  First, when Banner said you shot a gun into his mouth and the Hulk spit it out (suggesting speed of transition) and when he walked up to one of those dragons in Avengers 2? and changed saying "I'm always angry" as he swung at it as Bruce and landed the blow as the Hulk!

I saw a Ragnarok teaser with the Hulk attacking Fenris or the Midgard Dragon (not sure which) and the meesing with the mythology vaguely bothers me, but it seemed a fair match, LOL!
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 15, 2018, 10:42:19 AM
Comic book movies are based on comics. This causes the pig's ear quandry; how can a movie rise above it's source material?
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 15, 2018, 10:42:58 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on March 15, 2018, 06:06:22 AM
There IS a certain simplicity about "Hulk, Smash", and when the Hulk grabbed Loki by the feet and just beat him around on the floor in that Avengers movie, I had to  to both laugh and cheer.  And his "Puny Gods" was a great line.
"Puny god."
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: SGOS on March 15, 2018, 11:13:58 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on March 15, 2018, 10:42:19 AM
Comic book movies are based on comics. This causes the pig's ear quandry; how can a movie rise above it's source material?
The old response from many movie goers was often, "It wasn't as good as the book," and sometimes I would agree, but not always.  Movies can be better, but maybe not an accurate detailed reproduction of the source.  Not having read the actual comics, but from parts of discussions here, I understand the Marvel often doesn't always hold true to the comics, although, I don't hear that necessarily as a complaint.  It's more like an observation most of the time.
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Hydra009 on March 15, 2018, 02:02:30 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on March 15, 2018, 10:42:19 AM
Comic book movies are based on comics. This causes the pig's ear quandry; how can a movie rise above it's source material?
Oh?  Pray tell, what is inherently wrong with a writer putting the story in a comics format?
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Cavebear on March 15, 2018, 02:10:32 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on March 15, 2018, 10:42:58 AM
"Puny god."

Well, yeah. it WAS "puny god".    But he wasn't too kind to Thor either, LOL!
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Cavebear on March 15, 2018, 02:15:03 PM
Quote from: SGOS on March 15, 2018, 11:13:58 AM
The old response from many movie goers was often, "It wasn't as good as the book," and sometimes I would agree, but not always.  Movies can be better, but maybe not an accurate detailed reproduction of the source.  Not having read the actual comics, but from parts of discussions here, I understand the Marvel often doesn't always hold true to the comics, although, I don't hear that necessarily as a complaint.  It's more like an observation most of the time.

It takes a True Believer from the Origin days of Marvel comics in the 60s to know.  And I suppose it doesn't really matter to anyone but us.  But we do remember...  ;)
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Hydra009 on March 15, 2018, 02:28:25 PM
Quote from: SGOS on March 15, 2018, 11:13:58 AMNot having read the actual comics, but from parts of discussions here, I understand the Marvel often doesn't always hold true to the comics, although, I don't hear that necessarily as a complaint.  It's more like an observation most of the time.
The movies mostly don't very accurately match their comics counterparts, but they closely match their spirit.

For example, the Guardians of the Galaxy got together in very different circumstances, some characters were cut or make much smaller appearances (Mantis, Warlock, Phyla-vell, Moondragon).  And basically the whole plot was different.

However, the characters were mostly intact and they engage in the same sorts of hijinks that their comics counterparts get up to - one big dysfunctional family up against nearly impossible odds, selflessly- *looks at Rocket* -mostly selflessly saving the day.

Marvel kept the core of the story intact.  That's why Guardians and its other movies go on to success when so many other comics adaptations fail.
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Cavebear on March 15, 2018, 02:41:44 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on March 15, 2018, 02:28:25 PM
The movies mostly don't very accurately match their comics counterparts, but they closely match their spirit.

For example, the Guardians of the Galaxy got together in very different circumstances, some characters were cut or make much smaller appearances (Mantis, Warlock, Phyla-vell, Moondragon).  And basically the whole plot was different.

However, the characters were mostly intact and they engage in the same sorts of hijinks that their comics counterparts get up to - one big dysfunctional family up against nearly impossible odds, selflessly- *looks at Rocket -mostly selflessly saving the day.

You remember Mantis?!  She was one of my favorites. 

I agree that some Marvel comics movies match the spirit though not the details.  Its not like I go to comfabs to replicate to memories, but i just remember the details.  When you spend your whole 25 cent weekly allowance deciding which  2 12cent comics to buy at 12 years old, you remember stuff.

For example, I mostly accepted the original Fantastic Four movie, though they utterly botched Dr Doom's origin.  But the remake was horrid in the origins.  Spiderman did OK,  but there was no Gwen Stacey,  but they sort of got the Goblin right.  X-Men was all wrong in the origin characters.  Etc...

Marvel kept the core of the story intact.  That's why Guardians and its other movies go on to success when so many other comics adaptations fail.
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 15, 2018, 02:42:42 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on March 15, 2018, 02:02:30 PM
Oh?  Pray tell, what is inherently wrong with a writer putting the story in a comics format?
I just lol'd.
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 15, 2018, 02:43:35 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on March 15, 2018, 02:10:32 PM
Well, yeah. it WAS "puny god".    But he wasn't too kind to Thor either, LOL!
He was a near-mindless brute for most of his history.
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Cavebear on March 15, 2018, 02:53:20 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on March 15, 2018, 02:43:35 PM
He was a near-mindless brute for most of his history.

Indeed, he was, "for most of his history".  But he starred out rational. I recall the early days when he explained his actions to his sidekick (the kid he saved from the gamma ray bomb) and former girlfriend talking sensibly and just wanting to be left alone in his misery at the change.  Well, at least they kept that (alone) part.  The Hulk was symbolic of the nuclear Cold War; random destuctive anger, but not irrationality.  He changed of course, according to the times.
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Hydra009 on March 15, 2018, 02:56:02 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on March 15, 2018, 02:42:42 PM
I just lol'd.
Pretty much exactly what I expected.

But if we can overlook the "comics are icky!" bias for just a second, there's a wealth of extremely entertaining stories out there expressed with aesthetic choices that are fascinating in their own right.  It's such a shame that this stuff has to be packaged as blockbuster movies to rouse your attention.
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Cavebear on March 15, 2018, 03:02:33 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on March 15, 2018, 02:56:02 PM
Pretty much exactly what I expected.

But if we can overlook the "comics are icky!" bias for just a second, there's a wealth of extremely entertaining stories out there expressed with aesthetic choices that are fascinating in their own right.  It's such a shame that this stuff has to be packaged as blockbuster movies to rouse your attention.

Indeed, the Marvel characters are as suitable to morality plays as the Greek and Norse gods.  Full of angst, weakness and power.  I am finding the Thor series one of the best of the Marvel movie series.  Thor is impressively manipulatable literarily.  I thought it would be Spiderman, but they have done Thor better.
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 15, 2018, 03:03:45 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on March 15, 2018, 02:56:02 PM
Pretty much exactly what I expected.

But if we can overlook the "comics are icky!" bias for just a second, there's a wealth of extremely entertaining stories out there expressed with aesthetic choices that are fascinating in their own right.  It's such a shame that this stuff has to be packaged as blockbuster movies to rouse your attention.
They don't have to be packaged as anything, I can ignore them right where they lay.
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Cavebear on March 15, 2018, 03:07:21 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on March 15, 2018, 03:03:45 PM
They don't have to be packaged as anything, I can ignore them right where they lay.

You might be missing out on something.  But then there are movie genres I don't like myself.
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 15, 2018, 03:20:39 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on March 15, 2018, 03:07:21 PM
You might be missing out on something.  But then there are movie genres I don't like myself.
It's fun to push the "comic book" button on graphic novel fans.
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Cavebear on March 15, 2018, 03:23:45 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on March 15, 2018, 03:20:39 PM
It's fun to push the "comic book" button on graphic novel fans.

Well, actually, I'm not a graphics novel fan.  When they started to cost the same as books, I dropped out.
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 15, 2018, 03:50:39 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on March 15, 2018, 03:23:45 PM
Well, actually, I'm not a graphics novel fan.  When they started to cost the same as books, I dropped out.
I quit reading comic books when I found Heinlein, c. 1963.
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Cavebear on March 15, 2018, 03:58:11 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on March 15, 2018, 03:50:39 PM
I quit reading comic books when I found Heinlein, c. 1963.

Excellent choice!  I  did three.  Comics at the drugstore, used Ace Doubles at the paperback store (2 for a quarter if I promised to give them back for resale, and Heinlein, Asimov, Clarke at the library.  The librarian special-ordered them for me as I had gone though all the "young adult" fiction by 11.
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 15, 2018, 04:11:24 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on March 15, 2018, 03:58:11 PM
Excellent choice!  I  did three.  Comics at the drugstore, used Ace Doubles at the paperback store (2 for a quarter if I promised to give them back for resale, and Heinlein, Asimov, Clarke at the library.  The librarian special-ordered them for me as I had gone though all the "young adult" fiction by 11.
I went straight to the adult section when we moved to that town, didn't know there was a Juvie section until I check the card catalog for more RAH.
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Cavebear on March 15, 2018, 05:25:26 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on March 15, 2018, 04:11:24 PM
I went straight to the adult section when we moved to that town, didn't know there was a Juvie section until I check the card catalog for more RAH.

I know what you mean, but I was forced to go through the "young adult" section first.  I had to prove I'd read the Oz books, Journey to the Mushroom Planet and a few others that thankfully escape me now. 
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Unbeliever on March 15, 2018, 05:29:38 PM
I really enjoyed A Wrinkle in Time when I was much younger. I read it again not long ago, and it was still pretty good. I never did get around to the sequels, though, for some reason.
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Cavebear on March 15, 2018, 05:38:14 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on March 15, 2018, 05:29:38 PM
I really enjoyed A Wrinkle in Time when I was much younger. I read it again not long ago, and it was still pretty good. I never did get around to the sequels, though, for some reason.

ell, how many good wrinkle can there be?,  LOL!  I sufferred through the Redwall books...  After the second story, they were all repeats.  Same story, diiferent names.
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 15, 2018, 05:51:23 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on March 15, 2018, 05:25:26 PM
I know what you mean, but I was forced to go through the "young adult" section first.  I had to prove I'd read the Oz books, Journey to the Mushroom Planet and a few others that thankfully escape me now. 
I read half of "Tunnel in the Sky" sitting on a sofa in the Adult Area.
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Cavebear on March 15, 2018, 06:01:04 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on March 15, 2018, 05:51:23 PM
I read half of "Tunnel in the Sky" sitting on a sofa in the Adult Area.

The title seems familiar, but I can't recall a plot...  But speaking about young adult, how about Hardy Boys and Danny Dunn?
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 15, 2018, 07:21:13 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on March 15, 2018, 06:01:04 PM
The title seems familiar, but I can't recall a plot...  But speaking about young adult, how about Hardy Boys and Danny Dunn?
Never read them. "Tunnel in the Sky" is about a survival class, high school seniors, who get cut off and have to Lord-of-the-Flies for a while. Beware the stobor!
Title: Re: Why Marvel Will Never Win An Oscar
Post by: Cavebear on March 17, 2018, 03:28:59 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on March 15, 2018, 07:21:13 PM
Never read them. "Tunnel in the Sky" is about a survival class, high school seniors, who get cut off and have to Lord-of-the-Flies for a while. Beware the stobor!

Generational gap...