https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/02/21/587548408/florida-house-declines-debate-on-assault-rifles-calls-porn-a-health-risk?sc=tw
QuoteIn Tuesday's session, which opened with prayer for the community of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, where 17 students and staff were killed last week, Florida House lawmakers declined to open debate on a bill that would ban assault weapons and large-capacity ammunition magazines.
The motion to debate the bill, introduced by a Democrat, required a two-thirds vote and failed. Thirty-six lawmakers supported it, while 71 voted no. Its merits were not considered.
In that same session, lawmakers supported a bill that declares pornography a public health risk. That bill "recognizes public health risk created by pornography & acknowledges need for education, prevention, research, & policy change to protect citizens of this state."
You cant make this shit up. What a shithole state.
Ah Florida. actually given the shit that comes out of that state, this is a pretty tame day for them.
And no thats not making light of the school shooting recently, it was a horrible event. But yeah Florida is just naturally crazy, so even when something serious happens there, the crazy still finds it way into proceedings.
Tackling non-problems is a hallmark of people who are terrified of having to deal with major, difficult problems. It's also a hallmark of people whose sense of judgment is so poor that they can no longer accurately identify problems. Imo, a little of column A, a little of column B.
That's Republicans for ya. They're very specific in which personal freedoms they want regulated. They'll stand up for every psychopath's freedom to buy deadly firearms with ease, and carry it wherever they want without a license, but they're all for regulating your ability to jack off.
When prioritizing "public health risk"...
In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries and 33,636 deaths due to "injury by firearms". These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides, 21,175 suicides, 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent".
How many people were killed or injured by pornography?
Republicans, represented by Spongebob:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmSKCbTFcJE
Porn supporters support porn ;-)
Gun supporters support guns ;-(
But there is now a HS in Indiana that is like the Gulag, thanks to paranoid fears of HS students with guns. Americans always go full retard ... but in more than one way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcpsnrxHdCc
Of course Democrats and Republicans can be bipartisan on this "solution" ... they differ on if there are to be commissars or gruppen-fuhrers in the hallways (the days of unarmed hall monitors are so over).
porn is a killer! Death by Snoo Snoo!
(https://i.imgur.com/YwwJO.gif)
Quote from: GSOgymrat on February 22, 2018, 12:14:56 AM
How many people were killed or injured by pornography?
Once I came down with abdominal cramps.
There should really be a comma there somewhere but I'm not sure where to put it.
Quote from: Munch on February 21, 2018, 09:16:45 PM
Ah Florida. actually given the shit that comes out of that state, this is a pretty tame day for them.
Yeah - Floriduh.
And it use to be California that was considered the wing-nut state.
Quote from: Unbeliever on February 22, 2018, 01:28:07 PM
Yeah - Floriduh.
And it use to be California that was considered the wing-nut state.
I've never really put political types to it, I just put it down to Florida being close to hot swamplands and those stamp gases funneling towards them and making people crazy.
Can you get high on swamp gas, or does it just cause stupidity?
Quote from: Unbeliever on February 22, 2018, 04:00:08 PM
Can you get high on swamp gas, or does it just cause stupidity?
Dunno, but googling marsh gas.
QuoteMarsh gas, swamp gas and bog gas are common names for biogas which forms in wetlands, whose principal component is methane with hydrogen sulfide and carbon dioxide as minor compositions, produced naturally within some geographical marshes, swamps, and bogs.
Marsh gases making people more crazy then usual could have some science to it.
Sounds like it would smell like a major fart!
Then again, it could simply be down to the extreme levels of heat for long periods.
https://www.salon.com/2013/07/26/5_reasons_why_florida_is_the_weirdest_state_ever_partner/
QuoteIt’s not just the lack of four distinct seasons, but the mix of heat, humidity, hurricanes and native flora and fauna that’s not found in the rest of America. As Swamplandia! author and Miami-Dade native Karen Russell told "On The Media," it all starts with the weather. “You’re just bathed in this unchanging summer like all the time,†she said. “The shape of it [the state] too, it’s like a lot of strangeness just travels the spine of the country and seems to land there… I think there’s some physics to it.â€
Scientistsâ€"not just writersâ€"have found there are a range of mental and physical health issues that arise when people live above 80 degrees Fahrenheit. One paper, based on 13 years of Australian data, “observed a positive association between ambient temperature and hospital admissions for mental and behavioral disorders.â€
I've only been to Florida once, helping a guy move to Miami. I didn't stay any longer than I had to. I don't recall how hot it was, but, after all, I had been living in Texas, so I was used to hot and humid weather.
Focusing on trivial issues to avoid dealing with important issues is nothing new to state or Federal legislatures. Florida's obsession with pornography is a throwback to the 1940s, when it was common knowledge that children would turn into perverts from masturbating. It's not surprising that Florida voters are mostly over 95 and living in care facilities. I was raised by these people. They were retarded troglodytes even before the Alzheimer's set in.
Speaking of stupid politicians reacting to the Florida school shooting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiiuUzFQ2Bg
Trump's solution to student shooters? Moar gunz! Give the teachers guns! Wait, people don't like that? Umm... Well, I mean only the teachers who are good with weapons. I wouldn't just let ANYONE have a gun. We have to use some common sense to determine who should have access to--wait, wait. The NRA is saying I should stop talking.
Bonus hilarity: Marco Rubio appeared on CNN's "Town Hall" meeting to discuss gun violence.
"Once you look at how easy it is to get around it (state bans), you would literally have to ban every semi-automatic riffle that is sold in America."
Yes. Do that. Thank you. You finally get it, Rubio. Man, his face when the crowd starts cheering just screams, "Oh no. Oh boy. I fucked up. The NRA isn't going to pay me anymore."
Then one of the teenagers who survived the shooting had this question for Rubio: "Senator Rubio, can you tell me right now that you will not accept a single donation from the NRA in the future?"
I just love watching Republicans' skins crawl.
There are no good ideas, when it is politicians exploiting a tragedy. As Rom Emanuel said ... don't let a crisis go to waste ;-(
But...but...Chump didn't say "give guns to teachers"...he said "give guns to teachers"...oh, wait...
Archie Bunker's solution to skyjacking is to arm all the passengers. I bet Chump watched that before he came up with his idea of arming teachers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLjNJI54GMM
It's seems like I recall the NRA advocating arming teachers before, or maybe it was something similar with schools.
According to NPR, the public polls show 70% want gun regulations. Even among gun owners, it's at 58%.
Quote from: SGOS on February 23, 2018, 05:39:23 PM
According to NPR, the public polls show 70% want gun regulations. Even among gun owners, it's at 58%.
That's nice. Eighty-three percent of Americans supported net neutrality and it will officially end April 23.
Quote from: SGOS on February 23, 2018, 05:39:23 PM
According to NPR, the public polls show 70% want gun regulations. Even among gun owners, it's at 58%.
We have gun regulations. But unfortunately they don't work, because they are poorly written, or unenforced. We don't even have the school guard do his damn job, or the county sheriff do his damn job, or the FBI do their damn job. If these people can't do their job, I don't care how the regs are written or if there are any regs at all. Humans are the failure here ... at every level. Including the adults the young man was staying with.
So should children play with guns? Of course not. Maybe make it at least 21 years old (sorry maybe raise the age to vote or drive to 21 as well). And bring back public sanitariums ... I really don't care if we had violated that young man's right to be crazy and not get put in a padded cell (given what he was accused of before he went on his shooting spree). Insane people should be identified early, and locked up in sanitariums for their own good.
Quote from: GSOgymrat on February 23, 2018, 06:14:01 PM
That's nice. Eighty-three percent of Americans supported net neutrality and it will officially end April 23.
Something is wrong with the system.
Quote from: SGOS on February 23, 2018, 08:57:57 PM
Something is wrong with the system.
What's wrong is that we have assholes in the White House who take money from rich organizations such as internet service providers in exchange for ignoring their constituents.
Quote from: Blackleaf on February 23, 2018, 09:05:36 PM
What's wrong is that we have assholes in the White House who take money from rich organizations such as internet service providers...
And the NRA.
Both problems have the same source: powerful, wealthy special interests essentially buying legislators.
The public may find their legislators' actions baffling, but their legislators don't. They know exactly what they're doing and why they're doing it.
Quote from: Blackleaf on February 23, 2018, 09:05:36 PM
What's wrong is that we have assholes in the White House who take money from rich organizations such as internet service providers in exchange for ignoring their constituents.
Congress and SCOTUS are just figments of your imagination ...
Wouldn't it be great if everybody had a gun?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCtD3OJ-_Es
No. It is bad enough we allow ape people to carry a spork.
Quote from: Baruch on February 24, 2018, 07:14:02 AM
No. It is bad enough we allow ape people to carry a spork.
I much more prefer a fooon
Quote from: Hydra009 on February 23, 2018, 09:48:15 PM
Both problems have the same source: powerful, wealthy special interests essentially buying legislators.
The public may find their legislators' actions baffling, but their legislators don't. They know exactly what they're doing and why they're doing it.
Montana's Senator Daines is currently trying to turn public land all over the West to private interests, like those guys that seized the National Monument in Oregon. He refuses to hold public meetings except in two right wing enclaves, but he's been up to this for a year now. Montana has a fairly strong NRA influence of course, but traditionally the state is run by timber and mining interests, some headquartered in other countries. The timber base is now largely liquidated, so the latest threat is in privatizing land which is in theory owned by the public. Montana citizens favor their public land, while industry opposes it, and would prefer to put up "No Trespassing" signs. Developers like Trump obviously see it filled with condos and casinos.
Nobody in the US has heard of Tammany Hall or the Teapot Dome scandal. This looting of public property has been going on for over 20 years now. Of course in the West, were mere land might be the only valuable thing around, the looting will be expropriation of this land. This is what Teddy Roosevelt tried to prevent, because it was already happening in the 1890s.
The Bundy abuse of public land is small potatoes compared to Chinese property interests.
America's not in the middle of an arms race, but an arms disgrace.
Quote from: Unbeliever on February 24, 2018, 02:28:58 PM
America's not in the middle of an arms race, but an arms disgrace.
Paranoia are us. But then, Americans are more evil than other nationals. Our enemies say so.
Porn causes masterbation, masturbation causes blindness - so the Floriduh legislation is protecting the kids' eyesight.
Quote from: Unbeliever on February 24, 2018, 04:29:19 PM
Porn causes masterbation, masturbation causes blindness - so the Floriduh legislation is protecting the kids' eyesight.
If parents were smart, they would have realized where babies come from ;-)
Quote from: Shiranu on February 21, 2018, 08:45:49 PM
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/02/21/587548408/florida-house-declines-debate-on-assault-rifles-calls-porn-a-health-risk?sc=tw
You cant make this shit up. What a shithole state.
It is always easier to work voters up about sex than violence. I don't know why. Maybe because most people know something about sex but not enough people experience violence directly. And there isn't an equal NSA compared to the NRA...