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Title: Banana Republic? The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
Post by: pr126 on February 03, 2018, 10:20:26 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM_guk9LC8g
Title: Re: Banana Republic? The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
Post by: Jason Harvestdancer on February 03, 2018, 11:08:46 AM
Ah, the Nunes memo.  Both sides are currently trying to spin it in their favor.

The Republicans are saying "A-ha, this proves what we were trying to say, Obama and Hillary used the FBI against Trump."
The Democrats are saying "This proves nothing, and puts national security at risk in the process."

What it doesn't show is the solid tie to Russia that the Democrats have been conspiracy pushing for over a year.  Or a weak tie.  It does show a made up tie that the FBI agents involved lied to the court about.  The question is if those who told the lies will take a fall or rat out their superiors.  There is little benefit anymore for a Democrat to take a fall for Hillary.
Title: Re: Banana Republic? The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
Post by: Shiranu on February 03, 2018, 01:29:34 PM
That literally has nothing to do with a banana republic, so that's already knocked his credibility a bit...
Title: Re: Banana Republic? The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on February 03, 2018, 02:32:21 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on February 03, 2018, 01:29:34 PM
That literally has nothing to do with a banana republic, so that's already knocked his credibility a bit...
You didn't expect sense out of People's Republic, did you?
Title: Re: Banana Republic? The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on February 03, 2018, 03:43:58 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on February 03, 2018, 01:29:34 PM
That literally has nothing to do with a banana republic, so that's already knocked his credibility a bit...
You really thought a guy with Muslims under his bed and feminists in his closet was going to post a credible video?
Title: Re: Banana Republic? The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
Post by: Baruch on February 03, 2018, 05:36:26 PM
Huh?  We are back to the 1920s ... a chicken in every pot, a Model T in every garage ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTTrXAE7OPU
Title: Re: Banana Republic? The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
Post by: fencerider on February 04, 2018, 03:25:00 AM
My ex is from Ecuador, so watch it buddy... hehe. I’ll let pr126 take all the bananas that taste like potato; the plantanos, the burros;-)

As the story goes the OIG investigation is going to show that Nunez is a complete idiot. The report by OIG will exhonorate the FBI. (common pr126. The FBI is always expecting their work to end up in somebody’s courtroom. You dont seriously believe that they aren’t doing everything by the book do you?)
Title: Re: Banana Republic? The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
Post by: Baruch on February 04, 2018, 08:00:58 AM
Quote from: fencerider on February 04, 2018, 03:25:00 AM
My ex is from Ecuador, so watch it buddy... hehe. I’ll let pr126 take all the bananas that taste like potato; the plantanos, the burros;-)

As the story goes the OIG investigation is going to show that Nunez is a complete idiot. The report by OIG will exhonorate the FBI. (common pr126. The FBI is always expecting their work to end up in somebody’s courtroom. You dont seriously believe that they aren’t doing everything by the book do you?)

Is that you, J Edgar?  Hope that dress still fits ...
Title: Re: Banana Republic? The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
Post by: fencerider on February 04, 2018, 02:50:19 PM
naaah. The Hoover rats have given us a lot of rodent piss over the years, but in this case its clear that Trump is trying to make himself an escape route
Title: Re: Banana Republic? The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
Post by: Baruch on February 05, 2018, 01:12:36 AM
Quote from: fencerider on February 04, 2018, 02:50:19 PM
naaah. The Hoover rats have given us a lot of rodent piss over the years, but in this case its clear that Trump is trying to make himself an escape route

Is that why Obama is looking into the Bush Paraguay plan?
Title: Re: Banana Republic? The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
Post by: Cavebear on February 06, 2018, 08:24:06 PM
Quote from: pr126 on February 03, 2018, 10:20:26 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM_guk9LC8g

One can tell a lot about a person by the ridiculousness of the graphics they think prove their point. 
Title: Re: Banana Republic? The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
Post by: Baruch on February 06, 2018, 11:11:51 PM
Nixon should have defenestrated the entire FBI in 1972 ... and declared himself dictator for life.  That would spare us the spectacle of a partisan police state.
Title: Re: Banana Republic? The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
Post by: Cavebear on February 06, 2018, 11:54:15 PM
Quote from: Baruch on February 06, 2018, 11:11:51 PM
Nixon should have defenestrated the entire FBI in 1972 ... and declared himself dictator for life.  That would spare us the spectacle of a partisan police state.

Thank rationality he didn't!  We would have been Nazis after that.

Or, “Well, Doctor, what have we gotâ€"a Republic or a Monarchy?”

  “A Republic, if you can keep it.”  ` Franklin

Let's hope we can keep it after Trump...
Title: Re: Banana Republic? The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
Post by: Baruch on February 07, 2018, 07:02:53 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on February 06, 2018, 11:54:15 PM
Thank rationality he didn't!  We would have been Nazis after that.

Or, “Well, Doctor, what have we gotâ€"a Republic or a Monarchy?”

  “A Republic, if you can keep it.”  ` Franklin

Let's hope we can keep it after Trump...


It ended in 11/1963 ... but you weren't paying attention, were you?
Title: Re: Banana Republic? The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
Post by: Cavebear on February 07, 2018, 07:43:42 AM
Quote from: Baruch on February 07, 2018, 07:02:53 AM

It ended in 11/1963 ... but you weren't paying attention, were you?

DON'T jest about that.  I heard the news in horror and watched the TV until my eyes bled.  11/22/63 is burned into my being like 9/11 is. 
Title: Re: Banana Republic? The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
Post by: Baruch on February 07, 2018, 12:38:15 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on February 07, 2018, 07:43:42 AM
DON'T jest about that.  I heard the news in horror and watched the TV until my eyes bled.  11/22/63 is burned into my being like 9/11 is.

Same here.  I will never forget, nor forgive.  And we know who was behind it, and their followers are still fucking us in the ass with barbed wire.
Title: Re: Banana Republic? The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
Post by: Unbeliever on February 07, 2018, 01:17:34 PM
Quote from: Baruch on February 07, 2018, 12:38:15 PM
And we know who was behind it,
We do? Who was it then?
Title: Re: Banana Republic? The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
Post by: Baruch on February 07, 2018, 08:53:12 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on February 07, 2018, 01:17:34 PM
We do? Who was it then?

If you have to ask, then it was you, on the Grassy Knoll, with Colonel Mustard, and the candlestick!
Title: Re: Banana Republic? The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
Post by: Unbeliever on February 08, 2018, 01:57:15 PM
Good answer avoidance tactic! It always works, huh?
Title: Re: Banana Republic? The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
Post by: Baruch on February 08, 2018, 07:01:13 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on February 08, 2018, 01:57:15 PM
Good answer avoidance tactic! It always works, huh?

A real skeptic would be certain that there was no assassination, no President, no Dallas etc.
Title: Re: Banana Republic? The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
Post by: Unbeliever on February 08, 2018, 07:08:10 PM
No U.S.A., Earth, no Milky Way, no Laniakea, no universe?
Title: Re: Banana Republic? The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
Post by: Baruch on February 08, 2018, 07:16:42 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on February 08, 2018, 07:08:10 PM
No U.S.A., Earth, no Milky Way, no Laniakea, no universe?

If you aren't a skeptic, then you are a true believer in something ... and usually that means something everyone else thinks is stupid ;-)
Title: Re: Banana Republic? The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
Post by: Cavebear on February 09, 2018, 02:18:22 AM
Quote from: Unbeliever on February 07, 2018, 01:17:34 PM
We do? Who was it then?

Mostly Saudis...  19 of 21 or something like that.
Title: Re: Banana Republic? The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
Post by: Baruch on February 09, 2018, 06:57:31 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on February 09, 2018, 02:18:22 AM
Mostly Saudis...  19 of 21 or something like that.

We were talking about 1963, not 2001.  You are correct about 2001.  Unfortunately the Deep State took that as an open door for their own bad stuff.
Title: Re: Banana Republic? The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
Post by: Cavebear on February 13, 2018, 02:49:16 AM
Quote from: Baruch on February 09, 2018, 06:57:31 AM
We were talking about 1963, not 2001.  You are correct about 2001.  Unfortunately the Deep State took that as an open door for their own bad stuff.

The DEEP STATE is a fig newton in your and some other minds...  I should know, I'm part of (oops. forget that).
Title: Re: Banana Republic? The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
Post by: Baruch on February 13, 2018, 05:29:15 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on February 13, 2018, 02:49:16 AM
The DEEP STATE is a fig newton in your and some other minds...  I should know, I'm part of (oops. forget that).

I have been in government as long as you.  And yes, the alphabet agencies are the Deep State ... the permanent security bureaucracy.  The Social Security Admin isn't a part of it (in spite of the word, security).
Title: Re: Banana Republic? The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
Post by: Cavebear on February 13, 2018, 12:22:19 PM
Quote from: Baruch on February 13, 2018, 05:29:15 AM
I have been in government as long as you.  And yes, the alphabet agencies are the Deep State ... the permanent security bureaucracy.  The Social Security Admin isn't a part of it (in spite of the word, security).

Nice trick.  You say "the alphabet agencies" as if any aren't.  Therefore all Govt agencies are "Deep State" (which none really are) and all you had to suggest was that were only a "few".  Predicted-From-Birth Immortal Blessed Leader Trump would be very proud of you...
Title: Re: Banana Republic? The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
Post by: Baruch on February 13, 2018, 01:19:53 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on February 13, 2018, 12:22:19 PM
Nice trick.  You say "the alphabet agencies" as if any aren't.  Therefore all Govt agencies are "Deep State" (which none really are) and all you had to suggest was that were only a "few".  Predicted-From-Birth Immortal Blessed Leader Trump would be very proud of you...

You only read half of my short post.  Getting old? ;-)
Title: Re: Banana Republic? The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
Post by: Cavebear on February 13, 2018, 01:36:16 PM
Quote from: Baruch on February 13, 2018, 01:19:53 PM
You only read half of my short post.  Getting old? ;-)

Well, never old enough for that SSA alphabet agency apparently.  I'll never get a dime back from them.

And yes I read your whole post.  I do even when you aren't making sense, because you might at the end and I wouldn't want to miss that (because when you DO make sense, you REALLY make sense).  I just wish it was more often...