Like Trotsky is said to be jewish just to mention some. Putin himself says USSR was mostly run by jews.
This one will go far.
:popcorn:
What???? Are you 6 yrs. old?????
Quote from: Agro on August 21, 2017, 11:20:54 AM
Like Trotsky is said to be jewish just to mention some. Putin himself says USSR was mostly run by jews.
Russia/Poland/Lithuania/Ukraine have a historical love-hate relationship with Jewish people. It has a long history there, even longer than the US/Hispanic/Black love-hate relationship. You really would have to study a lot of history to understand it. I will summarize recent history for you. BTW - I identify as Jewish.
Putin is Russian, not Jewish. He thinks of Jews like a bigoted Anglo Texan thinks of Mexicans or Blacks. Not a good person to listen to on Jews or Gays.
Trotsky was a Jewish Menshevik, Lenin was a Bolshevik. Stalin took over from Lenin ... and killed most of the Jewish Bolsheviks. Lenin was part Tartar-part Russian, Stalin was full Georgian. Russians were the primary victims of the Lenin-Stalin regime. Trotsky was exiled and eventually assassinated by Stalin, for being a Jewish Menshevik. Bolsheviks were nationalists ... Mensheviks were internationalists (think R vs L communism). Stalin ruled the Soviet Union for about 25 years, and was anti-Semite. The Soviet Union continued to be anti-Semite all thru the fall of their regime, and was happy to see many Jews migrate to Israel and the US. Think of communism historically as extreme socialism.
The founders of modern Israel were mostly Jewish socialists from E Europe, prior to WW II. And a few utopians. They founded the kibbutz system (voluntary socialized agriculture). Stalin used forced socialized agriculture. Israelis dispossessed Palestinians. Stalin murdered Ukrainians (who opposed socialized agriculture). In the popular mind, in the West, from 1900 - 1970, Jewish people were associated with various forms of socialism. Both in the West, and in Israel, the socialism has been transformed into neo-Liberalism or neo-Conservativism since 1970. Jewish people have politically assimilated with their Gentile neighbors.
Part of modern anti-Semitism, is caused by xenophobic Gentiles and fear of the Rothschild family. The Rothschilds are Jewish, and the world's richest family (aside from the English royal family). They have progressively taken over banking in the last 300 years, starting with the Bank of England, and extending to the FED. They got that way by being "court Jews" .. Jews who betray Jews to Gentiles for profit. "court Jews" aren't considered good Jews. They also helped finance the founding of modern Israel. The Rothschilds cause a lot of conspiracy theories because of their power and secrecy, and are very powerful, particularly in GB and Israel. The Rothschilds may ... or may not ... be working long term for the Papacy and the European royals, particularly QEII. GB and Israel have a lot of power over the US.
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion ... is a fantasy by French anti-Semites in the 19th century, which was adopted by anti-Semites in the Russian Imperial government. It is this "original" conspiracy theory that would probably fuel Putin's views. Hitler believed in it, religiously ;-(
Oh ffs.
Quote from: sdelsolray on August 21, 2017, 11:25:42 AM
This one will go far.
Yeah, the farce is strong in this one...
well a question for the resident expert Baruch. I read an article that didnt tell the whole story. Russia had captured a group of Askenasik Jews and kept them in isolation. In 1910 this group of Jews was pissed off and tired of being ignored. So they attempted to overthrow the government of Russia. In the process the killed 60million Russians. So who won? the Jews or the Russians. and how many people were living in Russia when this happened? I didnt get the whole story.
I don't know enough about Jews or Israelites to know if they are evil. So far all I've figured out is that there are people who were born and lived as Muslims that are mixed blood Jews or Israelites. There are other people who say they are Jews that are of the religion but are not of the blood. Since I'm not a genetic scientist if a Palestinian or any one else wants to say they are A Jew I don't have any way to say that they aren't.
When I was in church they told us the Roth childs are the real devil-worshipers
Quote from: fencerider on August 21, 2017, 04:29:02 PM
well a question for the resident expert Baruch. I read an article that didnt tell the whole story. Russia had captured a group of Askenasik Jews and kept them in isolation. In 1910 this group of Jews was pissed off and tired of being ignored. So they attempted to overthrow the government of Russia. In the process the killed 60million Russians. So who won? the Jews or the Russians. and how many people were living in Russia when this happened? I didnt get the whole story.
I don't know enough about Jews or Israelites to know if they are evil. So far all I've figured out is that there are people who were born and lived as Muslims that are mixed blood Jews or Israelites. There are other people who say they are Jews that are of the religion but are not of the blood. Since I'm not a genetic scientist if a Palestinian or any one else wants to say they are A Jew I don't have any way to say that they aren't.
When I was in church they told us the Roth childs are the real devil-worshipers
Actually Jews and Gentiles are, not more or less evil relatively. Evil comes from the shared humanity (or inhumanity if you prefer). The notion that 1 million Russian Jews (mostly in Ukraine and W Russia) killed 60 million Russians is ... stupid. We Jews can put on our pants, two legs at a time, so you can identify us that way. But we can't kill 60 Philistines, with one Jew wielding the jaw bone of an ass. Some but not all of the pre-1917 revolutionaries were Jewish, but not the really important ones, except Trotsky, which is why Stalin had to get rid of him. The prior 1905 revolution was a popular urban revolt by Russians of all ethnicities. The Czars cavalry guards started it, by running down and slashing a protesting crowd in St Petersburg. Think the US National Guard shooting people (like Kent State) not like individual nuts running people down with a car. The real rot behind the last Czarina, was Rasputin, a Russian Christian super nut case. Charismatic psychopath, like Mr Bannon.
Palestinians et al have no business saying who is a Jew. Neither do Jews ;-) Most Jews today are secular, I don't consider them Jewish. I have limited Jewish genetics ... but I am more Jewish than the PM of Israel today, no matter who he thinks his mother's ancestry was. Rabbinic BS that is. The Rothschilds are just a very powerful banking family ... they have no Jewish ethics, which is the main thing for any real Jew. And Jewish ethics applies to everyone, you are not to mistreat anyone, not just not mistreat fellow Jews. The PM of Israel today, has no ethics ... he is a blood thirsty politician. Think King Herod. King of the Jews, but not Jewish, because his ancestor was Esau, not Jacob. There are people of Jewish ancestry now, of all races, even Chinese and African. Many Palestinians are of Jewish ancestry, not Arabic ancestry. Originally they were Christians, when the Muslims arrived out of the vast desert. Actual Arabs ended up as an upper class, not a lower class. And Palestinians were also Philistines and Canaanites ... before they were Jews. There were a few Jews who started out as Khazars ... a kind of Turk ... but that can be spotted genetically, and there are much fewer of those than Arabs (and other anti-Semites starting in the 1960s) like to claim. Real Jews in Israel, like Naturei Karta, actually support Hamas, not Likud.
I'm worried.
Is it a sign that you're getting old when you think:
Listen here, kiddo. Back in the day, being a troll meant something. It took creativity, damn you. It took diligence. It meant honing, honoring and respecting your craft. It required patience. An understanding of your opponent. And a willingness to go all out into the long game.
But these youngster's these days. Think they can throw together any willy, nilly provocation and leave it at a forum's doorstep like a poop in a flaming paper bag...
They ain't got dime on the trolls of old, I tells ye.
Quote from: Agro on August 21, 2017, 11:20:54 AM
Like Trotsky is said to be jewish just to mention some. Putin himself says USSR was mostly run by jews.
as is 75% of the world...so....what is the question? Would you rather the world be run by them fucking evil nasty dirty filthy smelly midwestern US Methodists?
Quote from: aitm on August 21, 2017, 10:18:38 PM
as is 75% of the world...so....what is the question? Would you rather the world be run by them fucking evil nasty dirty filthy smelly midwestern US Methodists?
Methodists? (Shudders)
so the 60 million is an exaggeration?? I guess that must be some kind of Jewish humor. David has killed his thousands and the Bolsheviks have killed their 10,000s.
are Jews evil? If I base the answer on my experience with those that I have met (Baruch, a college professor, a customer whose house I was working in at the beginning of Sabbat) I would have to say no. I think that the mentality of Jewish people in the U.S. is very different than those that live in Israel. The Jews in Israel and the Palestinians are always pokin each other in the eye. They seem to enjoy fighting with each other; like France and England used to do
Quote from: fencerider on August 22, 2017, 08:10:00 PM
so the 60 million is an exaggeration?? I guess that must be some kind of Jewish humor. David has killed his thousands and the Bolsheviks have killed their 10,000s.
are Jews evil? If I base the answer on my experience with those that I have met (Baruch, a college professor, a customer whose house I was working in at the beginning of Sabbat) I would have to say no. I think that the mentality of Jewish people in the U.S. is very different than those that live in Israel. The Jews in Israel and the Palestinians are always pokin each other in the eye. They seem to enjoy fighting with each other; like France and England used to do
Palestinians and Israelis love to hate and fight each other. This goes back over 3000 years. They aren't going to stop now, are they. And France and England may yet come to blows again ... because they had a common enemy, Germany, they stopped fighting for awhile. But England can't even pick on Ireland anymore, maybe not even Scotland. So I don't think the French have much to worry about ;-)
Boo.
Can someone describe the main attributes of an anti-Marxist? I'm asking for specifics. Do they froth at the mouth, call others names, lie, cheat, and steal? Do they have big feet?
Quote from: SGOS on August 23, 2017, 09:04:24 AM
Can someone describe the main attributes of an anti-Marxist? I'm asking for specifics. Do they froth at the mouth, call others names, lie, cheat, and steal? Do they have big feet?
Marxist share equally like the pigs in Animal Farm...
Quote from: SGOS on August 23, 2017, 09:04:24 AM
Can someone describe the main attributes of an anti-Marxist? I'm asking for specifics. Do they froth at the mouth, call others names, lie, cheat, and steal? Do they have big feet?
Mostly they wear black clothes, hoodies, and appear at Soros sponsored events.
I am wondering what these Antifa people do all day when there is no riot?
I don't think they have a steady employment.
Quote from: pr126 on August 26, 2017, 09:11:30 AM
I am wondering what these Antifa people do all day when there is no riot?
I don't think they have a steady employment.
Sometimes you ask the stupidest questions. Of course they have jobs. But they are still very, very much smaller in number than the white nationalist/nazi groups in this country. All have jobs--but what does that have to do with anything?????
Oh, BTW, I need the afternoon off to bash the Fash. Hope it is not going to inconvenience you.
Got to change into my uniform, get a baseball bat, flags, you know.
Quote from: pr126 on August 26, 2017, 10:03:51 AM
Oh, BTW, I need the afternoon off to bash the Fash. Hope it is not going to inconvenience you.
Got to change into my uniform, get a baseball bat, flags, you know.
Oh--and don't forget to wipe yourself, too--okay??
Quote from: Mike Cl on August 26, 2017, 09:56:04 AM
Sometimes you ask the stupidest questions. Of course they have jobs. But they are still very, very much smaller in number than the white nationalist/nazi groups in this country. All have jobs--but what does that have to do with anything?????
Yes, they are employed by Soros the Horrible.
I would say that Neo-Nazis, white supremacist are in fewer number than you are led to believe.
This sudden infestation of fascists, Nazis are IMO propaganda, rather than reality.
Where were they hiding all these years?
Or are you just being manipulated by the left?
Wait. You are the left. Oops.
Quote from: pr126 on August 26, 2017, 11:11:16 AM
I would say that Neo-Nazis, white supremacist are in fewer number than you are led to believe.
This sudden infestation of fascists, Nazis are IMO propaganda, rather than reality.
Where were they hiding all these years?
Or are you just being manipulated by the left?
Wait. You are the left. Oops.
White supremacists are much more numerous than you seem to believe. The Aryan Brotherhood and the Peckerheads are large in the CA prisons. And live everywhere in this state. And a bunch of them are in parts of Oregon, Wash. Idaho and Utah. Many simply do not advertise it--they keep a low profile. I've run across them in my line of work (teacher at a juvenile hall--quite a few guards were of that ilk and quite a few of the juveniles, as well). Study the actual history of the US and they show up everywhere. Quite a few christians espouse those beliefs, as well--have no use for the mud people.
I guess they are all Trump supporters too.
According to folklore, Trump is literally Hitler. Kind of a father figure. No?
Quote from: Mike Cl on August 26, 2017, 11:25:29 AM
The Aryan Brotherhood and the Peckerheads are large in the CA prisons. And live everywhere in this state. And a bunch of them are in parts of Oregon, Wash. Idaho and Utah.
And Montana, but it's probably just some overflow from Idaho.
Quote from: pr126 on August 26, 2017, 11:54:46 AM
I guess they are all Trump supporters too.
That goes without saying.
Hells bells, 60% of the US are Nazis. Who knew?
Quote from: pr126 on August 26, 2017, 11:11:16 AM
I would say that Neo-Nazis, white supremacist are in fewer number than you are led to believe.
This sudden infestation of fascists, Nazis are IMO propaganda, rather than reality.
Where were they hiding all these years?
Or are you just being manipulated by the left?
Wait. You are the left. Oops.
According to a recent poll, they are about 9%. I was surprised and dismayed they were that many.
9% of 330 Million = 29,700 000 Nazis in the USA? Wow. Hard to believe.
Who did this poll and how?
Quote from: pr126 on August 26, 2017, 01:03:32 PM
9% of 330 Million = 29,700 000 Nazis in the USA? Wow. Hard to believe.
Where do you think Trump gets his support? And another 20% other alt-right social crazies...
Quote from: pr126 on August 26, 2017, 12:39:27 PM
Hells bells, 60% of the US are Nazis. Who knew?
Actually, Trump got 46% of the popular vote. Only a small percentage of that was from Nazi's and members of the Aryan Nations. There aren't that many of them.
Quote from: pr126 on August 26, 2017, 01:03:32 PM
9% of 330 Million = 29,700 000 Nazis in the USA? Wow. Hard to believe.
Who did this poll and how?
Yes, it's hard to believe. I would have guessed more like .035%
Quote from: SGOS on August 26, 2017, 02:21:51 PM
Yes, it's hard to believe. I would have guessed more like .035%
Count all Republicans and Berniecrats ... or all White males ... it is even larger ;-)
Quote from: pr126 on August 26, 2017, 11:11:16 AM
I would say that Neo-Nazis, white supremacist are in fewer number than you are led to believe.
This sudden infestation of fascists, Nazis are IMO propaganda, rather than reality.
Where were they hiding all these years?
Or are you just being manipulated by the left?
Wait. You are the left. Oops.
When an D is in the WH ... half the US are Stalinists. When an R is in the WH ... half of the US are Nazis. The control of Congress is the wild card. In the 80s when the D controlled Congress, there were Nazis everywhere, and Satanist cults kidnapping children. Hysteria is very useful and controllable by the Elite.
Quote from: Baruch on August 26, 2017, 02:43:49 PM
When an D is in the WH ... half the US are Stalinists. When an R is in the WH ... half of the US are Nazis. The control of Congress is the wild card. In the 80s when the D controlled Congress, there were Nazis everywhere, and Satanist cults kidnapping children. Hysteria is very useful and controllable by the Elite.
No Baruch. You know those are false numbers and I respect you less for using false numbers you know better about.
If you mean to say it is the "perception" of those numbers than say that. Don't make a false argument as if it is true.
Quote from: Cavebear on August 26, 2017, 02:50:58 PM
No Baruch. You know those are false numbers and I respect you less for using false numbers you know better about.
If you mean to say it is the "perception" of those numbers than say that. Don't make a false argument as if it is true.
Perception is reality, and not my perception, I am speaking for meme infected America. Information is part of all-spectrum war ... same as oil, finance and voluptuous women. When your security apparatus is paranoid, then they have to make war on your own citizens ... just in case.
Quote from: pr126 on August 26, 2017, 11:54:46 AM
I guess they are all Trump supporters too.
According to folklore, Trump is literally Hitler. Kind of a father figure. No?
Folklore???? Of course Trump isn't Hitler--he isn't smart enough. I'm sure he is a father figure for you, tho. Trump clearly is racist.
Quote from: Mike Cl on August 26, 2017, 03:18:02 PM
Folklore???? Of course Trump isn't Hitler--he isn't smart enough. I'm sure he is a father figure for you, tho. Trump clearly is racist.
Don't EVER underestimate talented demagogues like Trump. No one considered Hitler a threat at the start.
Quote from: Cavebear on August 26, 2017, 03:36:39 PM
Don't EVER underestimate talented demagogues like Trump. No one considered Hitler a threat at the start.
I did not mean to suggest this guy isn't dangerous. He is. The term 'folklore' got to me--like Trump is simply a misunderstood wonder worker. He is dangerous the way classical fascist leaders are--it's not folklore, it's history.
Quote from: Mike Cl on August 26, 2017, 06:41:23 PM
I did not mean to suggest this guy isn't dangerous. He is. The term 'folklore' got to me--like Trump is simply a misunderstood wonder worker. He is dangerous the way classical fascist leaders are--it's not folklore, it's history.
I see what you mean by "folklore". I should have caught that myself.
We're good on that!
Quote from: Cavebear on August 26, 2017, 06:45:28 PM
I see what you mean by "folklore". I should have caught that myself.
We're good on that!
It is pronounced Volklore ... you under-menschen.
Quote from: Baruch on August 26, 2017, 06:46:55 PM
It is pronounced Volklore ... you under-menschen.
Hey, I thought I was a coelacanth these days! Vas is los under-menschen, skrithling?
Quote from: Cavebear on August 26, 2017, 06:52:13 PM
Hey, I thought I was a coelacanth these days! Vas is los under-menschen, skrithling?
Sorry, Google Translate says that is Icelandic. And it translates it to English as "skrithling". Back to your "Alþingi" you "Þræll".
Quote from: Baruch on August 26, 2017, 07:19:55 PM
Sorry, Google Translate says that is Icelandic. And it translates it to English as "skrithling". Back to your "Alþingi" you "Þræll".
So "skrithling" translates as "skrithling? Will wonders never cease. Technology is amazing.
Quote from: Cavebear on August 26, 2017, 07:22:44 PM
So "skrithling" translates as "skrithling? Will wonders never cease. Technology is amazing.
Last year I gave an example of how to break Google Translates algorithm. Back to Cathy O'Neil and the faults of Big Data. Google is a prime example. She gave a one hour lecture not his ... at Google, last year. If you understand how the system works, it is easy to break it. It only looks amazing if you are inexperienced. This dates back to the mainframe days ... when output on greenbar printer paper was gospel to executives. That means it came off the big line printer next to the mainframe. But GIGO.
I loved those old boxes of continuous feed perforated paper. Eventually they came out with something called laser edge, so you could tear off the perforations cleanly. I used to buy the big boxes at Costco for something like $10.00. Feed your printer a couple of times a year, and print to your hearts content. Let the printed sheets fall to the floor, and go eat lunch. Everything stayed in order. And I would ink my own ribbon when it started to print faint. Buy a bottle of ink for $3.00, and your cartridge/ribbon lasted for years. Today ink costs $40/month. The ink is more expensive than the printer. It's ink for goodness sake. It's an incidental like paper clips. You shouldn't have to take out a loan to buy ink.
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Quote from: SGOS on August 27, 2017, 05:16:06 AM
I loved those old boxes of continuous feed perforated paper. Eventually they came out with something called laser edge, so you could tear off the perforations cleanly. I used to buy the big boxes at Costco for something like $10.00. Feed your printer a couple of times a year, and print to your hearts content. Let the printed sheets fall to the floor, and go eat lunch. Everything stayed in order. And I would ink my own ribbon when it started to print faint. Buy a bottle of ink for $3.00, and your cartridge/ribbon lasted for years. Today ink costs $40/month. The ink is more expensive than the printer. It's ink for goodness sake. It's an incidental like paper clips. You shouldn't have to take out a loan to buy ink.
The HP monopoly on ink jet cartridges and laser printer toner ... is abusive.
It's like trolls aren't even trying any more.
I remember back when trolling used to mean something dammit!
Quote from: Baruch on August 27, 2017, 07:14:36 AM
The HP monopoly on ink jet cartridges and laser printer toner ... is abusive.
Agreed, and I am looking into the generic sources...