I didn't know where else to put this, so here it is. I thought some of you might enjoy it a bit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gtnmfb9Dnkg
Willie was such a gentleman, but Fats was kind of an asshole - he reminds me of Archie Bunker, a little. I figure those of a certain age will recognize the moderator's voice right away.
I hated Howard the first time I saw/heard him. But after awhile I grew to like him and he ended up as one of my favorite commentators.
Jackie Gleason and Paul Newman had a lot more class.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpc3TKhS6MU
Cosell is still the default voice for many sporting events inside my head. :)
(Not golf, though -- that's a blend of Jim Nantz, Gary McCord, David Feherty, Dottie Pepper, Peter Oosterhuis and Verne Lundquist)
Quote from: SGOS on May 26, 2017, 08:47:26 AM
Jackie Gleason and Paul Newman had a lot more class.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpc3TKhS6MU
I think The Baltimore Bullet was a much better pool movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLsWnH1jbj0
Quote from: trdsf on May 26, 2017, 01:16:02 PM
Cosell is still the default voice for many sporting events inside my head. :)
(Not golf, though -- that's a blend of Jim Nantz, Gary McCord, David Feherty, Dottie Pepper, Peter Oosterhuis and Verne Lundquist)
Yeah, I really enjoyed his relationship with Ali:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiZxhfsGmD4
Easily the most surprising thread I've ever read here... What brought this to mind?
Pure chance - stochasticity?
Quote from: Unbeliever on May 31, 2017, 03:55:49 PM
Pure chance - stochasticity?
Reminds me of a radio show I heard in the 60s where an announcer described boxing matches between champions who never met each other. LOL!
Quote from: Cavebear on June 07, 2017, 03:21:33 AM
Reminds me of a radio show I heard in the 60s where an announcer described boxing matches between champions who never met each other. LOL!
Reagan's first job, was a radio announcer for sports events, that had already finished earlier in the day. He used his imagination to impart excitement to the listeners.
Quote from: Cavebear on June 07, 2017, 03:21:33 AM
Reminds me of a radio show I heard in the 60s where an announcer described boxing matches between champions who never met each other. LOL!
Yeah, I remember that. And they also had baseball teams that had never met and NFL football, too, I think.
Quote from: Mike Cl on June 07, 2017, 09:29:50 AM
Yeah, I remember that. And they also had baseball teams that had never met and NFL football, too, I think.
Given that degree of psyops ... why do you believe anything you believe about what happened in the 60s? Today politics has become a sport. And what you describe is early fantasy league. Applied to politics, wouldn't this basically be totally irrational? Like arranging the ideal D candidate against the ideal R candidate, but being a positive or negative ideal, depending on your fandom?
Quote from: Baruch on June 07, 2017, 12:49:37 PM
Given that degree of psyops ... why do you believe anything you believe about what happened in the 60s? Today politics has become a sport. And what you describe is early fantasy league. Applied to politics, wouldn't this basically be totally irrational? Like arranging the ideal D candidate against the ideal R candidate, but being a positive or negative ideal, depending on your fandom?
No, what I remember are early simulations, not fantasy. As I recall, Strat-O-Matic was used for the baseball replays and I think for the NFL, too--not sure. And the results were broadcast as tho it were happening then. Fantasy sports did not come along until rotisserie baseball.
Quote from: Unbeliever on May 30, 2017, 07:11:45 PM
I think The Baltimore Bullet was a much better pool movie:
I will disagree with you on this one. I just watched the movie from your Utube link. I will say I did enjoy it, but you really can't compare it to The Hustler, which was serious drama all the way through. This had a more Abbot and Costello meet Milton Berle slapstick feel. I enjoyed the big breasted space cadet at the very beginning. There's something about a woman like that leaning over a pool table that drips with sensuality, and she milked it as much as possible for a movie made in 1980. I also enjoyed the fight scene in the room of mirrors at the fun house. It was very clever photography. And I always liked James Colburn.
Oops, sorry I missed this earlier.
I just think it's the actual pool itself that was better, not necessarily the movie. Both were pretty damned good, and there are too few pool-themed movies out there.
Quote from: Unbeliever on June 07, 2017, 04:12:50 PM
Oops, sorry I missed this earlier.
I just posted that a few minutes ago because it took me a while to get around to watching the entire movie.
Quote from: Unbeliever on June 07, 2017, 04:12:50 PM
I just think it's the actual pool itself that was better, not necessarily the movie. Both were pretty damned good, and there are too few pool-themed movies out there.
I was watching the shots, and I'd bet that most of them were cut in. Although, not all of them. Some were legitimate shots by the actors. I think they also cut in a lot of shots for Paul Newman, as "Fast" Eddie Filson, but someone told me that Jackie Gleason was an accomplished pool shooter and did most of his own shots in The Hustler. I was also amazed at Gleason as a serious actor. I saw the Hustler in the theater when it came out in the 60s, and all I ever saw Jackie Gleason do until that time was play silly characters on his TV comedy show.
I never forgot the line at the end of the movie, when Newman finally wins. He stops being an arrogant prick and says to Gleason, "You play a mean game of pool, Fat Man," and Gleason replies, "So do you Fast Eddie." That exchange gave me goose bumps. It still does.
You've convinced me that I need to see The Hustler again - it's been decades since the last time I saw it.
If you want to see really good pool, watch it on cable. The players have gotten MUCH better. LOL!