QuoteTheresa May criticises Cadbury over Easter egg hunt
Theresa May voices her disappointment that the National Trust has renamed its egg hunt
Theresa May has described the decision to drop the word Easter from the name of Cadbury and National Trust egg hunts as "absolutely ridiculous".
Her comments come after the Archbishop of York said calling the event the Cadbury Egg Hunt was like "spitting on the grave" of the firm's Christian founder, John Cadbury.
But Cadbury said Easter was referred to on much of its packaging and marketing.
The National Trust also denied it was downplaying the significance of Easter.
It said there were more than 13,000 references to Easter on its website and that it runs a programme of activities to mark the event.
Meanwhile, a descendant of John Cadbury pointed out that "as a Quaker, he didn't celebrate Easter".
His great-great-great-great-granddaughter, Esther McConnell, said: "He believed that every day is equally sacred and, back then, this was expressed by not marking festivals."
She added: "I am glad to see that Cadbury and the National Trust are welcoming those of 'all faiths and none' to their event regardless of whether they call it Easter or not."
However another distant relative, his great-great-great-grandson James Cadbury, said the National Trust "should have made sure that the word Easter was used".
Quakers are members of a faith group with Christian roots, but they do not celebrate Christian festivals such Easter and Christmas.
The British Humanist Association (BHA) described the issue as a "storm in an eggcup".
'Very important festival'
The annual egg hunts at National Trust properties around the country over the Easter weekend have been run in partnership with Cadbury for 10 years. About 300 will be taking place this year.
The event has previously been called an "Easter Egg Trail" but this year it has been promoted as "Cadbury's Great British Egg Hunt". Both organisations do refer to Easter within their promotional adverts.
Mrs May told ITV News: "I'm not just a vicar's daughter - I'm a member of the National Trust as well.
"I think the stance they have taken is absolutely ridiculous. I don't know what they are thinking about frankly. Easter's very important... It's a very important festival for the Christian faith for millions across the world."
Archbishop of York John Sentamu said Mr Cadbury, a Quaker who founded the firm in 1824, was renowned for his religious beliefs and would not condone dropping the word Easter.
He said if people were to visit Cadbury World in Birmingham "they will discover how Cadbury's Christian faith influenced his industrial output".
"To drop Easter from Cadbury's Easter Egg Hunt in my book is tantamount to spitting on the grave of Cadbury," Dr Sentamu added.
A spokesman from the Church added: "This marketing campaign not only does a disservice to the Cadburys but also highlights the folly in airbrushing faith from Easter."
Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said the issue reflected "commercialisation gone a bit too far".
Cancellation threats
The National Trust said the suggestion it was downplaying the significance of Easter "could [not] be further from the truth".
"A casual glance at our website will see dozens of references to Easter throughout," a spokesman said.
Image copyright Cadbury
Image caption The Cadbury website mentions Easter - just not in the name of the event
But some National Trust members contacted the BBC to say they were considering cancelling their memberships over the row.
The trust updated its website on Tuesday morning to add the word Easter to a page promoting the event.
In a statement, Cadbury said it had used the phrase Easter in its marketing for over 100 years and "continues to do so in our current campaigns", adding: "We invite people from all faiths and none to enjoy our seasonal treats."
Image copyright National Trust
Image caption How the National Trust website originally looked on Tuesday morning
Image copyright National Trust
Image caption The site now uses the word Easter in the headline of its page on the event
Richy Thompson, BHA's director of public affairs, said: "Easter is a fun time of year for people of all ages and beliefs. It's disappointing that the Church saw fit to whip up a storm in an eggcup over this and in a bid to maintain its relevance in an increasingly non-religious country."
Paul Parker, recording clerk for Quakers in Britain, explained why Easter - and other traditional festivals - are not celebrated by Quakers.
"Eggs - chocolate or otherwise - remind us of new life and new beginnings. Quaker faith prompts us to seek that of God in each other," he said.
"Rather than keeping traditional church festivals, Quakers say every day is a chance for new beginnings for all of us, for love and forgiveness, restorative justice and joy."
Because, you know, the war on christmas is, like, so last season. Like... OMG, get with the times man. The war on Easter is, like, totally what's happening right now? For real. I can't even, omg. Like, totally, right? Whateva.source:http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-39487307 (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-39487307)
Quotethe Archbishop of York said calling the event the Cadbury Egg Hunt was like "spitting on the grave" of the firm's Christian founder, John Cadbury.
QuoteMeanwhile, a descendant of John Cadbury pointed out that "as a Quaker, he didn't celebrate Easter".
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You know, my brother and sister in law has never brought up Jesus with my nephews, never brought up religion at all with them. But I know their school, which is meant to be secular, is giving the 'reason for the season' to their impressionable young minds.
Makes me question what's the difference between teaching kids in schools about Jesus, or Charles Manson.
Have there been many casualties among the Islanders?
That does it. As of today, I'm boycotting church.
Quote from: SGOS on April 04, 2017, 05:20:13 PM
That does it. As of today, I'm boycotting church.
and I shall join you...rat bastards all of em.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on April 04, 2017, 02:43:33 PM
Have there been many casualties among the Islanders?
Mostly Moai are left. Hardly any wood. Only a few of the thousands that used to be. Over the centuries, lots of causalities.
Fucking internet, man. Social media turns the most trivial shit that no one should have heard about into world news.
Quote from: Shiranu on April 04, 2017, 06:29:10 PM
Fucking internet, man. Social media turns the most trivial shit that no one should have heard about into world news.
You have to throw a few Christians to the Roman mob, now and again ;-)
Oh ... stop the Gentile war on Passover please. All you Christians, stop appropriating other people's religions.
The easter bunny vs Jesus.
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My votes on the bunny.
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Don't mess with the Pooka. I believe that Jimmy Stewart died for my sins ;-)
Quote from: Mike Cl on April 04, 2017, 06:13:19 PM
Mostly Moai are left. Hardly any wood. Only a few of the thousands that used to be. Over the centuries, lots of causalities.
Odd, I didn't think there would be any deaths over just a few centuries.
Quote from: Shiranu on April 04, 2017, 06:29:10 PM
Fucking internet, man. Social media turns the most trivial shit that no one should have heard about into world news.
IRL none of this shit matters. On the 'net it's a matter of life or death. We need someone to restore balance to the ('net) force.
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Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on April 05, 2017, 07:50:47 AM
Odd, I didn't think there would be any deaths over just a few centuries.
My latest understanding (could be more evidence I've not read about recently, tho) that two or three groups on the island fought over the vegetation--mainly trees --cut most or all of them down and that sealed their doom. That lead to little to nothing to eat and all but a few died out. But in the last couple of centuries I guess there has not been many casualties. But the Moai are still there.........
I would think trees would have been reintroduced to the Island by now. I never hear that they have, which is hard to believe in this century.
Quote from: SGOS on April 05, 2017, 09:48:49 AM
I would think trees would have been reintroduced to the Island by now. I never hear that they have, which is hard to believe in this century.
I know that people live there now, but about the trees I know nothing now. I'd think there would be some by now, too.
I often find myself wondering what it must be like to grow up on what is essentialy an isolated landmass, or migrating there and living there. Especially in bygone ages.
The idea is strangely appealing. I like the idea of a 'small world' and knowing that area well, rather than an unlimited places to go and seeing as much as you can, even if it's fleeting, of a wider world. I think it coincides with why I don't really feel the need to travel, ironically. I never went to Asia or Africa, or Australia or America. Heck, I've never even been to east-Europe. Seeing places for a few weeks or a few months doesn't appeal to me. It's not worth the effort, nor the bother. I like seeing the familiar places I know. It feels more... intimate... I don't know. It sounds stupid saying it. Fewer people, fewer choices, fewer options. Cutting through the overabundance of opportunity in today's world. Stupid, I know.
But I feel like I could, if offered, go and live on a place like Easter Island and be happy. Or one of the Frisian islands. Or even Iceland which is a lot bigger than Belgium, but feels more isolated. Or some of the more remote towns in Alaska or Canada or Greenland or Denmark. I wouldn't want to live off the grid, I'd need a propper home and internet and electricity and water and such.
On the other hand, I love Antwerp; a thriving city. But I couldn't imagine myself going to live in any other real city and I suspect that's only because it's where I grew up. I wouldn't want to live in Brussels, Leuven, Ghent, Charleroi, Oostende, Hamburg, Paris, Amsterdam, ... Objectively I know these cities ain't worse than Antwerp. But I lack a connection to the land. And living on the countryside in Belgium (in which everything is closeby as we are such a small country) is frankly just simply offputting to me; because it's never far from any of the bigger cities which means you are never far from 'the bigger world'.
Last Easter, I wished each of my family members, a "Happy Zombie Day!" Most didn't get it.
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on April 05, 2017, 10:16:34 AM
But I feel like I could, if offered, go and live on a place like Easter Island and be happy.
I suspect that the light house on Pitcairn Island is automated by now, but 50 years ago, you could have been a lighthouse keeper there. Once every year you could talk to the sailors on the supply ship, and the rest of the time, no one would bother you, but apparently, the place is now under development.
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While stumbling about on the Internet, I came across this news article from Pit Cairn (the only one that turned up in my brief surfing, and it's two years old), so the place has probably turned into Sodom and Gomorrah by now.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/rachelzarrell/pitcairn-island-legalizes-same-sex-marriage?utm_term=.lr2JQvzKb#.vuLNajB9v
QuoteAn Island With Only 48 Residents And No Gay Couples Just Legalized Same-Sex Marriage. Most of the inhabitants on the roughly two-mile Pitcairn Island are related. The new law was unanimously approved and actually went into effect on May 15 [2015], but the island’s deputy governor, Kevin Lynch, said they were only able to get the news out recently because their website was having technical issues.
British authorities suggested the new law after last year’s legalization of same-sex marriage by England, Wales, and Scotland.
But there haven’t been any same-sex marriages, resident Merelda Warren told The Guardian, and she knows of no same-sex couples looking to wed. She said the island’s only preacher is also a Seventh-Day Adventist, a religion that opposes gay marriage.
“It’s not Pitcairn Islanders that were pushing for it,†she said. “But it’s like anything else in the world. It’s happening everywhere else, so why not?â€
Yeah, maybe it sounded like a good idea at the time, but it's going to end up in chaos, and marriage will be dead. There will be storms with thunder and lightening and everything. People will be wandering about aimlessly trying to find food. It's not going to end well.
I vote we declare war on Cinco de Mayo next.
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on April 05, 2017, 11:58:47 AM
I vote we declare war on Cinco de Mayo next.
I don't care, but don't go messin' with Halloween.
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on April 05, 2017, 11:58:47 AM
I vote we declare war on Cinco de Mayo next.
You go ahead, I'll ketchup later.
Full analysis in Collapse ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IESYMFtLIis
Quote from: Baruch on April 05, 2017, 01:07:03 PM
Full analysis in Collapse ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IESYMFtLIis
Excellent video. I recommend it.
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on April 05, 2017, 10:16:34 AM
I often find myself wondering what it must be like to grow up on what is essentialy an isolated landmass, or migrating there and living there. Especially in bygone ages.
The idea is strangely appealing. I like the idea of a 'small world' and knowing that area well, rather than an unlimited places to go and seeing as much as you can, even if it's fleeting, of a wider world. I think it coincides with why I don't really feel the need to travel, ironically. I never went to Asia or Africa, or Australia or America. Heck, I've never even been to east-Europe. Seeing places for a few weeks or a few months doesn't appeal to me. It's not worth the effort, nor the bother. I like seeing the familiar places I know. It feels more... intimate... I don't know. It sounds stupid saying it. Fewer people, fewer choices, fewer options. Cutting through the overabundance of opportunity in today's world. Stupid, I know.
But I feel like I could, if offered, go and live on a place like Easter Island and be happy. Or one of the Frisian islands. Or even Iceland which is a lot bigger than Belgium, but feels more isolated. Or some of the more remote towns in Alaska or Canada or Greenland or Denmark. I wouldn't want to live off the grid, I'd need a propper home and internet and electricity and water and such.
On the other hand, I love Antwerp; a thriving city. But I couldn't imagine myself going to live in any other real city and I suspect that's only because it's where I grew up. I wouldn't want to live in Brussels, Leuven, Ghent, Charleroi, Oostende, Hamburg, Paris, Amsterdam, ... Objectively I know these cities ain't worse than Antwerp. But I lack a connection to the land. And living on the countryside in Belgium (in which everything is closeby as we are such a small country) is frankly just simply offputting to me; because it's never far from any of the bigger cities which means you are never far from 'the bigger world'.
You sound very "old country" and very Belgian. The Nervii of you! Or Belgae? Red ant or black ant .. choose!
Uh, uhm... Uh. Termite!
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on April 06, 2017, 01:52:05 AM
Uh, uhm... Uh. Termite!
Must be a Roman secret agent ... they called them "speculators".
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on April 06, 2017, 01:52:05 AM
Uh, uhm... Uh. Termite!
Termite should be outlawed. Nasty thing to use in war.
War on Easter, is Santa's payback, for the time the Easter Bunny hired Lobo to assassinate him...
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Santa's a Ghurka?
Quotethe Archbishop of York said calling the event the Cadbury Egg Hunt was like "spitting on the grave" of the firm's Christian founder, John Cadbury.
Yes, because Jesus hiding the eggs was such a central part of the bible story... sheesh.
Quote from: trdsf on April 07, 2017, 11:10:49 AM
Yes, because Jesus hiding the eggs was such a central part of the bible story... sheesh.
Yeah, Jesus slides down the chimney hiding hardboiled colored eggs all over the place. His reindeer stay on the roof. The Easter bunny helps him find good places for the eggs.
But oddly, when I was a kid, I colored those eggs. At 10, as the eldest child, I started to help my parents hide those eggs (as a kid, I knew the good places). Jesus and the Easter Bunny slid off my list of real things around that time.
Happy early easter everyone.
Nothing says G-d like ... chocolate ;-)
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War on Ishtar? Isn't she a war Goddess? That seems like a bad fight to pick...
Quote from: Ananta Shesha on April 14, 2017, 06:33:39 PM
War on Ishtar? Isn't she a war Goddess? That seems like a bad fight to pick...
Yes, scary. She was one of the worst movies ever made "Ishtar (film)".