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Title: Men in Black
Post by: pr126 on February 07, 2017, 07:57:16 AM
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/02/the_blood_libels_of_the_left.html
Title: Re: Men in Black
Post by: Baruch on February 07, 2017, 06:52:45 PM
Quote from: pr126 on February 07, 2017, 07:57:16 AM
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/02/the_blood_libels_of_the_left.html

But is Antifa D false news or R false news?  Maybe even bipartisan?
Title: Re: Men in Black
Post by: PickelledEggs on February 07, 2017, 07:13:07 PM
Is this site satire?
Title: Re: Men in Black
Post by: Shiranu on February 07, 2017, 08:45:37 PM
IIRC, that's the site that he linked the book burnings in Germany from, where they (the German government) were supposedly burning an entire libraries collection of books or some shit because it offended Muslim immigrants. Of course there was no other evidence, because it never happened, but that's just a tiny pesky detail.

It's not parody, it's just for people who like "alternative truths".
Title: Re: Men in Black
Post by: Baruch on February 07, 2017, 10:10:59 PM
If someone contends that Antifa doesn't exist, then they must ... be Antifa.
Title: Re: Men in Black
Post by: pr126 on February 08, 2017, 04:40:56 AM
Quote from: PickelledEggs on February 07, 2017, 07:13:07 PM
Is this site satire?

No. It is conservative, the dreaded Republicans.
You must not read it. Ever.
They voted for the Dark Lord. D.J. (Sauron) Trump.

Title: Re: Men in Black
Post by: Shiranu on February 08, 2017, 07:26:14 AM
Quote from: pr126 on February 08, 2017, 04:40:56 AM
No. It is conservative, the dreaded Republicans.
You must not read it. Ever.
They voted for the Dark Lord. D.J. (Sauron) Trump.



Lying =/= conservative. There are plenty of conservative news sites that don't have to make up bullshit to stay relevant.
Title: Re: Men in Black
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on February 08, 2017, 07:54:29 AM
Quote from: pr126 on February 07, 2017, 07:57:16 AM
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/02/the_blood_libels_of_the_left.html
You're Poe, aren't you.
Title: Re: Men in Black
Post by: pr126 on February 08, 2017, 09:33:24 AM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUykmlHungo&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Men in Black
Post by: PickelledEggs on February 08, 2017, 09:49:47 AM
Quote from: pr126 on February 08, 2017, 04:40:56 AM
No. It is conservative, the dreaded Republicans.
You must not read it. Ever.
They voted for the Dark Lord. D.J. (Sauron) Trump.
Are you satire?

Sent from your mom.

Title: Re: Men in Black
Post by: pr126 on February 08, 2017, 12:41:01 PM
Quote from: PickelledEggs on February 08, 2017, 09:49:47 AM
Are you satire?

Sent from your mom.



No, not even a satyr.
Title: Re: Men in Black
Post by: Shiranu on February 08, 2017, 01:32:23 PM
Quote from: pr126 on February 08, 2017, 09:33:24 AM



Watching that video, I disagree with her... but... I understand where she is coming from. The left has tried peaceful, and look where it got us. If they are not militant, they are ignored. If they are militant, they are discredited. It's a lose/lose game, and when you have put up with that for awhile... people are going to be angry. That has nothing to do with left or right, that is how everyone on both sides of the isle behave. The exact same can be said about the people who turned violent over Obama's election on the right. They feel they have been essentially excluded and silenced. The main difference is they at least had a voice in the government unlike the left, and they were doing it for bigoted reasons... but the core concept remains the same.

I understand the thought, but when you turn militant, even if it's against people who completely "deserve" it like Trump, Milo, that Nazi guy, whatever... you are only opening the door for your side to become no better than what you oppose.
Title: Re: Men in Black
Post by: PickelledEggs on February 08, 2017, 02:42:01 PM
Quote from: pr126 on February 08, 2017, 12:41:01 PM
No, not even a satyr.
oh ok. So what you're saying is you've just become completely unhinged from reality. Good to know
Title: Re: Men in Black
Post by: pr126 on February 09, 2017, 05:17:27 AM
Quote from: Shiranu on February 08, 2017, 01:32:23 PM
Watching that video, I disagree with her... but... I understand where she is coming from. The left has tried peaceful, and look where it got us. If they are not militant, they are ignored. If they are militant, they are discredited. It's a lose/lose game, and when you have put up with that for awhile... people are going to be angry. That has nothing to do with left or right, that is how everyone on both sides of the isle behave. The exact same can be said about the people who turned violent over Obama's election on the right. They feel they have been essentially excluded and silenced. The main difference is they at least had a voice in the government unlike the left, and they were doing it for bigoted reasons... but the core concept remains the same.

I understand the thought, but when you turn militant, even if it's against people who completely "deserve" it like Trump, Milo, that Nazi guy, whatever... you are only opening the door for your side to become no better than what you oppose.
So when will the left go one step further and start killing their opponents?

Milo the Nazi guy? Do you have evidence or just repeating the party  line?

Milo is Jewish, gay with a black boyfriend.
How does he fit your Nazi category? Are all Trump supporters Nazis?

The reason Milo is smeared, hated, silenced is because he is challenging your beliefs, and he does that with facts and reasoning.

That cannot be allowed.

Just like the church in the past, heretics have to be silenced, eliminated.
Heretics don't get burned at the stake, not yet for now, just excommunicated, to become the untouchables of society.
Like Milo for example.

Freedom of speech to those who you approve of.
For Anyone else it is denied with extreme prejudice.
It seems that the left doesn't care much about democracy.

https://youtu.be/p_KUf_giuZo






Title: Re: Men in Black
Post by: pr126 on February 09, 2017, 05:34:35 AM
Quote from: PickelledEggs on February 08, 2017, 02:42:01 PM
oh ok. So what you're saying is you've just become completely unhinged from reality. Good to know

Not necessarily. I am just not on the left.
I suppose that means I am "unhinged"?
Seeing what the left is determined to do all around the world, I think that I would count myself quite sane.

Of course you see it differently.


Title: Re: Men in Black
Post by: PickelledEggs on February 09, 2017, 12:22:50 PM
Quote from: pr126 on February 09, 2017, 05:34:35 AM
Not necessarily. I am just not on the left.
I suppose that means I am "unhinged"?
Seeing what the left is determined to do all around the world, I think that I would count myself quite sane.

Of course you see it differently.



You're unhinged because you are sharing media that is akin to a satire website, but at the same time, it doesn't aim to be so. If you are not trolling/being a poe about this, you are unhinged from reality. This has nothing to do with your links being conservative. As Shiranu pointed out, there are many conservative sites that are WAY more reputable than what you're sharing with us.
Title: Re: Men in Black
Post by: Baruch on February 09, 2017, 01:07:15 PM
Quote from: pr126 on February 09, 2017, 05:34:35 AM
Not necessarily. I am just not on the left.
I suppose that means I am "unhinged"?
Seeing what the left is determined to do all around the world, I think that I would count myself quite sane.

Of course you see it differently.

Yes, a French Revolution, Russian Revolution, Chinese Revolution (1949 version) would be good for everyone.  They have never been liberal, never been in favor of free anything, including free speech.  They didn't just vanish when the Soviet Union failed.
Title: Re: Men in Black
Post by: Shiranu on February 09, 2017, 04:22:29 PM
QuoteMilo the Nazi guy? Do you have evidence or just repeating the party  line?

I am going to cut you slack since English isn't your native language, but that's not what I said. I said Trump (comma, new person), Milo (comma, new person), that nazi guy (comma, new person), whoever. When you are talking about three or more people, you use a comma to separate their names.

Now if I said Trump and Milo, that nazi guy, then you would be correct.

QuoteFreedom of speech to those who you approve of.
For Anyone else it is denied with extreme prejudice.
It seems that the left doesn't care much about democracy.

Calling people idiots = silencing.

Righty-o, snowflake.
Title: Re: Men in Black
Post by: PickelledEggs on February 09, 2017, 04:37:09 PM
Calling people idiots =/= silencing...
Title: Re: Men in Black
Post by: Baruch on February 09, 2017, 07:26:59 PM
Quote from: PickelledEggs on February 09, 2017, 04:37:09 PM
Calling people idiots =/= silencing...

I am quite proud of my own idiocy ... shameless in fact ;-)  So no point in calling me names.
Title: Re: Men in Black
Post by: pr126 on February 10, 2017, 12:04:27 AM
Quote from: PickelledEggs on February 09, 2017, 04:37:09 PM
Calling people idiots =/= silencing...
Projecting perhaps?
Title: Re: Men in Black
Post by: pr126 on February 10, 2017, 12:28:19 AM
Shiranu wrote:

QuoteI am going to cut you slack since English isn't your native language, but that's not what I said. I said Trump (comma, new person), Milo (comma, new person), that nazi guy (comma, new person), whoever. When you are talking about three or more people, you use a comma to separate their names.

Really, I don't understand English properly? Cut me some slack?
Please, no need for condescending, Just stick to your usual ad hominems.

The left is calling virtually everyone they do not agree with as Nazis, fascist, white supremacist, especially Trump,  the new Hitler (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=trump+%3D+hitler&client=firefox-b&biw=1920&bih=1067&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRjab15ITSAhUrDsAKHccuBXMQsAQILQ)


Title: Re: Men in Black
Post by: Shiranu on February 10, 2017, 02:53:39 AM
QuoteReally, I don't understand English properly? Cut me some slack?

Given your reading comprehension, yeah... you don't understand English very well. If that is genuine or intentional, I am not entirely sold on.

QuotePlease, no need for condescending, Just stick to your usual ad hominems.

Pet. Kahhtle. Blek.
Title: Re: Men in Black
Post by: Cavebear on February 11, 2017, 07:11:43 AM
Quote from: Baruch on February 07, 2017, 06:52:45 PM
But is Antifa D false news or R false news?  Maybe even bipartisan?

I just saw evidence that computer software can now take a paragraph or 2 of spoken words and then lip-sych new words in that speaker's own voice.  Where is truth then, in the future?

I think I first read that idea in Brunner's 'The Sheep Look Up', but I can't find my copy to check.  It is a sad fact that I had to box up half my books a few years ago from lack of shelf space even when double-stacked.

Obviously, I need a bigger house...
Title: Re: Men in Black
Post by: Baruch on February 11, 2017, 09:29:18 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on February 11, 2017, 07:11:43 AM
I just saw evidence that computer software can now take a paragraph or 2 of spoken words and then lip-sych new words in that speaker's own voice.  Where is truth then, in the future?

I think I first read that idea in Brunner's 'The Sheep Look Up', but I can't find my copy to check.  It is a sad fact that I had to box up half my books a few years ago from lack of shelf space even when double-stacked.

Obviously, I need a bigger house...

You had the wrong job.  You  needed to be Library of Congress ;-)  I had software that read raw text way back in 1985.  Where have you been?
Title: Re: Men in Black
Post by: Cavebear on February 17, 2017, 08:05:42 AM
Quote from: Baruch on February 11, 2017, 09:29:18 AM
You had the wrong job.  You  needed to be Library of Congress ;-)  I had software that read raw text way back in 1985.  Where have you been?

Really.  You had software that read raw text?  In 1985.  Pray tell...  My office didn't even have computers then.  I was advanced and had a Commodore 64.  Please tell us what you had that we poor saps did not.
Title: Re: Men in Black
Post by: Baruch on February 17, 2017, 12:56:58 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on February 17, 2017, 08:05:42 AM
Really.  You had software that read raw text?  In 1985.  Pray tell...  My office didn't even have computers then.  I was advanced and had a Commodore 64.  Please tell us what you had that we poor saps did not.

Macintosh 512K ... but the Feds didn't have good computers until the 1990s even in DoD.  But read?  No, there is no AI, so no computer reads anything (in human terms).  It just applies rules to the letters/combinations to make an approximate pronunciation ... this is easier in Japanese, which is actually phonetic, compared to English.