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Title: Muslims Want Their Own State in Norway
Post by: stromboli on June 04, 2013, 08:25:19 PM
http://translate.google.no/translate?sl ... id%3D68938 (http://translate.google.no/translate?sl=no&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=no&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stavangeravisen.com%2Fart.asp%3Fid%3D68938)

QuoteA radical group of Norwegian Muslims warn of a new 22 July or 11th September on Norwegian soil. This emerged in a letter to Norwegian politicians. The letter is also sent several Norwegian newsrooms.
In a letter sent to several politicians and editors is made the threats against politicians and threatened with actions 22 July or 11th September on Norwegian soil.
- We have started the investigation of the letter, said communications Siv Alsén in PST to VG Nett.

The letter warns against the "war" may come from Afghanistan to Norway and that "there is a warning on September 11 on Norwegian soil, or greater attack than
July 22. This is for their own good and for their own interest. "
It is threatened by Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg, Foreign Minister and Defense Minister Espen Barth Eide will "be held ansavr about the war coming to Norway."
Self-Islamic state in Greenland
Letters printers want an Islamic state in Norway:
- We will not be part of the Norwegian society. And we see it not as a necessity to move out of Norway when we are born and raised here. And Allah's earth belongs to everyone. But let Greenland be ours. Block of town and let us manage it the way we want. This is to the benefit of both parties. We do not live with dirty beast that you, the letter said, according to AP

This translated, so its a little rough. Greenland is an autonomous country in the kingdom of Norway. Just give us a country, and fuck you.
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Post by: stromboli on June 04, 2013, 08:33:17 PM
Oh, and you are a bunch of dirty beasts.
Title: Re: Muslims Want Their Own State in Norway
Post by: Minimalist on June 04, 2013, 08:46:05 PM
Some time...soon...Europeans are going to wake up to what these fuckers are doing.  

They have a long history of knowing how to deal with such assholes.
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Post by: StupidWiz on June 04, 2013, 08:56:02 PM
Quote from: "stromboli"Oh, and you are a bunch of dirty beasts.
:lol:
Title: Re: Muslims Want Their Own State in Norway
Post by: stromboli on June 04, 2013, 09:05:48 PM
Come to think of it, Polar Bear is not Halal..... or walrus or seal either, I don't think, since Mohammed did not pronounce them clean.
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Post by: missingnocchi on June 04, 2013, 10:51:17 PM
Greenland is Danish... This is like asking America for the British Virgin Islands.
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Post by: stromboli on June 04, 2013, 10:53:39 PM
Quote from: "missingnocchi"Greenland is Danish... This is like asking America for the British Virgin Islands.

Oops you're right. My bad. But polar bear still isn't Halal.
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Post by: Shiranu on June 04, 2013, 11:10:44 PM
What sort of numbers are we looking at? Is it like Texas, where you have about 10 people who are like, "BARGARGH, UNITED STATES FUCK YOU! WE WANT TO BE OUR OWN COUNTRY?"?
Title: Re: Muslims Want Their Own State in Norway
Post by: pr126 on June 04, 2013, 11:18:47 PM
Modern Day Trojan Horse: Al-Hijra, the Islamic Doctrine of Immigration, Accepting Freedom or Imposing Islam? (//http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Day-Trojan-Horse-Immigration/dp/0979492955)
QuoteThe first fundamental principle for the creation of a successfully visible Islamic society is to be separate and distinct...
"Sam Solomon and E Al Maqdisi have provided the general Western public a valuable service in publishing this book." Rev Dr Patrick Sookhdeo Director of the Institute for the Study of Islam and Christianity "If only one piece of information pertaining to Muslims and Islam is ever read, it would be this book on Al-Hijra." N Keas Phd Lecturer and Communication Consultant "I hope that every person in the Western world reads it, including the sleeping political elite. This book should bring about a much needed awakening." Geert Wilders MP Chairman Party for Freedom (PVV)
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Post by: _Xenu_ on June 04, 2013, 11:21:39 PM
Quote from: "Shiranu"What sort of numbers are we looking at? Is it like Texas, where you have about 10 people who are like, "BARGARGH, UNITED STATES FUCK YOU! WE WANT TO BE OUR OWN COUNTRY?"?
There's more ten people in TX like that. Besides, they were never technically annexed.

PS
Does the new server seem faster to anyone else?
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Post by: Shiranu on June 04, 2013, 11:24:49 PM
Quote from: "_Xenu_"
Quote from: "Shiranu"What sort of numbers are we looking at? Is it like Texas, where you have about 10 people who are like, "BARGARGH, UNITED STATES FUCK YOU! WE WANT TO BE OUR OWN COUNTRY?"?
There's more ten people in TX like that. Besides, they were never technically annexed.

PS
Does the new server seem faster to anyone else?

Yeah, I know... but in comparison to the states total population, that are an over-whelming minority.

And yeah, it seems a bit faster.
Title: Re: Muslims Want Their Own State in Norway
Post by: pr126 on June 04, 2013, 11:36:55 PM
Shiranu wrote:
QuoteWhat sort of numbers are we looking at?
Irrelevant.

It is unlawful.
A precedent set.
Slippery slope.
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Post by: Shiranu on June 04, 2013, 11:40:15 PM
Quote from: "pr126"Shiranu wrote:
QuoteWhat sort of numbers are we looking at?
Irrelevant.

It is unlawful.
A precedent set.
Slippery slope.

Not irrelevant.

If we are looking at a number that could cause sizable protests, then it is something that needs to be looked into seriously.

If it is a few nutjobs sitting in their mosque, then they need to be investigated to make sure they do not pose any danger to the state or its people through acts of terrorism.

Considering they were not given what they want so far as I see, it was not unlawful, there was no precedent set and no slippy slope is on.
Title: Re: Muslims Want Their Own State in Norway
Post by: pr126 on June 04, 2013, 11:51:45 PM
Imagine if a Muslim group in a western country demanded and got an autonomous state.

Can't be done.

What about services such as water, electricity, currency, economics, taxes, education, postal system, health care, judiciary, food supplies and myriad of other things that a state must provide for it's citizens?

Who is providing those? Who is paying for those?
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Post by: the_antithesis on June 05, 2013, 12:19:32 AM
No, they don't get their own state in Norway. They had their own state and they burned it down. So now they live in Norway.
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Post by: NitzWalsh on June 05, 2013, 12:27:47 AM
Throw them out. Born in Norway or not, if they want their own country they can go to the middle east and throw something together there.
Title: Re: Muslims Want Their Own State in Norway
Post by: Valigarmander on June 05, 2013, 12:35:02 AM
Let them have Greenland. In fact, why not fly them there and drop them off? Right in the middle? And leave them there?
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Post by: _Xenu_ on June 05, 2013, 12:42:51 AM
Quote from: "Valigarmander"Let them have Greenland. In fact, why not fly them there and drop them off? Right in the middle? And leave them there?
I hear someone needs volunteers for a one way trip to Mars...
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Post by: the_antithesis on June 05, 2013, 12:47:20 AM
Let them have that island directly north of Greenland.
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Post by: Plu on June 05, 2013, 02:18:40 AM
Quote from: "Valigarmander"Let them have Greenland. In fact, why not fly them there and drop them off? Right in the middle? And leave them there?

I think this would solve the problem quite well. These guys are probably too dumb to understand why practicaly nobody lives in Greenland right now.

Hell, they probably don't even know that it isn't exactly "green".
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Post by: Fidel_Castronaut on June 05, 2013, 04:22:34 AM
Quote from: "the_antithesis"that island directly north of Greenland.
Let them have that island directly north of Greenland.

Ha.  =D>
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Post by: Jason78 on June 05, 2013, 05:09:12 AM
Quote from: "_Xenu_"I hear someone needs volunteers for a one way trip to Mars...

Have we got enough fuel to get them all there?
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Post by: Fidel_Castronaut on June 05, 2013, 05:11:21 AM
Quote from: "Jason78"
Quote from: "_Xenu_"I hear someone needs volunteers for a one way trip to Mars...

Have we got enough fuel to get them all there?

Well, getting them half way there is just as good.
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Post by: Plu on June 05, 2013, 05:15:05 AM
Quote from: "Fidel_Castronaut"
Quote from: "Jason78"
Quote from: "_Xenu_"I hear someone needs volunteers for a one way trip to Mars...

Have we got enough fuel to get them all there?

Well, getting them half way there is just as good.

I consider getting them about 1500ft off the ground to be enough. Everything beyond that is a bonus.
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Post by: Fidel_Castronaut on June 05, 2013, 05:18:18 AM
Quote from: "Plu"
Quote from: "Fidel_Castronaut"
Quote from: "Jason78"Have we got enough fuel to get them all there?

Well, getting them half way there is just as good.

I consider getting them about 1500ft off the ground to be enough. Everything beyond that is a bonus.

You make a compelling point!
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Post by: La Dolce Vita on June 05, 2013, 05:42:53 AM
The "Greenland" they are referring to is a district in Oslo that many consider "muslim" due to the high amount of muslims living there.

Also, this "news" is almost one year old. It happened last summer and barely got media coverage, as it was not taken seriously. Nothing came of it. Norwegian muslims laughed it off as a silly joke.
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Post by: Shiranu on June 05, 2013, 05:52:26 AM
Quote from: "La Dolce Vita"The "Greenland" they are referring to is a district in Oslo that many consider "muslim" due to the high amount of muslims living there.

Also, this "news" is almost one year old. It happened last summer and barely got media coverage, as it was not taken seriously. Nothing came of it. Norwegian muslims laughed it off as a silly joke.

But... but... this set a slippery slope and precedent :(.
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Post by: missingnocchi on June 05, 2013, 09:10:59 AM
Quote from: "La Dolce Vita"The "Greenland" they are referring to is a district in Oslo that many consider "muslim" due to the high amount of muslims living there.

Also, this "news" is almost one year old. It happened last summer and barely got media coverage, as it was not taken seriously. Nothing came of it. Norwegian muslims laughed it off as a silly joke.

That makes way more sense
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Post by: the_antithesis on June 05, 2013, 10:41:28 AM
Quote from: "drunkenshoe"How stupid do you get? Keep dreaming you morons.

I keep dreaming of morons.
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Post by: Minimalist on June 05, 2013, 10:35:55 PM
QuoteGreenland is Danish... This is like asking America for the British Virgin Islands.

http://youtu.be/JXdM8fkup4Q (http://youtu.be/JXdM8fkup4Q)


I can hear them now!
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Post by: Jmpty on June 06, 2013, 08:40:42 AM
Quote from: "La Dolce Vita"The "Greenland" they are referring to is a district in Oslo that many consider "muslim" due to the high amount of muslims living there.

Also, this "news" is almost one year old. It happened last summer and barely got media coverage, as it was not taken seriously. Nothing came of it. Norwegian muslims laughed it off as a silly joke.

Stop using facts! They are not fun!
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Post by: Mister Agenda on June 06, 2013, 11:55:28 AM
Quote from: "pr126"Imagine if a Muslim group in a western country demanded and got an autonomous state.

Can't be done.

What about services such as water, electricity, currency, economics, taxes, education, postal system, health care, judiciary, food supplies and myriad of other things that a state must provide for it's citizens?

Who is providing those? Who is paying for those?

Who thinks it will actually happen?
Title: Re: Muslims Want Their Own State in Norway
Post by: pr126 on June 06, 2013, 01:00:19 PM
Unofficially, they already exist. (//http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2367/european-muslim-no-go-zones)

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Post by: Colanth on June 06, 2013, 06:41:40 PM
You can't be taken advantage of unless you allow the bullies to take advantage of you - so we know why this is happening.  There are solutions, but no one seems to be a vertebrate.
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Post by: Sal1981 on June 06, 2013, 07:10:17 PM
They should be treated as criminals, threatening politicians and all.
Title: Re: Muslims Want Their Own State in Norway
Post by: Minimalist on June 06, 2013, 11:31:20 PM
Right.  Civilized men know that you don't threaten politicians....you buy them.
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Post by: Sal1981 on June 07, 2013, 03:14:07 PM
Quote from: "Minimalist"Right.  Civilized men know that you don't threaten politicians....you buy them.
shhh, don't give them any good ideas.
Title: Re: Muslims Want Their Own State in Norway
Post by: Jason Harvestdancer on June 10, 2013, 12:21:02 PM
Typical.

When Muslims are a small minority, they are all about tolerance and getting along.
When Muslims are a large minority, they are all about autonomy and independent breakaway states.
When Muslims are a majority, they are all about creating a Muslim state with Sharia law.
Title: Re: Muslims Want Their Own State in Norway
Post by: Shiranu on June 10, 2013, 12:43:54 PM
Considering they apparently weren't a majority...