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Title: Why the shape of UN building is globe?
Post by: SoldierofFortune on September 22, 2016, 03:24:22 AM
I just wonder...

https://www.google.com.tr/search?q=united+nations+building&biw=1366&bih=662&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj-xuenuKLPAhVFPRQKHcmUCkEQ_AUIBigB#imgrc=puLXCx06Xw8y3M%3A
Title: Re: Why the shape of UN building is globe?
Post by: SGOS on September 22, 2016, 07:11:34 AM
First the government needs a building to do their important government stuff.  Then they call for architects to submit bids.  Architects want to submit distinctive designs because they know that government officials are impressed.  The design can be any shape, as long as it feeds the egos of government officials.  The UN could have been a cube, but they chose the globe because it was more expensive.  Finally, it's considered clever if the design of the building symbolizes something, so then they have to come up with something clever that a globe stands for.  This is where you come in.  Come up with a cool idea for why the globe was chosen, because government officials need to have a reason other than the globe was the most expensive design and they couldn't help themselves for choosing the most expensive.
Title: Re: Why the shape of UN building is globe?
Post by: Shiranu on September 22, 2016, 07:31:12 AM
Because it looks nice.
Title: Re: Why the shape of UN building is globe?
Post by: drunkenshoe on September 22, 2016, 09:00:26 AM
Because it needs to give a visual impression of embracing the whole world. It's the globe itself.
Title: Re: Why the shape of UN building is globe?
Post by: SoldierofFortune on September 23, 2016, 06:11:04 AM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on September 22, 2016, 09:00:26 AM
Because it needs to give a visual impression of embracing the whole world. It's the globe itself.

What do you think about the visual version of neurolinguistic programming(subliminal messaging) like the picture below.

Home! belonging to humanity...who lives on it and and there is nowhere to go(escape)and no another place...''for now''. and then there mustn't be boundaries across the countries...it's coming...just we're living the historical transition, even if it's a little bloody...Planet earth...Home... It sounds good.

Can i ask a question please? Globalizm and internationalizm, What is the difference except using them as synonym? Can we prefer one to another everywhere?


https://www.google.com.tr/search?q=home+the+world&biw=1366&bih=613&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjw3r6Em6XPAhVHthQKHSrAC5QQ_AUIBygC#tbm=isch&q=planet+world+home&imgrc=rFkVw0xSxkwyhM%3A



Title: Re: Why the shape of UN building is globe?
Post by: SoldierofFortune on September 23, 2016, 06:32:40 AM
By the way. Turkey can't still a member of EU. This is an issue for years since i was a child, furthermore, since my parents were childs...alas! When i was i child, I supposed that to go to europe was a ''visa'' problem...No It's a money problem : ) )
Title: Re: Why the shape of UN building is globe?
Post by: Baruch on September 23, 2016, 12:14:03 PM
Globalism implies a hegemon.  Internationalism is more collegial between countries.  This applies to the EU ... they tried to build it as internationalism, and prevent the natural dominance of Germany (location, population, economy etc).  But since the Cyprus and Greek crises ... German hegemony has come out of the wood work.  This is the reason for Brexit ... that and the EU parliament has no teeth, and the EU commission is a French unelected bureaucratic nightmare.
Title: Re: Why the shape of UN building is globe?
Post by: Gerard on September 23, 2016, 01:40:35 PM
How is the UN building a globe anyway? Is there a globe formed structure in the General Assembly room? Looks like an oval to me.....

Gerard
Title: Re: Why the shape of UN building is globe?
Post by: SoldierofFortune on September 23, 2016, 03:02:52 PM
Quote from: Baruch on September 23, 2016, 12:14:03 PM
Globalism implies a hegemon.  Internationalism is more collegial between countries.  This applies to the EU ... they tried to build it as internationalism, and prevent the natural dominance of Germany (location, population, economy etc).  But since the Cyprus and Greek crises ... German hegemony has come out of the wood work.  This is the reason for Brexit ... that and the EU parliament has no teeth, and the EU commission is a French unelected bureaucratic nightmare.


The natural dominance of Germany?...must be a joke...after WW2...Germany was wreck and conquered. Furthermore; The German man supply decreased dramatically after WW2 that they had to import man power to work for heavy industry...Some kind of colonization...Turks, Marocans vs..to change the social structure, society engineering...Of course there are someones to manage these politics.


edit: WooW, They created a ''new'' word ''Brexit''... That is, Mankind can ''create'', too... : ) to build their world of concepts... We can only think by the way of words, not beyond them. May this be concerned with NewSpeak?
Title: Re: Why the shape of UN building is globe?
Post by: Baruch on September 23, 2016, 05:07:20 PM
Not Hitler's Germany, the Kaiser's.  Non-Germans have feared German strategic superiority since 1871.  The Kaiser's Germany was open to outsiders and allied with Turkey.  British policy is always to prevent dominance By any one party; France, Germany or Russia.
Title: Re: Why the shape of UN building is globe?
Post by: SoldierofFortune on September 23, 2016, 07:41:03 PM
Quote from: Baruch on September 23, 2016, 05:07:20 PM
Not Hitler's Germany, the Kaiser's.  Non-Germans have feared German strategic superiority since 1871.  The Kaiser's Germany was open to outsiders and allied with Turkey.  British policy is always to prevent dominance By any one party; France, Germany or Russia.

There is a theory that tells vast degree of white european died at the war WWW1 and 2...There must be a justice...Justice must be on earth.. now whose turn came? Midde-east...at least, The justice is coming on earth...maybe...will come after life...heh he.
Title: Re: Why the shape of UN building is globe?
Post by: Baruch on September 23, 2016, 10:24:23 PM
I wouldn't call war justice .. it is tragedy.  Both sides are at fault for war, the victors fool themselves that they are righteous.
Title: Re: Why the shape of UN building is globe?
Post by: drunkenshoe on September 24, 2016, 06:56:34 AM
Using a globe as a shape does not refer to 'neuro linguistic programming' or 'subliminal message'. It's put there because it is the 'shape' of our planet. The principle is the same with advertising and tv commercials; using symbols, shapes and colours. Blue invokes trust, red invokes attention; stop...etc.


'Neuro linguistic programming' and 'subliminal message' are completely different things.

- Neuro linguistic programming is a psychotheraphy method invented by an American author in 70s. It is pseudoscience, it is bullshit. Exactly like self help books, methods, self coaching, group coaching. It doesn't mean shit but there are companies and individuals making shitload of money from it ESP. because these 'services' are today bought by big companies and they are used for reducing taxes under the name of improvement of productivity and relations in work place. OR lerning language and new skills.

It's pretty much the same thing with 'angel caoching' and 'quantum healing'. It is bullshit invented to gauge money from people. It's bollocks.


- Subliminal messaging is a phenomenon observed under MRI studies which involves the lightening up certain areas in the brain as a response to certain images by the recipient without being unaware. While it is not studied enough, the current understanding is that for a 'subliminal message' to be successful the individual is required to have the tendency to perform an act or be in a ready situation to response to the message before being subjected to it.

Frankly, if you are not familiar to the context message delivers, you don't recieve it.

Which infact works on the general principle of the standard idea of selective perception. If the person does not have any memory, idea, desire, trauma...any information positive or negative already concieved before the message, message blows off and NO it doesn't get 'planted' in his/her brain.

While the conspiracy theories and fear about subliminal messages being sent to mass of people is completely bullshit, yes watching tv, following mainstream media and mass communication, living in social media will make anyone stupid, because being subsrcibed to the series of pespectives produced by 9 corporates directing the considerable amount of the world's wealth is like living in a 6000 year old earth with dinosaurus. You are swimming in a toxic, infected pool and no fresh water is pouring in.

But no we are not in danger of either NLP, nor subliminal messages flowing secretly around posessing our brains and make us do shit. Humans do not need any special effort to be manipulated.


Title: Re: Why the shape of UN building is globe?
Post by: drunkenshoe on September 24, 2016, 06:57:57 AM
Quote from: SoldierofFortune on September 23, 2016, 06:32:40 AM
By the way. Turkey can't still a member of EU. This is an issue for years since i was a child, furthermore, since my parents were childs...alas! When i was i child, I supposed that to go to europe was a ''visa'' problem...No It's a money problem : ) )

Turkey's EU membership is a two sided sham deal operation. But I don't get its relevance to the topic.
Title: Re: Why the shape of UN building is globe?
Post by: SoldierofFortune on September 24, 2016, 07:36:53 AM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on September 24, 2016, 06:56:34 AM
Using a globe as a shape does not refer to 'neuro linguistic programming' or 'subliminal message'. It's put there because it is the 'shape' of our planet. The principle is the same with advertising and tv commercials; using symbols, shapes and colours. Blue invokes trust, red invokes attention; stop...etc.


'Neuro linguistic programming' and 'subliminal message' are completely different things.

- Neuro linguistic programming is a psychotheraphy method invented by an American author in 70s. It is pseudoscience, it is bullshit. Exactly like self help books, methods, self coaching, group coaching. It doesn't mean shit but there are companies and individuals making shitload of money from it ESP. because these 'services' are today bought by big companies and they are used for reducing taxes under the name of improvement of productivity and relations in work place. OR lerning language and new skills.

It's pretty much the same thing with 'angel caoching' and 'quantum healing'. It is bullshit invented to gauge money from people. It's bollocks.


- Subliminal messaging is a phenomenon observed under MRI studies which involves the lightening up certain areas in the brain as a response to certain images by the recipient without being unaware. While it is not studied enough, the current understanding is that for a 'subliminal message' to be successful the individual is required to have the tendency to perform an act or be in a ready situation to response to the message before being subjected to it.

Frankly, if you are not familiar to the context message delivers, you don't recieve it.

Which infact works on the general principle of the standard idea of selective perception. If the person does not have any memory, idea, desire, trauma...any information positive or negative already concieved before the message, message blows off and NO it doesn't get 'planted' in his/her brain.

While the conspiracy theories and fear about subliminal messages being sent to mass of people is completely bullshit, yes watching tv, following mainstream media and mass communication, living in social media will make anyone stupid, because being subsrcibed to the series of pespectives produced by 9 corporates directing the considerable amount of the world's wealth is like living in a 6000 year old earth with dinosaurus. You are swimming in a toxic, infected pool and no fresh water is pouring in.

But no we are not in danger of either NLP, nor subliminal messages flowing secretly around posessing our brains and make us do shit. Humans do not need any special effort to be manipulated.


What? There are MILLIONS of pages of academic work on academic catalogs about subliminal messaging...Yeah conspiracy hahaha
Title: Re: Why the shape of UN building is globe?
Post by: Baruch on September 24, 2016, 09:18:50 AM
Shoe ... if you want to say that all psychological theory is pseudo-science ... then yes, it is all about neuro-chemicals, and our need to legally or illegally manipulate them.  There are no people, if you are a materialist, just masses of carbon compounds behaving inexplicably ;-)
Title: Re: Why the shape of UN building is globe?
Post by: aitm on September 24, 2016, 09:28:26 AM
Quote from: SoldierofFortune on September 22, 2016, 03:24:22 AM
I just wonder...

IF one is to post that many pictures the least you could do is to follow up with a like wall of naked women.









wat?
Title: Re: Why the shape of UN building is globe?
Post by: drunkenshoe on September 24, 2016, 09:38:56 AM
Quote from: SoldierofFortune on September 24, 2016, 07:36:53 AM

What? There are MILLIONS of pages of academic work on academic catalogs about subliminal messaging...Yeah conspiracy hahaha

LOL 'Academic work' is not a magic word that turns something in to 'it exists or it does not eixst' orwhat you want to hear. It just means somethig has been studied. This is also what I wrote in my post.

May be I didn't make it clear, the idea that 'subliminal message' makes people do things that they wouldn't do without the 'message'. That is the bullshit point.

Title: Re: Why the shape of UN building is globe?
Post by: Baruch on September 24, 2016, 09:48:26 AM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on September 24, 2016, 09:38:56 AM
LOL 'Academic work' is not a magic word that turns something in to 'it exists or it does not eixst' orwhat you want to hear. It just means somethig has been studied. This is also what I wrote in my post.

May be I didn't make it clear, the idea that 'subliminal message' makes people do things that they wouldn't do without the 'message'. That is the bullshit point.

Same with hypnosis, you can't do what you wouldn't do anyway.  But what is that?  All human beings are potential murderers.  And Germany, the US, N Korea all did extensive work on Manchurian candidates.  Which the US claims, was ended because it didn't work.  But does "Didn't Work" just mean didn't work reliably?  Which is to say, it did work a minority of times?  There is evidence for Manchurian candidates since the 1930s.
Title: Re: Why the shape of UN building is globe?
Post by: SoldierofFortune on September 24, 2016, 10:27:00 AM
Believe or not... You and me, or anyone in the world can be a suicide bomber or Mancurian in 6 months of camping(or less) by using the methods of our father of Baphomet : )

These methots include ''neuro-chemicals'' absolutly and besides that, brainwashing is pretty useful...Say this subliminal or whatever...

I don't know these methods. But I know there are...

ps. brain is a material...but organic; what about electronics?

Title: Re: Why the shape of UN building is globe?
Post by: drunkenshoe on September 24, 2016, 04:54:24 PM
Quote from: SoldierofFortune on September 24, 2016, 10:27:00 AM
Believe or not... You and me, or anyone in the world can be a suicide bomber or Mancurian in 6 months of camping(or less) by using the methods of our father of Baphomet : )

These methots include ''neuro-chemicals'' absolutly and besides that, brainwashing is pretty useful...Say this subliminal or whatever...

I don't know these methods. But I know there are...

ps. brain is a material...but organic; what about electronics?


LOL
Title: Re: Why the shape of UN building is globe?
Post by: Baruch on September 24, 2016, 08:16:23 PM
Quote from: SoldierofFortune on September 24, 2016, 10:27:00 AM
Believe or not... You and me, or anyone in the world can be a suicide bomber or Mancurian in 6 months of camping(or less) by using the methods of our father of Baphomet : )

These methots include ''neuro-chemicals'' absolutly and besides that, brainwashing is pretty useful...Say this subliminal or whatever...

I don't know these methods. But I know there are...

ps. brain is a material...but organic; what about electronics?

They don't have to have Stepford Wife technology to control people ... you could remotely stimulate a pain receptor, whenever someone thought or did something they shouldn't ... like smoking.  Similarly the pleasure centers.  If you didn't tell them you were doing it, they could be led to believe all sorts of things as being their own idea ... by association with pleasure/pain, not because of a goon behind a bright light.  But that is known to work too ... at least to extract false confessions from the innocent.
Title: Re: Why the shape of UN building is globe?
Post by: drunkenshoe on September 25, 2016, 06:26:21 AM
Quote from: Baruch on September 24, 2016, 08:16:23 PM
They don't have to have Stepford Wife technology to control people ... you could remotely stimulate a pain receptor, whenever someone thought or did something they shouldn't ... like smoking.  Similarly the pleasure centers.  If you didn't tell them you were doing it, they could be led to believe all sorts of things as being their own idea ... by association with pleasure/pain, not because of a goon behind a bright light.  But that is known to work too ... at least to extract false confessions from the innocent.

Actually what he is talking about more ridiculous then Stepford Wife technology. He is talking about complete control over people by subjecting them to hidden messages. :lol:

NOT brain washing by starving, beating up and other kind of physical torture that would break any organism at some point. Or intervening human body and altering it fundemantelly.

It's a perfect Micheal Shermer moment. Error Management Theory. It's rises from a defense mechanism. Literal defense. Belief: Religion: In the big picture why humans have become the most successful species and conquered planet.

"ME, ME, ME, I, I, I. Everything is after me." :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmXlEvum6PQ





Title: Re: Why the shape of UN building is globe?
Post by: Cavebear on October 11, 2016, 11:46:54 AM
When did the UN building become a globe?  I admit I haven't visited NYC in a while, but still...
Title: Re: Why the shape of UN building is globe?
Post by: Sal1981 on October 11, 2016, 12:07:15 PM
(http://puu.sh/rFo4X.png)
Title: Re: Why the shape of UN building is globe?
Post by: Cavebear on October 11, 2016, 03:50:29 PM
Is this comedic?