Who knows considering the bullshit of both parties that's been going on. But even if that's all it is, this episode is kind of spooky, opening the possibility of Trump running unopposed. Maybe?
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/11/politics/hillary-clinton-health/
Quote
(CNN) â€" Hillary Clinton has pneumonia, her doctor said Sunday, hours after the Democratic nominee stumbled and exited a 9/11 commemoration ceremony early.
Clinton was diagnosed on Friday with pneumonia, and "was put on antibiotics, and advised to rest and modify her schedule," Dr. Lisa Bardack said in a statement.
"While at this morning's event, she became overheated and dehydrated. I have just examined her and she is now re-hydrated and recovering nicely," said Bardack, chairman of internal medicine at the Mount Kisco Medical Group.
Bardack attended to Clinton at her Chappaqua home Sunday.
Clinton's health came into sharp focus Sunday as she appeared wobbly and stumbled as Secret Service agents helped her into a van to exit a memorial service marking the 15th anniversary of the September 11, 2001, attacks. The Democratic nominee traveled to her daughter's nearby apartment and the campaign initially said she felt "overheated."
It's obvious they didn't want to mention pneumonia on Friday. After all, what candidate needs that, especially when the opposition is already focusing on her health? But now copping to pneumonia is better than something else, I suppose.
I don't like the idea of any candidate running unopposed. Sure, there are still other alternatives, but most voters couldn't name the other candidates that are officially in the race.
It is a little scary in that it plays right into Republicans hands. They have been trying to suggest that Hillary will be dead a month after the elections anyway. And people eat this shit up these days. It seems nearly everyone is more interested in a sensational lie than the mundane truth. And today's right wing would love nothing more than to take us back to the dark ages where blacks are in their place, you can lynch gays and women are fragile flowers who don't need shoes when that money could be better spent on pans.
Ironically, one of the anti-Bernie arguments coming from the Hillary crowd back before the convention was, "He's too old and could die in office."
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on September 12, 2016, 04:24:42 PM
Ironically, one of the anti-Bernie arguments coming from the Hillary crowd back before the convention was, "He's too old and could die in office."
Which was bullshit because they're all very old - 68, 70, and 75. It was pretty bizarre experience to watch the "he's an old fogie" argument against Bernie from Clinton supporters.
You better not DIE on us, you lying kiniving bitch! You still have to save us from T-Rump! You're our only hope now! FUCK!
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on September 12, 2016, 04:24:42 PM
Ironically, one of the anti-Bernie arguments coming from the Hillary crowd back before the convention was, "He's too old and could die in office."
No, even more ironically is that Republicans are so concerned with Hillary's
physical state of health, but when it comes to Trump's
mental health, nothing but crickets.
Sorry, but if I have to take a personality assessment to prove I'm not a psychopath just to make $8 an hour at Walmart, is it so much to ask that we do this for potential presidents?
I'm not talking a military level of readiness or anything (I don't care if a candidate has diabetes, scoots around in a wheelchair or is blind, for example), but there should be some
minimum standard for both body and mind.
The VP choices were critical for both. Either could be assisted into the beyond ... with the VPs as the actual black horse candidates, controlled by strings from behind the curtain.
Quote from: TomFoolery on September 12, 2016, 06:57:43 PM
No, even more ironically is that Republicans are so concerned with Hillary's physical state of health, but when it comes to Trump's mental health, nothing but crickets.
Sorry, but if I have to take a personality assessment to prove I'm not a psychopath just to make $8 an hour at Walmart, is it so much to ask that we do this for potential presidents?
I'm not talking a military level of readiness or anything (I don't care if a candidate has diabetes, scoots around in a wheelchair or is blind, for example), but there should be some minimum standard for both body and mind.
Tests for retail workers is to keep out shoplifting employees. The last Clinton admin was big on shoplifting on the way out of office ;-)
Quote from: TomFoolery on September 12, 2016, 06:57:43 PMSorry, but if I have to take a personality assessment to prove I'm not a psychopath just to make $8 an hour at Walmart
Wait, is that a thing? I work a union job at $MildlyEvilRetail, and the most I ever had to do was a cheek swab.
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on September 12, 2016, 07:01:16 PM
Wait, is that a thing? I work a union job at $MildlyEvilRetail, and the most I ever had to do was a cheek swab.
Must be a product of a right-to-work state, but I remember taking a personality assessment for Target back in the day that bordered on hilarious. I shit you not, questions were basically like this:
When someone I work with treats me unfairly, I:
1. Talk to them about it calmly and rationally
2. Gossip about them to other employees
3. Let it go
4. Assault them
Quote from: TomFoolery on September 12, 2016, 07:03:50 PM
Must be a product of a right-to-work state, but I remember taking a personality assessment for Target back in the day that bordered on hilarious. I shit you not, questions were basically like this:
When someone I work with treats me unfairly, I:
1. Talk to them about it calmly and rationally
2. Gossip about them to other employees
3. Let it go
4. Assault them
Correct answer in some parts ... get out your open carry weapon and blow them away ;-0
This just in: Clinton farts. News at 11.
Quote from: SGOS on September 11, 2016, 06:17:49 PM
But even if that's all it is, this episode is kind of spooky, opening the possibility of Trump running unopposed.
I also should also say that Trump won't run unopposed. There's just no way.
Both parties reserve the right to replace candidates who either die or drop out, but unfortunately, the DNC doesn't have any hard and fast rules for what to do in their by-laws, so they'd have to make it up as they go along. the GOP would either hold a new convention or poll the GOP state reps to find a replacement. I imagine the DNC would do the same.
Quote from: TomFoolery on September 12, 2016, 07:03:50 PM
Must be a product of a right-to-work state, but I remember taking a personality assessment for Target back in the day that bordered on hilarious. I shit you not, questions were basically like this:
When someone I work with treats me unfairly, I:
1. Talk to them about it calmly and rationally
2. Gossip about them to other employees
3. Let it go
4. Assault them
In college, I had to take the MMPI (Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory) as a graduation requirement. This was in the mid 60s and back then, the MMPI was considered unbeatable. It was claimed that even expert psychologists could not fake the results. I believe it is still held in high regard.
The intention of some questions were obvious like your example above. Some questions didn't seem to be attempting to access any particular personality trait. A couple of questions were indecipherable (I assumed they were attempting to determine if you were predisposed to answer yes or no to a completely ambiguous problem). Supposedly questions were cross referenced and evaluated in light of answers to other questions, so that a particular answer might mean one thing in one situation, but cross referenced with some other question in a different section of the test the same answer might mean something entirely different that in the first situation. There were questions to see if your were lying about other questions, but they were disguised as regular questions.
But what I remember most was that some questions were absurdly funny. I took the test with about 40 or 50 other students, and periodically around the room someone would burst out in uncontrollable laughter, and I would think, "Oh that guy must have just gotten to question number 319. Examples as best as I can remember were:
(Y or N)
Someone is trying to control my mind.
Sometimes my stools are dark brown.
Canaries are better than parakeets.
It is sometimes too late to pursue something that could have been thought about earlier had the idea come at a later time. (This is my feeble attempt to re-create an indecipherable question. I think my attempt might make more sense than the original, which I believe was worded to make no sense at all). I just shrugged my shoulders after the third reading, and answered "Yes" LOL.
Some questions might be asked 4 times times throughout the test. I think the test took two or three hours to complete. I remember talking to a counselor after the test results came back. He told me the test indicated I had "low ego strength", which I took to be a bad thing. I laughed and said, "Hell, I could have told you that in 5 seconds, and this test took three hours to figure that out?"
I don't want Hillary to die, but Kaine seems like a great guy. I just don't know if he has the power to enact as many positive changes as Hillary could.
Quote from: Mermaid on September 12, 2016, 07:16:20 PM
This just in: Clinton farts. News at 11.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e3ARRQpyzA
Fired for talking about Hillary's health. The corporate media tried to cover up Hillary collapsing on 9/11, but when they couldn't stop the video from getting out, they finally had to talk about her health. MSNBC expressed anger with Hillary because MSNBC has been defending her by calling people conspiracy theorists for bringing up her health issues. Now they know that they look like a bunch of lying tools because of Hillary covering things up and not telling people the truth about her health.
I remember you calling yourself a Hillary Clinton "fan" Fan is the right word. You are quite fanatical. Deny. Deny. Deny.
LOL that video. I could tell just from the sound of the host's voice that he was a conservative, and a perusal of the comments of the video confirm it. So they lined up a doctor willing to compromise his moral and professional integrity so they could start a fact free rumor about Hillary's health. Conservatives must be desperate. Or maybe they will simply stop at nothing.
Shes an old woman. Pneumonia is dangerous to anyone, but all the more so dangerous to someone her age. Pneumonia kills the elderly frequently. I haven't seen or heard anything to contradict the diagnosis of pneumonia. This is a miserable attempt to bypass the will of the people and eliminate a candidate for reasons that have nothing to do with the issues. Republicans do something like this every election and it ensures that the Republican party continue its slow march into the dustbin of history as smart people continue to refuse to join.
Articles are starting to float around to the effect of the DNC considering the possibility of replacing Clinton.
Titty sprinkles.
The conspiracy theorists here are the ones who claim nothing has been up with her health. They are just like Holocaust deniers. We may not know exactly what it is, but all the seizures, coughing fits, collapses, freezing up in the middle of her speeches, her riding around in a black ambulance, etc shows that something is up. Obviously speculation is going to run wild and people are going to be making guesses, but that's entirely Clinton's fault for refusing to be transparent. She wasn't going to let anyone know she had pneumonia if she never collapsed on camera. First her and the media tried to cover it up as her "tripping" because she was too hot. She didn't admit to the pneumonia until she had no choice, so this proves that if something big were wrong with her health, you wouldn't hear it from her or her cheerleaders in the media. Given that reality where she refuses to be transparent and the corporate media refuses to call her out for it, people are going to speculate.
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on September 13, 2016, 11:47:45 AMArticles are starting to float around to the effect of the DNC considering the possibility of replacing Clinton.
(http://i.imgur.com/mPZOtds.jpg)
Probably not. But one can hope.
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on September 13, 2016, 11:47:45 AM
Articles are starting to float around to the effect of the DNC considering the possibility of replacing Clinton.
Titty sprinkles.
There's even wilder stories about Trump being a homo sapien.
It is typical in personality testing, to ask the same question in more than one way, several times. When rushed for time to complete, this is supposed to catch the average liar ... because they read what they want to see, not what it says. That plugs into their unconscious mind. I took one of these ... via phone once ... had a lot of questions, and had to push 1 or 2 (touch tone phone) to answer.
Maybe they were using neuro-linguistic programming to make me into a sleeper agent. Hold on a minute, while I answer this phone call ...
Quote from: Nonsensei on September 13, 2016, 11:09:15 AM
LOL that video. I could tell just from the sound of the host's voice that he was a conservative, and a perusal of the comments of the video confirm it. So they lined up a doctor willing to compromise his moral and professional integrity so they could start a fact free rumor about Hillary's health. Conservatives must be desperate. Or maybe they will simply stop at nothing.
Actually, he was fired by CNN because he refused to compromise his moral and professional integrity by taking back his statement on her health. He risked his comfy CNN job and was fired for it. That's a man of integrity.
Fact free rumor? Well, the ones with the facts are Hillary and her doctor, and they're not spilling the beans, so all that's left is for people to speculate. In other words, what you're saying is that people should just shut their mouths and stop asking questions, because if Hillary says she's fine, then she's fine. End of discussion, right?
Or do you really just mean that people should just shut their mouths if what they're saying is going to help Trump, whether there's any accuracy to it or not? Is this another case like where we had people pissed off that someone posted a thread talking about the Wikileaks revelations about how Hillary cheated in the Primaries against Bernie Sanders? If you don't care about Hillary's health issues then just say that. I never mentioned her health on here until yesterday and that was only to put down CNN, so I'm with you and I don't care about her health either. Many do care though, so it's absolutely fair to ask her questions about her health. Stop making liberals look bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM9vkvq_oN8
It's all a vast right wing conspiracy! A sexist one at that. At least Hillary still has The Young Turks shilling for her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r9RP--IGEY
Quote from: FaithIsFilth on September 14, 2016, 02:24:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM9vkvq_oN8
While this guy in the video is annoying as Hell, he does make some points to consider. First of all, it's obvious that Hillary is sick. True, it's just pneumonia. Well, maybe it's just pneumonia. It could be something else. With politicians, Hillary not excluded, it's impossible to know really. But something is causing Hillary to approach passing out and falling down. Not to worry. It's pneumonia. But now it's coming to light, or back into the light, that she suffers from or has recently suffered from deep vein embolisms. This gets mentioned, but never seriously scrutinized, as if it's just those conspiracy theorists making shit up. I assume the reports of embolism are real, because they are mentioned, but oddly ignored. Embolisms are serious.
Near passing out and falling down are serious, yet the media, while it's milking the story for all the market share it can, seems to leave the impression that it's probably nothing to worry about. But I still worry. I don't want my president to be falling down. This kind of loss of balance and falling down is much more alarming the President Ford tripping and falling down. I associate it with life threatening conditions.
I hope she's going to be OK. God help us; I hope she's going to be OK. But right now, she is not OK. I'm cynical enough to believe that if she is seriously sick (Well, she is seriously sick. Let's not fudge. She's collapsing in public for Christ sake) the powers in her campaign would do everything in their power to keep a serious condition secret. It may not be a conspiracy if that word doesn't suit, but it is typical political strategy.
I can't help but remember the movie Dave, where the president has a stroke and is hidden away while in a terminal coma. They hire a double to fill in so as not to alarm the public, and the double, seriously concerned, asks, "Will he be OK?" And the president's top aide says, "Oh, yeah, Dave. Don't worry. We just need you to fill in for a couple of days until we regroup. We are telling the public the president will be back on his feet in a couple of days, and this episode was just a 'mild circulatory problem of the head.'"
Quote from: SGOS on September 14, 2016, 07:37:42 AMNear passing out and falling down are serious, yet the media, while it's milking the story for all the market share it can, seems to leave the impression that it's probably nothing to worry about. But I still worry. I don't want my president to be falling down. This kind of loss of balance and falling down is much more alarming the President Ford tripping and falling down. I associate it with life threatening conditions.
My worry is that she's incapacitated shortly before election day. I assume Kaine would take the reigns - that's what veeps are for - but as Dems struggle to deal with the situation, the ensuing chaos could tip the vote in Trump's favor. Then we're stuck with El Presidente for 4 years.
Quote from: Hydra009 on September 14, 2016, 08:41:46 AM
My worry is that she's incapacitated shortly before election day. I assume Kaine would take the reigns - that's what veeps are for - but as Dems struggle to deal with the situation, the ensuing chaos could tip the vote in Trump's favor. Then we're stuck with El Presidente for 4 years.
Yeah, I've wondered what provisions there are for such a thing. Are their election rules that address this? Could the vice presidential candidate just replace the Presidential candidate at the last minute? He has never been nominated or formally petitioned to be on the ballot (as president). I could see some Supreme Court questions reminiscent of Al Gore and George Bush. The chaos could not be helpful. And the Republicans would surely protest if Kaine actually won the election.
First things first: Clinton and Trump would have to personally choose to relinquish the nomination to lose it. [. . .]The members of the parties’ national committees would get together to vote for whomever they want. The candidate with the majority of votes from the national party committees â€" which consist of 350 people for the DNC and 150 people for the RNC â€" would then become the presidential nominee.
The national committees could pick pretty much anyone â€" for instance, Tim Kaine or Joe Biden on the Democratic side, or Mitt Romney or Ben Carson for the Republicans. And they could do so at any point up to and including Election Day, even after absentee and early voting has started. (http://www.vox.com/2016/9/12/12887632/if-presidential-nominee-drops-out)
Quote from: Poison Tree on September 14, 2016, 10:41:27 AM
First things first: Clinton and Trump would have to personally choose to relinquish the nomination to lose it. [. . .]The members of the parties’ national committees would get together to vote for whomever they want. The candidate with the majority of votes from the national party committees â€" which consist of 350 people for the DNC and 150 people for the RNC â€" would then become the presidential nominee.
The national committees could pick pretty much anyone â€" for instance, Tim Kaine or Joe Biden on the Democratic side, or Mitt Romney or Ben Carson for the Republicans. And they could do so at any point up to and including Election Day, even after absentee and early voting has started. (http://www.vox.com/2016/9/12/12887632/if-presidential-nominee-drops-out)
Thanks. Just what I was wondering about.
Quote from: FaithIsFilth on September 14, 2016, 02:24:51 AM
Actually, he was fired by CNN because he refused to compromise his moral and professional integrity by taking back his statement on her health. He risked his comfy CNN job and was fired for it. That's a man of integrity.
Hes only a man of integrity if hes being forthright and genuine. If not, hes just a piece of crap who got fired.
QuoteFact free rumor? Well, the ones with the facts are Hillary and her doctor, and they're not spilling the beans, so all that's left is for people to speculate. In other words, what you're saying is that people should just shut their mouths and stop asking questions, because if Hillary says she's fine, then she's fine. End of discussion, right?
Yes. That is PRECISELY what I'm saying. People absolutely should shut their fucking mouths unless they have actual proof to contradict her statements about her health. It 100% is the end of the discussion, unless you're some pathetic right wing scumbag looking to cash in on what is absolutely a fact free rumor.
QuoteOr do you really just mean that people should just shut their mouths if what they're saying is going to help Trump, whether there's any accuracy to it or not? Is this another case like where we had people pissed off that someone posted a thread talking about the Wikileaks revelations about how Hillary cheated in the Primaries against Bernie Sanders? If you don't care about Hillary's health issues then just say that. I never mentioned her health on here until yesterday and that was only to put down CNN, so I'm with you and I don't care about her health either. Many do care though, so it's absolutely fair to ask her questions about her health. Stop making liberals look bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM9vkvq_oN8
It's all a vast right wing conspiracy! A sexist one at that. At least Hillary still has The Young Turks shilling for her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r9RP--IGEY
Well first of all it really is sexist. If Donald Trump wobbled a bit in front of cameras, looked bad, and then said he had Pneumonia nobody would pursue it any further. Why? Because theres nothing to be gained. Theres no traction to accrue if you pursue that sort of a rumor against him. Because there isnt a population of voters waiting for Trump to show the inherent weakness of his gender like there is for Hillary.
As to the rest, people can absolutely say what they want if it helps Trump and I won't object. As long as there are some FACTS involved, and not just wild speculation, a total disregard for facts, and a desperation that borders on pathetic. This is literally what conservatives sound like right now.
"Hillary doesn't look so good"
"She says she has pneumonia"
"Bullshit!"
"Why is that bullshit?"
"She can't be trusted"
"But her doctor-"
"SHE CANT BE TRUSTED"
"But you dont have any eviden-"
"SHE CANT BE TRUSTED SHE PROBLY HAS AIDS"
You are worried about me making liberals look bad? Well worry not friend, because this particular type of conservative absurdity makes conservatives look miserable and desperate to such a degree that it negates any possible harm I could ever do to the liberal image.
Quote from: Nonsensei on September 14, 2016, 12:03:35 PM"Hillary doesn't look so good"
"She says she has pneumonia"
"Bullshit!"
"Why is that bullshit?"
"She can't be trusted"
"But her doctor-"
"SHE CANT BE TRUSTED"
"But you dont have any eviden-"
"SHE CANT BE TRUSTED SHE PROBLY HAS AIDS"
Well, you're not far off. Conservative rumormills say she might be dead (https://conservativedailypost.com/breaking-abc-news-new-york-just-confirmed-hillary-dead-at-local-hospital/).
Also, President Obama might have just roundhoused Joe Biden and a case of beer might be a dollar at my local grocery store. Hey, it might be. We don't know for sure that it's not.
(http://images.ridemonkey.com/index.php?size=full&src=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2F4ce21cfcdd85e03c01a752a66456f3ff%2Ftumblr_mlkvs8bACE1qknzn8o1_1280.jpg)
Quote from: Hydra009 on September 14, 2016, 12:23:51 PM
Well, you're not far off. Conservative rumormills say she might be dead (https://conservativedailypost.com/breaking-abc-news-new-york-just-confirmed-hillary-dead-at-local-hospital/).
Holy shit! ABC actually carried that?
QuoteBREAKING: ABC News New York Just Confirmed Hillary Dead At Local Hospital
The party could run someone who isn't on the ballot? How would that work?
The Republicans have gone totally off the deep end. The entire party needs to be institutionalized for their loss of grip on reality.
Quote from: SGOS on September 14, 2016, 01:04:15 PMHoly shit! ABC actually carried that?
Yes (http://freebeacon.com/politics/anchor-accidentally-reports-clinton-dead/), that's true but misleading. The anchor said “I’m Joe Torres,†he said. “We begin with the breaking news about Hillary Clinton’s death.â€, and then talked about how she has pneumonia and just then had been escorted away from the ceremony.
The station says that the anchor inadvertently said "death" instead of "health", which seems plausible given the context of rest of the broadcast. Typically, when people die, the focus shifts away from how they're faring.
Quote from: Atheon on September 14, 2016, 04:00:15 PM
The Republicans have gone totally off the deep end. The entire party needs to be institutionalized for their loss of grip on reality.
Starting with that folksy ignoramus .... Abraham Lincoln. Nothing wrong with slavery ... except liberals don't like what people have been doing for 5000 years. Latest ... Liberals oppose shitting!
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on September 13, 2016, 11:47:45 AM
Articles are starting to float around to the effect of the DNC considering the possibility of replacing Clinton.
Titty sprinkles.
If Putin is really convinced that Hillary will nuke Russia, he would be justified in having his buddies take care of her, with plausible deniability of course. Ever try polonium?
Given technology worship, Hillary could have a majority of her human parts replaced with robotics and electronics ... the first iCandidate ... and Bill finally gets the Stepford Wife he always wanted ... bwahaha.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuAADocdVn0
Then the Republicans leaning her way can vote for her with a clean conscience ;-)
Trump is being entirely too quiet on the health issue... suddenly... he is way too much of a prick to be this quiet.
Unless he is giving her enough rope to hang herself.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/26/politics/julian-assange-dnc-email-leak-hack/
Quote from: Baruch on September 14, 2016, 07:07:49 PM
Starting with that folksy ignoramus .... Abraham Lincoln. Nothing wrong with slavery ... except liberals don't like what people have been doing for 5000 years. Latest ... Liberals oppose shitting!
Slavery as practiced in the new world has almost no historical comparison, and certainly not on scale. Slavery is a very broad word.
Party's over, folks (http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37369615).
QuoteHer campaign said on Wednesday that her physician found her complete physical examination was "normal" and she is in "excellent mental condition".
Dr Lisa Bardack said Mrs Clinton was "recovering well with antibiotics and rest".
A tad bit less dead than dead. I'm sure that conservative piece I link earlier will offer a retraction and apology for misleading its readers.
Jesus fucking Christ... it's just a touch of pneumonia, which she has gotten over. Hillary is fine. The odds of her dying are less than the odds of Trump dying: they're both perfectly healthy, yet he's 2 years older and a male.
Trigger warning!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ5L1vyl-BU
Love them middle aged pudgy rebels.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 15, 2016, 08:37:48 AM
Love them middle aged pudgy rebels.
I wonder if those glasses are standard issue with whatever uniform it is he is wearing? It reminds me of Nazis. No. It reminds me of Hollywood's versions of dystopian jack booted thugs, who are supposed to remind us of Nazis.
OK, this one is over. Neeeext.
Is it November, yet? :sad2:
You hit the nail on the head, Shoe. The American press rabidly clamps jaws on one thing, then the next, then the next. Doesn't even seem to freaking matter how inane or ridiculous the story is.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on September 15, 2016, 02:19:31 PM
OK, this one is over. Neeeext.
Is it November, yet? :sad2:
Breaking news: Hillary Clinton has a penis!
Quote from: Shiranu on September 14, 2016, 08:50:24 PM
Slavery as practiced in the new world has almost no historical comparison, and certainly not on scale. Slavery is a very broad word.
Back in the day, you could sell your family or yourself into slavery for debt. At one time 10,000 slaves a day were processed thru Delos Island (in the Aegean). With 50 million people, the Roman Empire was within spitting distance of our size and population.
Of course if you are in favor of White slavery, since you are not a 14 year old girl, you aren't qualified at present. Americans aren't uniquely evil, we are typically evil.
And I wasn't counting wage slavery or debt slavery. But since the US has brought back debtor's prison in some places, I am sure when you can't pay your credit card off in the future, you will be able to join Spartacus in the gladiatorial training school.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on September 15, 2016, 02:19:31 PM
OK, this one is over. Neeeext.
Is it November, yet? :sad2:
Saddam had body doubles. Do you know Hillary well enough to say that whoever shows up on TV tomorrow is the original? No need to worry about the Clinton Manifest Destiny.
Neither party in the US would ever think up something that has been done before in other countries.
Body doubles are something that dictators do. Therefore, it's far more likely that a Republican would use a body double than a Democrat, since Republicans are aiming to make America into a dictatorship.
Quote from: Atheon on September 16, 2016, 01:52:38 AM
Body doubles are something that dictators do. Therefore, it's far more likely that a Republican would use a body double than a Democrat, since Republicans are aiming to make America into a dictatorship.
I know of at least one instance where FDR used a double.
Quote from: Baruch on September 15, 2016, 06:56:11 PM
Saddam had body doubles. Do you know Hillary well enough to say that whoever shows up on TV tomorrow is the original? No need to worry about the Clinton Manifest Destiny.
Neither party in the US would ever think up something that has been done before in other countries.
How do you know I am not her double?
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 16, 2016, 08:17:56 AM
I know of at least one instance where FDR used a double.
I'd be interested to hear about it
Quote from: Atheon on September 16, 2016, 01:52:38 AM
Body doubles are something that dictators do. Therefore, it's far more likely that a Republican would use a body double than a Democrat, since Republicans are aiming to make America into a dictatorship.
Showing our true colors again? I would hate to be on the wrong side of a sports team fan contest with you ... would you do a Tanya Harding on me?
Quote from: Poison Tree on September 16, 2016, 11:46:30 AM
I'd be interested to hear about it
He needed a reason to be unavailable during the Atlantic Conference (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Charter), a clandestine meeting with Churchill at Placentia Bay, Nova Scotia. He was well known for his love of boating and fishing, so when the presidential yacht was seen running around Chesapeake Bay with a large figure sitting at the stern with a fishing pole people helped by assuming it was the President. It was actually one of his Secret Service guards. My sources noted that he'd done this kind of misdirection before and after that date.
FDR? Wasn't he that guy that looked like Robin Williams?
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 16, 2016, 08:17:56 AM
I know of at least one instance where FDR used a double.
Bet the double didn't like being given polio ;-)
Quote from: drunkenshoe on September 16, 2016, 09:02:12 AM
How do you know I am not her double?
You are intelligent. You are blowing your cover, try to act a bit more like Mrs MacBeth.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 17, 2016, 07:37:10 AM
He needed a reason to be unavailable during the Atlantic Conference (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Charter), a clandestine meeting with Churchill at Placentia Bay, Nova Scotia. He was well known for his love of boating and fishing, so when the presidential yacht was seen running around Chesapeake Bay with a large figure sitting at the stern with a fishing pole people helped by assuming it was the President. It was actually one of his Secret Service guards. My sources noted that he'd done this kind of misdirection before and after that date.
Not uncommon in WW II. Stalin was terrified that Hitler was still alive ... that he had many body doubles. Churchill and Montgomery used body doubles ... but perhaps MacArthur or Patton never, who would have the temerity?
Quote from: Baruch on September 17, 2016, 10:10:53 AM
Not uncommon in WW II. Stalin was terrified that Hitler was still alive ... that he had many body doubles. Churchill and Montgomery used body doubles ... but perhaps MacArthur or Patton never, who would have the temerity?
MacArthur wouldn't have approved any of the choices for his double unless they agreed to tie down their wings.
A rash is not proof of an ailment
A cough is not proof of the night,
Sec Clinton is showing her health now,
But Donald Trump's sniffles
Might not!