These syrians in canada crying that can't marry children or live by sharia fuckin law. these muslims "scientists" that are still wondering how women could possibly be actual humans. the child rape culture.. basing your life on this prophet that was a pedophile and beastiality kinda fella. he only molested the little girl until his dick would properly fit. what a religion to base your life around. you don't even have to get to the ridiculous stories, just look at how bankrupt a person has to be mentally/morally to be a pedophile endorsing piece of shit that wants a world under sharia law. sharia law is the most barbaric and perverse set of governing principles for a society/country to live by since forever.
donald trump wanting to fuck with muslims is great. people that sympathize with them are pieces of shit. even the women are pedophile sympathizers/pro pedophilia.. the children are doomed, like christian children.. only christianity lacks so much terrorism and child rape. islam is the worst religion of all time, by a mile. that says a lot with north america slowly coming back from 2000 years of noah's ark belief.
you're still here? Good to see you back
i wish donald trump didn't say what he did about latin people. i'd love to promote the shit out of him.. especially with the bern losing to hillbillary. lol yea, i'm here.
Donald Trump isn't going to do shit to Muslims. Hes also not going to build a wall between Mexico and the US, nor is he going to level a 45% tariff on Chinese imports.
Hes just saying he will so people exactly like you will vote for him. Then when he gets in he will cackle in glee and then proceed with whatever his real agenda is. Probably a bunch of pro business legislation and deregulation.
Quote from: Nonsensei on June 11, 2016, 04:11:40 PM
Donald Trump isn't going to do shit to Muslims. Hes also not going to build a wall between Mexico and the US, nor is he going to level a 45% tariff on Chinese imports.
Hes just saying he will so people exactly like you will vote for him. Then when he gets in he will cackle in glee and then proceed with whatever his real agenda is. Probably a bunch of pro business legislation and deregulation.
In other words, he'll be like any other candidate who got in since FDR, the last president really to carry through on his pre-election agenda. And don't say Reagan because Reagan presided over one of the greatest expanses of government in history and certainly one of the hugest increases in deficit spending in history.
Christians lack child rape?
You realise boys are children, right? There is almost a systematic abuse of male children under Catholic rule by priests. And nobody can even touch these people.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on June 21, 2016, 03:14:33 AM
Christians lack child rape?
You realise boys are children, right? There is almost a systematic abuse of male children under Catholic rule by priests. And nobody can even touch these people.
Solipsism at work.
Yeah well many different things mixed with that too. Exactly like men, boys are usually regarded as disposable in sexual abuse and rape compared to females.
But mostly here, from his posts I get a simpleton, straight 'muslims are the reason for all the poblems, let's annihilate them', but he is talking about a religion. Meaning he thinks there is one culture of one religion or a giant copy machine somewhere. He wants to support Trump because of his half wit threats, but wants to save the latins and upset that this cannot be the case. :lol:
How is that this person can be classified as secular? Well obviously there are many other words to describe him.
This is the kind of dark ignorance and compartmentalism I can't get my head around. The two ideas of Trump between muslims and latins, exactly the same, one cannot exist without the other. How blind someone needs to be not to be able to see that? Oy vey...
Quote from: drunkenshoe on June 21, 2016, 04:15:49 AM
Yeah well many different things mixed with that too. Exactly like men, boys are usually regarded as disposable in sexual abuse and rape compared to females.
But mostly here, from his posts I get a simpleton, straight 'muslims are the reason for all the poblems, let's annihilate them', but he is talking about a religion. Meaning he thinks there is one culture of one religion or a giant copy machine somewhere. He wants to support Trump because of his half wit threats, but wants to save the latins and upset that this cannot be the case. :lol:
How is that this person can be classified as secular? Well obviously there are many other words to describe him.
This is the kind of dark ignorance and compartmentalism I can't get my head around. The two ideas of Trump between muslims and latins, exactly the same, one cannot exist without the other. How blind someone needs to be not to be able to see that? Oy vey...
Secular is anyone who isn't a cleric!
I don't know who is going to win.
Numerically, the election will be close.
It seems that Clinton has a fairly easy electoral win. The electoral win is what counts.
On the OP .. Canada has been relatively open to ME immigrants compared to the US. Even had a TV show ... Little Mosque on the Prairie. It isn't even the culture clash ... the US had the same problem with our immigrants ... it is the quantity. Simply don't vote liberal, and tell the immigrants they need to integrate or else. If 1000 ME folks are allowed to immigrate to Canada per year, that is probably no problem. But if like Europe, 1 million ME folks are allowed to immigrate to Canada per year ... that isn't going to work out ... except maybe for the Rothschilds. They want everyone on earth to hate ME people for some strange reason ...
Quote from: Baruch on June 21, 2016, 07:07:41 AM
On the OP .. Canada has been relatively open to ME immigrants compared to the US. Even had a TV show ... Little Mosque on the Prairie. It isn't even the culture clash ... the US had the same problem with our immigrants ... it is the quantity. Simply don't vote liberal, and tell the immigrants they need to integrate or else. If 1000 ME folks are allowed to immigrate to Canada per year, that is probably no problem. But if like Europe, 1 million ME folks are allowed to immigrate to Canada per year ... that isn't going to work out ... except maybe for the Rothschilds. They want everyone on earth to hate ME people for some strange reason ...
Why generalize and say ME folk? We're not talking Coptic Christians, Jews, or Armenians here.
Little Mosque on the Prairie?! :kiddingme: Did you make that up? Though they did produce two season of "Puppets That Kill"---Damn! There's a weird parallel there! LOL!
Good points about numbers allowed in, and differentiating between those "interested" in integrating into the host country's prevailing culture/values, and the "other kind" just looking for "free treats" on the tax payer's dime/dinar.
Still leaves the issue of second or third gens who become disaffected for whatever reason/s and go off the deep end ala the Fort Hood, San Bernadino, and Orlando shooters (amongst others). THAT is a VARY BIG problem with no easy solution/s. The people most likely to know the disaffected are up to no good will be family and close friends---the same group/s most likely to be apologists for them; if not providing outright cover.
If you see or hear something---------say something!
Quote from: Jack89 on June 21, 2016, 08:38:23 AM
Why generalize and say ME folk? We're not talking Coptic Christians, Jews, or Armenians here.
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Armenians make trouble by filing law suites against Turkey for their genocide. Jews of course are trouble, because we are the people everyone wants to blame/kill. Coptic Christians are a minority in Egypt, but also New Jersey. New Jersey is the Egypt away from Egypt. Like Jews, Armenians & Copts would appreciate not being murdered.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_Americans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wABByakbpKs ... its Canada, they have Dudley Doright too.
Quote from: Baruch on June 21, 2016, 01:38:13 PM
Armenians make trouble by filing law suites against Turkey for their genocide.
On the contrary. The problem is that they refuse to do that. So it is played as political bargain chip. There is nothing left in the issue about what happened a 100 years ago but just what's to negotiate for today in terms of international politics.
PS Not Armenians, Armenian Diaspora. I doubt if Armenians give a shit about it.
Muslims are not a problem here in Canada. Some of these countries probably are bringing in a bit more people than they can handle, though, so I understand people in some countries having issues with the immigration. Muslims in Canada are not really causing any problems that I know of, though. Even our terrorists are complete gentlemen. We had two Muslim terrorist attacks in two days, with only soldiers killed and no innocent casualties.
Fuck Islam though. I have voted for a Muslim multiple times and I will again, but after seeing what the mayor of London is doing, I don't blame anyone if they say they would never vote for a Muslim. Letting his disgusting religion get involved with policy and banning certain ads because they "body shame" females. Disgraceful. You can not let your religion influence policy like that.
Could that be, because Canada is not a direct part of EU or in this sense Western international politics?
If Canada had any means of benefits and profits tied to the club, Muslims would be making a lot of problems. Just wait for the required political climate shift. You'll see how things will change 180 degrees in a few months under right cricumstances.
Suddenly there will be a 'realisation' among the population how things were really bad, but auhorities have been lying to them for years.
:lol:
QuoteFuck Islam though. I have voted for a Muslim multiple times and I will again, but after seeing what the mayor of London is doing, I don't blame anyone if they say they would never vote for a Muslim. Letting his disgusting religion get involved with policy and banning certain ads because they "body shame" females. Disgraceful. You can not let your religion influence policy like that.
You are conflicting with yourself. If you are voting for a Muslim then you experienced that he-she can commit to the duty seculary -considering you are not insane, I am guessing that's the case- without bringing his-her religion, but support others on something ridiculous as vowing on not vote for some person if his religion is a speific one at the other side of the world.
Directly connected to what I wrote up there, have you ever conisdered why this happens in Europe, but not in the Canada? No, not just a space thing.
Do you realise that besides the political-profit games, your country; your people; the culture as a whole has a completely different attitude towards migrants overall?
I personally know several people who emigrated to Canada and they love their country and they are loyal to it. Seriously, you cannot say one word against it. I haven't heard one uttered hatred against Canadians, its culture in any level or some story that would make people say "ah yeah well typical west". I am sure there are lots of unwanted events and I just personally haven't coincided any.
:arrow: But over all the general impression is that Canada is neither US or nor EU and a far more civilised, secular country and a real country for migrants. It is actually right after Scandinavia in many levels. So there is no comparison with EU, esp with UK.
Yeah, Canada is a really nice place and I like the attitude we have towards the people coming in. We are really accepting of different people, but at the same time, there are plenty of people who are not quite as accepting. We still have plenty of assholes. In my own family, you have my father who complains about these people coming in and receiving benefits, and both my parents after the Orlando shooting said that it was the Christian God sending the world a warning and punishing these people for their homosexuality.
As far as me seeing why some would be hesitant to vote for a Muslim, maybe that was a stupid comment by me, but Muslims on average do seem to take their religion more seriously than Christians do. I know there are plenty of Muslims who don't take their religion that seriously at all, but on average, they have a higher religiosity compared to Christians.
Oh certainly they do. I don't see muslims benign as a religious horde. NEVER.
But there are many other different factors in play why people start to embrace extremism. It's not like that's an easy life. Esp. in a Christian country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ-QX8LuKHA
America and Europe are different situations. If Washington DC did to America, what Berlin has done to Europe .. we gonna nuke somebody's ass.
Quote from: Baruch on June 26, 2016, 10:40:34 PM
America and Europe are different situations. If Washington DC did to America, what Berlin has done to Europe .. we gonna nuke somebody's ass.
What needs to happen - so, it won't happen - is that the EU countries have got to put their collective foot down. They've got to tell their Muslim populations that they must live according to European laws and customs or - get out. There will be no Sharia Law in Europe, like it or not. You can't have it, simple as that.We will not let you live that way here.
Quote from: marom1963 on June 26, 2016, 11:06:00 PM
What needs to happen - so, it won't happen - is that the EU countries have got to put their collective foot down. They've got to tell their Muslim populations that they must live according to European laws and customs or - get out. There will be no Sharia Law in Europe, like it or not. You can't have it, simple as that.We will not let you live that way here.
Sweden has started that already. 80,000 immigrants will be deported in the next few weeks. People had enough. Other countries will surely follow.
The rape epidemic has become unbearable, this is the logical consequence. It shows how cultural differences are sometimes insurmountable.
Hopefully the US (and Canada) take to heart what is happening in Europe and learn from that experience.
Quote from: reasonist on June 26, 2016, 11:18:43 PM
Sweden has started that already. 80,000 immigrants will be deported in the next few weeks. People had enough. Other countries will surely follow.
The rape epidemic has become unbearable, this is the logical consequence. It shows how cultural differences are sometimes insurmountable.
Hopefully the US (and Canada) take to heart what is happening in Europe and learn from that experience.
About time. You can't let people come into your house and start breaking up the furniture and not do anything about it.
Quote from: marom1963 on June 26, 2016, 11:06:00 PM
What needs to happen - so, it won't happen - is that the EU countries have got to put their collective foot down. They've got to tell their Muslim populations that they must live according to European laws and customs or - get out. There will be no Sharia Law in Europe, like it or not. You can't have it, simple as that.We will not let you live that way here.
But if the majority becomes Muslim, are you then anti-democratic? What if the first act of democratic Islam is to abolish democracy in favor of Saudi monarchy? What you say is ... "this is Sparta, not Athens". Who won that Peloponnesian War anyway? Sparta did, with Persian assistance.
Quote from: Baruch on June 27, 2016, 06:58:41 AM
But if the majority becomes Muslim, are you then anti-democratic? What if the first act of democratic Islam is to abolish democracy in favor of Saudi monarchy? What you say is ... "this is Sparta, not Athens". Who won that Peloponnesian War anyway? Sparta did, with Persian assistance.
It certainly seems to be heading that way in Europe. Once Muslims have majority voting power, it will be the last free and democratic election. Sharia will be implemented and common law abolished. We (they) have to end the 'politically correct' bs and name it for what it is. A brutal and very obvious takeover of European values and cultures with it's end goal of their demise. The majority of immigrants don't have the slightest inclination for assimilation. The Koran forbids it as apostasy. Not sure if it is too late already but deport any single males, keep only families who's patriarch has skills useful to the local economy. That way crime, especially rape, is curtailed. Arrest any clerics that propagate hate speech and unrest. Secure the borders and be selective who gets to come in. Stop child support payments after the third child. Maybe this would slow the birth rate and create a more balanced demographic.
Radical? Maybe but I can't see any other solution to curb the influx and lower the crime rate....
I think that Europe has passed the point of no return.
The flood of migrants will not stop. There is no will to stop it anyway.
An economic collapse will trigger some very unpleasant situations.
Socialist welfare and unlimited immigration is unsustainable.
What Europe needs, is for the US to pull out and Greater Russia to be formed all the way to the Atlantic. Putin has balls. Borrow his.
Quote from: Baruch on June 28, 2016, 07:12:57 AM
What Europe needs, is for the US to pull out and Greater Russia to be formed all the way to the Atlantic. Putin has balls. Borrow his.
Not sure if you are kidding...two words come to mind instantly: autocracy and corruption. Over half the population in Russia want their communism back. That's not a good sign. Putin has balls all right but he is walking a tight line after Crimea and eastern Ukraine. Because of sanctions the economy is in shambles and the Ruble is sinking. If you would ask western European folks, they would cringe at the idea of a Russian Europe.
Quote from: reasonist on June 28, 2016, 11:25:28 AM
Not sure if you are kidding...two words come to mind instantly: autocracy and corruption. Over half the population in Russia want their communism back. That's not a good sign. Putin has balls all right but he is walking a tight line after Crimea and eastern Ukraine. Because of sanctions the economy is in shambles and the Ruble is sinking. If you would ask western European folks, they would cringe at the idea of a Russian Europe.
Let Mother Russia give them some tough love. At least they are Europeans. And I am sick and tired of babysitting a bunch of weak socialist layabouts. No, I wasn't kidding. Russia marched all the way to Paris in 1814. They need to do it again in 2016 ... to sort out the German problem and the French problem. Let the Scots, Irish and Welsh sort out the English problem ;-) And let there be Czar Putin ... the Russians know how to do that ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7PLRmnFOls
The men and women are magnificent ;-)
Quote from: Baruch on June 28, 2016, 07:06:40 PM
Let Mother Russia give them some tough love. At least they are Europeans. And I am sick and tired of babysitting a bunch of weak socialist layabouts. No, I wasn't kidding. Russia marched all the way to Paris in 1814. They need to do it again in 2016 ... to sort out the German problem and the French problem. Let the Scots, Irish and Welsh sort out the English problem ;-) And let there be Czar Putin ... the Russians know how to do that ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7PLRmnFOls
The men and women are magnificent ;-)
Actually, I've hoped for a long time that Russia would restore its monarchy - albeit in a constitutional form, w/the czar as a figurehead, though it would be a czaritsa, as the current pretender is a grand duchess ... Though most of Russia is in what is deemed Asia, I think that it should become part of the EU - that would be interesting. I would love to watch that. "Nyet!" would be a constant from Putin. That and "Da - you will!"
I simply don't understand Russo-phobia either. If England can have a Queen, I see no reason why Russia can't have a Czar. Republics aren't a solution ... Stalin and Hitler ran republics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0siryi0QsQ
I love military reviews ... even the Chinese ;-))
Quote from: Baruch on June 28, 2016, 07:27:46 PM
I simply don't understand Russo-phobia either. If England can have a Queen, I see no reason why Russia can't have a Czar. Republics aren't a solution ... Stalin and Hitler ran republics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0siryi0QsQ
I love military reviews ... even the Chinese ;-))
Privilege by birthright? Czar Putin and maybe Erdogan and Kim Jong-un as heirs? 300,000 deaths to get rid of the Romanovs; even the Russians wouldn't go for a repeat. What works well in Russia is 'panem et circenses', cheap Wodka available everywhere. It worked for the Romans and it works for the Russians and maybe even Europeans. I remember vividly 1968 when Soviet tanks rolled into Prague and crushed the 'Prague Spring' and Dubcek was ousted. Too much freedom I guess. schools were closed, panic took over when this all happened 30 miles from home. Hard to forget.
But then again, anything would be better than Sharia.
Quote from: reasonist on June 29, 2016, 07:13:17 PM
Privilege by birthright? Czar Putin and maybe Erdogan and Kim Jong-un as heirs? 300,000 deaths to get rid of the Romanovs; even the Russians wouldn't go for a repeat. What works well in Russia is 'panem et circenses', cheap Wodka available everywhere. It worked for the Romans and it works for the Russians and maybe even Europeans. I remember vividly 1968 when Soviet tanks rolled into Prague and crushed the 'Prague Spring' and Dubcek was ousted. Too much freedom I guess. schools were closed, panic took over when this all happened 30 miles from home. Hard to forget.
But then again, anything would be better than Sharia.
The British got rid of Charles I - but brought back Charles II. Relative populations, more people died in the Civil War than did in the Russian Revolution ... I would not mind seeing a restoration of the dynasty. The State Funeral that was granted to the Imperial Family when the remains of the slaughtered czar and his family were laid to rest in Peter and Paul was touching and showed that the public still had affection for the Romanovs ... I do favor constitutional monarchy in those countries that are lucky enough to have them ...
Failure to appreciate the finer points of European culture ... isn't my problem, I am not European. If one were Austrian, one would think that one would have greater appreciation for one's allies at Austerlitz.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIVgdFteJBw
The French tried to create a united Europe, even before the Germans ;-)
Quote from: Baruch on June 29, 2016, 08:08:07 PM
Failure to appreciate the finer points of European culture ... isn't my problem, I am not European. If one were Austrian, one would think that one would have greater appreciation for one's allies at Austerlitz.
The French tried to create a united Europe, even before the Germans ;-)
Good point, although the Russian help didn't work out so well. :-))
I was never into Monarchies, can't buy into the premise that someone not elected should be a ruler over people. Look at Switzerland. The Swiss system is the closest to a fair representation of the people. Stable for a very long time and neutral. No immigration problem and the crime rate is a fraction compared to Germany, France or even Austria. Their political system is a multi party representation and a few plebiscites in between elections for a direct say of the people.
But what of the history of Switzerland? Can anyone Tell? Isolated little villages in narrow valleys, everyone made independent by the geography. That doesn't happen on great plains, particularly if you have horsemen. Small town New England
As an American, I of course am skeptical of monarchies. But I don't mind if other people do it. Switzerland was one of the models for the US government ... that and the Iroquois Federation and the Dutch Republic. Greece was mountainous too, so it tended toward anarchic small states. Once they were done killing each other, their various polities were replaced by Macedonian monarchy. So which is more stable? Greece didn't have independence until the 19th century, but a constitutional monarchy at that, until the 1960s.