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Christians, whats the latest spin doctoring on your Yahweh god not being a brutal and horrific serial killer as explicitly shown herein?
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and I create evil, I the LORD do all these things." (Isaiah 45:7)
"Shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?" (Amos 3:6)
The reason that the Hebrew Christian god Yahweh, of which is one of many BCE gods in this era, decides to drown the entire world accept Noah and family, is because his creation are evil and unworthy of existence (Genesis 6:5). The irony is that Yahweh created evil in the first place as shown above in the passages in question. Yahweh is also omniscient (1 John 3:20) , therefore he knew his creation would falter and he would have to kill them, therefore Christians and Jews worship a god that is Schizophrenic!
"Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. The LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. The LORD said, "I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, from man to animals to creeping things and to birds of the sky; for I am sorry that I have made them." (Genesis 6:5-7)
Christians, can an innocent zygote and fetus ever be evil enough where they need to be destroyed within their mothers womb by your Yahweh god? Can a baby really be evil where they need to die a horrible death by hopelessly treading water in Yahweh’s flood for hours as they cry out in horror to their mothers; as their muscles burned due to large amounts of lactic acid production. Where once they finally give up, they went under, and held their breaths, acidic carbon dioxide eroded their lungs until the unbearable pain forced them to inhale where there was no air for them to breathe. All the while, the ever loving and forgiving Yahweh god is watching.
Then the water brought into their little lungs robbed their little bodies of oxygen, causing them to go numb. As water violently rushed in and out of their little chests, it finally laid their heavily breathing and slowly dying bodies to the bottom of the ocean as the inhaled water caused their lungs to tear and bleed profusely. All the while, the ever loving and forgiving Yahweh god is watching.
As their blood supply dwindled, their innocent hearts slowly came to a halt. Even so, their brains continued to process information for another couple of minutes. They were patently aware that death was imminent, yet they could do nothing to prevent it. We can only imagine that their final thoughts would have been on what they did to deserve such horrific treatment and death. All the while, the ever loving and forgiving Yahweh god is watching.
Yahweh is the god concept that Christians want to promote to others so they too can become worshippers to a serial killer god going into the 21st century, makes sense, doesn't it?
“When Christians understand why you dismiss all the other gods in the Before Common Era, then you will understand why I dismiss your serial killer god named Yahweh.â€
(http://s32.postimage.org/7cesx3k3p/flood.jpg)
And what have the animals done to deserve to be punished by drowning? Sinners all! Very bad design indeed.
The flood story is about 5,000 years old, same script, different actors. None of the apologists was able to explain that. Must be Yahweh was just lazy and copied it all. That's why he needed to 'rest' on the 7th day. Omnipotence can be exhausting.
Basically, God creates imperfect beings and then regrets making imperfect beings (because apparently a god living outside of time can change his mind), and instead of scrapping everything and starting from scratch, decides to let one family of imperfect beings to live so that they could fill the world yet again with imperfect beings. Makes perfect sense. Almost as much sense as the time he brought down the Tower of Babel and divided the world's ONLY language because he was worried that we'd actually reach Heaven with it.
Blackleaf,
YOUR QUOTE: (because apparently a god living outside of time can change his mind)
Any Christian, that actually reads their bible, would call you on this one because the inspired word of Yahweh god states; to wit: "God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?" (Numbers 23:19)
Relative to this passage above, then there is the problem of when Yahweh obviously lied to his Jewish creation in the Old Testament because he changed his mind and created a New Testament. Another roller coaster ride for the pseudo-christian to ponder as they frantically page through their apologetic books, but there're used to it.
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Where is Randy Carson to give us the latest apologetic spin doctoring to his serial killer Yahweh god drowning his creation? The pseudo-christian like Randy always run from these disturbing narratives. I know, whats new?
Quote from: 21CIconoclast on May 11, 2016, 02:32:30 PM
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Where is Randy Carson to give us the latest apologetic spin doctoring to his serial killer Yahweh god drowning his creation? The pseudo-christian like Randy always run from these disturbing narratives. I know, whats new?
He's already in virtually every other thread in this subforum. Why do you want him to dominate our discussions here too? IMO, we need one of two things:
1. More Christians to offer us some variety (and take some of the load off of Randy).
2. A break from Randy.
Quote from: Blackleaf on May 11, 2016, 02:44:42 PM
YOUR QUOTE: "He's already in virtually every other thread in this sub forum. Why do you want him to dominate our discussions here too? IMO, we need one of two things:"
To answer your question, to easily make him the fool for accepting the thinking of the Bronze and Iron Age. Yes, there is a reason he is steering clear of this thread, and that is to save embarrassment regarding his Yahweh gods inspired word.
Quote from: 21CIconoclast on May 10, 2016, 04:40:20 PM
Blackleaf,
YOUR QUOTE: (because apparently a god living outside of time can change his mind)
Any Christian, that actually reads their bible, would call you on this one because the inspired word of Yahweh god states; to wit: "God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?" (Numbers 23:19)
Relative to this passage above, then there is the problem of when Yahweh obviously lied to his Jewish creation in the Old Testament because he changed his mind and created a New Testament. Another roller coaster ride for the pseudo-christian to ponder as they frantically page through their apologetic books, but there're used to it.
The Bible is literally filled with examples of God changing his mind, usually persuaded by some argument made by the devout. Originally, for instance, he was going to destroy everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah. But Abraham talked him down. And Job was leading a blessed life because of his devotion to the Lord. But then Satan marched up to the throne and made a bet with him so God said, "I'm going to kill everyone you know" and that was that. On a bet! WITH SATAN!
What's more, God also has "regrets", which is a little odd for a deity who knew how things would turn out before he did them. He regretted that he made man at all in Genesis and regretted that he made Saul king in 1 Samuel.
Because we are imperfect it is generally considered to be IMPOSSIBLE for us to live a life without sin. In fact, we are born into sin. And we are damned to an eternity of torture (by most Christian religions) if we do not beg forgiveness for this sin. So, we need to beg forgiveness for any sin we might have committed AND it is impossible for us not to have sinned. Essentially we need to beg forgiveness for not doing that which is NOT POSSIBLE for us to do. We need to beg forgiveness from God for being EXACTLY what God made us. We need to beg forgiveness for our own creation from he who created us, it would seem.
But, yeah, it all makes perfect sense. I mean, as an atheist I, of course,
know God exists. Who doesn't? I just
deny him because I don't want to do what he says to do, which is...not that much different from what I do now, really. I mean, I would have to not kill people or rape dogs, but I
think I can handle that. It actually shouldn't be too hard since I don't do those things anyway and never had any intention of starting. But still, I
really don't want to do what God wants me to do, to not kill people or rape dogs, which I don't do anyway. So, yeah, as an atheist I know God exists, of course, as we all do. We just
choose to deny him because it's just so damned hard because, though we don't kill people or rape dogs and have no desire to do so anyway (most of us...I hope) we
really aren't ready to actually commit to that stance. What if I want to kill people or rape dogs in the future? I can't lock myself into that kind of restrictive lifestyle!
Quote from: 21CIconoclast on May 11, 2016, 03:14:35 PM
Quote from: Blackleaf on May 11, 2016, 02:44:42 PM
YOUR QUOTE: "He's already in virtually every other thread in this sub forum. Why do you want him to dominate our discussions here too? IMO, we need one of two things:"
To answer your question, to easily make him the fool for accepting the thinking of the Bronze and Iron Age. Yes, there is a reason he is steering clear of this thread, and that is to save embarrassment regarding his Yahweh gods inspired word.
Nuh, he'll be back spreading his trash. He is a masochist, he likes abuse. When your head is that far up your ass, nothing registers anymore, nothing bothers you. Especially not the truth. People like him will never admit that they are wrong by any standard of a rational discourse. They can't. It's like religious clergy. They know their gig is up but can't stop. They know nothing else, complete failures in life, religion is the only refuge they have left. It makes a good living for many con artists out there. Selling an invisible product is good business. This won't stop until people lose their fear of death. And that won't happen anytime soon. Carson is a prime example of deluded wish thinking. "If I only repeat it often enough, I can make it so."
Quote from: reasonist on May 10, 2016, 03:20:28 PM
And what have the animals done to deserve to be punished by drowning? Sinners all! Very bad design indeed.
The flood story is about 5,000 years old, same script, different actors. None of the apologists was able to explain that. Must be Yahweh was just lazy and copied it all. That's why he needed to 'rest' on the 7th day. Omnipotence can be exhausting.
Flood may have been caused by
the Black Sea being inundated by the Mediterranean Sea (http://www.nationalgeographic.com/blacksea/ax/frame.html).
No God needed.
Obviously you misunderstand the babble, surely Randy will be along to correct your misunderstanding as much as they have done for the last two millennia whenever presented with unfortunate or disproven quackery.
There is a long history of some Catholics being flagellants. Some Shia Muslims too.
Quote from: 21CIconoclast on May 11, 2016, 02:32:30 PM
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Where is Randy Carson to give us the latest apologetic spin doctoring to his serial killer Yahweh god drowning his creation? The pseudo-christian like Randy always run from these disturbing narratives. I know, whats new?
Your request for the "latest apologetics spin" suggests that you are already familiar with the "old apologetics spin" Christians have offered in the past.
Do you suspect apologists have come up with something new? And have you understood what they already told you well enough to restate it in your own words?
I have no idea what this thread is about, so I'll just leave this here.
(http://i.imgur.com/n6r6wvL.jpg)
Quote from: Randy Carson on May 12, 2016, 12:37:08 PM
Your request for the "latest apologetics spin" suggests that you are already familiar with the "old apologetics spin" Christians have offered in the past.
Do you suspect apologists have come up with something new? And have you understood what they already told you well enough to restate it in your own words?
Randy,
Barring your skewed word salad, I am always intrigued by the pseudo-christians latest spin doctoring on any disturbing biblical topic like the one herein.
The question remains, are you going to address the topic at hand of your Yahweh god being ever loving and forgiving, and at the same time of this assumed notion, he drowns his creation as he also initiates abortions to the women with child? Or, are you going to put on your running shoes and run away from it like 99.99 percent of your Christian brethren do on a continued basis? Well?
Have you run him off yet? I was quite enjoying this forum until he showed up. Seems there are people here who like to reply to an abusive manipulator as if they're going to change his tune.
Quote from: gentle_dissident on May 12, 2016, 02:34:54 PM
Have you run him off yet? I was quite enjoying this forum until he showed up. Seems there are people here who like to reply to an abusive manipulator as if they're going to change his tune.
gentle_dissident,
I don't want Randy to change his tune by burying him with disturbing and horrific biblical axioms because that is the entertainment for me, where one shows the pseudo-christian in just how inept and dumbfounded they actually are in still hanging on to their primitive Bronze and Iron Age cult as we go into the 21st century. Subjectively, when an Atheist performs this act to the point where the Christian has to remain silent to save face, as if those disturbing biblical passages and narratives are going away anytime soon, then in a roundabout way, the Christian has changed their tune by not being able to address said disturbing passages and remain intelligent looking in the aftermath. Therefore their "tune" becomes flat and out of key.
Case in point to my posts; Randy Johnson.
Quote from: 21CIconoclast on May 12, 2016, 02:00:34 PM
Randy,
Barring your skewed word salad, I am always intrigued by the pseudo-christians latest spin doctoring on any disturbing biblical topic like the one herein.
The question remains, are you going to address the topic at hand of your Yahweh god being ever loving and forgiving, and at the same time of this assumed notion, he drowns his creation as he also initiates abortions to the women with child? Or, are you going to put on your running shoes and run away from it like 99.99 percent of your Christian brethren do on a continued basis? Well?
Resolved: God's actions in the Old Testament reveal Him to be a moral monster.
You have the affirmative. I will take the opposite position and explain and defend God's actions.
My only request (since I have a lot of threads to maintain) is that we address one point at a time. IOW, I'm not interested in responding to a single post referencing the flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, the "genocide" of the Canaanites, etc. I don't care what example you choose, but I do ask that we address one at a time.
Agreed? Is the resolution satisfactory to you?
But you know, I'd also like to ask you this: Is your concern really about the behavior of God in the OT or are you troubled by something much deeper like why there is so much suffering in the world?
Those are two different discussions.
Quote from: gentle_dissident on May 12, 2016, 02:34:54 PM
Have you run him off yet? I was quite enjoying this forum until he showed up. Seems there are people here who like to reply to an abusive manipulator as if they're going to change his tune.
Yeah...mocking Christianity is a hoot until a knowledgeable Christian shows up and starts to point out all your misunderstandings, misinterpretations, fallacies, double-standards and inconsistencies.
Takes all the fun right out of it, don't it? (http://forums.catholic.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Quote from: Randy Carson on May 12, 2016, 05:14:35 PM
Yeah...mocking Christianity is a hoot until a knowledgeable Christian shows up and starts to point out all your misunderstandings, misinterpretations, fallacies, double-standards and inconsistencies.
Takes all the fun right out of it, don't it? (http://forums.catholic.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Let me know when such a Christian appears.
So far all I've seen are Christians engaging in baseless assertion campaigns and mental gymnastics, reeking of a deeply held fear that if they ever engaged in an honest discussion of the topic they would be forced to admit they have no legitimate basis for their beliefs beyond making themselves feel better about death.
Quote from: Nonsensei on May 12, 2016, 05:28:17 PM
Let me know when such a Christian appears.
So far all I've seen are Christians engaging in baseless assertion campaigns and mental gymnastics, reeking of a deeply held fear that if they ever engaged in an honest discussion of the topic they would be forced to admit they have no legitimate basis for their beliefs beyond making themselves feel better about death.
Is there a particular question you'd like to ask? An "honest discussion" you'd like to have? If so, what would it be?
Care less about the fiction of Noah's Ark. Might want to look up the ancestors of the Native Americans-Aztecs, Incas, Utes, Apaches, a few other tribes- that were enslaved by the Spanish and later the Portuguese and worked to death in gold mines. The Spanish that included Dominican friars getting wealthy off the death of their converts.
I'm more concerned about the Zika virus that can best be stopped by birth control, not sanctioned by our Pope. Take every microcephalic baby to the Vatican and have His Popeness bless them back to health. The long lasting spread of AIDS/HIV in Africa aided and abetted by the Catholics condemnation of condoms and birth control. Instead of teaching and aiding health measures that would have curbed the spread, they condemned it.
Don't tell me religion is a force for good in the world. There are way too many examples of the opposite.
Quote from: stromboli on May 12, 2016, 09:09:54 PMTake every microcephalic baby to the Vatican and have His Popeness bless them back to health.
You forget, the Bible has an out anytime you want to do something like that: "Thou shalt not put the Lord thy God to the test." After all, if you were allowed to exercise scientific scrutiny, you'd run the risk of disproving their religion. :lol:
Quote from: Randy Carson on May 12, 2016, 05:14:35 PM
Yeah...mocking Christianity is a hoot until a knowledgeable Christian shows up and starts to point out all your misunderstandings, misinterpretations, fallacies, double-standards and inconsistencies.
Stroke your own ego much?
Quote from: Randy Carson on May 12, 2016, 06:38:30 PM
Is there a particular question you'd like to ask? An "honest discussion" you'd like to have? If so, what would it be?
Why are you such a douche bag?
Quote from: SGOS on May 13, 2016, 08:05:37 AM
Why are you such a douche bag?
Is there a particular question about the scriptures, Christianity or Catholicism that you'd like to ask?
Quote from: Randy Carson on May 13, 2016, 09:28:52 AM
Is there a particular question about the scriptures, Christianity or Catholicism that you'd like to ask?
A particular question? Like why do millions of Catholics give a pass to clergy that live like kings, bugger little boys on a daily basis and live off the donations of the poor and needy to fund their lifestyle? Those kind of questions?
Or why the holy church still continues to insist on not using condoms and birth control when use of same can control disease and improve conditions in poor countries by controlling birth rates? Shit like that?
Its called the big picture. You can argue the existence of Jesus all day, but your religion is guilty of genocide, buggery, pedophilia, taking advantage of the poor and uneducated, and indulging a clergy that in real terms does little or nothing for their flock.
Whole nations have been subsumed and used by your vaunted church. Centuries of virtual slavery and punishment for people that sought to move mankind forward. They threatened Galileo with beheading for merely pointing out what he had learned. They burned Giordano Bruno at the stake. Happy bunch, those Catholics. Just happens the Dark Ages coincided with Catholicism's control of Europe. Hmmm..... Might be a connection there.
There is an ongoing pattern of removing pedophiles from positions where they harm children and move them to other places so they can continue their lifestyle, rather than turn them over to authorities. On and on, your religion is nothing but a corrupt and useless organization that was formed to perpetrate and indulge the power hungry and ceased any useful purpose centuries ago. Work on that for a bit.
Quote from: stromboli on May 13, 2016, 09:48:44 AM
A particular question? Like why do millions of Catholics give a pass to clergy that live like kings, bugger little boys on a daily basis and live off the donations of the poor and needy to fund their lifestyle? Those kind of questions?
We don't. That was easy.
Next.
QuoteOr why the holy church still continues to insist on not using condoms and birth control when use of same can control disease and improve conditions in poor countries by controlling birth rates? Shit like that?
Because contraception is inherently evil.
Next.
QuoteIts called the big picture. You can argue the existence of Jesus all day, but your religion is guilty of genocide, buggery, pedophilia, taking advantage of the poor and uneducated, and indulging a clergy that in real terms does little or nothing for their flock.
Do Catholics have monopolies on all these things? Or do you find them just about everywhere humans can be found?
Next.
QuoteWhole nations have been subsumed and used by your vaunted church. Centuries of virtual slavery and punishment for people that sought to move mankind forward. They threatened Galileo with beheading for merely pointing out what he had learned. They burned Giordano Bruno at the stake. Happy bunch, those Catholics. Just happens the Dark Ages coincided with Catholicism's control of Europe. Hmmm..... Might be a connection there.
Not really. And you misrepresent the case against Galileo. Bruno was condemned as a heretic based upon his rejection of numerous doctrines. You can read more here:
http://www.catholic.com/magazine/articles/how-fact-becomes-anti-catholic-fiction
Next.
QuoteThere is an ongoing pattern of removing pedophiles from positions where they harm children and move them to other places so they can continue their lifestyle, rather than turn them over to authorities.
Yes, and I'm very disturbed about reports that public school officials have been doing this. Next.
QuoteOn and on, your religion is nothing but a corrupt and useless organization that was formed to perpetrate and indulge the power hungry and ceased any useful purpose centuries ago. Work on that for a bit.
Thank you for sharing your opinion. You sound like a very intolerant person.
Next.
How come nobody is replying to the OP? There are some legitimate points being made here.
Quote from: Randy Carson on May 13, 2016, 10:17:29 AM
Because contraception is inherently evil.
Wow, this is like an interview with Charlie Manson. It's like a freak show or a horror movie. I lost interest in freak shows and horror movies a while back. I'm no longer a kid fascinated by poop. Now that I'm 48 and becoming more emotionally mature, religion makes me ill. It's hate speech.
Quote from: Randy Carson on May 13, 2016, 09:28:52 AM
Is there a particular question about the scriptures, Christianity or Catholicism that you'd like to ask?
Nope.
"Because contraception is inherently evil."
are you a moron? Contraception stops what is inherently evil from happening. Abortion. If you don't like abortions then STFU about contraception. I think it's laughable. All knowing God never actually addresses contraception in the bible yet some shmuck decided they knew what god wanted to say about it. It's all a bunch of bullshit. No where in the bible does it talk about contraception or whether they are evil. You'd think an all knowing god would have foresight but no sadly he seems to only have the knowledge of a goat herder of the time.
I get tired of Christians who hang themselves on this issue.
Quote from: doorknob on May 13, 2016, 12:59:14 PM
"Because contraception is inherently evil."
are you a moron? Contraception stops what is inherently evil from happening. Abortion. If you don't like abortions then STFU about contraception. I think it's laughable. All knowing God never actually addresses contraception in the bible yet some shmuck decided they knew what god wanted to say about it. It's all a bunch of bullshit. No where in the bible does it talk about contraception or whether they are evil. You'd think an all knowing god would have foresight but no sadly he seems to only have the knowledge of a goat herder of the time.
I get tired of Christians who hang themselves on this issue.
Anyone tired of being f**** up the ass by Constantine? Apostle Paul says, you must always obey your government, because G-d put Caligula in charge.
Therefore women must accept marital rape, because G-d intended it for you (but not heterosex outside of marriage or homosex of any kind). Masochism, sheer masochism if you are a woman and accept this. If you have a miscarriage, then that is G-d's will also. Really? Just don't induce a miscarriage, even accidentally, or you are a murderer. Really? If all the women would just walk out the door, the Catholic men could just s*** each other.
Lol. Quoting from catholic magazine to defend his case. That is objective criticism right there.
Public schools are public. Bad stuff gets reported when it happens. Catholic clergy have been getting way with murder for centuries behind closed doors. Randy has a massive mental block when it comes to Catholicism, apparently.
Quote from: Randy Carson on May 12, 2016, 06:38:30 PM
Is there a particular question you'd like to ask? An "honest discussion" you'd like to have? If so, what would it be?
Why did Jesus live in an obscure part of the Roman Empire? Why wouldn't he go to Rome, enlighten the Emperor and abolish slavery etc?
If he could turn water into wine, why did he only have 12 apostles following him around?
Quote from: u196533 on May 13, 2016, 02:01:37 PM
Why did Jesus live in an obscure part of the Roman Empire? Why wouldn't he go to Rome, enlighten the Emperor and abolish slavery etc?
If he could turn water into wine, why did he only have 12 apostles following him around?
The number 12 is prevalent in all three monotheisms, Buddhism and also way earlier in ancient mythology.
http://www.humanreligions.info/twelve.html
it all stems from the 12 signs of the Zodiac, the 12 months of the year. Jesus is just the latest SUN god and the # 12 in the NT is stolen like everything else in it.
Quote from: Randy Carson on May 12, 2016, 05:10:36 PM
Resolved: God's actions in the Old Testament reveal Him to be a moral monster.
You have the affirmative. I will take the opposite position and explain and defend God's actions.
My only request (since I have a lot of threads to maintain) is that we address one point at a time. IOW, I'm not interested in responding to a single post referencing the flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, the "genocide" of the Canaanites, etc. I don't care what example you choose, but I do ask that we address one at a time.
Agreed? Is the resolution satisfactory to you?
But you know, I'd also like to ask you this: Is your concern really about the behavior of God in the OT or are you troubled by something much deeper like why there is so much suffering in the world?
Those are two different discussions.
Randy,
First thing, may I enlighten you to not disrespect your primitive Iron and Bronze Age god named Yahweh? When you speak of this brutal monster, you erroneously use the term “god†instead of using his first given name of “Yahweh.†As you’re historically aware, in the primitive Bronze and Iron Age many gods existed and ruled different territories and their nations owed allegiance to whichever god protected them; Zeus, Mithra, Horus, et al. The Old Testament mentions other gods as existing in a Henotheistic way as you worship the Hebrew god. So, I will meet your condition of one topic at a time, if you accept my condition that you use the name of your serial killer god of “Yahweh†out of respect to continue our discussion.
YOUR QUOTE: “Resolved: God's actions in the Old Testament reveal Him to be a moral monster.â€
RANDY CARSON FACT: You are a Catholic
CATHOLIC FACT: The divinity of Christ as being Yahweh god is an essential teaching of the Catholic faith.
BIBLICAL AXIOM AS JESUS BEING YAHWEH: “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.†(1 Timothy 3:16)
Randy, since you admit that your Hebrew Christian Yahweh of the Old Testament was a moral monster, and the fact that you’re a Catholic, and that Jesus is Yahweh god, then the simple logical deduction is the blatant fact that you’ve called your Jesus character a moral monster! Therefore, you’ve called the holy spirit part of Jesus’ triune as Yahweh, as mentioned in 1 Timothy 3:16 above, a moral monster, therefore you’ve committed the unpardonable sin!!!
UNPARDONABLE SIN: “Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come†(Matthew 12:31-32)
Now, if you’re able to continue, knowing that you’ve blasphemed your Yahweh god as Jesus by calling him a “moral monster,†where you’re now headed for the burning sulfur lakes of Hell upon your demise, get your latest Catholic apologetic books out and spin yourself into a pretzel in how the Catholic reconciles Jesus being ever loving and forgiving subsequent to him being Yahweh god that initiated the Great Flood that drowned his entire creation. Additionally, killing INNOCENT zygotes, fetus,’ and babies through his abortion killings in an horrific death!
YOU MAY BEGIN.
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Quote from: Gerard on May 13, 2016, 03:15:07 PM
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Gerard
Gerard,
Okay, no more "RANDY REMAINS SILENT ON THIS!" Is this acceptable now?
BTW, where is Randy because he has some 'splainin' to do!
Quote from: 21CIconoclast on May 13, 2016, 03:20:04 PM
Gerard,
Okay, no more "RANDY REMAINS SILENT ON THIS!" Is this acceptable now?
BTW, where is Randy because he has some 'splainin' to do!
You'll better find out where he is then.
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