I hear so much about these hyper sjws, but when I literally actively seek to find them where everyone says they're at, I never find any?
Visit the feminist department at a local college ;-)
You're sure to find a few at a feminist rally or black lives matter protest.
It must be a myth perpetrated by white patriarchs.
They're scared by your big intersectional booty! :mrgreen:
Quote from: Jannabear on March 30, 2016, 06:37:09 AM
I hear so much about these hyper sjws, but when I literally actively seek to find them where everyone says they're at, I never find any?
Everydayfeminism, the mary sue, jezebel, tumblrinaction, search their buzzwords on google? Search for the neon colored hair chicks with fake rayban glasses at women studies classes and ask them if they wanna make america great again?
You can also try being jewish while wearing dreds in san francisco state university.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=jDlQ4H0Kdg8&t=
I hear more about extreme SJWs from the US then i do here in the uk, and where i live I've never seen anyone fitting the description. Maybe there would be more in unis and colleges here, but in that case the most extreme worsts of humanity seems to manifest in those places, before they get out into the real world and realize humanity won't just tolerate their bullshit extremist povs,
Quote from: Jannabear on March 30, 2016, 06:37:09 AM
I hear so much about these hyper sjws, but when I literally actively seek to find them where everyone says they're at, I never find any?
The thing is, whenever the media highlights outlandish individuals being overly sensitive and irrational, people assume it's a mounting problem.
You might read a ditty about a student asking for a trigger warning for Greek mythology or a small group demanding a "safe space" and extrapolate that to mean literally every college student in America is a sensitive whiney baby.
Same goes for feminists. There are some every so often who would seek to arrest men for staring at boobs or demand we change the spelling of the word "women" to "womyn" so it doesn't include that disgusting word "men." Then we just sort of assume all feminists are this way, because a story about a woman who likes to freebleed and sued her male boss for oppression when he asked her to use a sanitary pad and stop making all the office furniture look like a crime scene and showed up on Reddit.
Currently there's a trending story on the social media verse about a black woman who assaulted a white man with dreads for "appropriating her culture" and now there are plenty of people wanting to know why "all black people are like that." Which will soon be followed by some hashtag proclaiming #NotAllBlackPeople or some such, which will be further misinterpreted by others to mean Black Power, and before you know it people are screaming words in all caps like "Black Panthers" and "reverse racism" and no one will fucking get the point.
So why is it you can't find SJWs? They're supposed to be everywhere, right? All liberals are SJWs, and I know a lot of liberals so I'm not supposed to be able to swing a dead cat without hitting one, right?
Or maybe we make mountains out of molehills and let the media (social and conventional) tell us these are actual problems when often they are isolated events. The world has always had crazy, misguided, and entitled people, but like a self-styled McCarthyism, we see them everywhere because the same story is being shared millions of times per hour.
Quote from: TomFoolery on March 30, 2016, 08:19:30 PM
The thing is, whenever the media highlights outlandish individuals being overly sensitive and irrational, people assume it's a mounting problem.
You might read a ditty about a student asking for a trigger warning for Greek mythology or a small group demanding a "safe space" and extrapolate that to mean literally every college student in America is a sensitive whiney baby.
Same goes for feminists. There are some every so often who would seek to arrest men for staring at boobs or demand we change the spelling of the word "women" to "womyn" so it doesn't include that disgusting word "men." Then we just sort of assume all feminists are this way, because a story about a woman who likes to freebleed and sued her male boss for oppression when he asked her to use a sanitary pad and stop making all the office furniture look like a crime scene and showed up on Reddit.
Currently there's a trending story on the social media verse about a black woman who assaulted a white man with dreads for "appropriating her culture" and now there are plenty of people wanting to know why "all black people are like that." Which will soon be followed by some hashtag proclaiming #NotAllBlackPeople or some such, which will be further misinterpreted by others to mean Black Power, and before you know it people are screaming words in all caps like "Black Panthers" and "reverse racism" and no one will fucking get the point.
So why is it you can't find SJWs? They're supposed to be everywhere, right? All liberals are SJWs, and I know a lot of liberals so I'm not supposed to be able to swing a dead cat without hitting one, right?
Or maybe we make mountains out of molehills and let the media (social and conventional) tell us these are actual problems when often they are isolated events. The world has always had crazy, misguided, and entitled people, but like a self-styled McCarthyism, we see them everywhere because the same story is being shared millions of times per hour.
This is true. But you should not understemitate the toxicity and contagiousness of this ideas. Firstly most SJWs are millenials so if you are of an older generation and do not hang with milleanials specially in art or humanities fields you will hardly see them in all their glory. From my facebook friends that are around a 100 there are 7 of them that regularly post shitty articles from everydayfeminism and the like. This started in the last few years and has reached what i hope is it's peak this year. Also this is in a country which i assume is much less steeped into this ideologies than places like europe or america. Then there's the creepy cult like mentality some of them develop. I have personally seen friendships end because someone had the "wrong" opinions, meaning not agreeing completely with their socjus ideas, even if the disagreements were pretty mild the SJW assumed disagreeing meant this person was not only wrong but also a bad person therefore he/she should not be associate with anymore. The process described in this video and that thread i have seen happen twice in real life in the last year. I have also seen one guy stop being a SJW after various arguments recognizing he was being too aggressive in his ideolgy and is now much more open minded and chill when discussing social issues.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=74e20ilsAQo
https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2jueda/just_lost_an_old_friend_over_all_this/
https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/4c5qfe/question_friend_is_a_huge_sjw_claims_gamergate_is/
https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/34yffz/as_an_ex_sjw/
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You mean, this could all be just bullshit hyped up by MRA vloggers selling their sexual frustrations, anger and bruised egos online to make money and fame?
It's NOT a real problem?! :eek: What are we going to do?!
I went on a date a year or so back with one... it made me feel sick lol
Someday I may meet one. I am so excited.
The crazy feminazis are getting invited to the UN and getting hired by Twitter to be a part of their censorship committee. These feminazis are succeeding in getting the censorship that they want, so when someone says these people are not a real problem, I'm going to have to disagree.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on March 31, 2016, 02:28:44 PM
I went on a date a year or so back with one... it made me feel sick lol
I went on a date with a guy years ago, who despite that one of his hands was not fully formed and he had somewhat of a learning difficulty, it wasn't that which was unappealing, it was the fact he was a monk and bell ringer, and he dedicated his life to god, that was the thing that made me not have a second date. I think I saved him from any heartache given it would have come down not wanting a threesome with his god between us.
Quote from: Munch on March 31, 2016, 04:48:14 PM
I went on a date with a guy years ago, who despite that one of his hands was not fully formed and he had somewhat of a learning difficulty, it wasn't that which was unappealing, it was the fact he was a monk and bell ringer, and he dedicated his life to god, that was the thing that made me not have a second date. I think I saved him from any heartache given it would have come down not wanting a threesome with his god between us.
Jesus. I think that is the thing that irks me the most about the idea of having a relationship with a person that is religious. I don't think I would mind someone that believes in a god, but if they have a priority of their imaginary friend over even themselves and reality, that's where I would have a problem.
Just imagine that it was made illegal to report bad news. OMG! Reporters would all become unemployed over night so they would have to start making up bad news.. They do that anyway when they can't find enough bad news to report.
They're like zombies..Everyone has heard of zombies, but has anyone actually ever seen a real zombie? Ok, there's Donald Trump and Ted Cruz, but other than them....?
Quote from: PickelledEggs on March 31, 2016, 02:28:44 PM
I went on a date a year or so back with one... it made me feel sick lol
MRAs or SJWs, by the OP description a hyper one, are people I wouldn't want to spend an hour with as the mythic internet definitions and encounters go and you went on a date with one?
Why did you do it? She had beer coming out of her nipples? Owned a pizzeria?
See, this is why the whole thing is actually nothing but a hyperbolic teenager whinning. At one hand these people are supposed to be a threat to society, just because of them the political ideas are getting re-written, people shit on western intellectualism, western values are at stake, gaming world is at stake....this and that BUT in the end, in real life they are people someone like you -that is a compliment in case you cannot recognise- go on a date.
This is more about for analysing the culture you guys live in. I can't believe how this is seen as an issue. Seriously, thing smust be very boring there...but it doesn't really seem that way either. I have no idea.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on March 31, 2016, 07:46:00 PM
MRAs or SJWs, by the OP description a hyper one, are people I wouldn't want to spend an hour with as the mythic internet definitions and encounters go and you went on a date with one?
Why did you do it? She had beer coming out of her nipples? Owned a pizzeria?
See, this is why the whole thing is actually nothing but a hyperbolic teenager whinning. At one hand these people are supposed to be a threat to society, just because of them the political ideas are getting re-written, people shit on western intellectualism, western values are at stake, gaming world is at stake....this and that BUT in the end, in real life they are people someone like you -that is a compliment in case you cannot recognise- go on a date.
This is more about for analysing the culture you guys live in. I can't believe how this is seen as an issue. Seriously, thing smust be very boring there...but it doesn't really seem that way either. I have no idea.
I didn't know until we were on the date. I went out with her because she had a beautiful face, but she was so feminist that it kind of leaked in to our conversations... she even said she thought that it was stupid that there are "meninists" which isn't even a real thing. It was a joke term that feminists take seriously. Between that and the fact that I couldn't eat for the entirety of the date without her telling me about how bad of a person I was for eating something containing/remotely having anything to do with animals (she was also a vegan) it was a no way for me to even consider asking her out again. Too bad though... she was really pretty otherwise and had a few other good things about her...
Quote from: FaithIsFilth on March 31, 2016, 03:22:19 PM
The crazy feminazis are getting invited to the UN and getting hired by Twitter to be a part of their censorship committee. These feminazis are succeeding in getting the censorship that they want, so when someone says these people are not a real problem, I'm going to have to disagree.
Pointing out the flaws in the ideas of certain feminists is neccesary because it is a pretty mainstream ideology currently and has good intentions so people can get carried away into implementing harmful things like the twitter committe, the UN report on "cyber violence", the proliferation of the duluth model, misreporting statistics like the wage gap in the "same job" or the 1 in 4 "rapes", discrimination on the basis of sex and race, etc. All those are flaws of feminist ideology which need to addressed to achieve a more egalitarian society. This can only be a good thing. Opposing the refinement of femnist ideology through rational criticism is nonsensical and so is it's dismissal without proper engagement with the arguments.
Rationality is mansplaining anyway ;-))
Quote from: PickelledEggs on March 31, 2016, 08:05:32 PM
I didn't know until we were on the date. I went out with her because she had a beautiful face, but she was so feminist that it kind of leaked in to our conversations... she even said she thought that it was stupid that there are "meninists" which isn't even a real thing. It was a joke term that feminists take seriously. Between that and the fact that I couldn't eat for the entirety of the date without her telling me about how bad of a person I was for eating something containing/remotely having anything to do with animals (she was also a vegan) it was a no way for me to even consider asking her out again. Too bad though... she was really pretty otherwise and had a few other good things about her...
LOL OK I get it.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on March 31, 2016, 07:46:00 PM
MRAs or SJWs, by the OP description a hyper one, are people I wouldn't want to spend an hour with as the mythic internet definitions and encounters go and you went on a date with one?
Why did you do it? She had beer coming out of her nipples? Owned a pizzeria?
See, this is why the whole thing is actually nothing but a hyperbolic teenager whinning. At one hand these people are supposed to be a threat to society, just because of them the political ideas are getting re-written, people shit on western intellectualism, western values are at stake, gaming world is at stake....this and that BUT in the end, in real life they are people someone like you -that is a compliment in case you cannot recognise- go on a date.
This is more about for analysing the culture you guys live in. I can't believe how this is seen as an issue. Seriously, thing smust be very boring there...but it doesn't really seem that way either. I have no idea.
First off, don't even attempt to say mras are near as bad as sjws, mras are usually pretty liberal minded people who address actual issues, I don't like it if someone's an mra in a country for inequalities for both, but still, they address actual issues and are typically mature people.
Sjws never address actual issues, they're detrimental to the movements they claim to support, and they're immature brats most of the time.
The main thing I hate about sjws is that I can't have an open discussion with them, and they hurt all of the movements I take seriously, sjws have shit on trans rights movements because they're turned it from a serious movement into stupid shit like
"I WANT TO BE CALLED ZI ZIM AND PINEAPPLE"
They WAAAAAAAY OVERREACT to being misgendered if they're trans themself, or if someone else is misgendered, and this is coming from a transgender person.
They don't defend their positions, instead they just act like the pc police silencing opposing opinions, when someone asks me why I'm for trans rights and why it should be taken seriously I defend my positions, I don't cower like a fucking idiot.
Black lives matter, a movement that should be addressing police brutality from the ground up, is taking the approach of being the pc police and not arguing their points.
Black lives matter isn't taking into account any of the nuances regarding police brutality, they aren't addressing the culture that surrounds police, and the poverty, and other factors.
They turned a serious movement to end police brutality into a joke.
Sjws censor people.
If you don't believe me go look at how many have been involved in meetings at the UN basically arguing that any mean comments should be censored.
Go look at the shadowbanning going on on twitter, some of which is being done from sjws.
Go look at the rhetoric of sjws in fucking general.
I love your pathetic mocking way you speak "See, this is why the whole thing is actually nothing but a hyperbolic teenager whinning"
They aren't just doing the damage they intend to do, they're doing damage by ruining serious movements, they infiltrate all serious social movements and dismantle them with stupidity and political correctness.
Please shut the fuck up next time drunken, I've been hearing you defend sjws so many times on this site and I've yet to hear any coherent point other then stupid fucking mockery and mindless dribble.
Thanks.
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Honestly? Never met a SJW/Feminist, nor MRA. The closest I've come to any of that is a bartender who's transgender and a handful of gay friends.
It's not that I avoid SJWs/Feminists/MRAs, it's just we're so alone around here. We're so few people, in general. I feel so alone sometimes. We're only around 50,000 people here on the Faroes :(
Quote from: Sal1981 on April 01, 2016, 10:33:12 AM
Honestly? Never met a SJW/Feminist, nor MRA. The closest I've come to any of that is a bartender who's transgender and a handful of gay friends.
It's not that I avoid SJWs/Feminists/MRAs, it's just we're so alone around here. We're so few people, in general. I feel so alone sometimes. We're only around 50,000 people here on the Faroes :(
How are those "cod" pieces worn again? <sarc> You take the prize for living in the most unique place. If one is born on an island, do you ever get island fever?
Quote from: Shiranu on April 01, 2016, 09:32:29 AM
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An SJW's response to a rational argument.
I've been asked to not be so emotional and calm down with the personal insults, so I'll bite my tongue and not smart off about how hypocritical that disorganized, crying fest, personal attack spam train wreck of a post being called rational was.
Quote from: Sal1981 on April 01, 2016, 10:33:12 AM
Honestly? Never met a SJW/Feminist, nor MRA. The closest I've come to any of that is a bartender who's transgender and a handful of gay friends.
It's not that I avoid SJWs/Feminists/MRAs, it's just we're so alone around here. We're so few people, in general. I feel so alone sometimes. We're only around 50,000 people here on the Faroes :(
-You are not white, but you love to contribute to white male fake victimhood.
-You have never experienced anything with feminists and SJWs -highly likley women- but you are angry with them and you have certain opinions on their positions.
-You post and support gross extreme videos on 'regressive' left; how feminists and all kinds of SJW groups are about to wipe out the western world.
So you are basically full of shit.
Quote from: Jannabear on April 01, 2016, 09:00:23 AM
First off, don't even attempt to say mras are near as bad as sjws, mras are usually pretty liberal minded people who address actual issues, I don't like it if someone's an mra in a country for inequalities for both, but still, they address actual issues and are typically mature people.
Sjws never address actual issues, they're detrimental to the movements they claim to support, and they're immature brats most of the time.
The main thing I hate about sjws is that I can't have an open discussion with them, and they hurt all of the movements I take seriously, sjws have shit on trans rights movements because they're turned it from a serious movement into stupid shit like
"I WANT TO BE CALLED ZI ZIM AND PINEAPPLE"
They WAAAAAAAY OVERREACT to being misgendered if they're trans themself, or if someone else is misgendered, and this is coming from a transgender person.
They don't defend their positions, instead they just act like the pc police silencing opposing opinions, when someone asks me why I'm for trans rights and why it should be taken seriously I defend my positions, I don't cower like a fucking idiot.
Black lives matter, a movement that should be addressing police brutality from the ground up, is taking the approach of being the pc police and not arguing their points.
Black lives matter isn't taking into account any of the nuances regarding police brutality, they aren't addressing the culture that surrounds police, and the poverty, and other factors.
They turned a serious movement to end police brutality into a joke.
Sjws censor people.
If you don't believe me go look at how many have been involved in meetings at the UN basically arguing that any mean comments should be censored.
Go look at the shadowbanning going on on twitter, some of which is being done from sjws.
Go look at the rhetoric of sjws in fucking general.
I love your pathetic mocking way you speak "See, this is why the whole thing is actually nothing but a hyperbolic teenager whinning"
They aren't just doing the damage they intend to do, they're doing damage by ruining serious movements, they infiltrate all serious social movements and dismantle them with stupidity and political correctness.
Please shut the fuck up next time drunken, I've been hearing you defend sjws so many times on this site and I've yet to hear any coherent point other then stupid fucking mockery and mindless dribble.
Thanks.
I will always defend SJWs when needed and also critcise them when it is called for it. I am perfectly aware of their rhetoric. are you aware of MRA's rhetoric? Does it matter?
There are various kinds SJWs that were born out of real life circumstances. There is only one kind of SJW group which is a reaction ot these groups' reactions: MRAs Translation: They are fucked by definition. It's NOT real. It could be one day, but not now.I am not an angry kid with a developing character or a sexual identity, who gets her opinions from social media ithout any RL experiences, kiddo. I am not depressed about the issue, it is not my identity or voice. I see this as a black comedy. And this issue, people like you,
Sal,
marucio,
Nonsensei and a few others deserve a good measure of mockery with what you all are writing about it.
But still the funniest part of your post is you telling someone to be coherent. :lol:
When I read the thread title, I thought this would be a discussion of Fermi's paradox.
Oh well... :embarrassed:
Neutrinos are Italian voters who belong to no party ;-)
I'll just leave this here.
[spoiler]Poe's Law is in effect.[/spoiler]
Quote from: drunkenshoe on April 02, 2016, 01:32:17 PM
I will always defend SJWs when needed and also critcise them when it is called for it. I am perfectly aware of their rhetoric. are you aware of MRA's rhetoric? Does it matter?
There are various kinds SJWs that were born out of real life circumstances. There is only one kind of SJW group which is a reaction ot these groups' reactions: MRAs Translation: They are fucked by definition. It's NOT real. It could be one day, but not now.
I am not an angry kid with a developing character or a sexual identity, who gets her opinions from social media ithout any RL experiences, kiddo. I am not depressed about the issue, it is not my identity or voice. I see this as a black comedy. And this issue, people like you, Sal, marucio, Nonsensei and a few others deserve a good measure of mockery with what you all are writing about it.
But still the funniest part of your post is you telling someone to be coherent. :lol:
I'm done speaking to you permanently, I've never heard anything even close to a coherent attempt at criticism, I hear logical fallacies and condescending mockery.
If you want to actually address people's points then go ahead, otherwise just fuck off of this site, you're not contributing by stupid shit like "I see this as a black comedy. And this issue, people like you,
Sal,
marucio,
Nonsensei and a few others deserve a good measure of mockery with what you all are writing about it."
When we're trying to actually discuss this.
Quote from: Shiranu on April 02, 2016, 12:22:56 PM
I've been asked to not be so emotional and calm down with the personal insults, so I'll bite my tongue and not smart off about how hypocritical that disorganized, crying fest, personal attack spam train wreck of a post being called rational was.
ME NO LIKE CRITICISM, ME THINK CRITICISM BAD, ME DECIDE TO CALL IT BAD SO ME NO ADDRESS, ME SMART, U DUM.
Fuck me.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on April 02, 2016, 01:11:01 PM
-You are not white, but you love to contribute to white male fake victimhood.
Last I checked no demographic has a monopoly on being unfairly treated, even if some are more oftenly treated unfairly.
-You have never experienced anything with feminists and SJWs -highly likley women- but you are angry with them and you have certain opinions on their positions.
We're experiencing you right now.
-You post and support gross extreme videos on 'regressive' left; how feminists and all kinds of SJW groups are about to wipe out the western world.
What the hell are you talking about.
-So you are basically full of shit.
Nou.
Quote from: Jannabear on April 03, 2016, 03:43:09 PM
ME NO LIKE CRITICISM, ME THINK CRITICISM BAD, ME DECIDE TO CALL IT BAD SO ME NO ADDRESS, ME SMART, U DUM.
Fuck me.
A witty and rational response, full of on topic remarks and void of emotive and insulting attacks. Good thing adhering to that standard is applied to everyone and not just people we disagree with.
Quote from: Shiranu on April 03, 2016, 04:12:57 PM
A witty and rational response, full of on topic remarks and void of emotive and insulting attacks. Good thing adhering to that standard is applied to everyone and not just people we disagree with.
You gave me no criticism to fucking address, what the fuck.
It's like if I'm debating someone then I go UR A FuKIN RETARD FAGOT, and they're like you're being pretty childish, and I'm just like WOW I THOUGHT WE WEREN'T PERSONALLY ATTACKING PEOPLE WTF MAN, that's literally what you're doing here.
Quote from: Jannabear on April 03, 2016, 04:17:54 PM
You gave me no criticism to fucking address, what the fuck.
It's like if I'm debating someone then I go UR A FuKIN RETARD FAGOT, and they're like you're being pretty childish, and I'm just like WOW I THOUGHT WE WEREN'T PERSONALLY ATTACKING PEOPLE WTF MAN, that's literally what you're doing here.
Protip: Since my original post was a response to your shit-fest of a response that no one called (and several liked), your correct I didn't give you a criticism to address since it was pointless and frankly aimed more at other people rather than you yourself. Although in implying it was a shitfest, I guess that is in itself a criticism, but one I really didn't expect to be addressed. Really it's more an underhanded and tongue-in-cheek remark about how your posts are considered "rational" and you are never called on being "emotional" by certain people yet when other people who disagree with "the norm" in a post lacking even a quarter of the disorganization, yelling and personal attacks it is discredited as being "emotional".
Tl;dr: Hypocrisy (not from you), "emotional" buzzword that only applies to people we disagree with.
Quote from: kilodelta on April 03, 2016, 01:22:53 AM
I'll just leave this here.
[spoiler]Poe's Law is in effect.[/spoiler]
You have inflicted more pain on me with that video than I have felt in some time.
Quote from: Nonsensei on April 03, 2016, 04:57:39 PM
You have inflicted more pain on me with that video than I have felt in some time.
Did you read the spoiler? It turns groans into laughs.
Quote from: kilodelta on April 03, 2016, 04:59:27 PM
Did you read the spoiler? It turns groans into laughs.
Yeah i knew it was fake. It still hurt.