Bunch of crazy shit and retarded people around. America you are truly providing great entertainment. I used to feel bad about how backwards the political scene is in my country compared to the first world but shit you are getting there eith this trump vs anti trump clashes. Anti trump guys wearing kkk hoods and one of them getting the shit kicked out of him by a pro trump black guy? The fuck is going on here this is some sad and funny shit.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N0Bd--ASXL8&ebc=ANyPxKogunIEzI5ENqsFrllAtWBq0l1ZudX0F9W65E5Ob0eFEIqGTdZ0gE5Xw6QnyouATR7NRId-u_kDM9KfRcHqCopAmltNbg
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t9-9xnH7fac
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3500933/Yet-Trump-rally-ends-violence-Protester-punched-kicked-woman-wears-KKK-hood-Donald-s-campaign-manager-appears-grab-man-collar.html
Lol at the girl taking the hood right off after her partner got the shit beaten out of him by the black guy. Maybe it was not a good idea to be so edgy lol.
Also lol at the "that's attempted murder!"
Is this normal on the states? Or this just one crazy ass election?
The anti-Trump protestors believe in violently opposing all whom they dislike, apparently. It's definitely not "normal," and it's frightening to think that certain groups are so hateful and fearful of differing political views.
Hollywood ... it's always Hollywood ... that and 15 minutes of Andy Warhol fame. Why do you think we invented the "Selfie" and "Twerking"?
How to explain the USA? Well in Hollywood, nothing is as it seems ... so thru that lens, trying to understand the USA as a foreigner must be very difficult.
Trump is a D disguised as an R
Hillary is an R disguised as a D
Bernie is an I disguised as a D
Cruz is a C disguised as an R
C = Canadian/Cuban
All the elections are fake, like when Mexico elected that Austrian Archduke as King. Maximilian must have had the media all over that, glittering clothing .. it was Yuuge! Think of the politicians as pawns ... particularly General Powell wannabes like Obama. The real power hides in the open, like the puppet masters in Bunraku. And the audience is part of the art ... we have to suspend disbelief, even if we have to contort our heads into our asses. Suspending disbelief ... particularly to people who come to this forum ... is a huge mistake ... because if you will believe in absurdities (free lunch) then you will also commit atrocities (Libya/Syria/Ukraine).
While at Bernie's rallies it's nothing short of collectivism and with songs of "This land is your land", lol
Quote from: Sal1981 on March 20, 2016, 01:18:46 PM
While at Bernie's rallies it's nothing short of collectivism and with songs of "This land is your land", lol
That has a long tradition from the 1930s and FDR administrations. People who hated FDR then, are still wrong now. But this isn't a potentially Left leaning country like we were in the 1930s ... we are all good Nazis now.
Quote from: The Atheist on March 20, 2016, 05:22:46 AM
The anti-Trump protestors believe in violently opposing all whom they dislike, apparently. It's definitely not "normal," and it's frightening to think that certain groups are so hateful and fearful of differing political views.
The trump supporters do not seem to find it so difficult to beat the shit out of their opponents either. I mainly post this shit to balance the anti-trump bias in this forum so people do not get completely blind to the stench of their "allies" in their fight against their common enemy The Donald. By watching this videos you can see both sides of the clashes acting like shitheads and using low quality rhetoric to defend their positions.
Quote from: mauricio on March 20, 2016, 03:35:21 AM
Is this normal on the states? Or this just one crazy ass election?
Absolutely not normal. And there's nothing funny or entertaining about it.
Quote from: mauricio on March 20, 2016, 03:12:45 PM
The trump supporters do not seem to find it so difficult to beat the shit out of their opponents either. I mainly post this shit to balance the anti-trump bias in this forum so people do not get completely blind to the stench of their "allies" in their fight against their common enemy The Donald. By watching this videos you can see both sides of the clashes acting like shitheads and using low quality rhetoric to defend their positions.
Exactly. It makes me sick to my stomach that the least common denominator is what is in the forefront, and is what reaches people. I know we are more civilized than this. It is profoundly embarrassing to me as an American. This is not who we are.
Quote from: Mermaid on March 20, 2016, 04:08:25 PM
Absolutely not normal. And there's nothing funny or entertaining about it.
Its funny in the sense of watching the world burn and kicking back to enjoy a cold beer while watching the fireworks. My impotence of not being able to make any significant change in this people's minds, makes that attitude the most bearable one. The other option is depression and doom. Is not just about trump and USA it's the whole world. It's also myself. It might even be the homo sapiens itself.
People are angry. Both sides are venemous. When people from opposite sides who percieve each other as enemies come 'head to head' the escalation is inevitable and very easy to come. I have a few experiences with protests ending in violence. Main reason why I have stopped joining any EVER AGAIN. Things get out of hand so sudden, so easily in that 'heat' you don't even get what is happening. It is a terrible experience.
The crazy thing is those people do not even recognise the reality of situation they are in. Yeah I mean it. That's the herd psychology of that situation.
The worst thing to happen would be this violence spreading out of election rallies and turn into random clashes between two groups. :sad2: Please, NO.
I guess I feel sort of disgusted by all of it. As much as I hate Trump, I'm still against blocking his rallies so long as he's not literally forming a lynch mobs (though many of his supporters have taken it upon themselves). Freedom of speech and peaceful assembly apply to all, even those with whom I disagree.
Now, I fully understand that the first amendment only means the government can't interfere with your speech and peaceful assembly, and that it does nothing to keep private citizens from noticing and reacting to such speech or assemblies. Got it.
But the right to assemble doesn't give anyone the right to break the law in such ways as blocking traffic or entrance to businesses or forums. Using the right to free speech as an excuse to deprive others of theirs, even if I flat out despise the message and the people, is hypocritical and a gross miscarriage and misrepresentation of our liberties.
Quote from: mauricio on March 20, 2016, 04:15:34 PM
Its funny in the sense of watching the world burn and kicking back to enjoy a cold beer while watching the fireworks. My impotence of not being able to make any significant change in this people's minds, makes that attitude the most bearable one. The other option is depression and doom. Is not just about trump and USA it's the whole world. It's also myself. It might even be the homo sapiens itself.
marucio, what are you doing to yourself? Are you mad? You can just help a few people for the most in your entire life, contribute to the society and that is it. Changing minds or doom... It doesn't work that way. Playing the Atlas does not have a good end. Lighten up. Protect yourself. There is no such burden. World will burn down and get founded over and over again.
I just had a terrible thought. What if somebody tries to shoot him? Offf. That would be a catasthrophe. It is the right word I guess.
Been done. Reagan got a warning. And Ford twice before him. Carter was scared off by an overly aggressive rabbit, but that was before he was elected. Didn't know rabbits worked for the CIA. Overly sexy interns tried to destroy Clinton, and sabotaged pretzels sent a message to Shrub. So far Obama has been safe, but that is because everyone is afraid of a potential President Biden.
Do you really think it would be the same, if somebody tries to shoot Trump in this climate?
Quote from: drunkenshoe on March 20, 2016, 04:54:34 PM
I just had a terrible thought. What if somebody tries to shoot him? Offf. That would be a catasthrophe. It is the right word I guess.
If they fail to kill him, he wins. If he dies, someone even worse comes along by 2020.
Fair and balanced (like Fox News).
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on March 20, 2016, 07:05:43 PM
If they fail to kill him, he wins. If he dies, someone even worse comes along by 2020.
You mean like Cruz?
Somebody trying to shoot Drumpf doesn't have some brief aftermath of another one being elected if he is dead or win if he lives.
I am talking about people. People are getting more radical and angry. There could be mass shootings. Or worse, they could start attacking each other in streets in groups regularly. Things can escalate badly. It's not a far fetched scenario.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on March 20, 2016, 06:48:27 PM
Do you really think it would be the same, if somebody tries to shoot Trump in this climate?
You weren't in the US in the 60s, or old enough to remember it. It has been done, the US survived the 60s ... we even had better music then (though it was part British ;-). America is merely returning to its revolutionary roots ... remember the Tea Party genius with the "moran" sign?
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on March 20, 2016, 07:05:43 PM
If they fail to kill him, he wins. If he dies, someone even worse comes along by 2020.
Fair and balanced (like Fox News).
He might even arrange to get himself shot ... it only hurts when he laughs all the way to the voting booth.
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on March 20, 2016, 07:11:27 PM
You mean like Cruz?
Yeah--now that scares the shit right out of me! Cruz is very, very dangerous--he is a religious idiot who wants to imposed his idiocy on the rest of the country.
Quote from: Baruch on March 20, 2016, 07:29:38 PM
You weren't in the US in the 60s, or old enough to remember it. It has been done, the US survived the 60s ... we even had better music then (though it was part British ;-). America is merely returning to its revolutionary roots ... remember the Tea Party genius with the "moran" sign?
Baruch, whatever will happen now, it will be worse than what happened 55 years ago.
A handful of people getting beat up isn't exactly the same thing as say an entire section of the nation taking up arms and going to war with the government. Sure there are probably plenty of people who would love to have a nice sanitary civil war, but wars aren't really sanitary and many, many people get killed and even more end up suffering.
Strange how the people who might think that they might like a nice little war never realize or even think about what happens if they lose that nice little civil war. The chance of being treated very well go down exponentially and it can go on for generations to come.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on March 21, 2016, 09:09:20 AM
Baruch, whatever will happen now, it will be worse than what happened 55 years ago.
IDK..In the 60s there was no Facebook where the people getting their heads cracked open by Chicago's finest could hide in grandmas basement and pretend to be the toughest badest fuckers on the planet..Nope, back then people actually had to physically be there to get the night stick across their faces.. Now you can get your head bashed in in under 140 characters while ordering a latte at the Starbucks drive up window.. Now you have to go to extraordinary lengths and typing in ALL CAPS strikes fear into the hearts of your opponents..as long as you preface it with OMG!
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on March 21, 2016, 11:13:41 AM
IDK..In the 60s there was no Facebook where the people getting their heads cracked open by Chicago's finest could hide in grandmas basement and pretend to be the toughest badest fuckers on the planet..Nope, back then people actually had to physically be there to get the night stick across their faces.. Now you can get your head bashed in in under 140 characters while ordering a latte at the Starbucks drive up window.. Now you have to go to extraordinary lengths and typing in ALL CAPS strikes fear into the hearts of your opponents..as long as you preface it with OMG!
It's a good point. And there is more. There is MORE of everything now. More people, more problems (real or fake), more bullshit, more anger...etc.
Very true Shoe.. Today Elizabeth Warren laid into the loser Trump.. Pretty impressive if you ask me..
I just hope people are listening to her..
QuoteLet’s be honest â€" Donald Trump is a loser. Count all his failed businesses. See how he kept his father’s empire afloat by cheating people with scams like Trump University and by using strategic corporate bankruptcy (excuse me, bankruptcies) to skip out on debt. Listen to the experts who’ve concluded he’s so bad at business that he might have more money today if he’d put his entire inheritance into an index fund and just left it alone.
Trump seems to know he’s a loser. His embarrassing insecurities are on parade: petty bullying, attacks on women, cheap racism, and flagrant narcissism. But just because Trump is a loser everywhere else doesn’t mean he’ll lose this election. People have been underestimating his campaign for nearly a year â€" and it’s time to wake up.
People talk about how “this is the most important election†in our lifetime every four years, and it gets stale. But consider what hangs in the balance. Affordable college. Accountability for Wall Street. Healthcare for millions of Americans. The Supreme Court. Big corporations and billionaires paying their fair share of taxes. Expanded Social Security. Investments in infrastructure and medical research and jobs right here in America. The chance to turn our back on the ugliness of hatred, sexism, racism and xenophobia. The chance to be a better people.
More than anyone we’ve seen before come within reach of the presidency, Donald Trump stands ready to tear apart an America that was built on values like decency, community, and concern for our neighbors. Many of history’s worst authoritarians started out as losers â€" and Trump is a serious threat. The way I see it, it’s our job to make sure he ends this campaign every bit the loser that he started it.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/mar/21/us-election-2016-live-trump-clinton-sanders-cruz-kasich
QuoteListen to the experts who’ve concluded he’s so bad at business that he might have more money today if he’d put his entire inheritance into an index fund and just left it alone.
Lol'ed to this. Seriously?
Quote from: drunkenshoe on March 21, 2016, 01:48:47 PM
Lol'ed to this. Seriously?
Yeah. If he did nothing but put his inheritance into a fund and fingered his asshole for the next 40 years, he'd have about twice the money he has now. People act surprised he's so rich, but anyone can end up rich with a successful businessman for a father and 100 million bucks in inheritance.
Quote from: The Skeletal Atheist on March 21, 2016, 03:11:30 PM
Yeah. If he did nothing but put his inheritance into a fund and fingered his asshole for the next 40 years, he'd have about twice the money he has now. People act surprised he's so rich, but anyone can end up rich with a successful businessman for a father and 100 million bucks in inheritance.
And this man will make decisions about the economy of a country like United States of America? Great. It's like a nightmare getting more scary by the day.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on March 21, 2016, 03:33:04 PM
And this man will make decisions about the economy of a country like United States of America? Great. It's like a nightmare getting more scary by the day.
Nightmare? That's a kind word to use. Trump and Cruz are both batshit crazy scary!!!!
Quote from: Mike Cl on March 21, 2016, 04:07:26 PM
Nightmare? That's a kind word to use. Drumpf and Cruz are both batshit crazy scary!!!!
You haven't been to my nightmares.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on March 21, 2016, 04:20:39 PM
You haven't been to my nightmares.
That's true--don't like nightmares or batshit crazy.
Quote from: Mike Cl on March 21, 2016, 04:28:23 PM
That's true--don't like nightmares or batshit crazy.
yeah I have a complicated relationship with dreams and nightmares-esp. with sleep paralysis. You helped me big time in emptying my mind though. *Hugs.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on March 21, 2016, 04:34:17 PM
yeah I have a complicated relationship with dreams and nightmares-esp. with sleep paralysis. You helped me big time in emptying my mind though. *Hugs.
I am pleased to have served. :))
Quote from: drunkenshoe on March 21, 2016, 09:09:20 AM
Baruch, whatever will happen now, it will be worse than what happened 55 years ago.
Maybe, nobody knows. Claiming one knows is ... arrogant. It is more complicated than putting a gun to one's head ... I can make reasonable predictions about what happens if I pull the trigger. Not too many reasonable predictions if Nixon gets elected ... that is a matter of ideology, not epistemology. Things would not be pretty if I ruled with an iron fist using my ideology. I prefer to be anonymous, powerless, poor and modest. Not that I will inherit with the meek or anything like that.
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on March 21, 2016, 11:07:48 AM
A handful of people getting beat up isn't exactly the same thing as say an entire section of the nation taking up arms and going to war with the government. Sure there are probably plenty of people who would love to have a nice sanitary civil war, but wars aren't really sanitary and many, many people get killed and even more end up suffering.
Strange how the people who might think that they might like a nice little war never realize or even think about what happens if they lose that nice little civil war. The chance of being treated very well go down exponentially and it can go on for generations to come.
Exactly. The Confederates should have thought long and hard about the consequences of their actions, before they fired on Fort Sumpter. It was a trap laid for them by the wiley Abe.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on March 21, 2016, 11:55:23 AM
It's a good point. And there is more. There is MORE of everything now. More people, more problems (real or fake), more bullshit, more anger...etc.
Consumerist utopia ;-))
Quote from: drunkenshoe on March 21, 2016, 03:33:04 PM
And this man will make decisions about the economy of a country like United States of America? Great. It's like a nightmare getting more scary by the day.
The wealthy and powerful, who are often not smart at all, get to make all the decisions. Always been that way ... no need to pretend. The history of the Ottoman royal family is a case in point.