Pay attention to the race(s) in the group of people reacting to the scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KldFGgUTqKA
[I also didn't know that it is legal for 12 year old girls and 14 year old boys to get married in Massachusetts. I think Texas and Arizona follow with around 13-14.]
Back in the day, when marriage was about controlling matrilineal property ... child marriage was pretty important. Not so much these days. This is why the Pharaoh was always marrying his half-sister ... to keep the royal stuff in the family.
Certainly below the age of consent, or at least no lower than 18 by either party ... would be reasonable.
Gotta love how "social experiment" now pretty much just means " look at how i try to artificially create a viral video" now considering how shitty some of the social science papers i have read are, this may just be it's natural conclusion lol.
Quote from: Baruch on February 26, 2016, 12:39:06 PM
Back in the day, when marriage was about controlling matrilineal property ... child marriage was pretty important.
Shhh it never happened in the West.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on February 26, 2016, 09:51:10 AM
[I also didn't know that it is legal for 12 year old girls and 14 year old boys to get married in Massachusetts. I think Texas and Arizona follow with around 13-14.]
Source? Pretty sure all states are 18 and 16 with parental consent. Anything else is corrupt judges making invalid judgements.
Quote from: mauricio on February 26, 2016, 02:17:17 PM
Source? Pretty sure all states are 18 and 16 with parental consent. Anything else is corrupt judges making invalid judgements.
No shes right. With parental consent its 12 for girls and 14 for boys. Source is google search for age of marriage in Massachussets.
Strangely, the age of sexual consent in Massachussets is still 16 for females and 18 for males. Not sure how these two laws interact.
Hey it used to be 10 in the late 1800's.
Quote from: aitm on February 26, 2016, 06:52:29 PM
Hey it used to be 10 in the late 1800's.
Kinda like you!
Quote from: Nonsensei on February 26, 2016, 07:38:16 PM
Kinda like you!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_burn_centers_in_the_United_States
Quote from: mauricio on February 26, 2016, 02:05:39 PM
Gotta love how "social experiment" now pretty much just means " look at how i try to artificially create a viral video" now considering how shitty some of the social science papers i have read are, this may just be it's natural conclusion lol.
This is true. It did let me know (and probably a lot of other people) of this EXTREMELY outdated law that is still active in this country... and New York of all places... would have never expected that.
They need to drop all the existing laws, and start from scratch. The FBI is attacking cell phone privacy with a law from George Washington's first term. The last thing any legislature does, is work for a living.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on February 27, 2016, 01:36:56 AM
This is true. It did let me know (and probably a lot of other people) of this EXTREMELY outdated law that is still active in this country... and New York of all places... would have never expected that.
Yeah i found the law and read it, well the massachusets one. It was like reading english from hundreds of years ago. The law is probably very very old. I hope that like other old laws it is suspect in the eye of reasonable judges or superceded by a federal law. Like in japan you have age of consent at 12 or something in some places but that is superceded by a sort of federal law.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on February 26, 2016, 02:07:30 PM
Shhh it never happened in the West.
All information about [redacted] has been systematically exterminated from Western knowledge. Any attempt to reveal the truth will result in [DATA EXPUNGED], and those affected are to be administered Class C amnesiacs and kept under observation for 36 hours.
Pay attention to the race of the people reacting? Normally I'd agree, but why in this case? They're doing this in an urban setting where minority people are more plentiful, so you'd expect more minority reactions. If this was repeated in a suburban area you'd have more white reactions. The race of the people reacting isn't surprising at all, nor does it matter.
Quote from: mauricio on February 26, 2016, 02:17:17 PM
Source? Pretty sure all states are 18 and 16 with parental consent. Anything else is corrupt judges making invalid judgements.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_marriage_in_the_United_States
Texas, New Hampshire and Massachusetts.
http://www.tahirih.org/news/child-marriage-happens-in-the-u-s-too/
Virgina, Maryland and Texas
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/14/opinion/americas-child-marriage-problem.html?_r=0
As we have this issue in as a big one marrying officals HAVE A LEGAL right to intevrene and not to marry the girl if he/she observes something is wrong even she-he is over 18.
Majority is migrants but there are also American families apparently.
QuoteAmerca's child marriage problem
IN the United States today, thousands of children under 18 have recently taken marital vows â€" mostly girls married to adult men, often with approval from local judges. In at least one case, a 10-year-old boy was legally married.
How is this possible? The minimum marriage age in most states is 18, but every state allows exceptions under which children under age 18 can wed.
The first common exception is for children marrying with “parental consent.†Most states allow children age 16 or 17 to marry if their parents sign the marriage license application.
Of course, one person’s “parental consent†can be another’s “parental coercion,†but state laws typically do not call for anyone to investigate whether a child is marrying willingly. Even in the case of a girl’s sobbing openly while her parents sign the application and force her into marriage, the clerk usually has no authority to intervene. In fact, in most states there are no laws that specifically forbid forced marriage.
The second common marriage-age exception is for children marrying with judicial approval. This exception lowers the marriage age below 16 in many states, and many states do not specify a minimum age. Judges in those states can allow the marriage even of an elementary school student.
But judges would never do that, right?
Unchained at Last, a nonprofit I founded to help women escape from arranged, forced marriages, recently retrieved health department data on the ages of people married in New Jersey, where 16- and 17-year-olds may wed with parental consent, and children under 15 may marry with judicial approval.
Unfortunately, the available records do not include any identifying details about marriages beyond the ages of the participants. Nevertheless, the data show that 3,499 children were married in New Jersey between 1995 and 2012. Most were age 16 or 17 and married with parental consent, but 178 were between ages 10 and 15, meaning a judge approved their marriages.
Shockingly, 91 percent of the children were married to adults, often at ages or with age differences that could have triggered statutory-rape charges, not a marriage license. A judge in 2006 approved the marriage of a 10-year-old boy to an 18-year-old woman. A judge in 1996 allowed a 12-year-old girl to marry a 25-year-old man.
Based on my own experience working with forced-marriage victims across the United States, I am sure many of these children had to marry against their will. Forced marriage is a widespread but often ignored problem in the United States. A survey by the Tahirih Justice Center, an NGO that provides services to immigrant women and girls, identified as many as 3,000 known or suspected forced-marriage cases just between 2009 and 2011, many involving girls under age 18. Tactics used against the victims included threats of ostracism, beatings or death.
Forced and child marriages happen almost everywhere, yet only 10 states or jurisdictions have specific laws that can be used to prevent or punish forced marriage. The Tahirih survey focused on immigrants, and it identified child marriages or forced marriages, or both, in immigrant communities from 56 countries of origin in Africa, Asia, Europe and the Americas, but it also identified such marriage in so-called American families.
The survey found child marriage or forced marriage, or both, in families of many faiths, including Muslim, Christian (particularly Catholic), Hindu, Buddhist and Sikh. I have seen child and forced marriage in the Orthodox Jewish community, and I know survivors from Mormon and Unification Church backgrounds.
Parents give many reasons for forcing their children into marriage, including controlling the children’s sexuality and behavior and protecting “family honor.†Often families use forced marriage to enhance their status or gain economic security.
The New Jersey data show that 90 percent of the children married were girls, which is consistent with global trends. Across the world, child marriage and forced marriage disproportionately affect girls and women.
Unchained at Last also requested health department data on the ages of people recently married in New York State, where 16- and 17-year-olds may wed with “parental consent†and 14- and 15-year-olds may wed with judicial approval. The data show that 3,853 children were married between 2000 and 2010.
Data after 2010 excludes New York City, where statistics are kept separately. Still, the state data show that in 2011 alone, a 14-year-old married a 26-year-old, a 15-year-old was wed to a 28-year-old, another 15-year-old was wed to a 25-year-old and a 15-year-old married someone age “35 to 39.†All of those marriages were approved by New York judges.
Globally, 88 percent of countries set 18 as the minimum marriage age, but over half allow minor girls to marry with “parental consent,†according to the World Policy Center. More than 700 million women alive today were married before 18, including some 250 million who wed before 15, according to the United Nations Children’s Fund. Most live in South Asia or sub-Saharan Africa, but as these new numbers show, too many live right here in the United States.
Marriage is a legal contract and it should be reserved for adults. The dangers of child marriage are, after all, very clear: A recent report found that child marriage “undermines girls’ health, education and economic opportunities, and increases their risk of experiencing violence.â€
The solution is relatively simple. State legislators should eliminate the archaic legal exceptions that allow children to wed. This is the only way to end child and forced marriage in the United States.
I disagree with one premise of his; that it inherently steals their life from them. This implies that if they hadn't gotten married to an often richer older man they would have lived wonderful childhoods when that simply isn't the case when you look at what background these children have. Their life is lose/lose either way. While it's an issue that needs to be addressed... it's also just a small part of a much larger problem.
As for here in the U.S. ... yeah that shit needs to go.
http://www.examiner.com/article/8-year-old-yemeni-bride-raped-to-death-on-wedding-night
An 8-year-old Yemeni girl has become the latest victim of the Religion of Pieces. Harwan, the little girl, lived in the tribal area of Hardh in northwestern Yemen, near the Saudi border. Her family married Harwan to a bridegroom approximately five times as old as she was. He insisted on his marital rights on their wedding night.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVcfZEE7U2s
Quote from: PickelledEggs on February 28, 2016, 01:14:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVcfZEE7U2s
Oh my. :lol: "That woman is having her periiiod. That woman is having her perioooood."
Damn you PickelledEggs. I was about to post that!
Quote from: kilodelta on February 28, 2016, 01:18:16 PM
Damn you PickelledEggs. I was about to post that!
:fu: :lol: