Should I stay in Murica, or move to Canada, Uk, Norway, or Sweden.
If I moved to Uk I would be involved in marches to protest their shitty government.
you can make anywhere your personel heaven...
I would move to Norway, but I like the outdoors. For culture the UK.
By all means, move.
Moving isn't as easy as you think: everyone wants to live in these countries and they have rigorous entry and citizenship rules. Also, idealizing cultures at a distance doesn't help make up for culture shock and the fact that xenophobia exists everywhere. Many in those countries have preconceived ideas of Americans and many of those ideas aren't kind. Of course they won't outright hate you like they would in a Middle Eastern country for example, but it doesn't mean you'd be warmly welcomed.
In short, the grass is always greener on the other side.
Could be a good adventure to see that Europe is not what it looks like from across the pond. Esp. UK. The choices of countries you threw together are very different in many ways to choose from.
Norway or Sweeden are worlds away from UK-US and Canada is in between, closer to the US with better gender equality.If you want real change, move to Sweden or Norway.
A warning though. Sweeden and Norway are feminist countries. What pisses off you in the US which exists in little scale, is the already accepted social contract there. :lol:
Quote from: Jannabear on January 30, 2016, 07:25:02 AM
Should I stay in Murica, or move to Canada, Uk, Norway, or Sweden.
If I moved to Uk I would be involved in marches to protest their shitty government.
Our government might be shitty, but our fish and chips are delicious.
(http://i3.dailypost.co.uk/incoming/article7539163.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Seagull-Feed-2.jpg)
And then... there are the seagulls -_-
Quote from: Jannabear on January 30, 2016, 07:25:02 AM
Should I stay in Murica, or move to Canada, Uk, Norway, or Sweden.
Where do you live in America? I ask because some places are better than others. But if your spot is intolerable for whatever reason, by all means, move to someplace in America more to your liking.
Quote from: Munch on January 30, 2016, 09:30:45 AM
Our government might be shitty, but our fish and chips are delicious.
(http://i3.dailypost.co.uk/incoming/article7539163.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Seagull-Feed-2.jpg)
And then... there are the seagulls -_-
Imo, seagulls are only tolerable if they're actually by the sea. I saw some in a parking lot in Oklahoma devouring some trash and immediately started to regard them as a pest species.
There are land gulls ... but they are closely related to sea gulls.
I would think that Canada would be nice for trans folk ... but not if you were in the Western part (aside from BC). Ontario has the most culture, particularly Toronto. Montreal or Quebec City if you want a challenge.
Quote from: Munch on January 30, 2016, 09:30:45 AM
Our government might be shitty, but our fish and chips are delicious.
Our beer's pretty good too. :beer:
Quote from: Hydra009 on January 30, 2016, 10:30:22 AM
Imo, seagulls are only tolerable if they're actually by the sea. I saw some in a parking lot in Oklahoma devouring some trash and immediately started to regard them as a pest species.
They're known as flying rats around here. That said, if you lace their food with baking soda it reacts quite violently with the acid in their intestines and their guts come hurtling out of their ass as they are flying along. Fun for children of all ages. :13:
Are you running from something or to something? I find it better to run to something.
Travel to some of these places and visit more than the tourist areas.
I agree with GSO. Travel. Go to a variety of countries. Get a good amount of world experience. You'll then not have to ask people where you should live. You'll know.
Norway and Sweden hate foreigners. UK likes foreigners too much.
Go Canada, and just steer clear of the French speaking areas. Those French Canadians will piss in your mouth if you let on that you're American.
Quote from: Nonsensei on January 30, 2016, 11:46:12 PMGo Canada, and just steer clear of the French speaking areas. Those French Canadians will piss in your mouth if you let on that you're American.
They'll say sorry afterwards though, right? As someone distantly related to the quebecois, I have this (probably unrealistic) idea that they're super nice as long as you don't hate on hockey or maple syrup or insinuate that Ontario is better.
I experienced a good share of discrimination in Montreal. But if you go to British Columbia, it's not like that.
Quote from: Nonsensei on January 30, 2016, 11:46:12 PM
Norway and Sweden hate foreigners. UK likes foreigners too much.
Go Canada, and just steer clear of the French speaking areas. Those French Canadians will piss in your mouth if you let on that you're American.
A coworker of mine, who visited France ... he was bilingual in English/Spanish ... so when in France he always spoke in Spanish, and told French folks he was from Spain ;-) But I hear tell, the most annoying thing Anglophones are to Francophones, is we are obnoxious bores. Francophiles say that if you learn proper French etiquette, they are more forgiving of your mangling their language (aka you let them think that you admire everything French and wish you had been born that way ;-)
i live in saskatchewan... it's not so bad. weed is almost legalized..
Americans are subjected to a certain discrimination everywhere around the world. You are going to hear/experience something bad WHERE EVER you go, in certain places in the Europe, it is even going to be 'hostile' in the shape of white European stoicism. That's worse in long term than having a confrontation with someone about anything. It's freezing cold, solid condescension and what drives people crazy in many occassions.
Most Americans are not like this. If you speak their language and know their culture, it is easy to get along with them, get into their circles. This doesn't work with most Europeans and their culture. It's a fucking cast system. You would be welcome as much as you desire to be them, but know your place. :lol:
-Also you (Americans) won't be accepted anywhere near that you are used to see yourself in the hierarchy of the picture of the Western culture when you are in Europe.
The UK is not different, its social culture is far more tougher and hostile than yours. (Goes for Europe generally in comparison, imo) The perception of their culture they created is different than reality -like most things on this issue- and they are the best at it as the old wolf.
I'm not being obnoxious, most of you sound clueless of European culture(s) in general. I'd pick Americans -as in people- over the most of the Europeans any day, even though Europeans would agree with me on world politics in general, while Americans can't acknowledge the most of it.
Exceptions are just exceptions for both cultures, as they are for any others.
Quote from: Jannabear on January 30, 2016, 07:25:02 AM
Should I stay in Murica, or move to Canada, Uk, Norway, or Sweden.
If I moved to Uk I would be involved in marches to protest their shitty government.
Fuck that Shit. Let's go to Finland.
Or Denmark is a good choice.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on February 07, 2016, 05:52:43 AM
Americans are subjected to a certain discrimination everywhere around the world. You are going to hear/experience something bad WHERE EVER you go, in certain places in the Europe, it is even going to be 'hostile' in the shape of white European stoicism. That's worse in long term than having a confrontation with someone about anything. It's freezing cold, solid condescension and what drives people crazy in many occassions.
Let them say it to my face, pretty sure they will piss their pants
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on February 07, 2016, 06:09:11 AM
Let them say it to my face, pretty sure they will piss their pants
Naaah, they'll find it cute. :lol:
Quote from: drunkenshoe on February 07, 2016, 06:14:57 AM
Naaah, they'll find it cute. :lol:
I'm pretty sure I'm bigger and taller and a have an ill temper.
Not everyone is intimidated by big and tall especially when the big and tall person in question has the IQ of an empty toilet paper roll..
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on February 07, 2016, 09:43:02 PM
Not everyone is intimidated by big and tall especially when the big and tall person in question has the IQ of an empty toilet paper roll..
Must be some empty toilet paper roll if it has an Iq around 136
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on February 07, 2016, 09:23:24 PM
I'm pretty sure I'm bigger and taller and a have an ill temper.
We have a saying. "A man who has never been punched, thinks his own is a sledge hammer."
Ah young males. :lol: