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QuoteMotorists in Northern California have been dealing with a new kind of road hazard: Overly aggressive coyotes who may have consumed hallucinogenic mushrooms.
Pacific Sun reports that at least two coyotes have been staring down motorists on Highway 1 in Bolinas, a community in Marin County, and striding onto the road. When a driver stops to avoid hitting them, the coyotes usually sniff around the car before running off.
Experts have ruled out rabies, the paper reports, as the incidents have been going on for weeks and the disease would have killed the coyotes by now.
That leaves two other options: Either the animals are ingesting hallucinogenic mushrooms and tripping as they chase cars, or they have been fed by people in cars and are hoping for more food.
Lisa Bloch of the Marin Humane Society said she has had to warn dog owners about the fly agaric mushroom, a psychoactive mushroom that grows in the area. These coyotes may have stumbled on a stash.
Bloch also warned that motorists shouldn't feed coyotes as the animals could become accustomed to humans, then grow more aggressive. In such cases, the coyotes may have to be killed.
Assuming the coyotes aren't rabid- which produces aggressive behavior- there are some possibilities besides Psilocybin. One is Locoweed which is not invasive but an opportunistic plant that isn't easily recognized because it resembles other plants. Another is Jimson weed or Datura Stramonium, which is a known toxic plant- contains Scopolamine, which in higher doses in deadly.
locoweed is called that for a reason. Animals that consume it will get aggressive and hyperactive, so that is a possibility.
Lots of shit out in the desert can mess you up. Spent a lot of time in arid and desert regions and as per my survivalist background, I study plants in a region I frequent, just to know what is there. Locoweed and Jimson are both a potential agent. Wouldn't be surprised the coyotes are getting into some old hipsters garden and raiding his 'shrooms.
Coyotes are dicks. No more explanation needed.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 27, 2016, 10:09:37 AM
Coyotes are dicks. No more explanation needed.
No argument here. My only beef with coyotes is they are never in rifle range when I see them.
Coyotes must have watched regular dogs chasing cars with abandon. It's good clean fun, and many a dog will lay in wait along the roadside all day just to experience a few seconds of thrill. Maybe the thing just finally caught on among the local coyotes.
They took the cars to be roadrunners.. bleep, bleep....
Quote from: josephpalazzo on January 27, 2016, 10:19:57 AM
They took the cars to be roadrunners.. bleep, bleep....
You have to seriously impaired to mistake a car for a roadrunner.
Quote from: stromboli on January 27, 2016, 10:26:09 AM
You have to seriously impaired to mistake a car for a roadrunner.
When you're stoned, a car or a roadrunner, what's the difference?
Quote from: stromboli on January 27, 2016, 10:26:09 AM
You have to seriously impaired to mistake a car for a roadrunner.
Well, I'm not saying the mushrooms don't play a part.
Edit: Opps Palazzo scooped me.
I'm st
Quote from: SGOS on January 27, 2016, 10:29:08 AM
Well, I'm not saying the mushrooms don't play a part.
Edit: Opps Palazzo scooped me.
I'm still thinking there's an old hippie involved somehow. Or else a Yaqui brujo named Don Juan moved up from Mexico.
Quote from: stromboli on January 27, 2016, 10:11:37 AM
No argument here. My only beef with coyotes is they are never in rifle range when I see them.
Last Fall we got a team together and shot 115 of them in three days. Big fucking rats.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 27, 2016, 11:16:15 AM
Last Fall we got a team together and shot 115 of them in three days. Big fucking rats.
See, one more reason why there should be a total ban on firearms.
Quote from: josephpalazzo on January 27, 2016, 11:33:10 AM
See, one more reason why there should be a total ban on firearms.
Coyotes kill beavers. Beavers create wetlands. Fish, reptiles, birds, and mammals benefit from that type of area. One coyote can turn a verdant area into a weed patch in short order. They are an invasive species, like rats, and are as far from being endangered as humans are.
Besides, it's kind of cool to see their heads explode when they get a hollow-point in the back of the skull. Brains come out of their eye sockets.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 27, 2016, 11:47:30 AM
Coyotes kill beavers. Beavers create wetlands. Fish, reptiles, birds, and mammals benefit from that type of area. One coyote can turn a verdant area into a weed patch in short order. They are an invasive species, like rats, and are as far from being endangered as humans are.
Besides, it's kind of cool to see their heads explode when they get a hollow-point in the back of the skull. Brains come out of their eye sockets.
Coyotes have become city dwellers as well. Although coyotes are native to the west- the American equivalent to the Jackal-they are now seen all the way from the Eastern seaboard to the West. They are a very opportunistic species and produce a litter of typically 6 offspring. There is no shortage of them, and yes, Gawdzilla Sama is right, they can change the ecosystem they are in by predation.
I have no problem hunting them because there is no shortage of them. the worst ecological damage done would be to wipe out so many that their prey-rabbits and field mice- can over run an area. But nature curbs itself. Massive population increase leads to massive die offs. The issue with rabbits and voles are invading farms and eating crops. And there are not hundreds of hunters going after them. It isn't like an annual deer hunt.
Coyotes need to be hunted to keep their numbers in check because one coyote can kill dozens of prey in a few days. There are states where coyote hunting is year round and requires no license, and they are still there and still a nuisance.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 27, 2016, 11:47:30 AM
Coyotes kill beavers. Beavers create wetlands. Fish, reptiles, birds, and mammals benefit from that type of area. One coyote can turn a verdant area into a weed patch in short order. They are an invasive species, like rats, and are as far from being endangered as humans are.
Besides, it's kind of cool to see their heads explode when they get a hollow-point in the back of the skull. Brains come out of their eye sockets.
Ever heard that in nature, predators versus preys eventually balance themselves out? How would you know that you're killing too many coyotes (predators)? Do you have a bank of information that tells you so? I don't think so. How many species have ended up on the brink of extinction because of too much hunting/fishing? Lots.
Last time humans created a culture from living thing+hal. mushroom, we got maenads. I am curious where this one will go. :p
Quote from: josephpalazzo on January 27, 2016, 12:34:07 PM
Ever heard that in nature, predators versus preys eventually balance themselves out? How would you know that you're killing too many coyotes (predators)? Do you have a bank of information that tells you so? I don't think so. How many species have ended up on the brink of extinction because of too much hunting/fishing? Lots.
I do that because the naturalists in Missouri say it's essential to keep the remnants of the local ecology from being destroyed. I trust them more than I do you.
2? Kinda small sampling eh?
Quote from: aitm on January 27, 2016, 02:36:14 PM
2? Kinda small sampling eh?
Mass panic has to start somewhere.
Quote from: aitm on January 27, 2016, 02:36:14 PM
2? Kinda small sampling eh?
First Milla, then the Hive, then Raccoon City...
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 27, 2016, 02:14:54 PM
I do that because the naturalists in Missouri say it's essential to keep the remnants of the local ecology from being destroyed. I trust them more than I do you.
How many times have I had this conversation? People trashing duck and goose hunters for destruction of wetlands, until you point out that they benefit directly from a healthy wetland, which is why Ducks Unlimited is the biggest contributor to their keeping and restoration.
The annual deer hunt in most states serves to keep the deer/elk/moose herds at manageable levels and insures they have sufficient resources- in other words, no over populating their range. It also is survival of the fittest- the smart and wary deer reseed the herd with stronger and smarter offspring. Taking out invasive species like coyotes from decimating prey animals and leading to starving coyotes that will invade neighborhoods and endanger children and pets.
And don't get me started on Raccoons.....
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 27, 2016, 02:14:54 PM
I do that because the naturalists in Missouri say it's essential to keep the remnants of the local ecology from being destroyed. I trust them more than I do you.
Sure, you'll trust anything that says, "It's okay to shoot".
Quote from: josephpalazzo on January 27, 2016, 04:58:48 PM
Sure, you'll trust anything that says, "It's okay to shoot".
Works for me.
First off, coyotes are not very good at using rocket propelled roller skates as documented by Warner Brothers therefore a nuisance.
Secondly Shoe didn't want anyone to know what she looks like, but she's on Wikipedia under maenad.. I'm sorry Shoe.. I couldn't keep it to myself any longer..
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Mainade_Staatliche_Antikensammlungen_2645.jpg/250px-Mainade_Staatliche_Antikensammlungen_2645.jpg) Personally I find you adorable with the leopard hanging from your hand.. :lol:
Maenads were psycho women followers of Dionysus, who engaged in eating animals killed by bare hand, drinking their blood, and even engaging in cannibalism on occasion (ancient Theban myth). The Theban king was killed by his own crazed mother.
On coyotes in Cali ... there has been a bad drought there. The desert or arid plants are probably not in the best of shape, maybe more poisonous than usual.
Quote from: Baruch on January 27, 2016, 08:18:50 PM
Maenads were psycho women followers of Dionysus, who engaged in eating animals killed by bare hand, drinking their blood, and even engaging in cannibalism on occasion (ancient Theban myth). The Theban king was killed by his own crazed mother.
On coyotes in Cali ... there has been a bad drought there. The desert or arid plants are probably not in the best of shape, maybe more poisonous than usual.
Don't let that information get out. Every stoner in the Southwest will be headed there.
Quote from: stromboli on January 27, 2016, 08:33:11 PM
Don't let that information get out. Every stoner in the Southwest will be headed there.
There is a species of plant, that grows along the highways in the American SW, that is better than LSD, and free. But I won't share the info, and I have been brain wiped already.
Quote from: Baruch on January 27, 2016, 08:49:48 PM
There is a species of plant, that grows along the highways in the American SW, that is better than LSD, and free. But I won't share the info, and I have been brain wiped already.
Actually quite a few hallucinogenic drugs in the Southwest. Datura, Morning Glory, Peyote on Saguarro cactus, a few others I can think of. If its there the Native Americans know about it. The Navajo Skinwalkers supposedly had/have some concoction of herbs that gives them superhuman abilities. I have enough experience with Peyote to believe it.
Quote from: Baruch on January 27, 2016, 08:18:50 PM
Maenads were psycho women followers of Dionysus, who engaged in eating animals killed by bare hand, drinking their blood, and even engaging in cannibalism on occasion (ancient Theban myth). The Theban king was killed by his own crazed mother.
On coyotes in Cali ... there has been a bad drought there. The desert or arid plants are probably not in the best of shape, maybe more poisonous than usual.
I always knew she was
metal! :7505: