THIS IS NOT MY VIDEO THIS IS SARGON OF AKKAD'S VIDEO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjkUVJ3E2Uw
What the fuck.
Is this your video?
I watched about 5 minutes of the video provided. That's not my actual attention span, but that's what you should expect. You would do better making your point in short paragraphs. Get right to the point.
Let's try to look rationally to a few points he makes and dig up the real political correctness behind his look.
-He says something like 'She is doing this for herself and so she can't do it, it doesn't count'. Why does he think people help others at all? Does he think there is some supernatural force that drives them to do it without feeling anything for themselves? Or people do it just because it should be done? How alien can you get to the human nature? Yes, ideally everyone should try to help one and pther. The ideal doesn't mean shit. Human reality doesn't go away just because you don't like it. It just rules around and you live in it. There is no way around it. You can't fight with this. We are not a couple hundred people on earth, we are 7,5 billion.
-Besides the conflicting accounts and media shit on the Cologne event, I think there is also a weird understanding about this on 'police covering up refugee crimes'. It's one of his points too and I have seen it at other sites. This is a very good example how the standard Westerner views his own society and how average person anywhere around the world thinks these things work.
The police covers up crimes and information ALL the time. They manipulate media or sometimes use it to solve a crime, to keep order, to conform and profit/benefit from political climate ...etc. Most of the time they get instructed by the government(s), mostly the internal affairs in detail how to do it. And this happens in 'normal' situations with normal crimes going on. Most of the hate crimes for example underreported on purpose. They are also concerned with looking and staying functional to the society. So 'covering up' a crime is pretty much job description for them.
The vlogger seems surprised to see this and he thinks this only applies to the refugees cases. Talk about clueless.
Which brings us to his following point.
The other thing he says is something like that 'one would think poeple would rise and go out arm in arm in streets until they bring these man to justice'. This is EXACTLY what police is supposed to prevent and at the moment trying with all their might by the instructions from goverment(s). It's their job description.
And what does he think would happen if masses go out for a protest about refugees? That people march peacefully, sing songs sand hug each other? That's what he thinks, that a Western society wouldn't end in bloodshed. Exactly like thinking that a sexual assault crime wave in a drunk mass of people in new years eve only needs refugees.
A violent riot would broke out and escalate everything to an irreversable point. The consequences would be horrible.
Also, he has some weird understanding that attacks have not been condemned. ?
And I am bored now, stopped watching.
This is a very good example of a distorted personal view of one's own society and system; the belief that certain things are going wrong, because of an outside influence. And lack of understanding on the basics of how people, societies work the same, doesn't matter what their culture is.
I am afraid, this is going to get bad soon. Let's hope Europeans are going to learn about themselves as much as about the real world.
Quote from: The Skeletal Atheist on January 24, 2016, 02:00:30 AM
I watched about 5 minutes of the video provided. That's not my actual attention span, but that's what you should expect. You would do better making your point in short paragraphs. Get right to the point.
It's not my video.
As Sargon pointed out, the silence and cover-up of the IMMIGRANTS having an actual rape culture and perpetrating organized rape and molesting of women on New Year's Eve has fueled right-wing extremists and their ways.
Unless the regressive Left wakes up and deals with the immigrants and their rapey ways, this will all play into the hands of the far-right fascists.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on January 24, 2016, 03:36:57 AM
Let's try to look rationally to a few points he makes and dig up the real political correctness behind his look.
-He says something like 'She is doing this for herself and so she can't do it, it doesn't count'. Why does he think people help others at all? Does he think there is some supernatural force that drives them to do it without feeling anything for themselves? Or people do it just because it should be done? How alien can you get to the human nature? Yes, ideally everyone should try to help one and pther. The ideal doesn't mean shit. Human reality doesn't go away just because you don't like it. It just rules around and you live in it. There is no way around it. You can't fight with this. We are not a couple hundred people on earth, we are 7,5 billion.
-Besides the conflicting accounts and media shit on the Cologne event, I think there is also a weird understanding about this on 'police covering up refugee crimes'. It's one of his points too and I have seen it at other sites. This is a very good example how the standard Westerner views his own society and how average person anywhere around the world thinks these things work.
The police covers up crimes and information ALL the time. They manipulate media or sometimes use it to solve a crime, to keep order, to conform and profit/benefit from political climate ...etc. Most of the time they get instructed by the government(s), mostly the internal affairs in detail how to do it. And this happens in 'normal' situations with normal crimes going on. Most of the hate crimes for example underreported on purpose. They are also concerned with looking and staying functional to the society. So 'covering up' a crime is pretty much job description for them.
The vlogger seems surprised to see this and he thinks this only applies to the refugees cases. Talk about clueless.
Which brings us to his following point.
The other thing he says is something like that 'one would think poeple would rise and go out arm in arm in streets until they bring these man to justice'. This is EXACTLY what police is supposed to prevent and at the moment trying with all their might by the instructions from goverment(s). It's their job description.
And what does he think would happen if masses go out for a protest about refugees? That people march peacefully, sing songs sand hug each other? That's what he thinks, that a Western society wouldn't end in bloodshed. Exactly like thinking that a sexual assault crime wave in a drunk mass of people in new years eve only needs refugees.
A violent riot would broke out and escalate everything to an irreversable point. The consequences would be horrible.
Also, he has some weird understanding that attacks have not been condemned. ?
And I am bored now, stopped watching.
This is a very good example of a distorted personal view of one's own society and system; the belief that certain things are going wrong, because of an outside influence. And lack of understanding on the basics of how people, societies work the same, doesn't matter what their culture is.
I am afraid, this is going to get bad soon. Let's hope Europeans are going to learn about themselves as much as about the real world.
TL;DR All rape matters, right Shoe?
Quote from: Sal1981 on January 24, 2016, 04:07:44 AM
TL;DR All rape matters, right Shoe?
Well, while every thread we have on rape in this forum gets drowned in 'how women think all men are rapists and how they lie about rape', apparently it becomes a global critical issue and a motivation for a mass protest when it is about refugees.
But then my post is about the vlogger's perception and perspective on his own society, on 'police covering up crimes; specificly refugee crimes' and what he thinks going on. Not about how rape should be handled.
:arrow: Cologne sexual assault cases have the same problems with usual assault cases going on daily life. It's not a special situation that highly likely they won't get caught. And it has nothing to do with police cover up or media reports. It's about the nature of the crime and how the system works. Most sexual assualt and rape cases drop flat for the very same reasons. ALL SEXUAL ASSAULT CASES ARE UNDEREPORTED. It's the Europeans' perspective that it is not because it happens rarely in their country and when the crime gets high it is the refugees.
Feminists are labeled as 'nazi man haters' for screaming this in anger out for decades, but it is the critical point break when the perpetrators are refugees? Hmm. And 'All rapes matter' you said in a sracastic tone?
My mouth is tired, I am laughing with my ass.
Quote from: Sal1981 on January 24, 2016, 04:00:04 AM
As Sargon pointed out, the silence and cover-up of the IMMIGRANTS having an actual rape culture and perpetrating organized rape and molesting of women on New Year's Eve has fueled right-wing extremists and their ways.
Unless the regressive Left wakes up and deals with the immigrants and their rapey ways, this will all play into the hands of the far-right fascists.
Part of the master plan. We are going to skip WW I this time, and go straight to WW II.
" 'Actual' rape culture."
Oh linguistics almighty!
:lol: