Polygamy (Consensual)
Pretending to be raped while having sex and in pornography (Consensual)
Hurting someone while having sex and in pornography (Consensual)
All things that are extremely taboo that I support (Emphasis on the consensual parts of all of them)
Thoughts?
Something being taboo, merely means that by tradition if not law, it is illegal to do ... or forbidden to discuss. We have had problems on this forum with discussing pedophila for example. That is not something the average person here feels like discussing, not even our gay members. If you have extreme philias ... it should be discussed in the Enter The Darkness section (members only).
Personally, I don't find everything my society says is taboo, as being wrong either, consensual or not. Being arrested isn't consensual, but it has to be done sometimes. Similarly conspiracy is consensual, but is usually illegal. Consensus doesn't sway me either way. I just like or dislike certain things ... at least if I were involved with them. I don't need society's permission to be me ... but I don't think that society is under any obligation to tolerate me either ;-)
Quote from: Baruch on January 11, 2016, 12:04:55 AM
Something being taboo, merely means that by tradition if not law, it is illegal to do ... or forbidden to discuss. We have had problems on this forum with discussing pedophila for example. That is not something the average person here feels like discussing, not even our gay members. If you have extreme philias ... it should be discussed in the Enter The Darkness section (members only).
Personally, I don't find everything my society says is taboo, as being wrong either, consensual or not. Being arrested isn't consensual, but it has to be done sometimes. Similarly conspiracy is consensual, but is usually illegal. Consensus doesn't sway me either way. I just like or dislike certain things ... at least if I were involved with them. I don't need society's permission to be me ... but I don't think that society is under any obligation to tolerate me either ;-)
When it comes to pedophilia I don't consider having thoughts to make you a bad person, everyone has urges, but if someone who's an adult has sex with someone 16 or under I consider that wrong, I don't think anyone below 16 can consent to sex with an adult.
Now obviously if it's a 16 and a 15 year old that's different, but 17+ with a 15 year old is fucked up.
I could think of a fuk ton
Quote from: Baruch on January 11, 2016, 12:04:55 AM
We have had problems on this forum with discussing pedophila for example. That is not something the average person here feels like discussing, not even our gay members.
Why Should gay people be more in inclined to discuss pedophilia?
Or perhaps i simply misunderstood what you wrote
To OP: i feel there Should be no taboo about anything, anything Should be discussable. Though everything being legal is another thing
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on January 11, 2016, 04:02:13 AM
Why Should gay people be more in inclined to discuss pedophilia?
Or perhaps i simply misunderstood what you wrote
To OP: i feel there Should be no taboo about anything, anything Should be discussable. Though everything being legal is another thing
Misunderstanding ... "not even" ... but cisgender folks IMHO, are less likely to discuss any kind of sex. Gays who are self outed ... are rather liberated IMHO. That isn't to say they are more or less likely to be pedophiles. That to me is the great lie about the Catholic priest scandal. Where are all the priests who made out with little girls or women?
Jannabear, what is your full name and how much money did you make last year?
I find it interesting that guys will tell you their sexual interests but not their income, their physical endowment but not financial endowments.
The pedophilia that has been "discussed" was related to one posters' desires for a younger person. In an objective sense, we (in 6 years) have not had many discussions about pedophilia. And I'm with GSO Gymrat. Why would gay people be more inclined to discuss pedophilia? Those who have been convicted of it seldom if ever identify as gay. People I'm aware of and friends with that are gay are not pedophiles, so I'm not sure what the mention of that is.
As to the other topics, we have an "enter the darkness" for members only. I don't see any reason they couldn't be discussed, but that is up to the mods. I think mostly the interest for those topics simply hasn't been shown, so not discussed. I don't have any interest, but whatever.
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on January 11, 2016, 01:07:56 AM
I could think of a fuk ton
Is that bigger than a shit ton...... and is it imperial or metric? :winkle:
Quote from: Baruch on January 11, 2016, 12:04:55 AM
That is not something the average person here feels like discussing, not even our gay members.
Why would our gay members be different than others in discussing pedophilia?
Homosexuality HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH with pedophilia. You could have said "...not even electricians" and it would make the same sense.
We tried to talk about pedophilia when a poster said he had feelings for the girl playing in the Sia music videos and another member went as to far to threat to call FBI.
He was just expressing his feelings I guess. But I didn't react in a good way either. When an adult expresses 'love' about an 11 year old girl, you don't see it cute to talk about.
That's the thing with taboos. When someone even wants to talk about it, people reflexively react, esp. when it is about children. It's an urge. We are primates, we are programmed to protect our young from each other. I don't have kids. But it doesn't stop me from reacting violently. It instantly pushes my buttons.
I also honestly don't see what to talk about pedophilia. What is talk going to accomplish? A person comes and says "I'm pedophilic." OK. Then what? The only step forward he could go more is that 'Why not to allow pedophilic people their desire, why it is a taboo?" Is there anything else? That is the nature of the conversation.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on January 11, 2016, 12:14:54 PM
Why would our gay members be different than others in discussing pedophilia?
Because gay people and pedophiles are both told their sexual attractions are immoral, unhealthy and disgusting. When I was thirteen my mother gave me a pamphlet about sex she obtain from a pediatrician and there was a chapter on the dangers of homosexuals and how they pray on boys. There was no distinction between homosexuals and pedophiles. There was no such thing as a "healthy" homosexual relationship, just as there is no healthy pedophilic relationship. There was also no internet, no other information, so gay men of my generation often grew up socially isolated thinking we were inherently sick. I'm not in anyway attracted to children (almost everyone I have ever dated has been over 30) but I understand having a sexual attraction that other people find repulsive.
Quote from: GSOgymrat on January 11, 2016, 04:47:54 PM
Because gay people and pedophiles are both told their sexual attractions are immoral, unhealthy and disgusting. When I was thirteen my mother gave me a pamphlet about sex she obtain from a pediatrician and there was a chapter on the dangers of homosexuals and how they pray on boys. There was no distinction between homosexuals and pedophiles. There was no such thing as a "healthy" homosexual relationship, just as there is no healthy pedophilic relationship. There was also no internet, no other information, so gay men of my generation often grew up socially isolated thinking we were inherently sick. I'm not in anyway attracted to children (almost everyone I have ever dated has been over 30) but I understand having a sexual attraction that other people find repulsive.
Yes, I know that. :sad2: It's disgusting.
I think I was mostly reacting to seeing it here.
The urge itself isn't wrong, but having sex with someone younger then 16 is in my eyes.
Well taboo is subjective to the times. Perhaps some day those subjects will be discussed openly.
I personally see nothing wrong with being open as asking for help as in with pedophilia is better than acting on a desire out of extreme desperation. Same with rape. Prevent the rape and we will have less victims. Not to mention less jail birds. How can we do that if asking for help gets you in more trouble than just committing the crime?
So here we go with the morality thing again. Ask the Imam with a 10 year old bride. We talk about stuff that is in one form or another considered immoral in one context or another all the time. Morality in all its aspects is probably about #3 in the list of most discussed.
Taboo subjects? I grew up in a town where polygamy was secretly practiced, where 2 people I attended school with were the product of inbreeding, where sheepherder children had Syphilis from sex with sheep.
After I got out of the Navy I went back to visit after many years. Turned down the opportunity to have sex with a 12 year old girl who was quite willing. Other people didn't turn her down. Got drunk with a guy who was the child of a polygamous family and had a picture of his "aunt" a sister wife who was also the product of polygamy, kept in seclusion and raped regularly by her "husband." She was also inbred.
That cover the field or is there something else you want to talk about?
I think millennials are putting a completely different spin on polygamy in that they're preferring polyamorous relationships. Polygamy has connotations with extremist fundamentalists or Muslims wherein there's usually an older man and a bunch of women.
The 1960s had free love, but I'm coming across more people practicing open relationships that are becoming more closed with more than two people in them. I think that's hugely taboo, because we went from this idea that it should be one man and one women to now being more open to the idea of two men or two women, but I think almost everyone still raises eyebrows at the idea of a relationship that has something like two men and three women.
Quote from: TomFoolery on January 12, 2016, 10:15:55 AM
I think millennials are putting a completely different spin on polygamy in that they're preferring polyamorous relationships. Polygamy has connotations with extremist fundamentalists or Muslims wherein there's usually an older man and a bunch of women.
The 1960s had free love, but I'm coming across more people practicing open relationships that are becoming more closed with more than two people in them. I think that's hugely taboo, because we went from this idea that it should be one man and one women to now being more open to the idea of two men or two women, but I think almost everyone still raises eyebrows at the idea of a relationship that has something like two men and three women.
Times and situations change. Back in the day rock and roll was the devil's music and now we have Christian rock bands. The idea of open relationships was invariably evil, assuming that it became public.
But human nature and basic drives are less changeable. Different societies have had different takes on sexual behavior and morality. The English Romantics- Byron, Shelley, Mary Shelley, Coleridge and their lot had a very open and sexual sharing attitude among themselves. Coleridge was an Opium addict and supposedly Mary Shelley slept with more than one of them. Byron was a soldier of fortune and a mercenary soldier besides being an influential poet and a horny shagger of women; and possibly men.
Lol, different strokes for different folks.
I just think a public forum is not suitable for asking help on some subjects or even talk about them.
As we experienced a few times before people can threaten others with serious bullshit for very trivial things. Or may be you guys weren't aware.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on January 12, 2016, 11:01:22 AM
I just think a public forum is not suitable for asking help on some subjects or even talk about them.
As we experienced a few times before people can threaten others with serious bullshit for very trivial things. Or may be you guys weren't aware.
Comes back to common sense and the overall view of how the forum is seen by people when they come here. I myself have objected to some threads because I felt they might give an offensive view of the forum. But I'm one of the people who has invested in the forum in terms of buying it from Reggie and keeping it going, so how the forum is seen matters to me.
And you know, Shoe, just like all us old timers that at some point we have fielded just about every subject imaginable, so "taboo" takes on a different meaning in that context.
Quote from: stromboli on January 12, 2016, 11:08:34 AM
Comes back to common sense and the overall view of how the forum is seen by people when they come here. I myself have objected to some threads because I felt they might give an offensive view of the forum. But I'm one of the people who has invested in the forum in terms of buying it from Reggie and keeping it going, so how the forum is seen matters to me.
And you know, Shoe, just like all us old timers that at some point we have fielded just about every subject imaginable, so "taboo" takes on a different meaning in that context.
Agreed.
I was referring to a few incidents I coincided and had to deal with 2 of them and it wasn't fun. And not to mention didn't contribute to anything. :sad2:
Quote from: drunkenshoe on January 11, 2016, 12:26:14 PM
We tried to talk about pedophilia when a poster said he had feelings for the girl playing in the Sia music videos and another member went as to far to threat to call FBI.
He was just expressing his feelings I guess. But I didn't react in a good way either. When an adult expresses 'love' about an 11 year old girl, you don't see it cute to talk about.
That's the thing with taboos. When someone even wants to talk about it, people reflexively react, esp. when it is about children. It's an urge. We are primates, we are programmed to protect our young from each other. I don't have kids. But it doesn't stop me from reacting violently. It instantly pushes my buttons.
I also honestly don't see what to talk about pedophilia. What is talk going to accomplish? A person comes and says "I'm pedophilic." OK. Then what? The only step forward he could go more is that 'Why not to allow pedophilic people their desire, why it is a taboo?" Is there anything else? That is the nature of the conversation.
I posted the content I did, so that when pedophiles come out here in the future, it will be seen as not such a big deal anymore. I wanted to get the shock and awe out of the way, and when pedophiles come out in the future, I definitely think it's going to be less of a big deal here. I understand why some people were none too impressed or pleased with me talking about what I like or shoving that in people's faces. I did it for the reason I just gave, and I also wanted to fill in the blanks rather than have people fill in the blanks themselves. Even after posting about what I like, some posters still were talking about me fantasizing about naked kids and having sex with them. I laid out exactly what I'm into, and some were still confused, so I can imagine people would have been even more confused if I didn't just put it out there and say I like this and this, but not this and this. I apologise to anyone that was ticked off by my posts talking about my own interests. I understand why you were ticked off. The shock and awe was intentional on my part.
I won't apologise for being on the side of the Liberals and all the big health organizations when it comes to emotional maturity (these organizations argued that upping the AOC would actually hurt young people rather than help them), rather than on the side of the Conservative Party. I somewhat understand the better safe than sorry position these people have, but better safe than sorry is not an argument I'll ever accept. This is the same line of reasoning that gets you the Patriot Act and invasions of Iraq and other countries. What is emotional maturity anyways? In the United States, you have 13 year olds serving life sentences in prison. You have children under the age of ten taking hormones to make their appearance look more like that of the opposite sex, and you have young teenagers serving life sentences who supposedly were emotionally mature enough to know that what they were doing was wrong, but when you ask people about sex, they will often have a different answer for that than they do for when a person is old enough to be sentenced as an adult. There is so much inconsistency here.
As far as the gay and pedo thing, it's like when people ask why blacks are so bigoted towards gays. Blacks should be able to empathize with gays, because blacks had to go through some pretty big struggles like the gays have had to, but blacks are the most homophobic. Now, gays are certainly not the most pedophobic people, or anywhere close to it really, but it is a shame whenever a gay person responds to pedophiles with bigotry.
You ask what talk about pedophila could possibly accomplish? What we want is for society to be less bigoted towards pedophiles and more accepting of us. In the thread I made, someone posted something along the lines of "Well, I think of pedophile as meaning child molester, because whenever the media uses the word pedophile, they are almost exclusively talking about child molesters." Duh! Of course they are pretty much just talking about child molesters, because most of the rest of us are still in the closet. Shiranu I think posted that I should not watch the videos I watch. I like Shiranu and he's a smart guy, but I disagree with him here. Not watching child porn I can agree with and I've never crossed that line, but me not watching what I like, and just bottling it all up? That could be unhealthy and dangerous as well. Look at Catholic Priests. Many of them are gay, but instead of accepting that, they bottle it up, and in many cases that only works against them and they end up ruining young boys lives. Bottling things up is not always the best way to go.
Quote from: FaithIsFilth on January 12, 2016, 02:59:32 PM
I posted the content I did, so that when pedophiles come out here in the future, it will be seen as not such a big deal anymore. I wanted to get the shock and awe out of the way, and when pedophiles come out in the future, I definitely think it's going to be less of a big deal here. I understand why some people were none too impressed or pleased with me talking about what I like or shoving that in people's faces. I did it for the reason I just gave, and I also wanted to fill in the blanks rather than have people fill in the blanks themselves. Even after posting about what I like, some posters still were talking about me fantasizing about naked kids and having sex with them. I laid out exactly what I'm into, and some were still confused, so I can imagine people would have been even more confused if I didn't just put it out there and say I like this and this, but not this and this. I apologise to anyone that was ticked off by my posts talking about my own interests. I understand why you were ticked off. The shock and awe was intentional on my part.
I won't apologise for being on the side of the Liberals and all the big health organizations when it comes to emotional maturity (these organizations argued that upping the AOC would actually hurt young people rather than help them), rather than on the side of the Conservative Party. I somewhat understand the better safe than sorry position these people have, but better safe than sorry is not an argument I'll ever accept. This is the same line of reasoning that gets you the Patriot Act and invasions of Iraq and other countries. What is emotional maturity anyways? In the United States, you have 13 year olds serving life sentences in prison. You have children under the age of ten taking hormones to make their appearance look more like that of the opposite sex, and you have young teenagers serving life sentences who supposedly were emotionally mature enough to know that what they were doing was wrong, but when you ask people about sex, they will often have a different answer for that than they do for when a person is old enough to be sentenced as an adult. There is so much inconsistency here.
As far as the gay and pedo thing, it's like when people ask why blacks are so bigoted towards gays. Blacks should be able to empathize with gays, because blacks had to go through some pretty big struggles like the gays have had to, but blacks are the most homophobic. Now, gays are certainly not the most pedophobic people, or anywhere close to it really, but it is a shame whenever a gay person responds to pedophiles with bigotry.
You ask what talk about pedophila could possibly accomplish? What we want is for society to be less bigoted towards pedophiles and more accepting of us. In the thread I made, someone posted something along the lines of "Well, I think of pedophile as meaning child molester, because whenever the media uses the word pedophile, they are almost exclusively talking about child molesters." Duh! Of course they are pretty much just talking about child molesters, because most of the rest of us are still in the closet. Shiranu I think posted that I should not watch the videos I watch. I like Shiranu and he's a smart guy, but I disagree with him here. Not watching child porn I can agree with and I've never crossed that line, but me not watching what I like, and just bottling it all up? That could be unhealthy and dangerous as well. Look at Catholic Priests. Many of them are gay, but instead of accepting that, they bottle it up, and in many cases that only works against them and they end up ruining young boys lives. Bottling things up is not always the best way to go.
I'm not sure I remember, honestly. I don't have a problem with simulated ( like animated/hentai)... It's just any where the actor is actually underage I have a problem with.
Quote from: GSOgymrat on January 11, 2016, 08:20:32 AM
Jannabear, what is your full name and how much money did you make last year?
I find it interesting that guys will tell you their sexual interests but not their income, their physical endowment but not financial endowments.
I'm also interested in social security numbers, mother's maiden names, and home addresses, including an address of your previous home if you have moved within the last 5 years.
What are your guys first pet's name?
Name of the first place you went to school?
Father's middle name?
These are all very interesting subjects to me.
(I'm joking. don't answer any of those questions... to anyone on this forum.)
Quote from: FaithIsFilth on January 12, 2016, 02:59:32 PM
I posted the content I did, so that when pedophiles come out here in the future, it will be seen as not such a big deal anymore. I wanted to get the shock and awe out of the way, and when pedophiles come out in the future, I definitely think it's going to be less of a big deal here. I understand why some people were none too impressed or pleased with me talking about what I like or shoving that in people's faces. I did it for the reason I just gave, and I also wanted to fill in the blanks rather than have people fill in the blanks themselves. Even after posting about what I like, some posters still were talking about me fantasizing about naked kids and having sex with them. I laid out exactly what I'm into, and some were still confused, so I can imagine people would have been even more confused if I didn't just put it out there and say I like this and this, but not this and this. I apologise to anyone that was ticked off by my posts talking about my own interests. I understand why you were ticked off. The shock and awe was intentional on my part.
I won't apologise for being on the side of the Liberals and all the big health organizations when it comes to emotional maturity (these organizations argued that upping the AOC would actually hurt young people rather than help them), rather than on the side of the Conservative Party. I somewhat understand the better safe than sorry position these people have, but better safe than sorry is not an argument I'll ever accept. This is the same line of reasoning that gets you the Patriot Act and invasions of Iraq and other countries.What is emotional maturity anyways? In the United States, you have 13 year olds serving life sentences in prison. You have children under the age of ten taking hormones to make their appearance look more like that of the opposite sex, and you have young teenagers serving life sentences who supposedly were emotionally mature enough to know that what they were doing was wrong, but when you ask people about sex, they will often have a different answer for that than they do for when a person is old enough to be sentenced as an adult. There is so much inconsistency here.
As far as the gay and pedo thing, it's like when people ask why blacks are so bigoted towards gays. Blacks should be able to empathize with gays, because blacks had to go through some pretty big struggles like the gays have had to, but blacks are the most homophobic. Now, gays are certainly not the most pedophobic people, or anywhere close to it really, but it is a shame whenever a gay person responds to pedophiles with bigotry.
You ask what talk about pedophila could possibly accomplish? What we want is for society to be less bigoted towards pedophiles and more accepting of us. In the thread I made, someone posted something along the lines of "Well, I think of pedophile as meaning child molester, because whenever the media uses the word pedophile, they are almost exclusively talking about child molesters." Duh! Of course they are pretty much just talking about child molesters, because most of the rest of us are still in the closet. Shiranu I think posted that I should not watch the videos I watch. I like Shiranu and he's a smart guy, but I disagree with him here. Not watching child porn I can agree with and I've never crossed that line, but me not watching what I like, and just bottling it all up? That could be unhealthy and dangerous as well. Look at Catholic Priests. Many of them are gay, but instead of accepting that, they bottle it up, and in many cases that only works against them and they end up ruining young boys lives. Bottling things up is not always the best way to go.
You arrived to the exact point I described above. This is exactly what I am talking about. You go around and around after a lot of fucking bullshit at some point arrive to 'what is emotonal maturity anyways?' which equals to say "Why people can't have sex with children?" Children being jailed at 13 or International war policies are not at ticket for you to have sex with children. Something you can get with basic intelligence whatever is your urge.
Also pedophilia has nothing to do with homosexuality. Those priests are NOT homosexuals. A homosexual is attracted to adults, he/she doesn't have sex with children as an adult. Stop making stupid statements out of your ass.
We cannot agree on this, because obviously you can not understand that people need a certain mental fortitude to give sexual consent. An 11 year old girl cannot give consent to you. Neither a 13 year old one. Doesn't matter how mature children are there is a line of age needs to be drawn. And it is not based on your personal understanding of "What is emotional maturity anyway?"
And NO, very highly likely, an adult having sex with a child WILL ALWAYS BE A TABOO, because it is NOT beneficial to the modern society. It's not fuctional, it is harmful. So stop dreaming about it.
This is WHY talking about pedophilia is not a topic for a public forum. Because it doesn't accomplish anything other than a pedophile finally arriving to the point of "why can't I do that, while blah blah are happening?"
Quote from: Shiranu on January 12, 2016, 03:11:03 PM
I'm not sure I remember, honestly. I don't have a problem with simulated ( like animated/hentai)... It's just any where the actor is actually underage I have a problem with.
Short time ago. It was about a Sia music video, you'll remember it. You joined as I remember. I didn't mention any nicks, so subject wouldn't come up like this again. But no, it has to. Now a mother or a father will come and threaten with FBI like it happened before. Then why don't we talk about taboo subjects? This is why. It doesn't accomplish anything and create trouble.
(By the way the two incidents I was talking about two other ones we had years ago. Yes that one and something else. Not to mention what happened ot GYMIR. Not this.)
Quote from: drunkenshoe on January 12, 2016, 03:34:47 PM
You arrived to the exact point I described above. This is exactly what I am talking about. You go around and around after a lot of fucking bullshit at some point arrive to 'what is emotonal maturity anyways?' which equals to say "Why people can't have sex with children?" Children being jailed at 13 or International war policies are not at ticket for you to have sex with children. Something you can get with basic intelligence whatever is your urge.
Also pedophilia has nothing to do with homosexuality. Those priests are NOT homosexuals. A homosexual is attracted to adults, he/she doesn't have sex with children as an adult. Stop making stupid statements out of your ass.
We cannot agree on this, because obviously you can not understand that people need a certain mental fortitude to give sexual consent. An 11 year old girl cannot give consent to you. Neither a 13 year old one. Doesn't matter how mature children are there is a line of age needs to be drawn. And it is not based on your personal understanding of "What is emotional maturity anyway?"
And NO, very highly likely, an adult having sex with a child WILL ALWAYS BE A TABOO, because it is NOT beneficial to the modern society. It's not fuctional, it is harmful. So stop dreaming about it.
This is WHY talking about pedophilia is not a topic for a public forum. Because it doesn't accomplish anything other than a pedophile finally arriving to the point of "why can't I do that, while blah blah are happening?"
I like you as a poster and we can agree to disagree here. I'm not here to call anyone names, and I have no hard feelings for anyone who hasn't liked what I've had to post. I brought up emotional maturity in this thread just to show that people weren't being consistent. Do the people who agree with an 18 year old AOC also agree that a 17 year old killer should not be charged as an adult? They usually have no problem with that 17 year old being charged as an adult and accepting that the killer probably had the emotional maturity to know what they were doing, but when sex comes up, emotional maturity all of a sudden means something different. I guess all those health organizations like Planned Parenthood and the Canadian Aids society just wanted to have sex with kids too. Why else would they be arguing in favour of a lower AOC? There is no other good reason to be in favour of a lower AOC according to you, so please explain to me why Planned Parenthood, The Canadian Aids Society, the Liberal Party of Canada, and other organizations were against a higher AOC. Obviously all of these organizations were just filled with pedos looking to live out their fantasies, right? I understand that you think my ideal AOC is too young and I respect your opinion on that. Let's leave it at that.
Many of those priests absolutely are homosexual. Homosexual means you are attracted to males. Not men. Males, which can be men or boys, or even babies. You yourself said in the last thread that in your opinion sexual orientation has nothing to do with age. Also, studies tell us that around half of child molesters are not even pedophiles. They have other conditions and other stuff wrong with them that causes them to molest children. Many child molesters are homosexuals. Many of them are pedophiles. Plenty of them are neither pedophiles or homosexuals. People ignore these studies about half of child molesters not being pedophiles, because they like catchy terms. Pedophile priest is just so catchy, so people ignore the reality that many of these people are not pedophiles, and they just go with the term because it's catchy and sounds good to them. They don't care if they are being accurate in their description, because pedophiles are dirt anyways, so who cares if pedos face discrimination?
We will just have to agree to disagree here. I'm not going to shove what I like in people's faces again, and I want to make sure I don't say anything that would make any poster want to leave the forum. The last thing I want is to harm the forum.
I'm glad the subject is closed.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on January 12, 2016, 04:21:16 PM
Short time ago. It was about a Sia music video, you'll remember it. You joined as I remember. I didn't mention any nicks, so subject wouldn't come up like this again. But no, it has to. Now a mother or a father will come and threaten with FBI like it happened before. Then why don't we talk about taboo subjects? This is why. It doesn't accomplish anything and create trouble.
If it helps anyone sleep at night, they should go ahead and contact the FBI or anyone else they see fit to contact. Don't worry about offending me. I don't get offended.
Quote from: FaithIsFilth on January 12, 2016, 04:55:02 PM
If it helps anyone sleep at night, they should go ahead and contact the FBI or anyone else they see fit to contact. Don't worry about offending me. I don't get offended.
I'm not worried about offending anyone. That worry is about the forum. Not about you.
You are not the issue. The issue is how the forum appears outside. If we become noticed as a racist forum-which has happened-or one that condemns feminine equality, we lose new people. The forum's continuation is the issue.
Think of the forum overall. There are people like myself who have vested interests in the forum because of the statement we make. some of us, and some people no longer here, have invested money in keeping it. Since I've been here, the forum has nearly ceased to exist twice. You don't know the effort it took or the commitments to it to keep it going. We have a very protective view for a reason.
you'll hear mention of different people like Baddogma or HBA- which stands for Hillbilly Atheist. They are icons here because of the efforts they have put into it. I've only been here 6 years and there are people been here longer.
Aitm, Jason Harvestdancer Popeye's Pappy Drunkenshoe and others have all been here longer than I have. I'm a heavy poster because I'm retired and have a lot of interests. The forum means something and it has to be maintained. The big picture. How we all should view things.
I hear you. I probably should not have posted any videos at all. Two or three people on here have come out since then, and people treated it like less of a big deal, so I don't thinking making the thread was a bad idea, but posting the videos maybe was a bad idea. I was asked some very personal questions, and I wanted to be as honest as possible in answering them. Aitm thought I liked kids like he likes dogs, so I certainly had to clear that up and give some personal information about myself, and others thought I had super dark fantasies, so I had to clear that up as well. Even without the videos, I think many still would have had a problem with me even clearing up misconceptions like that. I see what you are saying about the forum. I don't want to cause anyone to leave, and I apologise for posting any video at all. The rest of the thread though, I don't think I went too far. I regret the errors I made in the thread like getting the definition of pedophile wrong myself, mixing up pre-teen with pre-pubescent.
I understand that pedophiles are not popular. If we are discouraging people from coming out of the closet here because that would harm the forum, I don't exactly agree with that. That seems to be like Hillary Clinton distancing herself from gay rights in the past, because it was unpopular to support gay rights and she thought it might damage her brand. I promise not to make any threads about this subject though, other than the one I made in the past. I said what I had to say and got it out of my system. I'm not obsessed with this like Pr is with Islam, so I'm fine with never making a thread about that subject again. Again, I apologise to anyone that was ticked off by my comments in that thread.
Quote from: FaithIsFilth on January 12, 2016, 06:13:02 PM
I hear you. I probably should not have posted any videos at all. Two or three people on here have come out since then, and people treated it like less of a big deal, so I don't thinking making the thread was a bad idea, but posting the videos maybe was a bad idea. I was asked some very personal questions, and I wanted to be as honest as possible in answering them. Aitm thought I liked kids like he likes dogs, so I certainly had to clear that up and give some personal information about myself, and others thought I had super dark fantasies, so I had to clear that up as well. Even without the videos, I think many still would have had a problem with me even clearing up misconceptions like that. I see what you are saying about the forum. I don't want to cause anyone to leave, and I apologise for posting any video at all. The rest of the thread though, I don't think I went too far. I regret the errors I made in the thread like getting the definition of pedophile wrong myself, mixing up pre-teen with pre-pubescent.
I understand that pedophiles are not popular. If we are discouraging people from coming out of the closet here because that would harm the forum, I don't exactly agree with that. That seems to be like Hillary Clinton distancing herself from gay rights in the past, because it was unpopular to support gay rights and she thought it might damage her brand. I promise not to make any threads about this subject though, other than the one I made in the past. I said what I had to say and got it out of my system. I'm not obsessed with this like Pr is with Islam, so I'm fine with never making a thread about that subject again. Again, I apologise to anyone that was ticked off by my comments in that thread.
Nobody here has labeled you, at least I haven't. And I respect you. Give you some kudos for being out front as you were, and I think everybody here has done similar threads of an emotional nature. We all tend to be very judgmental of ourselves and the internet isn't exactly the kindest environment. Kind of like sticking your arm out there and saying "slap me!" and somebody starts a chainsaw.
Yeah ok so I'm gonna go on a limb here and say that maybe taboo subjects shouldn't be discussed around here.
If you want to come out as a pedophile or what ever great it's your suicide buddy!
This is the internet every thing should be taken with a grain of salt.
But also it should be understood that any one can see what you type here. ANY ONE!
So yeah it's kind of like karma what you send out into the internet will come back to you! Take care!
A taboo subject for me around my family ...was when I was an atheist. I'm no longer an atheist, but it's still a taboo subject. It's like my dad wants to pretend that never happened in my life. lol
THERE IS ONLY ONE TABOO SUBJECT THAT HAS NEVER BEEN SPOKEN OF HERE. JUST ONE.
DIETING.
THERE. I SAID IT. I'M MAN ENOUGH TO CONFRONT IT. :32:
Quote from: Youssuf Ramadan on January 11, 2016, 12:10:24 PM
Is that bigger than a shit ton...... and is it imperial or metric? :winkle:
No it's fuck ton meaning endless
Quote from: Deidre32 on February 06, 2016, 10:26:41 PM
A taboo subject for me around my family ...was when I was an atheist. I'm no longer an atheist, but it's still a taboo subject. It's like my dad wants to pretend that never happened in my life. lol
Selective parental amnesia is a blessing. Use it all the time on my daughter ;-) Remember all the bits you liked, and forget the rest.