Is anyone else here extremely depressed to live in a country that is practically theocratic in many ways, that's full of morons, homophobes, racists, sexists, pc police, and greedy assholes, a country that has laws like:
" It is not a violation of a duty of care, protection, or support under this division when the parent, guardian, custodian, or person having custody or control of a child treats the physical or mental illness or defect of the child by spiritual means through prayer alone, in accordance with the tenets of a recognized religious body."
If that's not depressing I don't know what is.
But my way of combating my depression is to fight against this bullshit, to fight against america turning into a full blown theocracy, or atleast a partial theocracy, to fight against america staying ignorant and idiotic.
Thoughts?
I realize I posted this in the wrong section, was a mistake, feel free to move it, I apologize.
I think you're preaching to the choir. Welcome!
Quote from: Jannabear on January 10, 2016, 12:00:20 AM
Is anyone else here extremely depressed
Extremely? No. Are we fighting against a bloated government bought for and paid by rich corporations? Yes. Is the vast majority of people more concerned with their everyday battles? Yes. Does this give us a sense of apathetic depression? Yes. Extremely? No. I have beer for that.
Having waded through that particular swamp, my decision was to move forward and deal with what I could and not let the rest bog me down. Bog down? Swamp? Get it?
Quote from: Jannabear on January 10, 2016, 12:00:20 AM
Is anyone else here extremely depressed to live in a country that is practically theocratic in many ways, that's full of morons, homophobes, racists, sexists, pc police, and greedy assholes, a country that has laws like:
" It is not a violation of a duty of care, protection, or support under this division when the parent, guardian, custodian, or person having custody or control of a child treats the physical or mental illness or defect of the child by spiritual means through prayer alone, in accordance with the tenets of a recognized religious body."
If that's not depressing I don't know what is.
But my way of combating my depression is to fight against this bullshit, to fight against america turning into a full blown theocracy, or atleast a partial theocracy, to fight against america staying ignorant and idiotic.
Thoughts?
Neo, you are awake. So which do you prefer, red pill or blue pill? The proper response to depression is action. Depression comes from pent up anger with nothing to work against. So either find a way to release your anger, or stop being angry, or take some physical action (exercise) ... typing at the Internet doesn't count.
Quote from: Jannabear on January 10, 2016, 12:00:20 AM
Is anyone else here extremely depressed to live in a country that is practically theocratic in many ways, that's full of morons, homophobes, racists, sexists, pc police, and greedy assholes, a country that has laws like:
" It is not a violation of a duty of care, protection, or support under this division when the parent, guardian, custodian, or person having custody or control of a child treats the physical or mental illness or defect of the child by spiritual means through prayer alone, in accordance with the tenets of a recognized religious body."
If that's not depressing I don't know what is.
But my way of combating my depression is to fight against this bullshit, to fight against america turning into a full blown theocracy, or atleast a partial theocracy, to fight against america staying ignorant and idiotic.
Thoughts?
Religiosity is on the slow decline and has been for a while now. America is in no danger of becoming a theocracy. FFS just last year gay marriage became federal law. Further, the holy firestorm of retribution that the religious predicted would "rise up" and force the goverment to reverse its decision never even came close to happening.
Things are better than they were last decade are better than they were last decade are better than they were last decade. Laws like the one you mentioned are ancient, decrepit politicians from the days of segregation and their ilk trying to shore up their conservative bastions in the face of the wave of progress. A futile gesture.
We elected a pretty awesome president, not once but twice. This gives me some idea that there are a lot of good people out there. Everything is on continuum with the "norm" being the peak of the bell curve. It's important to remember that instead of concentrating on the extremes of either side.
Quote from: Nonsensei on January 10, 2016, 11:20:08 AM
Religiosity is on the slow decline and has been for a while now. America is in no danger of becoming a theocracy. FFS just last year gay marriage became federal law. Further, the holy firestorm of retribution that the religious predicted would "rise up" and force the goverment to reverse its decision never even came close to happening.
Things are better than they were last decade are better than they were last decade are better than they were last decade. Laws like the one you mentioned are ancient, decrepit politicians from the days of segregation and their ilk trying to shore up their conservative bastions in the face of the wave of progress. A futile gesture.
The law I mentioned isn't even ancient, that's current, unless it was appealed recently.
Depressed? No. I am fairly melancholic lately though.
USA is a first world country, can you expect anything else?
I get depressed. Last year was the worst, until I quit my job... which was the main cause of it. Fuck those guys.
The good news with that place is, they pushed another VERY valuable worker to quit and they were really badly taken aback by it. They really don't know what's wrong with the way they treat people. They are now down 2 HARD working people. Haven't found anyone at all to replace us... which is going to be especially hard to do to replace my friend because she was one of the managers.
Quote from: Jannabear on January 10, 2016, 07:04:24 PM
The law I mentioned isn't even ancient, that's current, unless it was appealed recently.
I didn't mean the law is ancient, I meant the politicians passing it are.
Quote from: Baruch on January 10, 2016, 09:34:29 AM
Neo, you are awake. So which do you prefer, red pill or blue pill?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrNW7f1u2i0
Keep writing about the problems and posting them on the internet. This is how we motivate each other to change the world.
I feel extremely fortunate to be able to live in place where people are not executed for being atheist.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on January 10, 2016, 08:38:21 PM
I get depressed. Last year was the worst, until I quit my job... which was the main cause of it. Fuck those guys.
The good news with that place is, they pushed another VERY valuable worker to quit and they were really badly taken aback by it. They really don't know what's wrong with the way they treat people. They are now down 2 HARD working people. Haven't found anyone at all to replace us... which is going to be especially hard to do to replace my friend because she was one of the managers.
Did you find other work? I am forgetful. I hope so. Unfortunately people aren't very good at managing people ... basically people fly by the seat of their prejudices. People in general are not very self-conscioust. I am sure that Hitler was confused why people didn't respond more positively to his reasonable demands. And employers usually are (systemic) dictators. They should dress up at work as Latin American generals who have never fought in any war but have all these medals and high rank. I haven't supervised people very often, but I try to be modest and self-conscious.
Hitler was more considerate than these people.
So far, no job yet. I have a commission that I'm finishing up and another I'm starting though. So that's at least something. Still need to find something steady though
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Quote from: PickelledEggs on January 11, 2016, 12:23:10 AM
Hitler was more considerate than these people.
So far, no job yet. I have a commission that I'm finishing up and another I'm starting though. So that's at least something. Still need to find something steady though
Sent from my Nexus 6 using your mom.
Right, you are the independent craftsman/artist fellow. That gives you a little control, but it is like a hobby farm isn't it? Even real family farmers in the US have had to have at least a part time regular job in town to even out and enhance the cash flow. Hope you can find something to pull in some pin money without being too much of a pain in the ass.
Quote from: Baruch on January 11, 2016, 12:25:53 AM
Right, you are the independent craftsman/artist fellow. That gives you a little control, but it is like a hobby farm isn't it? Even real family farmers in the US have had to have at least a part time regular job in town to even out and enhance the cash flow. Hope you can find something to pull in some pin money without being too much of a pain in the ass.
That's what I'm looking for. Some regular side job. I know quite a few artists that can live solely off of their art, but they also are further in their career than I am. I am building up enough work for a solo show, which will gain me a lot more exposure and also the credibility as an artist that I should have by now.
That being said, even though I'm going broke from not having a job, I am 1000x more happy than when I was at my old job. I have never worked such a horrible job in my life. Never. Never in my life have I needed to hide in the bathroom because I was having a panic attack. The day I decided to quit, I had 2 panic attacks. 1 within the first hour or 2 of working and one before I came back from lunch. That is how horrible the stress is there. It's not worth the small amount of money you're payed for the intense load of work and responsibility you are handed. And while I took pride in being the best at my job (which I was, other than the managers, obviously) I could not handle the abusive upper management. They way he treated us... was inhumane. I won't go in to detail, because I already have on this forum and don't want to take too much of this thread, but it was just horrible. A true nightmare of a job with pure evil, backstabbing, dishonest, upper-management that was always in everyone's business.
I'm prone to depression in general, but that job was just a living hell-hole.
I try not to dwell on this stuff too much. You can go any place in the world and find assholes if you are looking for them.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on January 11, 2016, 01:46:56 AM
That's what I'm looking for. Some regular side job. I know quite a few artists that can live solely off of their art, but they also are further in their career than I am. I am building up enough work for a solo show, which will gain me a lot more exposure and also the credibility as an artist that I should have by now.
That being said, even though I'm going broke from not having a job, I am 1000x more happy than when I was at my old job. I have never worked such a horrible job in my life. Never. Never in my life have I needed to hide in the bathroom because I was having a panic attack. The day I decided to quit, I had 2 panic attacks. 1 within the first hour or 2 of working and one before I came back from lunch. That is how horrible the stress is there. It's not worth the small amount of money you're payed for the intense load of work and responsibility you are handed. And while I took pride in being the best at my job (which I was, other than the managers, obviously) I could not handle the abusive upper management. They way he treated us... was inhumane. I won't go in to detail, because I already have on this forum and don't want to take too much of this thread, but it was just horrible. A true nightmare of a job with pure evil, backstabbing, dishonest, upper-management that was always in everyone's business.
I have had panic attacks also ... but it is a physiological reaction more than psychological. A charlie-horse of the emotions. I have had them. They are all palpable like a heart attack, not just some song you can't get out of your head. Improved general health may improve your resilience. I still have small panic attacks at work ... not grand mal attacks ... not for 26 years. My depression is primarily situational ... I can't deal with confrontation at work. Extreme responsibility was also involved, and abusive supervision/customers. Fortunately my level of responsibility has decreased, and I handle it better after 19 years of practice. I don't deal well with confrontation, when I am physically cornered (not physically threatened usually) ... because of where my desk sits. I have had the same difficult supervisor for 14 years, but he is curmudgeonly to everyone, and doesn't pick on me every day, and mostly engages is mild verbal put downs. In short, a good technical, but an asshole too. I am glad you got out while the getting is good. I say to myself in dialog with someone in my head ... "I have been fired by better men than you" ;-)