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Title: translated article: Sieve recognized as religious headgear in Massachusetts
Post by: Mr.Obvious on January 07, 2016, 06:58:41 AM
A slightly older one, but one that made me laugh.

QuoteSieve recognized as religious headgear in Massachusetts
17/11/2015

Just like in a lot of countries, it's not permitted to wear a piece of headgear when having a passport photo taken, unless it's a religious symbol. That's why Lindsay Miller was not allowed to appear on her driver's license with a sieve atop of her head.

The lady dissagreed with the decission and went to court. For she claims to be a 'Pastafarian' at the Church of the Flying Spaghettimonster and with that a sieve is apparently inseperable.

Her legal actions were originally dismissed. With the help of a lawyer from the American Humanist Association she lodged an appeal in which was judged that Miller had the legal right to appear on the picture with the sieve. The woman now shows of the sieve on her driver's license.

The Church of the Flying Spaghettimonster is a parody on religion. In 2005 Bobby Henderson created the movement surrounding spaghetti with two meatballs als a reaction to creationist education in which next to evolutiontheory God is also taught to be the designer of all life. The religion-parody started to run wild and some people nowadays identify as 'pastafari'.

Miller isn't the only one with a sieve on her driver's license, by te way. In 2009 an Austrian man appeared with a sieve on his driver's license. Four years later a Tsjech man was also given permission to appear with his uniqe headgear on a passport photo. A Belgian was told that very year that he had to submit a picture without one.

Source: http://nl.metrotime.be/2015/11/17/must-read/vergiet-erkend-als-religieus-hoofddeksel-in-massachusetts/ (http://nl.metrotime.be/2015/11/17/must-read/vergiet-erkend-als-religieus-hoofddeksel-in-massachusetts/)

Sadly I can't seem to link the pictures, but it looks funny.
Title: Re: translated article: Sieve recognized as religious headgear in Massachusetts
Post by: josephpalazzo on January 07, 2016, 07:09:53 AM
Sometimes parody is fine. But this one makes the parody itself look silly, not what is being parodied... just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: translated article: Sieve recognized as religious headgear in Massachusetts
Post by: Baruch on January 07, 2016, 07:23:20 AM
American judges are just as uneven as imams in Egypt.  No consistency at all, except for the uniform consistency of old oatmeal ;-)
Title: Re: translated article: Sieve recognized as religious headgear in Massachusetts
Post by: TomFoolery on January 07, 2016, 07:31:59 AM
Every time I read about pastafarians, I imagine they're being ridiculous to prove a point. There's a fine line for parody between imitating life and mirroring life. What I worry about is in 100 years, are people going to legitimately be wearing this shit on their heads and taking it seriously enough to discriminate against those who don't?
Title: Re: translated article: Sieve recognized as religious headgear in Massachusetts
Post by: Mr.Obvious on January 07, 2016, 12:58:39 PM
I doubt it. But then again, we've seen weirder shit in real religions. So, touché.
Title: Re: translated article: Sieve recognized as religious headgear in Massachusetts
Post by: stromboli on January 07, 2016, 01:06:52 PM
Asia Carrera, former porn star, now residing in Utah.

(http://img.ksl.com/slc/2542/254272/25427297.jpg?filter%20ksl/story_635)

Another picture of her from back in the day

(http://bbs.boingboing.net/uploads/boingboing/60984/65508f1b7496d6b6.jpg)

I do believe there is some marketability there for the creative among us.
Title: Re: translated article: Sieve recognized as religious headgear in Massachusetts
Post by: josephpalazzo on January 07, 2016, 02:22:42 PM
Quote from: TomFoolery on January 07, 2016, 07:31:59 AM
What I worry about is in 100 years, are people going to legitimately be wearing this shit on their heads and taking it seriously enough to discriminate against those who don't?

Spot on.
Title: Re: translated article: Sieve recognized as religious headgear in Massachusetts
Post by: stromboli on January 07, 2016, 04:18:11 PM
In a hundred years you'll get pulled over by a 7 foot cop with radar antenna sticking out of his head and a drug sniffer on one of his fingers. He'll fart your ticket out while x-raying your trunk with his left eye and scanning your driving record with his right, and his middle eye will be looking for outstanding warrants. The colander will be the least of your problems.
Title: Re: translated article: Sieve recognized as religious headgear in Massachusetts
Post by: Unbeliever on January 07, 2016, 04:19:25 PM
This is old, but still funny, IMO:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL7FcvEydqg
Title: Re: translated article: Sieve recognized as religious headgear in Massachusetts
Post by: TomFoolery on January 07, 2016, 04:44:02 PM
Quote from: stromboli on January 07, 2016, 04:18:11 PM
In a hundred years you'll get pulled over by a 7 foot cop with radar antenna sticking out of his head and a drug sniffer on one of his fingers. He'll fart your ticket out while x-raying your trunk with his left eye and scanning your driving record with his right, and his middle eye will be looking for outstanding warrants.
This is my dream, anyway.

Quote from: stromboli on January 07, 2016, 04:18:11 PMThe colander will be the least of your problems.
The way I see it is, the pope's funny hat wasn't always customary. Someone somewhere said, "The pope needs to look taller (or something) and that's how the pope hat came into being, and then it just stuck. Same with those weird gang signs he blesses people with, hijabs, yarmulkes, <insert your own funny religious garb here>... Customs, traditions, and religious rites all start somewhere. Give it long enough, and people start really taking that shit seriously.

Title: Re: translated article: Sieve recognized as religious headgear in Massachusetts
Post by: Baruch on January 07, 2016, 07:42:16 PM
Quote from: TomFoolery on January 07, 2016, 04:44:02 PM
This is my dream, anyway.
The way I see it is, the pope's funny hat wasn't always customary. Someone somewhere said, "The pope needs to look taller (or something) and that's how the pope hat came into being, and then it just stuck. Same with those weird gang signs he blesses people with, hijabs, yarmulkes, <insert your own funny religious garb here>... Customs, traditions, and religious rites all start somewhere. Give it long enough, and people start really taking that shit seriously.

Formal Catholic regalia was court dress from the late Rome Empire.  No wonder the empire failed ... too many hats ;-)  If you study Byzantine mosaics you can see this for yourself.
Title: Re: translated article: Sieve recognized as religious headgear in Massachusetts
Post by: stromboli on January 08, 2016, 07:49:04 AM
Pretty sure it was to cover a bald spot, same as the Yarmulkeh......
Title: Re: translated article: Sieve recognized as religious headgear in Massachusetts
Post by: Youssuf Ramadan on January 08, 2016, 07:54:40 AM
I, for one, welcome our noodly overlord.  :angel:
Title: Re: translated article: Sieve recognized as religious headgear in Massachusetts
Post by: TomFoolery on January 08, 2016, 10:26:20 AM
Speaking of goofy fucking "new" religions, I came across this today:

MTV True Life: I'm Starting a Religion
Can these young people turn unicorn worship and a time traveling alien cult into the world’s next great faith?
http://www.mtv.com/full-episodes/i6sxjb/true-life-i-m-starting-a-religion-season-2016-ep-strtrel
Title: Re: translated article: Sieve recognized as religious headgear in Massachusetts
Post by: josephpalazzo on January 08, 2016, 10:34:54 AM
Danger of a parody: it might very well get real.
Title: Re: translated article: Sieve recognized as religious headgear in Massachusetts
Post by: Baruch on January 08, 2016, 06:05:45 PM
Quote from: josephpalazzo on January 08, 2016, 10:34:54 AM
Danger of a parody: it might very well get real.

Worked great for both Christianity and Islam ;-)
Title: Re: translated article: Sieve recognized as religious headgear in Massachusetts
Post by: josephpalazzo on January 08, 2016, 07:36:04 PM
Quote from: Baruch on January 08, 2016, 06:05:45 PM
Worked great for both Christianity and Islam ;-)

Sure, and look at all the evil that created, along the other moronic religions like Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, and so on. They started as a joke, still are, but the members take those seriously, deadly seriously. Fuck that.
Title: Re: translated article: Sieve recognized as religious headgear in Massachusetts
Post by: Baruch on January 09, 2016, 08:12:58 AM
Quote from: josephpalazzo on January 08, 2016, 07:36:04 PM
Sure, and look at all the evil that created, along the other moronic religions like Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, and so on. They started as a joke, still are, but the members take those seriously, deadly seriously. Fuck that.

IMHO ... Christianity is a mocker of Judaism with Buddhism thrown in.  Islam is real Judaism 2.0.

Of course Buddhism is originally a mockery of Hinduism ... but it had legs outside of India.  Hinduism is still surviving Iron Age paganism.  Hinduism is relatively tolerant sect vs sect.  But they aren't tolerant of people who are outside the caste system (including Buddhists and Gandhi).  We don't have very good evidence how any religion started ... but it is easy to imagine.
Title: Re: translated article: Sieve recognized as religious headgear in Massachusetts
Post by: josephpalazzo on January 09, 2016, 08:19:16 AM
Who cares which religion comes from what religion. It's not a question of religion being a joke, because it is a fucking joke, it's that the members of religion take it seriously, and for some, deadly seriously. Religion is a cancer, and very dangerous. What do we do with the members? I'm all for castration.
Title: Re: translated article: Sieve recognized as religious headgear in Massachusetts
Post by: stromboli on January 09, 2016, 08:21:09 AM
Quote from: Baruch on January 09, 2016, 08:12:58 AM
IMHO ... Christianity is a mocker of Judaism with Buddhism thrown in.  Islam is real Judaism 2.0.

Of course Buddhism is originally a mockery of Hinduism ... but it had legs outside of India.  Hinduism is still surviving Iron Age paganism.  Hinduism is relatively tolerant sect vs sect.  But they aren't tolerant of people who are outside the caste system (including Buddhists and Gandhi).  We don't have very good evidence how any religion started ... but it is easy to imagine.

And Jainism precedes Hinduism. Jainism is a mostly pacifistic religion, which explains why there aren't too many Jainists around. Buddhism is touted as a pacifistic religion, with the exception of that Shao Lin/Thai machete swinging thing.

(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/2516/4216/320/bud_monk_.jpg)

Interesting how religions capable of violence seem to be more populous than pacifistic ones.
Title: Re: translated article: Sieve recognized as religious headgear in Massachusetts
Post by: Baruch on January 09, 2016, 08:57:47 AM
Human nature manifests both the inner monk and the inner warrior.  Just say no to Bushido.
Title: Re: translated article: Sieve recognized as religious headgear in Massachusetts
Post by: drunkenshoe on January 09, 2016, 10:15:13 AM
Quote from: Baruch on January 09, 2016, 08:12:58 AM
IMHO ... Christianity is a mocker of Judaism with Buddhism thrown in.  Islam is real Judaism 2.0.

There is a very old conspiracy theory trying to explain islamic spread with Jewish support against Christianity. (Muhammed's mentors being Jewish and similarities flamed it within the usual Jew paranoia I guess.) Jews did it! If you consider there are people who believe you guys burried the fossils...:lol:
Title: Re: translated article: Sieve recognized as religious headgear in Massachusetts
Post by: Baruch on January 09, 2016, 12:40:16 PM
Like Von Daniken ... that the Egyptians couldn't have built pyramids without alien help?  It really is an insult to Arabs, to say that without Jewish Arab assistance, the Muslim consolidation of Arabia or subsequent expansion into the Fertile Crescent and Egypt ... couldn't have happened.  The Byzantines and Sassanids had something to do with that.

But another insult is the idea that Jews are the ultimate Fifth Column ... we are always ready to betray our majority Gentile population.  Though sometimes we did ... like in Palestine in 1914.  Personally I think Jewish settlers chose the wrong side ... but since so many of the Aliya folks had European culture ... it isn't surprising.  Of course perfidious Albion betrayed them too.