Tonight's Powerball lottery is going to be worth about $450 Million. A single winner choosing the cash option should take home about $150 after taxes. What would you do with that kind of money?
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 06, 2016, 08:04:17 AM
Tonight's Powerball lottery is going to be worth about $450 Million. A single winner choosing the cash option should take home about $150 Million after taxes. What would you do with that kind of money?
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t's okay, I wouldn't know what to do with that kind of money, why I don't buy lottery tickets, I'm too afraid of winning...;-)
It's too much. Nonsense. I wouldn't want it.
Buy myself a nice car or three... give my family a nice home... then store a couple mil to travel the world on and donate the rest.
If I won that amount I'd probably give most of it away, first to family and then to worthy charities or whatever. If Bernie Sanders got the nod for the Democratic Party, would probably give him a bunch of money.
At my age it would just be bucket list money. Don't need a mansion or Ferraris. I already own most of what I want to own. Would like to go back and take a motorcycle tour of Scotland and probably go to New Zealand and Australia. It wouldn't actually alter my lifestyle all that much.
I have zero desire to have that amount of money. That much money is far, far too much for one person and I would feel obligated to maximize it to benefit others, and I don't want that responsibility. Other people would appreciate it more. I wouldn't say no to $100,000 though!
Quote from: GSOgymrat on January 06, 2016, 10:16:01 AM
I have zero desire to have that amount of money. That much money is far, far too much for one person and I would feel obligated to maximize it to benefit others, and I don't want that responsibility. Other people would appreciate it more. I wouldn't say no to $100,000 though!
That is pretty close to my thoughts. I could buy a new vehicle and maybe a motorcycle and that would be it. Wife and I do what we want and have most everything we need, and other than travel money that is about all I'd want.
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 06, 2016, 08:04:17 AM
Tonight's Powerball lottery is going to be worth about $450 Million. A single winner choosing the cash option should take home about $150 after taxes. What would you do with that kind of money?
Ooooh! I have a feeling like I would win it if I bought a ticket. I feel it in my bones. Yessiree, this is gonna be my lucky day. I just know I'll win this time.
QuoteGymrat: I have zero desire to have that amount of money. That much money is far, far too much for one person and I would feel obligated to maximize it to benefit others, and I don't want that responsibility. Other people would appreciate it more. I wouldn't say no to $100,000 though!
Actually, I have little desire. Certainly don't need it. Yeah, OK, I'd like it, but not enough to actually do something to get it. Anyway, $450 million dollars?? Hell, that's hardly enough to buy a ski area for your own private use. $450 million doesn't buy hardly anything these days.
What to do with $150 million is the kind of problem I could deal with. In fact I have a plan. First give 3/4 of it away. My brother, sister and parents each get a 1/4. Mom and dad would probably share half or more of theirs with their 11 brothers and sisters. Everybody gives 10% off the top to a family charitable foundation. Next I buy an RV (probably a toy hauler) load up the GF, dog and Harley and hit the road. I'd like to hit every National Park. While I'm doing that I'd be looking for some Lake front property. 10 to 20 acres or so. Big enough to build a nice, but not huge house plus a garage, (big enough to hold a few toys) shop, (I want to build some of my own furniture) barn (for the critters) and a green house. That should leave some land for an garden, orchard and some pasture for the critters. Hire a couple of people to take care of the place while we aren't there and live happily ever after.
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 06, 2016, 10:52:37 AM
What to do with $150 million is the kind of problem I could deal with. In fact I have a plan. First give 3/4 of it away. My brother, sister and parents each get a 1/4. Mom and dad would probably share half or more of theirs with their 11 brothers and sisters. Everybody gives 10% off the top to a family charitable foundation. Next I buy an RV (probably a toy hauler) load up the GF, dog and Harley and hit the road. I'd like to hit every National Park. While I'm doing that I'd be looking for some Lake front property. 10 to 20 acres or so. Big enough to build a nice, but not huge house plus a garage, (big enough to hold a few toys) shop, (I want to build some of my own furniture) barn (for the critters) and a green house. That should leave some land for an garden, orchard and some pasture for the critters. Hire a couple of people to take care of the place while we aren't there and live happily ever after.
Please visit the 14 national parks that I've already been to so I won't get stuck behind your RV on the road. :38:
Yeas, West Coast definitely. Want to travel from San Diego all the way North to Washington. We were hoping to take a 3 week trip this year, but with my wife's declining health ended up with mucho unforeseen doctor bills and we decided to sit on it for a year. Yosemite, Sequioa forests, Crater Lake and as much of Oregon as I can see- we have family in Washington and Oregon. Maybe get adventurous and do some fishing and snorkeling on the Puget Sound.
But Scotland would definitely be on my bucket list. Was fortunate enough to do some driving through the Highlands and that is some of the most amazing scenery on the planet. A dream trip would be on a motorcycle from Aberdeen up to the Orkney Islands and take as many ferry rides along the coast as you can. Stop at Edinburgh and revisit Glasgow. And New Zealand if possible.
Those who think they would know what to do with that kind of money are delusional. There are hundreds of such people who ended up wrecking their lives. If you think you're smarter than these people, then that would be your first mistake. Whatever plan you may have, forget it, once you win, you enter the twilight zone. Be thankful that the odds of you winning are against you.
Quote from: stromboli on January 06, 2016, 11:45:51 AM
Please visit the 14 national parks that I've already been to so I won't get stuck behind your RV on the road.
Not to worry. The 45 footer I want is best parked outside the parks, and the F450 with 860 lb/ft of torque I want should be able to move it down the road at a reasonable pace.
It will be close to half a billion dollars by drawing time. If nobody wins it will be silly season at the point of sales.
I could use the money, I turn 65 next week and my retirement plans consist solely of winning the lottery. They can hurry up with that, if you please.
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 06, 2016, 11:59:56 AM
Not to worry. The 45 footer I want is best parked outside the parks, and the F450 with 860 lb/ft of torque I want should be able to move it down the road at a reasonable pace.
The F450 Compensator is quite spectacular, isn't it?
People who don't know what to do with that much money lack imagination... I've seen them Saudi sheikh's sons... I think I can blow money at that pace :P.
Quote from: Shiranu on January 06, 2016, 01:22:04 PM
People who don't know what to do with that much money lack imagination... I've seen them Saudi sheikh's sons... I think I can blow money at that pace :P.
It isn't how fast can you spend it. It's spend the last penny the day you die old and happy with a smile on your face.
You don't need brains to spend money, even fucking morons can do that.
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Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 06, 2016, 01:28:19 PM
It isn't how fast can you spend it. It's spend the last penny the day you die old and happy with a smile on your face.
Meh. It has no obligation to make you happy; die with a smile/die with a frown you knew what to do with the money (spend it). That is all money is for... transferring wealth or possession from party A to party B. So saying they don't know what to do with it doesn't particularly make sense.
Now if you want to say they wouldn't know what to do with their life if they acquired money that's a different beast all together... but no one really has that figured out all to well anyways.
Actually I have thought about it, not just winning money but trying to make it real now. I want to get into combining large aqua-ponics and agra-ponics into locally owned companies, hire only handicapped vets, train them, let them run the things. I think using modern tech we could use old abandoned K-marts and other large building even during winter with the help of mirrors and a little help from deep radiant heat, establish year round growing veggies and raise healthy talapia as well. With that kind of money I could probably start about a hundred franchises around the country employing about a fifty thousand handicapped vets.
Not only that, but I would also have as friends….50,000 ex vets…sure go ahead…fuck with me..
Quote from: aitm on January 06, 2016, 07:10:04 PM
Actually I have thought about it, not just winning money but trying to make it real now. I want to get into combining large aqua-ponics and agra-ponics into locally owned companies, hire only handicapped vets, train them, let them run the things. I think using modern tech we could use old abandoned K-marts and other large building even during winter with the help of mirrors and a little help from deep radiant heat, establish year round growing veggies and raise healthy talapia as well. With that kind of money I could probably start about a hundred franchises around the country employing about a fifty thousand handicapped vets.
Not only that, but I would also have as friends….50,000 ex vets…sure go ahead…fuck with me..
This. All joking and rhetoric-knit picking aside... a huge reason the money "destroys" people's lives is it is people who come from nothing economically and generally come from a low social and educational background. The exact same thing happens to many sports players and rappers who come from poverty into suddenly being multi-millionaires. It goes to the head unlike it would for someone who has been "spoiled" all their lives... and they spend most of the money on themselves rather than others.
While many fail... many don't. I think the majority of us here... if given that type of money... would know what to do with it in one way or another. And likely it would destroy some of our lives and other's make better.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 06, 2016, 06:25:40 PM
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Governor Christie? ;-(
I'd change my passwords at work to "Fuck you" and pay off everyone's mortgage. Yes, you too.
Quote from: Mermaid on January 06, 2016, 08:01:55 PM
I'd change my passwords at work to "Fuck you" and pay off everyone's mortgage. Yes, you too.
and I would be happy to let you. Let me know when you want my address. :)
Quote from: aitm on January 06, 2016, 07:10:04 PM
Actually I have thought about it, not just winning money but trying to make it real now. I want to get into combining large aqua-ponics and agra-ponics into locally owned companies, hire only handicapped vets, train them, let them run the things. I think using modern tech we could use old abandoned K-marts and other large building even during winter with the help of mirrors and a little help from deep radiant heat, establish year round growing veggies and raise healthy talapia as well. With that kind of money I could probably start about a hundred franchises around the country employing about a fifty thousand handicapped vets.
Not only that, but I would also have as friends….50,000 ex vets…sure go ahead…fuck with me..
Damn that is actually a good idea. You been using the noodle there, aitm.
I don't have that kind of drive to see something like that through. I would just try to get money to people who could do something useful with it, but a startup of a progressive company is a good use of money. In my case I would try to get behind some alternative energy startups or environmental cleanups or something like that.
Quote from: stromboli on January 06, 2016, 09:48:31 PM
Damn that is actually a good idea. You been using the noodle there, aitm.
I don't have that kind of drive to see something like that through. I would just try to get money to people who could do something useful with it, but a startup of a progressive company is a good use of money. In my case I would try to get behind some alternative energy startups or environmental cleanups or something like that.
The Chinese already dominate in solar and wind power ... you are too late.
I think the first thing I would do is seek out a financial planner with a proven track record of handling sudden fortune cases successfully. But I'm boring like that. Oh and airplanes. I'd buy a couple airplanes.
One for turning avgas into noise.
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And one for going from point a to point b. ...and also turning avgas into noise.
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Quote from: aitm on January 06, 2016, 07:10:04 PM
Actually I have thought about it, not just winning money but trying to make it real now. I want to get into combining large aqua-ponics and agra-ponics into locally owned companies, hire only handicapped vets, train them, let them run the things. I think using modern tech we could use old abandoned K-marts and other large building even during winter with the help of mirrors and a little help from deep radiant heat, establish year round growing veggies and raise healthy talapia as well. With that kind of money I could probably start about a hundred franchises around the country employing about a fifty thousand handicapped vets.
Not only that, but I would also have as friends….50,000 ex vets…sure go ahead…fuck with me..
WTF is an "ex vet"?
No winner, $650,000,000 in the jackpot at this time.
"A billion here and a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking about real money."
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 07, 2016, 01:11:42 AM
No winner, $650,000,000 in the jackpot at this time.
Holy shit snacks.
Quote from: Johan on January 07, 2016, 01:23:20 AM
Holy shit snacks.
Next drawing is Saturday evening, so one billion is not out of the question.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 07, 2016, 01:28:27 AM
Next drawing is Saturday evening, so one billion is not out of the question.
We're gonna need more airplanes then. :wink2:
Picked up another $25,000,000 since last update. This is going to be fun to watch.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 07, 2016, 01:58:15 AM
Picked up another $25,000,000 since last update. This is going to be fun to watch.
They said when they changed the numbers a while back that it was going to make the possibility of a billion dollar jackpot much more likely. Looks like they were right, and that they will be getting another $2 from me.
$700,000,000 ($428.4 million if you take the cash option.)
The 30 year annuity pays $23,333,333/year. I could live on two million a month, I think. Taking it all at once means you give away $272,000,000. That's crazy.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 07, 2016, 12:00:38 PM
$700,000,000 ($428.4 million if you take the cash option.)
The 30 year annuity pays $23,333,333/year. I could live on two million a month, I think. Taking it all at once means you give away $272,000,000. That's crazy.
There are tax advantages to taking the annuity payments too. With the annuity you pay a lower rate on the first $300Kish every year for 30 years. If you take the cash option you only get that break once. The risk in taking the annuity is you are banking on the lottery remaining solvent for the next 30 years.
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 07, 2016, 12:09:18 PM
There are tax advantages to taking the annuity payments too. With the annuity you pay a lower rate on the first $300Kish every year for 30 years. If you take the cash option you only get that break once. The risk in taking the annuity is you are banking on the lottery remaining solvent for the next 30 years.
Honestly just one payment of the annuity would be enough to set someone up for life.
Quote from: The Skeletal Atheist on January 07, 2016, 12:11:32 PM
Honestly just one payment of the annuity would be enough to set someone up for life.
Not as well as one payment of the cash option...
Quote from: The Skeletal Atheist on January 07, 2016, 12:11:32 PM
Honestly just one payment of the annuity would be enough to set someone up for life.
But there are people who won't play Powerball when it's ONLY $40,000,000. Dafuq?
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 07, 2016, 12:13:36 PM
But there are people who won't play Powerball when it's ONLY $40,000,000. Dafuq?
Not to mention gas prices at an all time low. I guarantee there is a stream of cars headed to Idaho from Utah right now.
Quote from: stromboli on January 07, 2016, 01:00:03 PM
Not to mention gas prices at an all time low. I guarantee there is a stream of cars headed to Idaho from Utah right now.
"The ones that do not are Nevada, Utah, Mississippi, Alabama, Alaska and Hawaii."
Well....I am by chance going to be about 40 miles from the Idaho border later today, so fuck it. 10 tickets on one draw, might as well splurge.
Quote from: stromboli on January 07, 2016, 04:11:53 PM
Well....I am by chance going to be about 40 miles from the Idaho border later today, so fuck it. 10 tickets on one draw, might as well splurge.
Not to rain on the promise of instant riches, but you'd probably better off holding on to your money.
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Probably but where's the fun in that? I'm sure that Stromboli couldn't afford to lose $20 he wouldn't buy a $20 ticket.
http://www.infographicsarchive.com/interesting-facts/infographic-what-are-the-odds-of-winning-the-lottery/
Your chart says 23 million to 1. The actual odds of winning the Powerball lottery with a single number are 1 in 292 million which is much worse that your link says. Despite the long odds someone wins it on a regular basis.
Sure, but "someone" doesn't buy tickets, you or I or he or she does.
The fact that "someone" may win doesn't do you or I or he or she any good at all.
Don't play, guaranteed won't win.
Can't afford a ticket? Don't play, buy food.
Can afford a ticket? Skip the meth and go for celebrity OD status.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 07, 2016, 05:00:28 PMDon't play, guaranteed won't win.
Also a guaranteed won't lose. I've seen a lot of people blow thousands of real dollars for millions of potential dollars. Seems like a crummy deal. The system seems designed to exploit people's greed and hope to clean out their wallets. It's a step up from televangelism only in the sense that they actually pay out once in a while, though it's rarely more than the person put in.
Quote from: Hydra009 on January 07, 2016, 05:22:24 PM
Also a guaranteed won't lose. I've seen a lot of people blow thousands of real dollars for millions of potential dollars. Seems like a crummy deal. The system seems designed to exploit people's greed and hope to clean out their wallets. It's a step up from televangelism only in the sense that they actually pay out once in a while, though it's rarely more than the person put in.
I didn't suggest playing thousands by any means. But tell me who here hasn't spent $2 on some amazingly trivial shit that returned absolutely nothing of any real use.
$150 million? How much rum, weed, coke and whores does that amount to? I probably wouldn't last very long, but I'd go out with a smile on my face... :06:
Never tell me the odds.
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 07, 2016, 04:35:48 PM
Probably but where's the fun in that? I'm sure that Stromboli couldn't afford to lose $20 he wouldn't buy a $20 ticket.
Lol. 5 hours later I'm clutching a $20 10 pick in my hot little hands...... Slightly less than half a tank of gas. Like the old timer said, there's no moss growing under my tires. :13:
And yes, I can afford it.
And no I didn't go just for the ticket. My son lives North of me and we went to Idaho- another 40 miles- after visiting him.
Quote from: Shiranu on January 07, 2016, 06:08:46 PM
Never tell me the odds.
me either, its like: Challenge accepted!
The exact odds are: one in 404,586,468. Good luck to all the players. You'll really going to need it!
Hey its the crushing disappointment followed by the fit of rage when you tear the tickets to shreds and burst into tears. Refocuses you on just how pointless and futile life really is.
Quote from: josephpalazzo on January 08, 2016, 07:13:53 AM
The exact odds are: one in 404,586,468. Good luck to all the players. You'll really going to need it!
I haven't done the math, but that isn't what they say on the website. Are you using the current rules which are 69 white balls and 26 red balls?
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Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 08, 2016, 08:00:27 AM
I haven't done the math, but that isn't what they say on the website. Are you using the current rules which are 69 white balls and 26 red balls?
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No I didn't. I only considered choosing 5 numbers out of 69. Didn't know about the 26 red balls. Will do the calculation again. Thanks...
Don't forget that you don't have to choose your numbers in order. You just have to pick five of 69 plus one of 26.
Yes, the odds as advertised is correct: number of combination = {69x68x67x66x65/(1x2x3x4x5)}x26 = 292,201,338
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 08, 2016, 08:24:31 AM
Don't forget that you don't have to choose your numbers in order. You just have to pick five of 69 plus one of 26.
I remember once in South Carolina being stuck in line forever behind a woman at a gas station who got a quick pick ticket that had sequential numbers and was trying to return it. Unfortunately, you can't return lottery tickets, and she was mad because the cashier sold her a ticket that "couldn't possibly win." I tried explaining that since numbers weren't drawn sequentially, if the drawing was truly random, she had just as much chance of winning with a ticket that had numbers "22, 23, 24, 25, 26" as she did "1, 7, 18, 29, 48." Yes, the odds of winning
are astronomical, but that's true for any set of five numbers.
I swear, she looked at me like I was practicing witchcraft.
Quote from: josephpalazzo on January 08, 2016, 08:39:01 AM
Yes, the odds as advertised is correct: number of combination = {69x68x67x66x65/(1x2x3x4x5)}x26 = 292,201,338
I would have been very very surprised if they weren't. The number of lawsuits would be stagering...
Quote from: TomFoolery on January 08, 2016, 09:17:17 AM
I swear, she looked at me like I was practicing witchcraft.
From her POV you probably were. Facts, at least facts that don't support one's personal views, are nothing but black magic or damn lies to at least half the country.
So if an atheist wins the lottery, is that proof god doesn't exist? The mind wonders.....
Quote from: stromboli on January 08, 2016, 10:21:50 AM
So if an atheist wins the lottery, is that proof god doesn't exist? The mind wonders.....
Depends... what he praying before his winnings?!??
Quote from: stromboli on January 08, 2016, 10:21:50 AM
So if an atheist wins the lottery, is that proof god doesn't exist? The mind wonders.....
No! It's proof that God is sparing the religious from the temptation of worldly possessions and the tumult that comes with it.
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 08, 2016, 10:06:22 AM
I would have been very very surprised if they weren't. The number of lawsuits would be stagering...
Didn't know that the balls were in different colors, so my mistake...
I have a theory that balls bouncing around in the bin thing might knock some of them slightly out of round, and balls with bigger numbers would be slightly heavier. Hence if you measured every ball for roundness and weight, you could determine which balls would more likely wind up in the chute thingy to count them. Pick ten number combinations with those balls and you would increase your odds of winning. Or not.
It's currently up to $800M ($496M cash option). I shall play my personal limit and not win, but I go into it knowing the odds and willing to waste ten bucks on an infinitesimally small chance that statistically ain't gonna hit me.
That said, yes, I can think of many ways to spend a lot of it. Buy a car, buy a golf club membership, hire a cleaning person because yes I am that lazy, buy a better computer (buy a couple, actually), and then travel until I finally feel like coming home to the new house I'll have commissioned from Taliesin West to be done in the style of Frank Lloyd Wright, to include at least a server room, conservatory (to which more instruments than I already own will be added), library, attached greenhouse, telescope dome for a pier-mounted monstrosity, and a kitchen that would make Julia Child weep with envy.
I'd say most of the fun of playing the lottery is in fantasizing about what you'd do with it, except that realistically all of the fun of playing the lottery is in fantasizing about what you'd do with it. :)
Quote from: stromboli on January 08, 2016, 01:11:44 PM
I have a theory that balls bouncing around in the bin thing might knock some of them slightly out of round, and balls with bigger numbers would be slightly heavier. Hence if you measured every ball for roundness and weight, you could determine which balls would more likely wind up in the chute thingy to count them. Pick ten number combinations with those balls and you would increase your odds of winning. Or not.
You could determine that by looking at the numbers that came out in previous drawings. If any have come out greater than their statistical norm, then maybe there is a flaw in the damn machine...;-)
Quote from: trdsf on January 08, 2016, 01:30:04 PM
telescope dome for a pier-mounted monstrosity
You can pickup a Planwave PW1000 1 meter observatory system (http://planewave.com/products-page/cdk700/pw1000-cdk-telescope-system/) for $650K.
1 in 38 of winning your money and a dollar... That's not too terrible.
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 08, 2016, 02:24:00 PM
You can pickup a Planwave PW1000 1 meter observatory system (http://planewave.com/products-page/cdk700/pw1000-cdk-telescope-system/) for $650K.
DO WANT.
Oh yeah, and a Virtual Pinball Machine (http://virtuapin.net/).
Quote from: trdsf on January 08, 2016, 01:30:04 PM
It's currently up to $800M ($496M cash option). I shall play my personal limit and not win, but I go into it knowing the odds and willing to waste ten bucks on an infinitesimally small chance that statistically ain't gonna hit me.
That said, yes, I can think of many ways to spend a lot of it. Buy a car, buy a golf club membership, hire a cleaning person because yes I am that lazy, buy a better computer (buy a couple, actually), and then travel until I finally feel like coming home to the new house I'll have commissioned from Taliesin West to be done in the style of Frank Lloyd Wright, to include at least a server room, conservatory (to which more instruments than I already own will be added), library, attached greenhouse, telescope dome for a pier-mounted monstrosity, and a kitchen that would make Julia Child weep with envy.
I'd say most of the fun of playing the lottery is in fantasizing about what you'd do with it, except that realistically all of the fun of playing the lottery is in fantasizing about what you'd do with it. :)
If I won, I'd hire you to work with an architect to design my house.
Quote from: kilodelta on January 08, 2016, 04:16:19 PM
If I won, I'd hire you to work with an architect to design my house.
How are you on tall, geometric-patterned stained glass windows? :)
Quote from: trdsf on January 08, 2016, 04:49:48 PM
How are you on tall, geometric-patterned stained glass windows? :)
As long as it changes color over the course of the day.
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 08, 2016, 08:00:27 AM
I haven't done the math, but that isn't what they say on the website. Are you using the current rules which are 69 white balls and 26 red balls?
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Well, shit. I threw out our tickets, but apparently we won $4.
I just bought a ticket for our national lottery, tonight's rollover is nearly 60 million pounds.
If I were to win I would give most of it away to family, friends and charity, I would keep enough to ensure I, my wife, and our four kids could live a nice comfortable life.
A couple of million would do that I reckon.
SO……..how superstitious should I be?
It was five years ago today that I won $88,000 in the Florida Lotteries "Fantasy Five" on a quick pick.
Do I do quick picks again knowing it was just random probability or use my regular numbers knowing it was still random probability or go all out and buy a hundred?
Quote from: aitm on January 09, 2016, 11:11:55 AM
SO……..how superstitious should I be?
It was five years ago today that I won $88,000 in the Florida Lotteries "Fantasy Five" on a quick pick.
Do I do quick picks again knowing it was just random probability or use my regular numbers knowing it was still random probability or go all out and buy a hundred?
WHOA. Really!??? That's awesome.
Quote from: aitm on January 09, 2016, 11:11:55 AM
SO……..how superstitious should I be?
It was five years ago today that I won $88,000 in the Florida Lotteries "Fantasy Five" on a quick pick.
Do I do quick picks again knowing it was just random probability or use my regular numbers knowing it was still random probability or go all out and buy a hundred?
When I was an active duty CPO I gave the standard speech to my troops before they went on liberty in foreign ports. One line in particular is relevant here:
"Don't take more money ashore than you would toss over the side."
Quote from: aitm on January 09, 2016, 11:11:55 AM
SO……..how superstitious should I be?
It was five years ago today that I won $88,000 in the Florida Lotteries "Fantasy Five" on a quick pick.
Do I do quick picks again knowing it was just random probability or use my regular numbers knowing it was still random probability or go all out and buy a hundred?
Really?! That's pretty lucky! I have never won a thing in my life. Then I have just played a few times all my life.
With that kind of money, I'd quit my job, move somewhere nice, and live a nice comfortable life. I don't need a mansion, a garage full of expensive cars, or anything like that. Maybe a really powerful gaming computer, but that's about it. I'd buy some condos or something, make my more money work for me. I'd give big portions to worthy charities, play Santa Clause around Christmas and give out $1000 to random people.
I'd buy Ken Ham and chain him out back with the other dogs.
With that kind of money I could show the world what a dirty old man REALLY looks like…..hellooooo honey, want make 100,000 in an hour?
Quote from: aitm on January 09, 2016, 01:40:00 PM
With that kind of money I could show the world what a dirty old man REALLY looks like…..hellooooo honey, want make 100,000 in an hour?
Sometimes you sound very tempting, dirty old man. Too bad I've never been that practical.
With that kind of money I'll offer you 200,000 an hour,,,,,now, just send me your recent nudes so I can have the cash ready when I fly you over…….
:93:
Quote from: aitm on January 09, 2016, 01:40:00 PM
With that kind of money I could show the world what a dirty old man REALLY looks like…..hellooooo honey, want make 100,000 in an hour?
Wouldn't even cost you that much. You could probably get it for $3000.
https://youtu.be/46zrey2IAak?t=43s
Quote from: aitm on January 09, 2016, 01:49:36 PM
With that kind of money I'll offer you 200,000 an hour,,,,,now, just send me your recent nudes so I can have the cash ready when I fly you over…….
:93:
In your pm. :ppp
The scary thing is, a man would pay that sort of sum if he can afford, just to enjoy paying it and the thrill of having that power. :lol:
Never been a hooker person, or a stripper person, can't seem to approve the idea of giving a gal 40 bucks to squirm on my lap in a room full of people. But the lil hottie that just wanders down the vegetable isle at the local grocery…hello love, fancy making a small fortune for a couple hours?
Quote from: drunkenshoe on January 09, 2016, 01:56:57 PM
In your pm. :ppp
I can only imagine what horror you sent me…….brat. Why can't you gift an old man who may very well be dying of cancer at this very moment.
Quote from: aitm on January 09, 2016, 01:58:05 PM
Never been a hooker person, or a stripper person, can't seem to approve the idea of giving a gal 40 bucks to squirm on my lap in a room full of people. But the lil hottie that just wanders down the vegetable isle at the local grocery…hello love, fancy making a small fortune for a couple hours?
Guy sets down next to a woman at a bar and gets right down to it.
"Would you sleep with me for one millions dollars?"
"Uh, sure I would."
"How about twenty dollars?"
"What kind of a girl do you think I am?"
"We've already determined that, now we're haggling over the price."
Quote from: aitm on January 09, 2016, 01:59:50 PM
I can only imagine what horror you sent me…….brat. Why can't you gift an old man who may very well be dying of cancer at this very moment.
I swear, I haven't. :sad2: I was going to send a cackling witch, but couldn't find a suitable one. So didn't.
Never bought into that version of "morality" where a gal would be considered a whore for fucking for a million instead of 20. Hell, for a million bucks I could imagine a lot of things I would never consider for 20 bucks. Hell yeah.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on January 09, 2016, 02:03:22 PM
I swear, I haven't. :sad2: I was going to send a cackling witch, but couldn't find a suitable one. So didn't.
You could send me a picture of your ankle, I hear that is very suggestive to some men but have yet to see the excitable factor in it.
Quote from: aitm on January 09, 2016, 02:14:17 PM
You could send me a picture of your ankle, I hear that is very suggestive to some men but have yet to see the excitable factor in it.
I don't think a shot of an ankle would mean anything though, don't men like ankles when it's in good proportion with the body?
Quote from: drunkenshoe on January 09, 2016, 04:42:32 PM
I don't think a shot of an ankle would mean anything though, don't men like ankles when it's in good proportion with the body?
FINE! Then send me a pic of a boob, yer butt and an ankle. I'll decide if your ankle is proportional….okay? Sheesh
Seems like our male age demographic grew up with this fantasy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGVjoLlgHbM
Quote from: aitm on January 09, 2016, 02:13:11 PM
Never bought into that version of "morality" where a gal would be considered a whore for fucking for a million instead of 20. Hell, for a million bucks I could imagine a lot of things I would never consider for 20 bucks. Hell yeah.
Good for you and I hope you have fun.
Slightly relevant: I was in a bar in Vegas one time and I'd had enough to be rather brave. So when I laid eyes on this simply amazing blond in a tight white dress I decided to make a move. When it came down to it she said, "I can save you some time, I'm a prostitute." A few negotiations later we where on our way to my room.
The next night I drop by the same bar and the bartender waved me over.
"That blond, was she really a pro?"
"Nah, she was just playing out a fantasy."
"How do you know that?"
"She didn't ask for the money first. In fact I had to remind her before she left."
"Man, I really hate you, she was HOT!"
So, remember, "All who wander are not lost..."
apparently there was no winner in the Saturday draw.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/powerball-jackpot-no-winner_569208b9e4b0c8beacf75e29?cps=gravity_5035_1882154115474305188
Jackpot now at 1.3 billion. Might buy another ticket on Monday, just for the fuck of it.
Quote from: stromboli on January 10, 2016, 06:06:43 AM
apparently there was no winner in the Saturday draw.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/powerball-jackpot-no-winner_569208b9e4b0c8beacf75e29?cps=gravity_5035_1882154115474305188
Jackpot now at 1.3 billion. Might buy another ticket on Monday, just for the fuck of it.
I'll wait until late Wednesday, just to see if it has reached 2 billion. Hardly worth it until then, now is it.
I got one number so yeah,,,closing in on it….
Anyone ever see America-thon? If the jack pot gets big enough ... the winner gets the entire national debt. Lucky him! Your dollars today are debits, not credits ... that is why JFK had to die die die. People have been Pavlov-ed into trading debts. Give me cold pressed latinum instead (1st rule of acquisition, Ferengi).
I won $4! WHOOHOO!
Quote from: Mermaid on January 10, 2016, 10:49:39 AM
I won $4! WHOOHOO!
Spend it wisely. Or lattely, more likely.
I was off by 1 digit on 3 numbers and got the power ball right. I'm going to go sulk in a corner now.
Quote from: Shiranu on January 10, 2016, 12:15:19 PM
I was off by 1 digit on 3 numbers and got the power ball right. I'm going to go sulk in a corner now.
YOU WON $4!!!
Quote from: stromboli on January 10, 2016, 06:06:43 AM
Jackpot now at 1.3 billion.
Is that a record breaker for a jackpot size?
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 06, 2016, 08:04:17 AM
Tonight's Powerball lottery is going to be worth about $450 Million. A single winner choosing the cash option should take home about $150 after taxes. What would you do with that kind of money?
I don't know about the rest of you, but if I had to fork over $449999850 to the feds I'd be really pissed off and vote for a republican or something..
Quote from: Johan on January 10, 2016, 01:00:48 PM
Is that a record breaker for a jackpot size?
If the $1.3 billion stands it will be almost twice as big as the previous record holder.
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on January 10, 2016, 01:05:19 PM
I don't know about the rest of you, but if I had to fork over $449999850 to the feds I'd be really pissed off and vote for a republican or something..
It doesn't all go to the Feds. If you take the cash option they don't bank the money and give you payments based on the principal and interest, just one payment of the principle. It's set up so that the education fund gets more money that way as well. Long term annuity gives you and your state's education fund more money.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 10, 2016, 01:16:17 PM
It doesn't all go to the Feds. If you take the cash option they don't bank the money and give you payments based on the principal and interest, just one payment of the principle. It's set up so that the education fund gets more money that way as well. Long term annuity gives you and your state's education fund more money.
Which is kind of interesting, because thousands of Utahns go over the border to buy tickets, and any win by a Utahn benefits Idaho, not Utah. This is Mormonthink. Don't have the lottery because gambling, don't have legal pot because drugs, but they do have the lowest per capita amount of funding for schools, and kick the poor kids that can't afford school lunch to the curb.
Something like 110,000 people have moved to Colorado and their economy is booming. Other than the fundies in Rock Springs that are looking the other way at blown up abortion clinics and tacitly supporting the murder of clinic employees, its a largely progressive state. And for some reason the fundies can't see how a progressive, secular approach isn't vastly better than a religious one. The stupid is strong among them.
The cash option would really be stupid in this case. few fucks sake you would be getting 50 million a year….or sumpin like that. 50 million a year! You can't spend that.
Quote from: aitm on January 10, 2016, 02:40:33 PM
The cash option would really be stupid in this case. few fucks sake you would be getting 50 million a year….or sumpin like that. 50 million a year! You can't spend that.
Depending on whether you can pass on the money to survivors after you die- which I haven't seen mentioned anywhere- absolutely. But in my case, being 66 and not going to likely live 30 years nor gain any benefit for that long, the cash option could make sense. In any case its more money than I could spend on anything reasonable. Kids would be driving Ferraris, not me. If Bernie Sanders got the nomination I'd donate a chunk for the election, but that is about the only big ticket I could think of.
But I'll still buy another ticket, just for the fuck of it.
Quote from: stromboli on January 10, 2016, 02:47:08 PM
Depending on whether you can pass on the money to survivors after you die- which I haven't seen mentioned anywhere-
Thats what lawyers are for. With that kind of money you line up the kids over 18 and have them sign the ticket with you. Hell, plenty of moolah to go around.
800 million as the one time payout. Fucking overkill. My kids' kids, and THEIR kids, wouldn't even need Sanders' free community college.
Never thought I'd see a billion dollar lottery in my lifetime, but I suppose there are billions expecting a second coming of their lord & savior in their lifetime, so why not a billion in lottery winnings......
My descendants would be in for a very rude awakening if I ever hit this kind of money in a lottery because the vast majority of it would go into a foundation for various charities I would set up to build housing for people in need of cheap affordable housing and none of the market rate bullshit few can even afford. We're talking sandbag construction and other building options that don't include over paying on material and labor rates. You want a free house? Great! Grab a shovel and get busy or find someone willing to help you build the house. I'm pretty sure that I could develop a house under $10,000 that doesn't require an engineering degree to build.
My kids have jobs so they don't need the money and I'm not in the business of letting them live like the idle rich.
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on January 10, 2016, 08:37:11 PM
My descendants would be in for a very rude awakening if I ever hit this kind of money in a lottery because the vast majority of it would go into a foundation for various charities I would set up to build housing for people in need of cheap affordable housing and none of the market rate bullshit few can even afford.
Once you're rich you're no longer crazy. You can afford the title of eccentric. I would almost feel compelled to leave each close relative like $1000 and tell them to buy themselves something nice, and then find some mangy fucking cat at the animal shelter and leave the rest to it.
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on January 10, 2016, 08:37:11 PM
My descendants would be in for a very rude awakening if I ever hit this kind of money in a lottery because the vast majority of it would go into a foundation for various charities I would set up to build housing for people in need of cheap affordable housing and none of the market rate bullshit few can even afford. We're talking sandbag construction and other building options that don't include over paying on material and labor rates. You want a free house? Great! Grab a shovel and get busy or find someone willing to help you build the house. I'm pretty sure that I could develop a house under $10,000 that doesn't require an engineering degree to build.
My kids have jobs so they don't need the money and I'm not in the business of letting them live like the idle rich.
One of the worst things Mr Wall ever did for America, was leaving his corporation to his family members. Other than wanting to cover my daughter's medical bills, I really hope some young man will take care of her longer term. Being a regular person isn't a tragedy.
We're at Ludicrous, might as well go Plaid.
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Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 11, 2016, 05:37:14 AM
We're at Ludicrous, might as well go Plaid.
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I have decided not to drive to Idaho to buy a lottery ticket. That would be borderline plaid.
They already bumped up the estimate this morning to $1.4 billion ($868 million cash option)
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 11, 2016, 12:34:56 PM
They already bumped up the estimate this morning to $1.4 billion ($868 million cash option)
On second thought.....
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 11, 2016, 12:34:56 PM
They already bumped up the estimate this morning to $1.4 billion ($868 million cash option)
What do we have above "Plaid"?
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 11, 2016, 12:38:31 PM
What do we have above "Plaid"?
Paisley is just above. Polka dots are just below.
Quote from: SGOS on January 11, 2016, 01:09:43 PM
Paisley is just above. Polka dots are just below.
Paisley it is then, with chartreuse dominant, please.
Where does Tie Dye fall on this scale?
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Sick amount of money. Scary. :sad2:
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 11, 2016, 01:19:39 PM
Where does Tie Dye fall on this scale?
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Ah, I see the Bothans came through again.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 11, 2016, 01:29:57 PM
Ah, I see the Bothans came through again.
(https://memecrunch.com/meme/XBC1/many-bothans-died/image.png?w=500&c=1)
Just in case someone actually hits the big jackpot then goes crazy and gets sent to prison I'll send you a personalized prison spoon.. Razor sharp!
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The wife decided she wanted to go for a ride. Case closed.
Quote from: JBCuzISaidSo on January 10, 2016, 07:22:48 PM
800 million as the one time payout. Fucking overkill. My kids' kids, and THEIR kids, wouldn't even need Sanders' free community college.
Never thought I'd see a billion dollar lottery in my lifetime, but I suppose there are billions expecting a second coming of their lord & savior in their lifetime, so why not a billion in lottery winnings......
Yeah, but a billion dollar lottery jackpot was at least theoretically possible.
If I win I will give everyone in the world a million dollars......and a math book.
Quote from: aitm on January 11, 2016, 02:29:10 PM
If I win I will give everyone in the world a million dollars......and a math book.
:lol:
I just want a little apartment. 2+1. it is around 300-600 K in TL and 197 K in American dollars. Pretty please. *Grins.
If I win you people will never hear from me again.
But Strom, some people on this forum could use a job and somebody has to wipe your ass...
Quote from: stromboli on January 11, 2016, 03:22:19 PM
If I win you people will never hear from me again.
Naah, you'll eventually drop in.
Quote from: stromboli on January 11, 2016, 03:22:19 PM
If I win you people will never hear from me again.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on January 11, 2016, 05:41:00 PM
Naah, you'll eventually drop in.
Just to gloat, if nothing else.
Look, I *have* a job. All I want is a Cadillac, a CTS-V, white, coupe, to get to and from said job. I won't bug you for anything else, I swear.
Powerball simulator (http://graphics.latimes.com/powerball-simulator/)
I bet $22,000 and got back $2,000.
I bet $24.000 and won $2,000. Anybody thinking about spending a wad on Powerball this week should try the simulator for an evening first. It will get your feet back on the ground before you decide to blow the rent money.
Long time back when working with engineers, right after Idaho started selling lottery tickets, one of the engineers did some calculations about the odds versus purchase of tickets. And that was when the odds were considerably less than now. Worked out something like buying 100 tickets only incrementally increased your chances of winning, and that there was no conceivable way- other than having information not available to the lay person- that you could dramatically lessen the odds, short of buying thousands of tickets as some groups do.
Was up in Idaho buying my $20 random pick ticket. there was a guy in line in front of me spent $200 on tickets, another that had the lady selling the tickets punch in a bunch of personal choice numbers, about $200 worth- and stuff like that. This is at the place I bought the tickets, which is a gas station about 15 miles over the border in Preston Idaho. The closest place to Utah, a motor lodge with a gas station, had a line of cars half a mile long and literally no place to park, and I have a handicapped sticker on my car because of my wife's MS.
All told I have probably spent less than $160 on tickets in like 30 years, and the only time I buy them is when we travel and are in a state that sells them. I'm not making any special attempts from now on in any case, but yes I did go guy one. Won't do it again. Too much insanity attached.
Powerball has to have a negative expected outcome or it wouldn't be profitable.
I get the feeling that people who don't play think that the people who do play are using their kids' food money to play.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 12, 2016, 01:21:04 AM
I get the feeling that people who don't play think that the people who do play are using their kids' food money to play.
Whether they think that or not, one thing is for sure. Lots of people who don't play tend to look down their noses at the people who do. And they also tend to be not at all shy about voicing their opinion of the intelligence level of the people that do play.
Quote from: Hakurei Reimu on January 11, 2016, 11:12:15 PM
Powerball has to have a negative expected outcome or it wouldn't be profitable.
This. Every lottery game. It's actually selling dreams and hope, not tickets.
Quote from: Johan on January 12, 2016, 03:11:59 AM
Whether they think that or not, one thing is for sure. Lots of people who don't play tend to look down their noses at the people who do. And they also tend to be not at all shy about voicing their opinion of the intelligence level of the people that do play.
I farted once. I guess that makes me guilty of causing global warming?
If some idiots are mentally deprived enough to waste major money on a pipe dream, what is the difference between Vegas, scratch and win or the office football pool? Fine with me. Used to work with an old lady who was a clerk at Hill AFB that went to Vegas every weekend with her hubby and blew money on slots. BFD, I'm not socially responsible to intervene, condemn or condone or set an example.
So if anyone has a problem with who buys lottery tickets or not, its their problem not mine.
I got a lottery ticket yesterday for my birthday. I've never had a lottery ticket before and I'm not even sure how it works.
Quote from: GSOgymrat on January 12, 2016, 12:04:46 PM
I got a lottery ticket yesterday for my birthday. I've never had a lottery ticket before and I'm not even sure how it works.
Send it to me, I'll check it for you.
Just for the record, I'm not sure if my comment about spending the rent money caused the discussion about people looking down their noses at lottery players. Years ago, I did play the lottery regularly (five tickets twice a week). I don't look down my nose at lottery players. It was fun pretending like I had a chance in Hell of winning, and I enjoyed that part of it. But some people do look down their noses at lottery players. Fuck em'.
Quote from: GSOgymrat on January 12, 2016, 12:04:46 PM
I'm not even sure how it works.
Yeah, me too. I'm gonna go to the website, I guess, and make sure I understand how to do it.
I do have a couple of bucks I can use to play it - after all, a thousand million $ is a lot of money, and I can do a lot of good with it, maybe.
I think I may try the numbers 1 2 3 4 5 6, since that combination has just as much chance of being picked as any other.
Actually, I did play the Lotto once, when they first started it, just to say I'd played it. Long time ago, though, and I expect it's changed a bit over the years.
I'll bet a lot of people pick 1 2 3 4 5 6. It's as good as any other, but if it comes up, you're going to share the pot with thousands of others. Since those numbers aren't any more/less likely to come up than something else, it might be wiser to pick more random numbers. I haven't thought this through, but it just crossed my mind. I always let the machine pick the numbers for me.
Had I been around a convenience store in the last couple of days, I would have bought a couple tickets, but I've been busy working on the house, and haven't left the property in three days, and it wasn't pressing enough for me to make the trip to town.
I actually took a scientific approach when I first bought tickets to look at way to lessen odds. Then you hear the stories of winners that only bought one ticket and stories about groups that bought thousands and didn't win. I ran a series of numbers, did all that, and it turns out that the odds of winning are about as great for a single draw as they are for a hundred draws.
I'm not a gambler, but I know a couple. One was fairly successful (now dead) the other a major loser (still breathing air that should be somebody else's) Either way they don't think like us. The loser brags about how much money he won in Vegas and is driving an 88 Oldsmobile into its third paint job and living off a bogus insurance claim. Trust me, I'm not one of those.
Quote from: SGOS on January 12, 2016, 05:25:18 PM
I'll bet a lot of people pick 1 2 3 4 5 6. It's as good as any other, but if it comes up, you're going to share the pot with thousands of others. Since those numbers aren't any more/less likely to come up than something else, it might be wiser to pick more random numbers. I haven't thought this through, but it just crossed my mind. I always let the machine pick the numbers for me.
I bet if those numbers did come up, there'd be an outcry of umbrage from those who believe (or are told) that the thing must've been rigged.
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Quote from: stromboli on January 12, 2016, 05:35:32 PM
It turns out that the odds of winning are about as great for a single draw as they are for a hundred draws.
They must be a little higher. But then how much greater is your percentage of winning when you buy 100 tickets. 100 or 1 in an environment approaching infinity, isn't significant.
Still, I'd buy two. At least your chances of winning must be twice as good. Although, that still doesn't work out to 50/50.
Quote from: stromboli on January 12, 2016, 05:35:32 PM
I'm not a gambler, but I know a couple. One was fairly successful (now dead) the other a major loser (still breathing air that should be somebody else's) Either way they don't think like us. The loser brags about how much money he won in Vegas and is driving an 88 Oldsmobile into its third paint job and living off a bogus insurance claim. Trust me, I'm not one of those.
There were a number of compulsive gamblers I've met in various AA groups I used to frequent. I couldn't relate to them. I lived in Arizona near the Nevada border for a year back in the 70s. I've been to Vegas, and played the slots. Ten dollars would last a couple of hours in the nickel machines. Lots of coins going in and coming out. It was a good time, but when I went through my ten dollars, I would go home, but never once with my ten dollars. That wasn't the point of the evening.
I had a friend in Arizona who was a desk clerk at a Holiday Inn. One day he told me that the night before, some guy spent the night in the lobby, after losing his car in Vegas.
My cousin was a gambler. He used to go to Vegas quite a bit and play in slot machine tournaments or play cards. His buddy was a compulsive. Then one day his buddy, who my cousin had been telling me about for years, lost everything, including his house and his car. My cousin had better self control. I've gambled, but never expected to win. It was fun, but I never related to whatever urge people get to never stop.
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 12, 2016, 05:46:14 PM
I bet if those numbers did come up, there'd be an outcry of umbrage from those who believe (or are told) that the thing must've been rigged.
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Probably. Getting the numbers to go in that order is so unlikely, that it would have to be rigged. Of course, random numbers are just as unlikely.
Quote from: SGOS on January 12, 2016, 06:03:35 PM
Probably. Getting the numbers to go in that order is so unlikely, that it would have to be rigged. Of course, random numbers are just as unlikely.
One day, the winning number for the Pick 3 was 000. There was a lot of grumbling at work. A common theory is that the lottery commission decides what numbers will win ahead of time and that quick picks are adjusted to fail. Also, that scratch-offs with that little white strip at the bottom are winners (except when they're not). Not the brightest people I've ever encountered.
06, "The Game" Michigan v Ohio State ,Bo Schembechler, legendary coach of Michigan died that very day, Ohio won the game like 42-38, 400 some people bet those numbers on their 4 pick game and the numbers came up. Lotto had to pay out over 2 million. Coincidence? I think ……so.
Quote from: SGOS on January 12, 2016, 06:01:25 PM
They must be a little higher. But then how much greater is your percentage of winning when you buy 100 tickets. 100 or 1 in an environment approaching infinity, isn't significant.
Still, I'd buy two. At least your chances of winning must be twice as good. Although, that still doesn't work out to 50/50.
There were a number of compulsive gamblers I've met in various AA groups I used to frequent. I couldn't relate to them. I lived in Arizona near the Nevada border for a year back in the 70s. I've been to Vegas, and played the slots. Ten dollars would last a couple of hours in the nickel machines. Lots of coins going in and coming out. It was a good time, but when I went through my ten dollars, I would go home, but never once with my ten dollars. That wasn't the point of the evening.
I had a friend in Arizona who was a desk clerk at a Holiday Inn. One day he told me that the night before, some guy spent the night in the lobby, after losing his car in Vegas.
My cousin was a gambler. He used to go to Vegas quite a bit and play in slot machine tournaments or play cards. His buddy was a compulsive. Then one day his buddy, who my cousin had been telling me about for years, lost everything, including his house and his car. My cousin had better self control. I've gambled, but never expected to win. It was fun, but I never related to whatever urge people get to never stop.
My limit is $20 ... inflation ;-) Never gambled more. People are addicted to the chemicals in their head. Chemical stimulation or activity stimulation ... stimulates those brain chemicals you already have ... that is the high. Gamblers get high, like a dry drunk.
I think I remember that one has a better chance of being attacked by land sharks than winning the lottery. But I bought 5 tickets anyway, just to keep peace in the family. :))
Another simulator.. http://powerball-simulator.com/
It took me 5 years and $1000 to win $80 not counting the $920 loss.. and gas to get to the store to buy the tickets..
My dad has me go buy tickets for him so I always tell the clerk he's 87 years old so make sure they're winning tickets. He'll never live long enough to spend it..
Of course, what the odds actually mean depend on the data set you apply it to: Powerball jackpot odds (1 in 292,201,338, per the website) mean I have an infinitesimal chance of winning the big money.
But Powerball jackpot odds applied (for no reason other than for argument's sake and discounting all the technical details like unsuitably variable stars or those too close to the core) as the chance of intelligent life for any star in this galaxy would mean around 1000 stars hosting intelligent life -- which I would consider to be a lot for a galaxy this size.
Were I to win the lottery, I would remember all of you.......
......for about the length of time it took me to grab my coat, the car keys and burn rubber to Idaho.
Well, I bought a ticket. I wanted to get a completely random mix of numbers, so I put them in a box and drew them randomly. I hope it works.
I've got this weird feeling of knowing I won't win and at the same time knowing that I will win. I only have a 50% chance of winning, since either I'll win or I won't. I guess 50-50 odds is pretty good...
I wonder if praying will do any good?
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Quote from: Unbeliever on January 13, 2016, 04:23:17 PM
I wonder if praying will do any good?
Only if win the god lottery and pick the right one.
Yeah, fat chance of that, huh?
Probably worse odds than hitting the Powerball lottery...
Wife comes home all excited and finds her husband, as usual, in front of the TV. She exclaims "Pack your bags, I won the lottery!"
"Wow, that's great, where we goin'?"
"I don't care where you go, just get out of here!"
(http://img.picturequotes.com/2/49/48409/i-have-great-faith-in-fools-selfconfidence-my-friends-call-it-quote-1.jpg)
One winner in California. May be more.
Quote from: stromboli on January 14, 2016, 02:05:00 AM
One winner in California. May be more.
How obnoxious; you already live in one of the most beautiful states in the Union AND win the lottery? That's like giving Donald Trump a couple hundred million dollars. Give it to someone trying to get out of like... Goatfuck Tennesse or Inbredville Alabama...
Quote from: stromboli on January 14, 2016, 02:05:00 AM
One winner in California. May be more.
I feel a need for a moment of silent contemplation, "......." Unfortunately, my mind can not remain silent for long, and out of the silence comes, "Why didn't I win the lottery? I hate that guy."
One ticket bought about 5 miles from my home which exponentially increases the chances of me knowing the person which increases the odds of them being kind to me cause after all, who doesn't like me?
So.....there's that.
Haven't talked to my brother yet but he had a ticket, and he buys them from "a" Publix in Melbourne. I'm not holding my breath, but there's still hope...
I heard the winner in Chino is going to buy Chihuahua. (The state, not the dog.)
From what I know about Chihuahua, probably doable. With enough money left over for tequila for everyone who hasn't figured out how to GTFO. And Chihuahuas aren't dogs. They are noisy and annoying varmints.
Quote from: stromboli on January 14, 2016, 10:53:19 AM
From what I know about Chihuahua, probably doable. With enough money left over for tequila for everyone who hasn't figured out how to GTFO.QuoteYeah, been there. Spent a month there one day.
And Chihuahuas aren't dogs. They are noisy and annoying varmints.
Canus rodentus.
Been to Mexico. I do know there are vast tracts of available land that nobody wants.
A few pretty good reasons to not play the lottery.. http://usuncut.com/news/5-reasons-why-the-lottery-is-a-massive-swindle-that-preys-on-the-poor/
The best reason to not play? It's fixed and there's nothing you can do about it other than not play.
Cool, a lottery conspiracy theory.
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 13, 2016, 04:23:17 PM
I've got this weird feeling of knowing I won't win and at the same time knowing that I will win. I only have a 50% chance of winning, since either I'll win or I won't. I guess 50-50 odds is pretty good...
I think I know why I had so much cognitive dissonance yesterday:
According to the
quilted patchwork multiverse model (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse#Level_I:_Beyond_our_cosmological_horizon) of the existence, "I"
did in fact win, in an infinite number (oxymoron?) of Hubble volumes, but this particular "I" happens to reside in one of the
other infinity of Hubble volumes, where "I"
didn't win. That's probably a higher level of infinity, too, since there must be many more Hubble volumes where "I" didn't win than where "I" did win.
But that's just one level of
multiverse (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse), the others are a bit more theoretical, and
perhaps less likely to exist.
Nevertheless, "I" both did and didn't win, as did all of us.
(http://i.imgur.com/ShpgJQG.png)
Not only did all us win, but we won an infinite number of times. Of course we lost an infinite number of times too...
This is the conversation that happened in my house this morning at around 5:00am between my husband and myself...
Me: Do you want the good news or the bad news?
Him: Uuuuuuuuggggh?...
Me: We didn't win the powerball.
Him: Yeah, I know. What's the good news?
Me: We'll stay humble and appreciate the things we have.
We both paused, threw our heads back and laughed, and left the house before the sun came up.
Spooky, huh? Like action at a distance...
(http://nga.gov.au/Exhibition/SOFTSCULPTURE/Graphics/SPOOKY.png)
But we can comfort ourselves with all the misery that will now befall the winners. A lottery ticket ain't no ticket to paradise.
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 14, 2016, 06:15:19 PM
Not only did all us win, but we won an infinite number of times. Of course we lost an infinite number of times too...
And an infinite number of us were hit by a bus on the way to claim the prize.
Quote from: trdsf on January 14, 2016, 07:28:33 PM
And an infinite number of us were hit by a bus on the way to claim the prize.
On CNN a stat expert said that a person had a more likely chance to be hit by a bus and lightening at the same instant. That must be the bus you are referring to. :))
That is what I like about infinity. There's plenty to go around.
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 14, 2016, 06:20:36 PM
Spooky, huh? Like action at a distance...
(http://nga.gov.au/Exhibition/SOFTSCULPTURE/Graphics/SPOOKY.png)
All force fields, like politics, are local. Ripples in the underlying field, those propagate at some finite velocity. In differential equations, you have the steady state solution (field) and the transient solution (wave) ... the sum of which is the solution.
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on January 14, 2016, 03:29:55 PM
A few pretty good reasons to not play the lottery.. http://usuncut.com/news/5-reasons-why-the-lottery-is-a-massive-swindle-that-preys-on-the-poor/
The best reason to not play? It's fixed and there's nothing you can do about it other than not play.
The first lottery, was invented by that famous swindler, Casanova ... who created it to help King Louis of France gather more francs from the citizenry.
Quote from: stromboli on January 14, 2016, 08:53:03 PM
That is what I like about infinity. There's plenty to go around.
You can take two infinities, subtract them, and get a finite answer. It's called QFT...;-)
Quote from: josephpalazzo on January 15, 2016, 09:07:34 AM
You can take two infinities, subtract them, and get a finite answer. It's called QFT...;-)
Lol, the shit I learn on here.
Quote from: josephpalazzo on January 15, 2016, 09:07:34 AM
You can take two infinities, subtract them, and get a finite answer. It's called QFT...;-)
So if I won in an infinite number of realities and lost in an infinite number of realities and they cancel each other out does that mean I don't really exist?
In an infinite number of realities I am a rich, handsome stud with many girl friends and every conceivable form of wealth. So why am I (me here and now) not that guy? Further proof god hates us?
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 15, 2016, 01:07:11 PM
So if I won in an infinite number of realities and lost in an infinite number of realities and they cancel each other out does that mean I don't really exist?
We don't really know what an infinite number means, so I'll pass on that...:-)
Quote from: trdsf on January 14, 2016, 07:28:33 PM
And an infinite number of us were hit by a bus on the way to claim the prize.
Yeah, this multiverse stuff doesn't seem very useful, huh?
Quote from: stromboli on January 15, 2016, 01:13:42 PM
In an infinite number of realities I am a rich, handsome stud with many girl friends and every conceivable form of wealth. So why am I (me here and now) not that guy? Further proof god hates us?
Since there are far more ways for you to be not-rich than there are for you to be rich, you're just shit out of luck, I guess. :)
Quote from: josephpalazzo on January 15, 2016, 01:40:59 PM
We don't really know what an infinite number means, so I'll pass on that...:-)
Actually, I think the phrase "infinite number" is an oxymoron, since no number is associated with infinity.
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 15, 2016, 05:57:42 PM
Actually, I think the phrase "infinite number" is an oxymoron, since no number is associated with infinity.
"The cardinality of a finite set is a natural number: the number of elements in the set. The transfinite cardinal numbers describe the sizes of infinite sets."
The transfinite cardinal number equal to the set of all natural numbers ... is the smallest transfinite cardinal number. There are an infinite number of transfinite cardinal numbers that are bigger than that one ... including "continuum" which is the cardinal number matching the set of all real numbers.
Quote from: Baruch on January 15, 2016, 08:56:53 PM
"The cardinality of a finite set is a natural number: the number of elements in the set. The transfinite cardinal numbers describe the sizes of infinite sets."
The transfinite cardinal number equal to the set of all natural numbers ... is the smallest transfinite cardinal number. There are an infinite number of transfinite cardinal numbers that are bigger than that one ... including "continuum" which is the cardinal number matching the set of all real numbers.
That's exactly what I keep telling these guys.
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 15, 2016, 05:57:42 PM
Actually, I think the phrase "infinite number" is an oxymoron, since no number is associated with infinity.
You're lucky Cantor is already dead...
Quote from: josephpalazzo on January 16, 2016, 02:47:18 PM
You're lucky Cantor is already dead...
Studying infinity drove Cantor insane ;-(
That's a myth:
QuoteThe objections to Cantor's work were occasionally fierce: Henri Poincaré referred to his ideas as a "grave disease" infecting the discipline of mathematics, and Leopold Kronecker's public opposition and personal attacks included describing Cantor as a "scientific charlatan", a "renegade" and a "corrupter of youth." Kronecker objected to Cantor's proofs that the algebraic numbers are countable, and that the transcendental numbers are uncountable, results now included in a standard mathematics curriculum. Writing decades after Cantor's death, Wittgenstein lamented that mathematics is "ridden through and through with the pernicious idioms of set theory," which he dismissed as "utter nonsense" that is "laughable" and "wrong". Cantor's recurring bouts of depression from 1884 to the end of his life have been blamed on the hostile attitude of many of his contemporaries, though some have explained these episodes as probable manifestations of a bipolar disorder.
The harsh criticism has been matched by later accolades. In 1904, the Royal Society awarded Cantor its Sylvester Medal, the highest honor it can confer for work in mathematics. David Hilbert defended it from its critics by declaring: "No one shall expel us from the Paradise that Cantor has created."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Cantor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Cantor)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejwrxGs_Y_I
There are always multiple causes. I didn't say that academic hate was the cause ... you did ;-) I said contemplating infinity was a cause. But it is probably not possible to think yourself to death ... just ask Dr Boltzmann.
Buz Lightyear is my favorite Toy Story character ... and Jessie ;-)