Man charged with setting Houston mosque fire says he was a devout attendee (http://www.chron.com/houston/article/Federal-officials-arrest-man-in-connection-with-6727623.php)
QuoteA Houston man has been arrested in connection with a suspected arson at a mosque on Christmas Day, but the motive for the crime remains a mystery, with the suspect maintaining he was a regular at the mosque.
A spokeswoman for the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives confirmed that the suspect, 37-year-old Gary Nathaniel Moore of Houston, was arrested early Wednesday. Moore appeared in court at 7 a.m., spokeswoman Nicole Strong said, and bond was set at $100,000.
According to a charging instrument released by the Harris County District Clerk, Moore told investigators at the scene that he has attended the storefront mosque for five years, coming five times per day to pray seven days per week.
Moore said he had been at the mosque earlier on Dec. 25 to pray, and had left at about 2 p.m. to go home, according to authorities and court papers. Moore said he was the last person to leave the mosque and saw no smoke or other signs of fire when he departed, authorities said. He maintained he had returned to the scene after hearing about the fire from a friend.
MJ Khan, president of the Islamic Society of Greater Houston, which operates the mosque, said he was unfamiliar with Moore. "We are just looking into it ourselves," he said Wednesday morning after learning of the arrest.
"We are really very surprised and saddened by this whole thing," said Khan.
Surely Dick Cheney in one of his many CIA disguises ;-)
I don't get the significance of this news. Is it that he is a muslim? (Duh)
If we assume the basic information given is correct, it doesn't take an expert to see that it is a very typical, ordinary arson and he sounds like a very standard arsonist. Boring.
He burned down a building when it is empty. Highly likely he thinks the people in that community -whose common point is that mosque- were unfair to him or damaged his reputation...etc. Mosque is where muslim men gather to discuss, chat, not just preaching. It's basically the gathering house where everyone has a place in a social hierarchy of its own.
A very overwhelming percentage of arsonists do not intend to harm people, just property connected to those people who they believe were unfair to them. They cope very badly with suffering relations and have a deep victimhood complex.
If we are going to argue that 'he is an extremist arsonist and a terrorist, because he is a muslim' -with this information- that is going to be difficult considering he burned down an empty mosque, not a church.
Quote from: Baruch on December 31, 2015, 12:22:44 AM
Surely Dick Cheney in one of his many CIA disguises ;-)
Nobody is dead, it is not CIA. :tongue:
Just to clear up that it wasn't a Muslim hater arsonist like everyone assumed at the time.
But who put him up to it? Why?
Quote from: pr126 on December 31, 2015, 03:35:09 AM
But who put him up to it? Why?
Why do you assume somebody put him up to it? I'm not being a smart ass, it really sounds like a boring standard arson case, pr. It could be anything, because it looks personal.
First thing I looked in the article was the man being from another sect or some information about that kind of a blood vengeance, but that would require a life loss. The key thing is the building being empty. It's not mercy, it's just the profile.
I am thinking someone says - wait until the place is empty, we don't want casualties. - but that's jut me.
Insurance? Framing others?
It will come out in the end.
There were precedents of insiders causing damage to mosques in the past.
Quote from: pr126 on December 31, 2015, 04:03:05 AM
I am thinking someone says - wait until the place is empty, we don't want casualties. - but that's jut me.
Insurance? Framing others?
It will come out in the end.
Insurance is a good one. But framing others with one fire without no body count? In the US, if it is not big enough to go national, there is no real payback. Also no body count -esp. if no dead Christians- no national coverage or attention. Who would care that an empty mosque burned down? Did it even take any attention in that state?
Also mosques could be empty at a lot of time in between prayers.
Framing non Muslims is also a win, knowing the media hysteria in the US and anywhere else, who are all to glad to cater to Muslim victimology.
CAIR feeds on that.
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2015/12/28/anti-muslim-hate-upswing-2015-closes-out
https://www.rt.com/usa/327130-houston-mosque-suspected-arson/
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/12/26/3735082/mosque-fire-being-investigated/
Fallback line "some people just like to watch the world burn, master Grayson"
Quote from: pr126 on December 31, 2015, 04:39:32 AM
Framing non Muslims is also a win, knowing the media hysteria in the US and anywhere else, who are all to glad to cater to Muslim victimology.
CAIR feeds on that.
I'm sure they are doing it, pr. I'm just saying you need body count for that.
Quote from: pr126 on December 31, 2015, 03:35:09 AM
Just to clear up that it wasn't a Muslim hater arsonist like everyone assumed at the time.
But who put him up to it? Why?
Arson happens all the time in the US. Also simply bad electrical wiring. Because churches are statistically more common, it happens more often to church buildings. Though the rate for African-American churches is elevated, for obvious reasons. The majority of mosques in the US are African-American as well ... though I don't know about this particular congregation.
Man charged with setting Houston mosque fire says he was a devout attendee:
http://www.chron.com/houston/article/Federal-officials-arrest-man-in-connection-with-6727623.php
And now this. Will the Islamophobia never stop?
FBI offers $5,000 reward after bacon found at Vegas mosque (http://news.yahoo.com/fbi-offers-5-000-reward-bacon-found-vegas-034142868.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=tw)
QuoteLAS VEGAS (AP) â€" The FBI is offering a $5,000 reward for information that helps them find the person who put raw bacon on the door handles of a Las Vegas mosque.
The FBI said in a statement Wednesday that agents are trying to find the man seen in a surveillance video putting the meat on the entrances of the Masjid-e-Tawheed mosque. Authorities call it a desecration of the Islamic worship center.
The Quran, the holy book of Islam, prohibits Muslims from eating pork, and pigs have been used to taunt or offend Muslims.
Both the FBI and Las Vegas police say they're investigating the case as a possible hate crime.
Las Vegas police spokesman Larry Hadfield said the bacon was wrapped on the door knobs, and was also found on the ground and fences.
Officials at the mosque couldn't immediately be reached for comment.
The FBI said the incident happened about 3:15 a.m. Dec. 27. The culprit is described as a white man wearing a dark blue hat, jacket and black-framed glasses. He had black or dark brown hair with long, thin sideburns.
The site west of the Las Vegas Strip wasn't damaged, and no one was hurt. The mosque was empty at the time, and the case was reported by members who came to worship later that morning.
Several threatening incidents at mosques have been reported in recent weeks. A Molotov cocktail went off at an Islamic center in Tracy, California, days ago, and a severed pig's head was found outside a Philadelphia worship site earlier this month.
You know PR, growing up Mormon it would never occur to me that one day bacon could be the cause of open hostility. There is no fucking way any science fiction writer in the 50's could ever have dreamed up this weirdness.
If Islam is peaceful, then why are people so phobic about it? It doesn't make sense.
BTW, Jewish cardiologist have banned bacon for a good reason 5000 years ago.
In Caesarea, in 66 CE, the deliberate profanation of the entrance to the local synagogue by Gentiles, was the reason for the disastrous Jewish revolt. So yes, unfortunately some events are blown out of proportion.