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Title: Forecast For 2050: Atheism Is Down, Islam Is Rising
Post by: josephpalazzo on December 28, 2015, 10:02:22 AM
http://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2015/12/25/460797744/a-religious-forecast-for-2050-atheism-is-down-islam-is-rising?utm_source=npr_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=20151225&utm_campaign=news&utm_term=nprnews


Islam ftw...
Title: Re: Forecast For 2050: Atheism Is Down, Islam Is Rising
Post by: stromboli on December 28, 2015, 10:35:20 AM
Quote from: josephpalazzo on December 28, 2015, 10:02:22 AM
http://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2015/12/25/460797744/a-religious-forecast-for-2050-atheism-is-down-islam-is-rising?utm_source=npr_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=20151225&utm_campaign=news&utm_term=nprnews


Islam ftw...

Yup.
Title: Re: Forecast For 2050: Atheism Is Down, Islam Is Rising
Post by: TomFoolery on December 28, 2015, 10:43:40 AM
It would seem that the answer ironically lies with the non-religious taking a cue from fundamentalist playbooks of varying faiths: if you can't outsmart 'em, outbreed 'em.
Title: Re: Forecast For 2050: Atheism Is Down, Islam Is Rising
Post by: stromboli on December 28, 2015, 10:54:25 AM
Ooh lucky us, facing a future of a world dominated by illiterate semi literate, deeply inbred rapists and murderers screaming because they are incapable of performing in any real way other than to pray 5 times a day and give birth to a never ending supply of deformed babies. Mankind will inherit the stars fer sure fer sure.
Title: Re: Forecast For 2050: Atheism Is Down, Islam Is Rising
Post by: Baruch on December 28, 2015, 10:59:00 AM
If the 20th century didn't cure you of the illusion of progress ... nothing will.  Malthus trumps iPhones.

The poor will always be with us ... so better like the poor, or be the poor.  Being rich is ... so last millennium.
Title: Re: Forecast For 2050: Atheism Is Down, Islam Is Rising
Post by: Baruch on December 28, 2015, 11:00:24 AM
Quote from: TomFoolery on December 28, 2015, 10:43:40 AM
It would seem that the answer ironically lies with the non-religious taking a cue from fundamentalist playbooks of varying faiths: if you can't outsmart 'em, outbreed 'em.

Religiosity is a recurring theme in human psychology.  Atheist parents don't necessarily produce atheist offspring.  Cuts the other way, for the religious types ... 5% of their children will be irreligious too.
Title: Re: Forecast For 2050: Atheism Is Down, Islam Is Rising
Post by: Valigarmander on December 28, 2015, 04:31:10 PM
A few things to note about the study:

(http://i.imgur.com/ervTAVu.png)

When it comes to changing beliefs, people are overwhelmingly leaving religion altogether. The bulk of growth in world religions is due to the religious having much higher fertility rates than the nonreligious.

The majority of religious growth is occurring in developing parts of the world. Sub-Saharan Africa will experience the greatest increase in population by 2050, and at that point will be home to 4 out of 10 of the world's Christians. Much of the growth in nonreligious is concentrated in the developed world: the religiously unaffiliated in Europe and North America will expand from 18.8 and 17.1% of the total local population to 23.3 and 25.6%, respectively.

(http://i.imgur.com/vaeMDZH.png)
Title: Re: Forecast For 2050: Atheism Is Down, Islam Is Rising
Post by: Baruch on December 28, 2015, 04:51:56 PM
Time is cyclic, not linear.  Any swing one way, will be followed by a swing back.  In the long run at least, all individuals are dead, if not the human species, and won't care about this.  I certainly don't care what the religious demographic changes in Rwanda are this week.  Also all projections are ... questionable.  Extrapolation is not our friend.
Title: Re: Forecast For 2050: Atheism Is Down, Islam Is Rising
Post by: josephpalazzo on December 28, 2015, 04:52:39 PM
Quote from: Valigarmander on December 28, 2015, 04:31:10 PM
A few things to note about the study:

(http://i.imgur.com/ervTAVu.png)

When it comes to changing beliefs, people are overwhelmingly leaving religion altogether. The bulk of growth in world religions is due to the religious having much higher fertility rates than the nonreligious.

The majority of religious growth is occurring in developing parts of the world. Sub-Saharan Africa will experience the greatest increase in population by 2050, and at that point will be home to 4 out of 10 of the world's Christians. Much of the growth in nonreligious is concentrated in the developed world: the religiously unaffiliated in Europe and North America will expand from 18.8 and 17.1% of the total local population to 23.3 and 25.6%, respectively.

(http://i.imgur.com/vaeMDZH.png)

I don't know if this going to help but Africa is being split into two parts by plate tectonic activity, but won't help in the near future... :-(
Title: Re: Forecast For 2050: Atheism Is Down, Islam Is Rising
Post by: Munch on December 28, 2015, 05:46:24 PM
"By the end of the century in 2050"

Mrs Whitehead needs to go back to school :p
Title: Re: Forecast For 2050: Atheism Is Down, Islam Is Rising
Post by: Unbeliever on December 29, 2015, 06:43:54 PM
Quote from: TomFoolery on December 28, 2015, 10:43:40 AM
It would seem that the answer ironically lies with the non-religious taking a cue from fundamentalist playbooks of varying faiths: if you can't outsmart 'em, outbreed 'em.

Yeah, religion seems to be a war of attrition - the most fruitful multipliers will win in the end. And the end may be very near...
Title: Re: Forecast For 2050: Atheism Is Down, Islam Is Rising
Post by: Baruch on December 29, 2015, 09:34:44 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on December 29, 2015, 06:43:54 PM
Yeah, religion seems to be a war of attrition - the most fruitful multipliers will win in the end. And the end may be very near...

It is like in Highlander, but with Arabs instead of Scots.  Last one not decapitated wins ;-)