http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/donald-trump-is-white-isis-says-trevor-noah-20151209
QuoteNoah then tossed it to Daily Show senior political correspondent Hasan Minhaj, who agreed with Trump's Muslim ban, if only because the United States is not a safe place for Muslims right now. "One-third of a major political party in America is backing a racist maniac. This place is scary right now," Minhaj said. "Donald Trump is an extremist leader who came out of nowhere, he's self-financed, recruits through social media, attracts his followers with a radical ideology to take over the world and is actively trying to promote a war between Islam and the West … That's right Trevor, Donald Trump is White ISIS."
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Joking aside... the bold part is why I am so critical of certain posters rhetoric. Like the article says earlier... "Everybody has the right to be crazy. What worries me is that people are following the crazy.". This lie after lie after lie after lie about how Muslims are coming to destroy our way of life... how they and Islam "the greatest threat to the world today" (and that is a quote I remember several people here who aren't on the far-loony side of PR and Baron saying)... this is one thing to say and another thing to then practice.
That rhetoric frankly has no place in a civilized society... that a huge minority of the country is "the greatest threat to the world today"... a minority that does not have a high percentage in jail, a minority who is "taking over our culture" yet are not converting at any particularly high rate nor growing at as high of rate (1 percent now... estimated 2 percent in 2050) as groups like Hispanics (who are Catholic)... there is just so much fear rhetoric that is unfortunately propelling fuckwads like Trump and the rest of the Republican frontrunners into the spotlight.
Think about that for just a second; we now live in a country where an entire party can say... "Yes I would take away Muslims rights and force them to wear identifications... pay special taxes... because they are Muslim!" We live in a country where the fear rhetoric has become that socially acceptable that we are saying fellow human beings should be treated as second class citizens because they are scary and a small percentage of them (radicalized by violence we have been a part of or funded for over a hundred years now) are dangerous. We live in a country where we talk about freedom and exceptionalism and then want to turn around and say... "But only if you look like us... think like us... pray like us!".
I'm sorry but if that doesn't make you stop and question "Should I really be saying Muslims are the greatest threat to humanity? Are they REALLY going to be the downfall of all civilization and bring about a thousand years of darkness?" then I cant help but wonder just how ignorant you are to what you are actually saying. When you are saying these things... you are saying that what Trump and the Republicans say has validity; that we have to treat our Muslims like they are scum. That we have to start bombing more Muslim countries because they are "dangerous". That WASP culture is the dominant culture and everyone else is wrong and we are right and hoorah.
And if you believe those things... if you truly believe Muslims are as big of threat as you say... then yes... you should 100 percent be backing Trump on this issue. I really believe that; if you are serious about your rhetoric then you have to accept that while he takes it too far perhaps... he is on the right track.
QuoteWe live in a country where the fear rhetoric has become that socially acceptable that we are saying fellow human beings should be treated as second class citizens because they are scary and a small percentage of them (radicalized by violence we have been a part of or funded for over a hundred years now) are dangerous.
This is precisely my bone of contention with a small but vocal group of Americans who see Muslims as interchangeable with ISIS, consistently prey upon ignorance and fear to spread hate far and wide (which ironically, is the modus operandi of the jihadists), and then act surprised when bad things come of it.
Once there was The Greening Of America ...
but the lawn turned brown and died ... because of lack of living water ;-( Consumerism has consequences.
Quote from: Hydra009 on December 09, 2015, 03:29:07 PM
This is precisely my bone of contention with a small but vocal group of Americans who see Muslims as interchangeable with ISIS, consistently prey upon ignorance and fear to spread hate far and wide (which ironically, is the modus operandi of the jihadists), and then act surprised when bad things come of it.
There's also danger of thought crime. Repression of populations that have not actually infringed the self-determination of anyone but merely expressed disagreeable thoughts. Ideas are fought with ideas. This goes for both sides the islamists and the islamophobes. They should be allowed to speak and the people should be responsible of keeping their minds clean of bad ideas. Trying to repress ideas by force just escalates the conflict.
(http://i.imgur.com/pUS69Lb.jpg)
Expressing dislike of fearmongers/hatemongers =/= advocating for Thought Police
^ Indeed. The furthest I would advocate for is "Argument Referees." Like the above. :)