Faisal Mohammad: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know (http://heavy.com/news/2015/11/faisal-mohammad-uc-university-of-california-merced-stabbing-attacker-suspect-name-victims-condition-facebook-page/)
QuoteAn 18-year-old named Faisal Mohammad “had a smile on his face†as he stabbed four people at a University of California campus in Merced, according to witnesses. He was shot and killed by campus police officers who responded to the school after hearing about the attack. The incident occurred on the morning of November 4 in the town of Merced, just over 100 miles west of San Jose. A statement from the school said that the attack happened outdoors on the campus in front of the Classroom and Office Building. Later it emerged that the stabbing began inside of a classroom and spilled out into the front of the building.
You will be relieved to know that the incident had nothing to do with Islam.
Although it could have been an SJS. (
Sudden jihad syndrome)
Your point is?
Quote from: facebook164 on November 05, 2015, 03:45:13 PM
Your point is?
we have a "how often do you shit and fart" thread…incredibly it has nearly 300 posts, proving we don't need no stinking point.
What I don't like is that the suspects frequently don't survive long enough to be interrogated. The CIA/FBI don't want any more folks admitting that the CIA/FBI put them up to it in the first place ;-(
Someone attacking a school... I am sure that never happens from other groups, or at the very least with an astronomical higher frequency...
*Pondering intensifies*
Quote from: aitm on November 05, 2015, 06:00:23 PM
we have a "how often do you shit and fart" thread…incredibly it has nearly 300 posts, proving we don't need no stinking point.
Questions about digestion is important for many so I can see there is points to that discussion
Here I sense that the posters wants to push its anti-arab agenda. But cannot see any such angle.
QuoteHere I sense that the posters wants to push its anti-arab agenda.
To be fair to PR, I don't think the location of where they are from is of much concern to him.
Quote from: facebook164 on November 05, 2015, 03:45:13 PM
Your point is?
The point is, that if the perpetrator was a non Muslim, would you still have written "Your point is?"
The perp had a 2 page "manifesto" on him, which would clarify motive.
If that is not published, why not?
Attacker’s manifesto reveals plan to kill ‘a lot of people’ (http://www.mercedsunstar.com/news/local/education/uc-merced/article43126323.html)
Quote from: pr126 on November 06, 2015, 01:04:03 AM
The point is, that if the perpetrator was a non Muslim, would you still have written "Your point is?"
If you had pointed out he listened to death metal music, was an avid GTA player, worshiped Satan or some other likely irrelevant detail with a social agenda, probably yeah.
Quote from: pr126 on November 06, 2015, 01:04:03 AM
The point is, that if the perpetrator was a non Muslim, would you still have written "Your point is?"
Absolutely. Cause i see no argument for anything. Just news.
Unfortunately, when the perp's name is Mohammed, it is all to easy for the bigoted racist Islamophobes to jump to the wrong conclusions.
Which is totally unwarranted with Islam's spotless peaceful and tolerant image.
I suppose the mistake was to reveal the name of the assailant.
The media should have just called him a student.
No need to go into specifics. Too much information only causes confusion.
Quote from: facebook164 on November 06, 2015, 12:33:30 AM
Questions about digestion is important for many so I can see there is points to that discussion.
well certainly I am sure it was all about digestion.
Zip tie handcuffs. I need some of those to go with my survival gear. Less bulky than handcuffs. See, I learn shit on here every day.
Quote from: pr126 on November 06, 2015, 01:35:32 AM
Unfortunately, when the perp's name is Mohammed, it is all to easy for the bigoted racist Islamophobes to jump to the wrong conclusions.
Which is totally unwarranted with Islam's spotless peaceful and tolerant image.
I suppose the mistake was to reveal the name of the assailant.
The media should have just called him a student.
No need to go into specifics. Too much information only causes confusion.
I think that you are implying, that the law would go less hard on this "dead" suspect, if he was Christian? I see no evidence for that. The law took his life, no trial necessary. Now if you want to get a license for KKK hunting, and start mounting red necks on the hood of your pickup truck ... I am all for that ;-)
Baruch wrote:QuoteI think that you are implying, that the law would go less hard on this "dead" suspect, if he was Christian?
Actually I was implying the opposite. My sarcasm was too subtle for the Internet.
Quote from: pr126 on November 06, 2015, 12:33:25 PM
Baruch wrote:
Actually I was implying the opposite. My sarcasm was too subtle for the Internet.
Not necessarily. My wit may be dull today. I see what you mean now. Well in the US, a shooter/stabber would be "religion free" if they are not a Muslim. It is a bit like ... real news is when the postman bites the dog. In the US, being a Muslim perp is even more unsafe than being a non-Muslim perp ... but that doesn't mean we go easy on any perps.
As far as this perp goes, we will never know the extent of this guilt or innocence. Sentence has already been carried out.
Quote from: Baruch on November 06, 2015, 02:39:20 PM
As far as this perp goes, we will never know the extent of this guilt or innocence. Sentence has already been carried out.
The US criminal justice system has quite enough trouble dealing with the suspects that are still alive. Does pr expect it to take on the dead ones now?
There has been a long standing policy in US jurisprudence to not try dead people. Lee Harvey Oswald was never tried for killing John F. Kennedy, because Jack Ruby killed him before it went to trial. What would be the point? What point would there be to sentence Oswald to death for assassinating Kennedy when he's already dead? The only reason why the Warren commission went ahead in the first place is because of Kennedy, not because of Oswald.
There will be no trial of Faisal Mohammad because there's no point trying a dead man.
Some more details on the stabbings.
Campus stabber's manifesto included 'praise for Allah,' plan for beheading (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/11/06/campus-stabber-manifesto-included-praise-for-allah-plan-for-beheading/?intcmp=hpbt1)
QuoteA handwritten manifesto carried by a California college student whose stabbing spree Wednesday left four wounded bore names of his targets, a vow “to cut someone’s head off†and as many as five reminders to “praise Allah,†law enforcement authorities told FoxNews.com, while insisting that neither terrorism nor religion appear to be motives in the attack.
In the two-page document found in Faisal Mohammad’s pocket by the county coroner, the 18-year-old freshman wrote a numeric list outlining his plans of who he wanted to kill, and how, including beheading and shooting his victims, Merced County Sheriff Vern Warnke told FoxNews.com
“No. 27 was to ‘make sure people are tied down,’ No. 28 was “sit down and praise Allah,'†Warnke said. “I remember seeing four or five times, scribbled on the side of the two-page manifesto, where he wrote something like ‘praise Allah.
One curious detail:
QuoteMohammad's family has not come forward and attempts to locate them were unsuccessful.
Quote from: Hakurei Reimu on November 06, 2015, 05:22:06 PM
The US criminal justice system has quite enough trouble dealing with the suspects that are still alive. Does pr expect it to take on the dead ones now?
There has been a long standing policy in US jurisprudence to not try dead people. Lee Harvey Oswald was never tried for killing John F. Kennedy, because Jack Ruby killed him before it went to trial. What would be the point? What point would there be to sentence Oswald to death for assassinating Kennedy when he's already dead? The only reason why the Warren commission went ahead in the first place is because of Kennedy, not because of Oswald.
There will be no trial of Faisal Mohammad because there's no point trying a dead man.
Judge Roy Bean of Texas, supposedly once tried a dead man .. but that was in the Wild West.
Also there is now evidence that the perp was perturbed by being exiled from the school study group he was in. Maybe he was exiled because it was apparent he was a blood thirsty psychotic. Most of our school shootings are by blood thirsty psychotics.
Hakurei Reimu wrote:QuoteDoes pr expect it to take on the dead ones now?
Certainly not. What are you thinking? :a102:
On the contrary. By shooting the perp it saved a lot of tax payers money on trial and prison.
Quote from: pr126 on November 06, 2015, 01:35:32 AM
Unfortunately, when the perp's name is Mohammed, it is all to easy for the bigoted racist Islamophobes to jump to the wrong conclusions.
Which is totally unwarranted with Islam's spotless peaceful and tolerant image.
I suppose the mistake was to reveal the name of the assailant.
The media should have just called him a student.
No need to go into specifics. Too much information only causes confusion.
How do you now this guy was muslim? Faisal mohammed is just a fuckin name, not a declaration of religious or political beliefs.
QuoteHow do you now this guy was muslim? Faisal mohammed is just a fuckin name, not a declaration of religious or political beliefs.
You are right.
His "manifesto" is no indication at all. Shouting "Allahu Akbar" is neither. Praying to Allah is a misdirection.
Quote“There was nothing to indicate he was doing this because of Allah, or because he was going to be rewarded with 72 virgins, or because of ties to a terror group,†Warnke said. “He appeared to be a devout Muslim, on the strong side of the belief.â€
Clearly he was an Amish.
How is your reading comprehension?
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Quote from: pr126 on November 07, 2015, 12:56:45 AM
Hakurei Reimu wrote:
Certainly not. What are you thinking? :a102:
On the contrary. By shooting the perp it saved a lot of tax payers money on trial and prison.
We could save even more money with massive Fema camps ... but only if you go first ;-)
If someone was writing "praise Jesus" the same way Faisal was writing "praise Allah," I'd be just as worried.
Now that we supposedly have atheist religious nutcases joining in the shooting spree fun now, I'm willing to cut religions of all stripes a little bit of slack.
http://www.mcntvnews.com/was-law-enforcement-and-uc-chancellor-aware-of-threat-by-terrorsitsextremists-to-attack-uc-merced/
QuoteUnfortunately the tragic event at UC Merced illustrates just how our law enforcement leaders have not learned from their past mistakes and may have jeopardized the lives of an entire classroom in doing so. What I am about to tell you has been confirmed by three independent law enforcement officials, all who cannot be named for fear of losing their jobs/pensions. The conversations I have engaged in compel me to believe that we are not being told the truth about the incident at our UC Merced and just who the suspect was.
A witness who wishes to remain anonymous stated that they had seen what appeared to be a picture of an ISIS flag which was pulled out of the suspect’s pocket. Two of my law enforcement sources have verified that this is in fact true and that the UC Chancellor along with the FBI and DHS have instructed our local media and our local law enforcement leaders to feed the current narrative that FM was a disgruntled student instead of what he actually was… an extremist Muslim bent on attacking American students in the name of ISIS. And their reasoning for not informing Merced County residents or our out-of-town students and their parents about these potential threats to their lives? According to all three law enforcement sources the information was withheld because it would be bad for business. Protecting four innocent people’s lives and the truth was bad for business.
QuoteWe know that law enforcement leaders will frown upon us because of this story but we are not here to please everybody. We are here to tell you, Merced County, the information that helps keep you safe, allows you to make informed community decisions, and helps create a better place for all to live. From this story we hope that the people of Merced County will demand better information from the other local media who have ignored the real story they have been given because, well they just don’t give a damn. And we do hope you will start making phone calls tomorrow to every CA politician that represents you. Call every media outlet that’s supposed to tell you. And call every law enforcement leader who is tasked with protecting you and ask them simply, “Why did you fail to inform me of the truth?â€
Oh, so just normal official corruption then .. nothing to see here .. move on
Quote from: pr126 on November 07, 2015, 02:25:24 AM
You are right.
His "manifesto" is no indication at all. Shouting "Allahu Akbar" is neither. Praying to Allah is a misdirection.
Clearly he was an Amish.
How is your reading comprehension?
Very good, but you have failed to produce that information in this thread.
Quote from: facebook164 on November 08, 2015, 04:06:54 PM
Very good, but you have failed to produce that information in this thread.
I didn't have to. The information is in the thread already.
Read it again. Slowly, word by word, loud if you have to.
QuoteA witness who wishes to remain anonymous stated that they had seen what appeared to be a picture of an ISIS flag which was pulled out of the suspect’s pocket. Two of my law enforcement sources have verified that this is in fact true and that the UC Chancellor along with the FBI and DHS have instructed our local media and our local law enforcement leaders to feed the current narrative that FM was a disgruntled student instead of what he actually was… an extremist Muslim bent on attacking American students in the name of ISIS.
Although I would change the word "extremist" to devout.
It is not "extremist" practicing one's faith according to the laws of the religion.
What we do not want to acknowledge, or even say publicly is, that this particular religion's laws
commands eternal warfare, calling it Jihad, or holy war and the killing of non Muslims, which is the religious DUTY of EVERY Muslim.
Of course not every Muslim is required to do jihad in battle (qital), there are many ways to do jihad without participating in armed combat .
Those who are killed in combat are assured a first class ticket to jannah. Others have to take pot luck.
Admitting that is something is seriously wrong with Islam is not an option.
Quote from: pr126 on November 09, 2015, 12:37:46 AM
I didn't have to. The information is in the thread already.
Read it again. Slowly, word by word, loud if you have to.
Although I would change the word "extremist" to devout.
It is not "extremist" practicing one's faith according to the laws of the religion.
Yes it is. A christian that followed the laws of the religion as written in the Bible would be a very extremist indeed.
Even a US citizen that followed every US law to the point would probsbly be seen as an extremist...
Facebook164 wrote:QuoteYes it is. A christian that followed the laws of the religion as written in the Bible would be a very extremist indeed.
Even a US citizen that followed every US law to the point would probsbly be seen as an extremist...
Do not EVER dare to make a post, any post about Islam without including Christianity.
You have been warned! :96:
Wait. OK, you did. :bravo_2: