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Title: Turkey: Bomb massacre kills 86 and injures over 100 at pro-Kurdish peace rally
Post by: drunkenshoe on October 10, 2015, 10:24:06 AM
Warning: The video in this article shows the moment a bomb explodes at the peace rally killing at least 86 people and injuring over 120. Contains distressing scenes

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/turkey/11923935/Turkey-Ankara-bomb-kills-30-at-pro-Kurdish-rally.html

Ankara is the caital city. 186 injuris last count 22 is heavy. E: The Turkish Medical Association just reported 90 deaths, oer 400 injuries.

Ireally don't knowanything this is so fuckng monstrous....fuck everything.

QuoteA bomb attack on a march in the Turkish capital Ankara has killed 86 people and injured more than 100 others, the country's health minister said.
The explosion was captured by a cameraman at the second that the bomb went off. Video posted online showed the blast ripping through a crowd of flag-waving demonstrators calling for peace in the fighting between the government and the Kurdish guerrilla group the PKK.
The demonstrators in the front of the crowd, who had linked hands, flinched and bowed their heads at the force of the blast from the fireball behind them.

There has been no claim of responsibility as yet for Saturday morning's attack, but it may have been the work of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.
The organisers of the demonstration were supporters of the Kurdish political party, the HDP, and left-wing secular sympathisers. Their Kurdish allies in Syria and Iraq have been fighting fierce battles with Isil militants in neighbouring Syria.
Kurdish groups are also likely to point the finger at the Turkey's Islamist government, which is accused of tacit support for Isil and has also fought a long-running war with armed Kurdish separatists.
The PKK had just announced a unilateral ceasefire in the current upsurge of fighting. That seemed in part at least designed to boost support for the HDP in parliamentary elections next month.
Those elections are crucial for the future of the ruling AKP, a moderate Islamist party, and President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. If the HDP win ten per cent of the vote, it will repeat its feat in June elections which led to a stalemate by winning seats in parliament and most probably preventing the AKP winning a majority.
It will almost certainly stop AKP pushing through constitutional changes that would hand more powers to Mr Erdogan.

Videos from the concourse in central Ankara showed more than a dozen bodies on the bloodied ground, several of them draped in banners the yellow HDP colours demanding an end to the state’s three decade-long battle with Kurdish militants.

"We heard one huge blast and then one smaller explosion and then there was a a great movement and panic. Then we saw corpses around the station," said one witness, Ahmet Onen.
"A demonstration that was to promote peace has turned into a massacre - I don't understand this," he added, in floods of tears.
Political leaders reacted with outrage. "We are faced with a huge massacre. A barbaric attack has been committed," the HDP leader, Selahattin Demirtas, said.

Saturday's bomb was the fourth such attack to rock Kurdish targets inside Turkey in a year, underlining the depth of the challenge facing Mr Erdogan in restoring security to a country destabilised by war in neighbouring Syria.
Ahmet Davutoglu, the prime minister was due to hold an emergency meeting with the heads of the police and intelligence agencies and other senior officials later on Saturday, his office said.

Although the cause of Saturday’s blast was not immediately clear unclear, local media posited the involvement of a suicide bomber. The speculation evoked an earlier attack on a meeting of mostly Kurdish activists in the border town of Suruc in which 33 people were killed.

That attack inflamed tensions between Kurdish citizens and the Turkish government. It also hastened the end of a three-year long ceasefire between the state and the PKK.
Nationalist violence had torn at the nation’s delicate social fabric in recent months, threatening broad civil unrest just before early elections in November.

Many Kurds accused Turkish authorities of collaborating with Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant jihadists in Syria, allegations Ankara vehemently denies. Turkey says over 140 members of the security forces have been killed in PKK attacks since and have hit back with a relentless bombing campaign against the group.
Turkish police fired into the air to disperse protesters from the scene, prompting cried of "police murderers" from the crowd.
Title: Re: Turkey: Bomb massacre kills 86 and injures over 100 at pro-Kurdish peace rally
Post by: Mermaid on October 10, 2015, 10:43:34 AM
I hate people.
Title: Re: Turkey: Bomb massacre kills 86 and injures over 100 at pro-Kurdish peace rally
Post by: GrinningYMIR on October 10, 2015, 11:28:24 AM
What does this accomplish? Unless they're hoping to make the PKK and turkey fight again I don't see what the government spiel gain from this, maybe ISIS is trying it which would make turkey too busy to fight them and force Kurds to fight elsewhere but, the government may use this as an excuse to crack down more

I don't know, it's too muddy
Horrific
Title: Re: Turkey: Bomb massacre kills 86 and injures over 100 at pro-Kurdish peace rally
Post by: Baruch on October 10, 2015, 12:00:51 PM
America isn't the only place with violent crazies ... not all of whom are in government service.  Turkey, like everyplace ... has my sympathy.  It is almost as if MI6 is still fighting the last war, the one from 1914 ... working to further break up the Ottoman Empire, something GB and France and Russia have been working on for several hundred years.  I would characterize Turkey as a bigger version of a small ME country ... one with internal divisions that are exploited by its larger neighbors.  Only now those neighbors aren't just local, they are global (thanks NWO).
Title: Re: Turkey: Bomb massacre kills 86 and injures over 100 at pro-Kurdish peace rally
Post by: jonb on October 10, 2015, 12:19:26 PM
Quote from: Baruch on October 10, 2015, 12:00:51 PM
America isn't the only place with violent crazies ... not all of whom are in government service.  Turkey, like everyplace ... has my sympathy.  It is almost as if MI6 is still fighting the last war, the one from 1914 ... working to further break up the Ottoman Empire, something GB and France and Russia have been working on for several hundred years.  I would characterize Turkey as a bigger version of a small ME country ... one with internal divisions that are exploited by its larger neighbors.  Only now those neighbors aren't just local, they are global (thanks NWO).

That is your story not history
(http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/04/11/12n_charge,0.jpg)
I think you may find you are charging the wrong cannons.
Title: Re: Turkey: Bomb massacre kills 86 and injures over 100 at pro-Kurdish peace rally
Post by: Baruch on October 10, 2015, 12:23:15 PM
War is always a glorious mistake, at best ;-(  I wouldn't support the military, except for all those other crazies who do, who speak a different language etc.
Title: Re: Turkey: Bomb massacre kills 86 and injures over 100 at pro-Kurdish peace rally
Post by: Shiranu on October 10, 2015, 12:39:33 PM
Great...
Title: Re: Turkey: Bomb massacre kills 86 and injures over 100 at pro-Kurdish peace rally
Post by: aitm on October 10, 2015, 01:59:12 PM
No interest in watching the vid but Shoe I heard your gov shut down media communications. Is that true?
Title: Re: Turkey: Bomb massacre kills 86 and injures over 100 at pro-Kurdish peace rally
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on October 10, 2015, 05:21:01 PM
This is terrible. People seeking peace are often targeted by those who have the most to gain from war.
Shoe I'm very sorry this is happening in your country.
Title: Re: Turkey: Bomb massacre kills 86 and injures over 100 at pro-Kurdish peace rally
Post by: drunkenshoe on October 11, 2015, 12:14:58 PM
I don't know what do you mean, aitm? I haven't noticed anything and I am in front of the comp all day.

But yes, they would do anything and certainly expected in this situation. They learned that they need it in the big protests in 2013.
Title: Re: Turkey: Bomb massacre kills 86 and injures over 100 at pro-Kurdish peace rally
Post by: drunkenshoe on October 11, 2015, 12:18:00 PM
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on October 10, 2015, 05:21:01 PM
This is terrible. People seeking peace are often targeted by those who have the most to gain from war.
Shoe I'm very sorry this is happening in your country.

:sad2: My mind is numb. I am trying to occupy myself with work or other stuff or with AF.

You wouldn't believe the scale of bullshit going on tv, media... etc. Finally, I broke down and started to cry last night. I don't feel good. 
Title: Re: Turkey: Bomb massacre kills 86 and injures over 100 at pro-Kurdish peace rally
Post by: Baruch on October 11, 2015, 02:36:29 PM
Sympathy ... if you can take it in.  Anatolia has been at war since the days of the Hittites or even Catal Huyuk.
Title: Re: Turkey: Bomb massacre kills 86 and injures over 100 at pro-Kurdish peace rally
Post by: Green Bottle on October 11, 2015, 05:13:36 PM
Sorry to hear about this Shoe, hope your ok an stay safe....

Found this on Facebook earlier
Quote
''In the wake of a horrific suicide bombing in the Turkish capital city of Ankara today, Twitter said that users across Turkey were struggling to access the social network. Scattered reports suggest that internet access is also limited''

http://pontiactribune.com/turkey-breaking-news-this-week/


Title: Re: Turkey: Bomb massacre kills 86 and injures over 100 at pro-Kurdish peace rally
Post by: SilentFutility on October 11, 2015, 05:44:35 PM
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on October 10, 2015, 11:28:24 AM
What does this accomplish? Unless they're hoping to make the PKK and turkey fight again I don't see what the government spiel gain from this, maybe ISIS is trying it which would make turkey too busy to fight them and force Kurds to fight elsewhere but, the government may use this as an excuse to crack down more

I don't know, it's too muddy
Horrific

They are already fighting.
Title: Re: Turkey: Bomb massacre kills 86 and injures over 100 at pro-Kurdish peace rally
Post by: Munch on October 12, 2015, 04:20:32 AM
This is bloody horrific  :(
Hope your coping well shoe, know it sounds cold but try your best to focus on other things, I remember the London underground bombings and how much it turned my guts up seeing the reports, worried like shit about my aunt. It helps to get your mind off it for a while.
Title: Re: Turkey: Bomb massacre kills 86 and injures over 100 at pro-Kurdish peace rally
Post by: drunkenshoe on October 12, 2015, 04:31:20 AM
Trying to cope. It doesn't sound cold, Munch. You are right that I should focus on other things. I am trying.
Title: Re: Turkey: Bomb massacre kills 86 and injures over 100 at pro-Kurdish peace rally
Post by: baronvonrort on October 12, 2015, 04:47:02 AM
English subtitles on this one.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni8W_WT5KDk
Title: Re: Turkey: Bomb massacre kills 86 and injures over 100 at pro-Kurdish peace rally
Post by: Baruch on October 12, 2015, 05:48:06 AM
The authorities had the same plans for Occupy.  So does the US support the Islamists in Turkey or not?

Anyway, it has seemed for several years, that Turkey is headed for civil war ... though I hope they will return to something less militant.
Title: Re: Turkey: Bomb massacre kills 86 and injures over 100 at pro-Kurdish peace rally
Post by: drunkenshoe on October 12, 2015, 06:14:21 AM
Quote from: Baruch on October 12, 2015, 05:48:06 AM
So does the US support the Islamists in Turkey or not?

What do you think? A secular Turkiye is not usable. How are they going to use it?