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Title: Guess which country does the most good for the world?
Post by: drunkenshoe on September 26, 2015, 04:43:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X7fZoDs9KU

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Country_Index

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_LraysM-ZnMTk-sD5u67eLfTLJOIJ1_dDA_x2FRr7IY/edit?pli=1#gid=628162124


It's not new. It's 17 mins 54 secs. I have just seen it. It's actually pretty good as in what it focuses on. Something most people would just dismiss.





Title: Re: Guess which country does the most good for the world?
Post by: Solitary on October 04, 2015, 03:27:54 PM
If we all love and work together we can survive and make the world a better place. It is hate, prejudice, bigotry, and greed that is destroying the world we live in, most of it supported by ancient and ridiculous religions and magical thinking. 
Title: Re: Guess which country does the most good for the world?
Post by: CrucifyCindy on October 04, 2015, 03:37:35 PM
Quote from: Solitary on October 04, 2015, 03:27:54 PM
If we all love and work together we can survive and make the world a better place. It is hate, prejudice, bigotry, and greed that is destroying the world we live in, most of it supported by ancient and ridiculous religions and magical thinking.

Isn't this "magical thinking"? Somehow if we all start to magically start loving each other the world will magically become a better place. If that isn't magical thinking then I don't know what is. It's never going to happen, so just accept it. And it isn't religion or magical  thinking that makes us hate and discriminate against each other...it's our genetics.
Title: Re: Guess which country does the most good for the world?
Post by: Shiranu on October 04, 2015, 04:58:37 PM
Ireland was a bit surprising, I thought Belgium would be a little higher, but all-in-all I like his overall points and particularly the wanting to live in a "good" over "rich" or "happy" country. I do think there is likely a pretty strong correlation though between "happy" and "good", moreso than "good" and "rich".

Title: Re: Guess which country does the most good for the world?
Post by: stromboli on October 04, 2015, 05:18:27 PM
Ireland was a surprise, but the Scandinavian countries being in the top 10 wasn't. In terms of the qualifications given, not surprised by any of it. But as stated in the wikipedia article, there is a lot of criticism to the index.

We are a naturally competitive species. There will always be those that succeed better than others and those that do harm. A truly egalitarian society in my opinion is a pipe dream, but we can at least try.
Title: Re: Guess which country does the most good for the world?
Post by: Mike Cl on October 04, 2015, 06:16:05 PM
Was a little surprised that the US finished as high as it did.  The others were not a surprise. 
Title: Re: Guess which country does the most good for the world?
Post by: Shiranu on October 04, 2015, 07:47:48 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on October 04, 2015, 06:16:05 PM
Was a little surprised that the US finished as high as it did.  The others were not a surprise. 

For all the shit we do, we do contribute huge amounts in humanitarian aid and technology. I think that helps offset it.
Title: Re: Guess which country does the most good for the world?
Post by: Draconic Aiur on October 04, 2015, 11:59:21 PM
104 countrys hate USA but we are gooder than them
Title: Re: Guess which country does the most good for the world?
Post by: drunkenshoe on October 05, 2015, 06:42:16 AM
Quote from: Mike Cl on October 04, 2015, 06:16:05 PM
Was a little surprised that the US finished as high as it did.  The others were not a surprise.

That's because there is no authority powerful enough to evaluate the US international politics of the last 70 years and it's results and consequences. Not to mention nobody would take it seriously or make it a TED talk.

This is mainstream.

Title: Re: Guess which country does the most good for the world?
Post by: Mike Cl on October 05, 2015, 09:01:57 AM
Quote from: Shiranu on October 04, 2015, 07:47:48 PM
For all the shit we do, we do contribute huge amounts in humanitarian aid and technology. I think that helps offset it.
Yeah, so I've been told all my life.  But I wonder how much of that 'humanitarian' aid gets to the people who need it???  And technology is not given away.  Corps make money from it.
Title: Re: Guess which country does the most good for the world?
Post by: stromboli on October 05, 2015, 09:17:35 AM
Altruism anybody? In my mind the question is not so much what is done but the motives behind it. You would probably have to look at each act of giving by a country in terms of what they expected to get back in return. Doctors Without Borders is altruistic. The food being airlifted into Berlin during the postwar blockade was altruistic. Foreign aid isn't if it has the purpose of creating a situation of being owed in return by the receiving country.

Title: Re: Guess which country does the most good for the world?
Post by: Baruch on October 05, 2015, 12:45:37 PM
Altruism?  According to St Ayn Rand ... altruism is Marxist-Lenininism and must be opposed by naturally superior blond-blue-eyed uber-menschen.  A less blood-thirsty altruism is Castro's Cuba ... and we know how much Castro is Satan incarnate, right?
Title: Re: Guess which country does the most good for the world?
Post by: jonb on October 12, 2015, 05:11:22 PM
I have through the help of you guys started to understand how you see the world.
So I present you with this little map of how I think you Americans understand our world.

(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll236/jonber/american-map-of-the-world_zpsqe4d98sb.gif)
Title: Re: Guess which country does the most good for the world?
Post by: Draconic Aiur on October 12, 2015, 05:42:47 PM
IRISH WHISKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Guess which country does the most good for the world?
Post by: Baruch on October 12, 2015, 07:12:54 PM
Obviously the best country is Texas ;-)

Jonb ... proper cartoon Americans/Texans are like those on King Of The Hill.  Like all good Americana, it is dead and buried ;-(

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_the_Hill