This is such a beautiful story. *wipes tear*
http://gawker.com/family-values-activist-josh-duggar-had-a-paid-ashley-ma-1725132091
I can't believe I'm about to play the Devil's advocate and profess the idea that Josh Duggar might not be a complete slimeball, but when I first heard this story, I honestly didn't believe it. I still don't know if I do. It just feel "too perfect." The fact that it's a paid account looks pretty damning, but I don't know. I guess I just want to believe that no one could be so obviously hypocritical and stupid. It really does feel too obvious.
My first thought too made me think of something someone I knew once threatened to do as a joke. In the Army, I had this platoon sergeant who was a real dick, and one of my battle buddies wanted to sign him up for some sick goat porn websites using his professional military email. I'm assuming he never made good on the threat, but it's a scary thought, you know? I would imagine it would be tough to prove you didn't author an account years after the fact.
I just think it's easy to want to believe the worst about a homophobic bigot, and hell, maybe he really is that stupid and really did do it. I dunno.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4vIBijzg4w
I'd say having a paid account indicates at best the intent to cheat, but then I think that sort of cheating matters least. He molested five underaged girls, 4 which were his own sisters! Now the true motivation for having so many children comes to light. He had his own Haremfull thing going.
Sounds a bit too good to be true.
I have no reaction to this revelation. After careful self-analysis I realize the reason I have no reaction is because these people mean nothing to me.
Meh from what I've read the overwhelming majority of Ashley Madison subscribers were men and most of the female accounts were suspected to be fake. Based on that, I'd say the only think Josh Duggar is likely guilty of in this case is being horny and unconscionably stupid.
Also FWIW, i've been happily married for over 10 years, but I setup a Farmers Only account a few years ago. I didn't and wouldn't pay for it but my morbid curiosity wanted to see how many of the ads on the site looked fake (most of them).
I never went to the Ashley Madison site, but knowing what I know about men and they things we're capable of when we're horny, it would not shock me if that site was structured so that only paid members could see ads. That's the way I'd build it if I owned a site like that. Which again makes me think the most likely thing Josh was guilty of was being unbelievably stupid.
I tried the place but the scam is that in order to get to the front of the listings, you have pay the premium, and I wasn't going to do that. So I gave it a month but when your listed 526480 it may be hard to get attention.
If it proves true, can't say I'm surprised. There's a special flavor of hypocrisy practiced by these aggressively holier than thou types.
Put me on record as not actually giving one rats ass about Josh Dugger's online life.
It's just too beautiful. Josh made a public statement today that he is the "world's biggest hypocrite" and admitted to cheating on his wife and being addicted to porn.
http://www.duggarfamily.com/michelles-blog?ID=181b81dc-471b-4bff-ae3e-7becfc87c911
Meanwhile, his parents are asking for your prayers.
The people who judge the most vehemently are generally the one's guilty and trying to cope with their guilt.
Quote from: Mermaid on August 20, 2015, 05:56:49 PM
It's just too beautiful. Josh made a public statement today that he is the "world's biggest hypocrite" and admitted to cheating on his wife and being addicted to porn.
http://www.duggarfamily.com/michelles-blog?ID=181b81dc-471b-4bff-ae3e-7becfc87c911
Meanwhile, his parents are asking for your prayers.
There are... There are simply no words. No words that can describe how incredibly happy this makes me.
Below is the extensive list of worries I have about the Dugger family
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I'm sorry. I can't think of anything else.
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on August 20, 2015, 08:16:10 PM
Below is the extensive list of worries I have about the Dugger family
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I'm sorry. I can't think of anything else.
Well, they've started this cycle of geometric progression because they have 19 kids, and now their kids are starting to have kids, and they don't have any income anymore. That sorta concerns me. In a few generations, they will fill the earth.
Maybe their church will take care of them.
I don't understand what is so unbelievable about this for you guys. A lot of those dating sites need a payed membership to work best, so it's not that big of a surprise. Even Plenty of Fish and OKCupid work best when you have a premium account.
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We already heard how Josh Duggar molested a bunch of people, so this isn't nearly surprising. Too good to be true? I don't even think it's that much of a big deal for someone to have an account with Ashley Madison for it to be "too good to be true"... so that point is moot with me I guess.
At some point, maybe it was a year ago, that some study revealed shocking news on Muslim-dominated cultures. It turned out that they, who couldn't stand the sight of a woman's naked face, much less her bare arms or any other part not covered up are the largest consumers of online porn per capita. Therefore, the most sexually repressed Christian cultures could not be far behind...errrr...behind. :-D
A lot of religious people hide behind religion as though it will serve as a protective shield against their wrong doings. Or that no one will suspect them of wrong doings. Or believe them. Catholic priests got away with that mentality for a long time. The truth is, the Duggar family is deeply troubled and lost. And when there is so much repression, control and dysfunction under one roof due to radical religious beliefs, the end result can be frightening.
I guess I really just don't care about the Duggars.
I don't care about a lot of things lately.... I wonder if I'm moving to a phase of existentialism...
Eh. It doesn't matter.
A "family values" campaigner is a complete and total hypocrite?
I'm shocked. SHOCKED! THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE IN THE HISTORY OF EVER!!!
Quote from: PickelledEggs on August 20, 2015, 10:11:58 PM
I don't understand what is so unbelievable about this for you guys. A lot of those dating sites need a payed membership to work best, so it's not that big of a surprise. Even Plenty of Fish and OKCupid work best when you have a premium account.
PLUS
We already heard how Josh Duggar molested a bunch of people, so this isn't nearly surprising. Too good to be true? I don't even think it's that much of a big deal for someone to have an account with Ashley Madison for it to be "too good to be true"... so that point is moot with me I guess.
It is very much not unbelievable to me. It's poetic justice since he was a professional bigot before all this broke.
Any way to fact check this?
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on August 21, 2015, 08:13:10 AM
Any way to fact check this?
You mean besides for the admission of guilt by the piece of shit in question?
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on August 21, 2015, 10:36:16 AM
You mean besides for the admission of guilt by the piece of shit in question?
Yeah, I don't believe anything the publicity hound says.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on August 21, 2015, 10:41:40 AM
Yeah, I don't believe anything the publicity hound says.
The released records include 2 separate accounts with credit cards in Duggar's name with billing addresses associated with the Duggar family. Could they be fake? Yea I guess so. Could they be fraudulent as in identity theft? That's possible too. But with the credit card information coupled with the admission I see no reason to doubt if he had accounts with the Ashley Madison service. Be skeptical if you want, but there's a difference between skepticism and denialism.
I think this is sort of important because it is unbeliavably in the open and...lol it couldn't be more perfect. If we consider there is a great amount of people who support these kind of families, public figures it is always a good thing that they go down like this.
And another uber Christian suffers the same fate.
http://www.popsugar.com/moms/Christian-Vlogger-Sam-Rader-Cheating-Ashley-Madison-38171066
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on August 20, 2015, 08:16:10 PM
Below is the extensive list of worries I have about the Dugger family
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I'm sorry. I can't think of anything else.
I don't think I have any worries about the Dugger family themselves. My concern with them has much more to do with the fact that they are celebrities and, up until recently, earned a healthy living from being their judge mental bigoted ecologically irresponsible Dugger selves.
Quote from: Mermaid on August 20, 2015, 05:56:49 PM
Meanwhile, his parents are asking for your prayers.
Why? If I had a prayer, it's that this load of smug, holier-than-thou bigots would go down in (metaphorical) flames, and hey presto, my virtual prayer got answered! The only thing I got left to 'pray' for is that Antonin Scalia gets caught in bed with two Doberman Pinschers and several tins of Spam, and promptly retires to "spend more time with his family".
That family has to be so sexually frustrated. No wonder they have 19 kids and counting. They treat sex as if its something 'sinful'. (And at the same time treat women like dirt) If his wife had any sense, she'd leave him and that horrible family, but if she had any sense she'd have done that a long time ago.
Quote from: NakedTracyBlack on August 22, 2015, 11:19:52 AM
That family has to be so sexually frustrated. No wonder they have 19 kids and counting. They treat sex as if its something 'sinful'. (And at the same time treat women like dirt) If his wife had any sense, she'd leave him and that horrible family, but if she had any sense she'd have done that a long time ago.
Need it really be said that anybody who consents to having 19 kids (or even wants to have that many, regardless of gender) has the machinery downstairs working a hell of a lot better than the 3.5 lbs lump of cheese upstairs which is supposed to be controlling it?
Quote from: NakedTracyBlack on August 22, 2015, 11:19:52 AM
If his wife had any sense, she'd leave him and that horrible family, but if she had any sense she'd have done that a long time ago.
She's not going to leave him. Not in that culture. Her religious beliefs say that her husband's cheating is
her fault, because she didn't make herself available for sex. Granted she lives in a religious culture that dictates that she should also stay perpetually pregnant, but even that's no excuse.