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QuoteU.S. and Turkish media reported Thursday that President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has agreed to let U.S. fighter planes use Incirlik Air Base in Turkey to launch attacks on Islamic State militants inside Syria, although Washington declined to publicly discuss details of new cooperation between the two countries.
The reports, by Turkey's Hurriyet daily and The Wall Street Journal and The New York Times in the U.S., said the agreement was finalized during a phone call Wednesday between Erdogan and U.S. President Barack Obama.
White House spokesman Josh Earnest said he was not able to answer a direct question about Incirlik because of "operational security concerns."
But the White House said in a statement that the two leaders vowed to deepen the two countries' fight against Islamic State militants, to heighten efforts "to bring security and stability to Iraq and a political settlement to the conflict in Syria."
The White House statement did not mention use of Incirlik, but said Obama and Erdogan "discussed efforts to increase cooperation to stem the flow of foreign fighters [to the Islamic State] and secure Turkey's border with Syria."
The U.S. military has long operated at the Incirlik base but Turkey had precluded its use for attacks against Islamic State.
The air base is about 400 kilometers from Raqqa, the Islamic State stronghold in Syria, and would sharply cut the length of the 1,900-kilometer bombing runs the U.S. has been carrying out from Iraq into Syria.
Hurriyet said general agreement on Incirlik's use for the new attacks was reached in early July. The U.S.-led coalition has launched thousands of bombing runs on Islamic State positions in Syria and Iraq and says it has had some success in halting the militants' advance. But the Islamic State still controls wide swaths of northern and western Iraq and northern Syria just across the border from Turkey.
On Thursday, Islamic State fighters in Syria and the Turkish military engaged in a cross-border skirmish that left at least one Turkish officer dead.
Thirty-two people, mostly young activists preparing for an aid mission to Syria, were killed Monday in a devastating suicide bombing in Suruc, Turkey. The Turkish government for the first time blamed the Islamic State for the assault.
It's already permitted. Just posting it.
Apparently Uncle Sam slapped someone's ass. Can't find any other source. Anything from there? Everything is fucked up here.
Turkey detains over 250 suspected militants: officialQuoteISTANBUL: Turkey on Friday detained 251 people in coordinated nationwide dawn raids against suspected Islamic State (IS) jihadists and Kurdish militants following a wave of deadly violence in the country, the prime minister's office said.
“A total of 251 people were taken into detention for belonging to terrorist groups,†the statement said, adding that the raids took place in 13 provinces across Turkey.
It said that the arrests had been made following violent attacks against members of the public and the armed forces in recent days. Reports said police raided addresses in several Istanbul districts in search of members of IS, the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) and other militant groups.
The Dogan news agency said that 140 addresses were raided in 26 districts in Istanbul alone, in a giant operation involving some 5,000 police.
As well as IS and the PKK, the operation targeted suspected members of the PKK's youth wing the The Patriotic Revolutionary Youth Movement (YDG-H) and the Marxist Revolutionary People's Liberation Party Front (DHKP-C), the state Anatolia agency said.
The raids came after 32 people were killed in a suicide bombing Monday in a Turkish town on the Syrian border, blamed on IS.
Read: Bomb attack leaves 30 dead, 100 injured in Turkey
This sparked an upsurge in violence in Turkey's Kurdish-dominated southeast, where many accuse the Turkish authorities of collaborating with IS, accusations Ankara denies.
Two police were shot dead in southeast Turkey close to the Syrian border on Wednesday, in an attack claimed by the PKK's military wing which said it wanted to avenge the Suruc bombing. On Thursday, another policeman was killed in the majority Kurdish city of Diyarbakir.
Meanwhile, YDG-H claimed it had shot dead an alleged former IS fighter in Istanbul late Tuesday.
QuoteThis sparked an upsurge in violence in Turkey's Kurdish-dominated southeast, where many accuse the Turkish authorities of collaborating with IS, accusations Ankara denies.
I'm not familiar with politics of the region but I cant imagine they would make this kind of deal with the US if they were not under considerable duress.
Aren't you from Turkey? I hope you aren't in any danger. Be safe.
Quote from: Cocoa Beware on July 25, 2015, 12:29:53 AM
I'm not familiar with politics of the region but I cant imagine they would make this kind of deal with the US if they were not under considerable duress.
Aren't you from Turkey? I hope you aren't in any danger. Be safe.
Thanks, Cocoa. I live in the Western Anatolia. Nothing around here yet. I'm trying to compartmentalise, but not feeling good.
Things are very bad. Just after the permit Turkish jets bombed Syria soil, ISIS region and in Northern Irak supposed PKK zones in 36 hours. It's still going on as we speak. It seems like they are not going to stop, considering US gave green light too. We are in war. :sad2:
There were also very wide range of raids going around the whole country, esp. in 16 cities. 251 people detained in suspicion of being ISIS militants. And some more. it goes on.
They can deny all they want, nobody is stupid. Gov didn't do anything about ISIS because they are fighting with PKK. In Kurdish wing while there is a huge amount of people supporting peace, also some groups of Turks supporting them, there is the fragment that doesn't want to lay down arms. It's veryharmful, because for the first time we managed to put them in the parliment, but gov hasn't been set yet and that is also a very bad situation.
However, nobody with a little sense also trusts blindly that every single attack reported in media is coming for PKK. My ass. Having said that they claimed the last attack killing a few police officers.
It's going to get bad. Things going to get really bad.
Please be safe shoe, I can't lose the closest mom figure I have
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on July 25, 2015, 08:35:21 AM
Please be safe shoe, I can't lose the closest mom figure I have
I'm OK, GYMIR. *Hugs. Don't worry about me. Mwah.
Well, Shoe, you are a smart young lady. So. use those smarts to stay safe!
Quote from: drunkenshoe on July 25, 2015, 03:45:33 AM
Things are very bad. Just after the permit Turkish jets bombed Syria soil, ISIS region and in Northern Irak supposed PKK zones in 36 hours.
Gov didn't do anything about ISIS because they are fighting with PKK.
Turkey should be kicked out of Nato for attacking the Kurds.
When the USA drops bombs in Iraq everyone says the USA is bad, when Turkey bombs Kurds in Iraq nobody says anything.
gatestoneinstitute.org/6101/turkey-syria-Kurdish-state (http://gatestoneinstitute.org/6101/turkey-syria-Kurdish-state)
Quote from: baronvonrort on July 25, 2015, 08:57:20 PM
Turkey should be kicked out of Nato for attacking the Kurds.
When the USA drops bombs in Iraq everyone says the USA is bad, when Turkey bombs Kurds in Iraq nobody says anything.
gatestoneinstitute.org/6101/turkey-syria-Kurdish-state (http://gatestoneinstitute.org/6101/turkey-syria-Kurdish-state)
You wait here, I'll alert the media.
Quite a few attacks on the Kurds in Iraq by Turkey going back a few years.
www.google.com.au/?gws_rd=ssl#q=turkey+bombs+kurds (http://www.google.com.au/?gws_rd=ssl#q=turkey+bombs+kurds)
One by one, from USA to Iran...there comes support for turkish attacks. Sigh. Doesn't look good from any angle to me.
It seems like the operation stopped for now. Around 600 people detained and hundreds arrested in domestic raids for supporting ISIS.
Also, I just learned that there was a molotf attack to a bus very close to my home (few blocks) in the city -Iam not there right now- 15 people were arrested. Nobody injured.
baronvonrort, what's your point?
What is the stupidity level needed to think that any military operation held by Turkey anywhere against anyone around the Middle East is independent from the USA international politics and its allies that you are comparing them as if they are two different things? That's astonishing even for you.
Turkey is bombing Syria and Northern Irak, because they are alllowed to. They are given green light by dear Uncle Sam in full support. Besides, you should feel close to the religious turkish government, you two think very alike. You are not just in the same team. Excatly like you, they only support humanity when it is playing to their hands. Like all governments.
Do you even have the slightest idea what is going on right now?
PKK needs to lay down arms and go on 'fighting' in the political arena, now when the Kurdish party won votes for the parliement. They are just hurting Kurds development by killing Turks in the country right now. Nobody gives a fuck what is happening to Kurdish people in the international arena. They are just one of the pawns. Something to push and pull in 'between'. The US needs stable gov here and they figure without taking out PKK's militarist wing, it is impossible. Herding. Benefit and profit.
Human rights, rights of a national culture...etc. pretty much 'irrelevant' as your ramblings and your pretence of advocating them.
The Turkish OTTOMAN EMPIRE helping the American CRUSADERS fight Syria( home of DAMASCUS and BERUT) with the help of Isreal(JERUSALEM) because they want REVENGE.
Makes perfect fucking Histrical sense.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on July 26, 2015, 05:41:24 AM
Turkey is bombing Syria and Northern Irak, because they are alllowed to. They are given green light by dear Uncle Sam in full support.
PKK needs to lay down arms and go on 'fighting' in the political arena, now when the Kurdish party won votes for the parliement. They are just hurting Kurds development by killing Turks in the country right now. Nobody gives a fuck what is happening to Kurdish people in the international arena.
Can you cite where the USA gave Turkey permission to attack the Kurds or did you pluck that from your ass?
The PKK did lay down their arms it was Turkey who started this recent hostility towards the Kurds in Syria and Iraq.
If Turkey has a problem with Turkish kurds how does bombing Kurds in Iraq or Syria help this peace process?
Nice article-
www.juancole.com/2015/07/turkeys-mainly-targeting.html (http://www.juancole.com/2015/07/turkeys-mainly-targeting.html)
Quote from: baronvonrort on July 26, 2015, 10:06:12 PM
Can you cite where the USA gave Turkey permission to attack the Kurds or did you pluck that from your ass?
The PKK did lay down their arms it was Turkey who started this recent hostility towards the Kurds in Syria and Iraq.
If Turkey has a problem with Turkish kurds how does bombing Kurds in Iraq or Syria help this peace process?
Nice article-
www.juancole.com/2015/07/turkeys-mainly-targeting.html (http://www.juancole.com/2015/07/turkeys-mainly-targeting.html)
Do you know the deliberate dumb fuck and the accidental one? It's really hard to tell which one you are. It's a waste of time. You don't know the first thing.