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Title: Stephen Jay Gould was wrong and why science and religion are incompatible.
Post by: Sal1981 on June 20, 2015, 08:49:27 AM
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/05/150531-religion-science-faith-healing-atheism-people-ngbooktalk/

This is a fine article, a book interview with Jerry Coyne, an evolutionary geneticist, who smacks down on not only Gould (the non-overlapping magisteria debacle of science and religion), but also why religion is not only wrong, but harmful as well. Oh, and there's a vid with Neil deGrasse Tyson as well.
Title: Re: Stephen Jay Gould was wrong and why science and religion are incompatible.
Post by: Solitary on June 20, 2015, 09:55:57 AM
I've respected Gould for his intelligence, but he is so obviously wrong on this one. On a side note: It mentions the Quakers.  It is not well known that atheist are accepted by them, in fact, even have atheist sects. My sister was an atheist and Quaker.
Title: Re: Stephen Jay Gould was wrong and why science and religion are incompatible.
Post by: Mike Cl on June 20, 2015, 10:34:39 AM
Quote from: Solitary on June 20, 2015, 09:55:57 AM
I've respected Gould for his intelligence, but he is so obviously wrong on this one. On a side note: It mentions the Quakers.  It is not well known that atheist are accepted by them, in fact, even have atheist sects. My sister was an atheist and Quaker.
I had no idea!  Thanks for the info, Sol.
Title: Re: Stephen Jay Gould was wrong and why science and religion are incompatible.
Post by: Solitary on June 20, 2015, 10:51:18 AM
Your welcome, when my brain actually works I'm a fountain of knowledge. :pidu:
Title: Re: Stephen Jay Gould was wrong and why science and religion are incompatible.
Post by: TomFoolery on June 20, 2015, 11:42:13 AM
Quote from: Solitary on June 20, 2015, 09:55:57 AM
I've respected Gould for his intelligence, but he is so obviously wrong on this one. On a side note: It mentions the Quakers.  It is not well known that atheist are accepted by them, in fact, even have atheist sects. My sister was an atheist and Quaker.

Back in the day when I was still questioning my religious beliefs, a friend sent me a link to the Belief-O-Matic. http://www.beliefnet.com/Entertainment/Quizzes/BeliefOMatic.aspx

My top-matched result was Quaker, and I was all like... Da fuq?
Title: Re: Stephen Jay Gould was wrong and why science and religion are incompatible.
Post by: Mike Cl on June 20, 2015, 12:10:55 PM
Quote from: TomFoolery on June 20, 2015, 11:42:13 AM
Back in the day when I was still questioning my religious beliefs, a friend sent me a link to the Belief-O-Matic. http://www.beliefnet.com/Entertainment/Quizzes/BeliefOMatic.aspx

My top-matched result was Quaker, and I was all like... Da fuq?
Took it again.  I don't remember what I had scored before since it was awhile ago.  But now, Unitarian Universalist--atheist--Liberal Quaker.  Everything else 60/70 points away.  My lowest was Hindu, Roman Catholic and Seventh-Day Adventists. 
Title: Re: Stephen Jay Gould was wrong and why science and religion are incompatible.
Post by: Savior2006 on June 20, 2015, 02:19:47 PM
I got Secular Humanism. Highest runner ups were UU, Atheism, and Liberal Quakers.

Zeroes included Islam, 7th Day Adventists, Jehovah Witnesses, Catholic, Orthodox Judiasm, Eastern Orthodox, and basically anything else with religious dogma that I don't care about.

I find myself becoming a little on the fence on abortion, as opposed to the totally pro-choice view. But yeah, what the hell ever.