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Title: Christian couple threaten to divorce in protest against same-sex marriage
Post by: Munch on June 10, 2015, 05:57:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcinzmfZeCc

Ooooh you crazy Christians..

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/06/10/christian-couple-threaten-to-divorce-in-protest-over-same-sex-marriage/

QuoteAustralian Nick Jensen says that if same-sex marriage is introduced, he and his wife will divorce.
Writing in the Canberra CityNews, Mr Jensen says he will continue to live with his wife, Sarah, and their children â€" and they will still consider themselves married. But they will no longer be legally married.
He wrote: “Marriage is the union of a man and a woman before a community in the sight of God. And marriage of any couple is important to God regardless of whether that couple recognises God’s involvement or authority in it.
“If our federal parliament votes to change the timeless and organic definition of marriage later on this year, it will have moved against the fundamental and foundational building block of Australian society and, indeed, human culture everywhere.
“Indeed, it raises a red flag when a government decides it is not content only having sovereignty over land, taxes and the military â€" but ‘words’ themselves.
“This is why we are willing to divorce. By changing the definition of marriage, ‘marriage’ will, in years to come, have an altogether different sense and purpose.”
Mr Jensen works for the American Christian Lobby, who campaign against same-sex marriage.
Canberra CityNews has faced a backlash from Facebook fans for publishing Mr Jensen’s article â€" with many saying the magazine should be “ashamed” to give such few views a platform.
One reader said: “What a stupid article, you may as well have written about how two crazy people still believe the world is flat. Geez. Homophobic propaganda.”
Editor Ian Meikle told news.com.au: “The article does not reflect the opinion of the paper. It’s an unusual love story, and what would life be if people didn’t have different ways of life.”
In the ongoing debate on same-sex marriage in Australia, the first National MP said yesterday he would vote in favour.


Does my heart good knowing the effect gay marriage has on people.
Title: Re: Christian couple threaten to divorce in protest against same-sex marriage
Post by: Sal1981 on June 10, 2015, 06:00:15 AM
Well, at least the politicians aren't affected by this ridiculous, whatever, sort of tactic this is supposed to incur.
Title: Re: Christian couple threaten to divorce in protest against same-sex marriage
Post by: Mr.Obvious on June 10, 2015, 06:25:11 AM
My response to the couple: So...?
That is literally the most retarded threat I've ever seen. At least if you were to threaten that if, say evolution was taught in class you'd start homeschooling your children; there is an actual threat. Because you threaten to deny a child the right to a decent education; a child that's not old enough to decide what's best for him/her would be put at a disadvantage.
But these are two adults making a decission that only afflicts these two adults. And I'm not even going to sink to making a joke about them clearly being to infantile to decide for themselves. Two adults that would choose to end their marriage, and only that. How is that a threat? What are you threatening? That you'll exercise your right to make your own decissions and throw away any protections as well as any disadvantages associated with marriage as an institution? This isn't a threat?! It's retarded. It's like saying; if congress doesn't accept pizza as a vegetable, we'll stop having pizza-Friday as a couple. Big fucking whoop.

Btw, lashing out against the magazine seems silly to me. This article, though probably true, is just a joke and should be treated with amused and bewildered ridicule. I'm glad they voiced this couple.
Title: Re: Christian couple threaten to divorce in protest against same-sex marriage
Post by: hrdlr110 on June 10, 2015, 06:50:06 AM
Emfuckingbarassing to be ozzie! (I'm not,  but live here) Sounds like something right out of middle America!
Title: Re: Christian couple threaten to divorce in protest against same-sex marriage
Post by: drunkenshoe on June 10, 2015, 06:56:47 AM
I hope this catches on, because that means they won't BREED purposefully!  If we think most of the baby booming falls on the religious groups, it could do amazing things for the world!

We should get out and hoot for these couple, pat them in the back and make it spread with fake "If you are against gay marriage, you should divorce! God wants you to divoce" signs.

:rotflmao:

Fucking bigots. No end to their bullshit.
Title: Re: Christian couple threaten to divorce in protest against same-sex marriage
Post by: hrdlr110 on June 10, 2015, 06:59:37 AM
Emfuckingbarassing to be ozzie! (I'm not,  but live here) Sounds like something right out of middle America!  Of course they won't be taken seriously so really it's more laughable i suppose.
Title: Re: Christian couple threaten to divorce in protest against same-sex marriage
Post by: Atheon on June 10, 2015, 07:07:40 AM
"If gays marry, it'll bugger up bloke-sheila marriage, and by crikey I'm going to make it happen, mate! Fair dinkum!"
Title: Re: Christian couple threaten to divorce in protest against same-sex marriage
Post by: SGOS on June 10, 2015, 08:37:20 AM
Getting divorced over gay marriage?  It seems like there could be more dramatic sacrifices that call attention to their plight.  Sure, you lose the economic and legal benefits of marriage, but you will probably end up in lower tax brackets.  I know heterosexuals in the states that don't get married because they pay less taxes being single. 

Yeah, the concept of marriage being between a man and a woman is a fine tradition, I suppose.  But 200 years ago owning slaves was also a fine tradition.  Tradition is not necessarily a good defense for traditions.
Title: Re: Christian couple threaten to divorce in protest against same-sex marriage
Post by: hrdlr110 on June 10, 2015, 08:46:35 AM
Quote from: Atheon on June 10, 2015, 07:07:40 AM
"If gays marry, it'll bugger up bloke-sheila marriage, and by crikey I'm going to make it happen, mate! Fair dinkum!"

Totally had it right until you put the "by" in front of the "crikey".
Title: Re: Christian couple threaten to divorce in protest against same-sex marriage
Post by: hrdlr110 on June 10, 2015, 08:53:06 AM
Quote from: hrdlr110 on June 10, 2015, 08:46:35 AM
Totally had it right until you put the "by" in front of the "crikey".

Yeah,  good point!  I can picture it now, the two of them sitting in the living room after. ...He: "so it's final,  we're divorced?" She: "Yep" he: "ok,  now what?" *Cue the crickets
Title: Re: Christian couple threaten to divorce in protest against same-sex marriage
Post by: hrdlr110 on June 10, 2015, 08:54:41 AM
Meant to quote sgos with my last post,  can y'all sort that out for yourselves? ??
Title: Re: Christian couple threaten to divorce in protest against same-sex marriage
Post by: stromboli on June 10, 2015, 11:34:35 AM
Now if we can get every Christian couple everywhere do this and stop having kids.......
Title: Re: Christian couple threaten to divorce in protest against same-sex marriage
Post by: Brian37 on June 10, 2015, 12:08:01 PM
That will show those gays! SO THERE!
Title: Re: Christian couple threaten to divorce in protest against same-sex marriage
Post by: GSOgymrat on June 10, 2015, 12:30:20 PM
This is what annoys me about the internet, particularly social media. Some nobody on the other side of the world says something stupid, someone writes about said stupidity, it trends and then millions of people, like myself, waste their time reading about it because the more stupid, the more outrageous, the more attention it receives. There should just be a daily disclaimer "and in further news, someone, somewhere said something stupid."
Title: Re: Christian couple threaten to divorce in protest against same-sex marriage
Post by: Munch on June 10, 2015, 02:42:35 PM
Quote from: GSOgymrat on June 10, 2015, 12:30:20 PM
This is what annoys me about the internet, particularly social media. Some nobody on the other side of the world says something stupid, someone writes about said stupidity, it trends and then millions of people, like myself, waste their time reading about it because the more stupid, the more outrageous, the more attention it receives. There should just be a daily disclaimer "and in further news, someone, somewhere said something stupid."

I'd more take perspective of these things, and think of it as, well, no matter if I'm having days where I don't feel like the sharpest tool in the toolbox, there are people like this in the world that makes my doubts seem irrelevant.
Title: Re: Christian couple threaten to divorce in protest against same-sex marriage
Post by: Johan on June 10, 2015, 07:57:47 PM
He says he'll get divorced because "marriage of any couple is important to God..." But he also says he'll continue to live with is wife. What does god say about living in sin?
Title: Re: Christian couple threaten to divorce in protest against same-sex marriage
Post by: aitm on June 13, 2015, 04:21:08 PM
Quote from: Johan on June 10, 2015, 07:57:47 PM
He says he'll get divorced because "marriage of any couple is important to God..." But he also says he'll continue to live with is wife. What does god say about living in sin?
Stop picking on believers Jo….goddamn man you are mean and evil and….other stuff too.
Title: Re: Christian couple threaten to divorce in protest against same-sex marriage
Post by: Solitary on June 13, 2015, 05:25:09 PM
How in the hell does anyone know what God wants? Do they have infinite wisdom like He does? Not only that, but how in the hell does that change anything? Talk about stupid!  :wall:
Title: Re: Christian couple threaten to divorce in protest against same-sex marriage
Post by: Munch on June 13, 2015, 06:05:32 PM
Quote from: Solitary on June 13, 2015, 05:25:09 PM
How in the hell does anyone know what God wants? Do they have infinite wisdom like He does? Not only that, but how in the hell does that change anything? Talk about stupid!  :wall:

See, the bible is actually similar to pennys book from inspector gadget.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LhoWBrvEIFE/VP6hA4E_1-I/AAAAAAAACLE/tqDpeuXrKCo/s1600/penny%2B3.jpg)
It has a direct wireless link up to gods moon base.
Title: Re: Christian couple threaten to divorce in protest against same-sex marriage
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on June 13, 2015, 08:43:53 PM
The important thing to remember here is that in the US at least some dimwitted pol will read this and propse a 'special kind of" marriage with extra superduper tax breaks for heterosexual marriages performed by a recognized pastor and vote to exclude all other marriages because "religious freedom" blah fucking blahbity blah blah blah. .
Title: Re: Christian couple threaten to divorce in protest against same-sex marriage
Post by: kilodelta on June 13, 2015, 11:17:23 PM
Holy fucking shit... they have their fingers on a button that will launch World War 4... those fucking geniuses. I'm sorry for the gay folks that wish to get married in the land down under. The silver bullet. Damn.
Title: Re: Christian couple threaten to divorce in protest against same-sex marriage
Post by: the_antithesis on June 13, 2015, 11:51:15 PM
Let 'em.
Title: Re: Christian couple threaten to divorce in protest against same-sex marriage
Post by: Atheon on June 14, 2015, 12:01:17 AM
Quote from: kilodelta on June 13, 2015, 11:17:23 PM
Holy fucking shit... they have their fingers on a button that will launch World War 4... those fucking geniuses.
That'd be quite a feat, skipping right over World War 3 and going straight to World War 4! But if Microsoft can do it with Windows...
Title: Re: Christian couple threaten to divorce in protest against same-sex marriage
Post by: Sargon The Grape on June 14, 2015, 01:01:54 AM
Quote from: kilodelta on June 13, 2015, 11:17:23 PM
Holy fucking shit... they have their fingers on a button that will launch World War 4... those fucking geniuses. I'm sorry for the gay folks that wish to get married in the land down under. The silver bullet. Damn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dZIutRz9hw
Title: Re: Christian couple threaten to divorce in protest against same-sex marriage
Post by: Mermaid on June 14, 2015, 08:03:45 AM
ON NO! How would I be able to survive if some bigoted ignorant couple get a DIVORCE!?

Title: Re: Christian couple threaten to divorce in protest against same-sex marriage
Post by: SGOS on June 14, 2015, 08:41:50 AM
Quote from: Mermaid on June 14, 2015, 08:03:45 AM
ON NO! How would I be able to survive if some bigoted ignorant couple get a DIVORCE!?

That's precious.  Talk about cutting off their noses to spite their face.  As a form of protest, it's just dumb.

:rotflmao:
Title: Re: Christian couple threaten to divorce in protest against same-sex marriage
Post by: Mike Cl on June 14, 2015, 09:07:53 AM
Quote from: SGOS on June 14, 2015, 08:41:50 AM
That's precious.  Talk about cutting off their noses to spite their face.  As a form of protest, it's just dumb.

:rotflmao:
But so very Christian.
Title: Re: Christian couple threaten to divorce in protest against same-sex marriage
Post by: Aletheia on June 14, 2015, 11:19:17 AM
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http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/06/10/christian-couple-threaten-to-divorce-in-protest-over-same-sex-marriage/

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    Australian Nick Jensen says that if same-sex marriage is introduced, he and his wife will divorce.

I wonder how this effects gays or changes the minds of other heterosexual couples? 50% of marriages end in divorce anyway, so seeing another divorce really has no shock value.

Furthermore, doesn't this desecrate the "sanctity of marriage" when this can be thrown away over something so trivial?

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    Writing in the Canberra CityNews, Mr Jensen says he will continue to live with his wife, Sarah, and their children â€" and they will still consider themselves married. But they will no longer be legally married.

As most Christians understand it, marriage is supposed to prevent people from living in sin. Cohabitation without marriage is considered a sin. So, how does committing one sin in protest of another sin resolve the issue in God's eyes?

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    He wrote: “Marriage is the union of a man and a woman before a community in the sight of God. And marriage of any couple is important to God regardless of whether that couple recognises God’s involvement or authority in it.

Then, this means that gays aren't married in the sight of God? Well, that seems to solve things:

"Marriage is the union of a man and a woman before a community in the sight of God."
"Gay marriage is the union of gay person and a gay person before the community not in the sight of God."
.
Phew, that was close. So other forms of marriage are possible if they are recognized by the community but not God.

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    “If our federal parliament votes to change the timeless and organic definition of marriage later on this year, it will have moved against the fundamental and foundational building block of Australian society and, indeed, human culture everywhere.

This is nothing new. Shifts like this have been used to break traditions before - such as slavery, second class treatment of women, child labour, etc. There's nothing wrong with moving against fundamental and foundational building blocks of any society, especially when these views turn out to be wrong. Seriously, what foundational building blocks of Australian society are we talking about? I thought Australia started out as the dumping ground of the undesirables from Britain?

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    “Indeed, it raises a red flag when a government decides it is not content only having sovereignty over land, taxes and the military â€" but ‘words’ themselves.

Red flag? Words change regardless of any given government. They change as ideas and views change. It comes as no surprise that as views about the LGBT community change, so too will the words associated with them will change.

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    “This is why we are willing to divorce. By changing the definition of marriage, ‘marriage’ will, in years to come, have an altogether different sense and purpose.”

Glad they were able to figure it out. By divorcing over this, this will have given  marriage a different sense and purpose. Instead of being one involving unity and love, it has now become a political tool intended to hurt others - albeit, ineffectively.

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    Mr Jensen works for the American Christian Lobby, who campaign against same-sex marriage.
    Canberra CityNews has faced a backlash from Facebook fans for publishing Mr Jensen’s article â€" with many saying the magazine should be “ashamed” to give such few views a platform.
    One reader said: “What a stupid article, you may as well have written about how two crazy people still believe the world is flat. Geez. Homophobic propaganda.”

No surprise. Same-sex marriage has zero effect on heterosexual marriages. Wishing to disrupt the happiness of others for little to no reason is sadistic. So, yeah, feeling "ashamed" would be appropriate.

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    Editor Ian Meikle told news.com.au: “The article does not reflect the opinion of the paper. It’s an unusual love story, and what would life be if people didn’t have different ways of life.”
    In the ongoing debate on same-sex marriage in Australia, the first National MP said yesterday he would vote in favour.

The article does reflect badly on the paper regardless of its true opinion. It's not a love story of any kind and does not show what life would be like if people didn't have different ways of life. This is a politically motivated stunt by individuals who are unhappy about the manner in which other people live their life - even though said people do not affect them in any way.

The paper has supported what amounts to hate speech.
Title: Re: Christian couple threaten to divorce in protest against same-sex marriage
Post by: Mike Cl on June 14, 2015, 11:30:47 AM
Quote from: Aletheia on June 14, 2015, 11:19:17 AM

The paper has supported what amounts to hate speech.
Yeah, I agree with you.  This is not a love story--it's a hate story.  And it amounts to a temper tantrum of a small child who throws himself down on the floor and holds his breath until he passes out.  So, let the little shits hold there breath and pass out.