At least that is from my point of view. At its extreme it becomes the mind of the sociopath. At its least it makes us stupid and limits understanding we might gain from others and from within ourselves. Mike has very aptly pointed out for me that he observes me as talking down to people. I can understand that but what I am really doing is seeking to become more detached within myself such that I might gain greater understanding and interract in more thoughtful ways. And I am not referring to being polite though I could clearly improve in that area as well. Arrogance clearly ties into religious views an atheist views as well. What do you think about arrogance?
You are pretty arrogant, now that you bring up the subject.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on May 07, 2015, 03:05:25 PM
You are pretty arrogant, now that you bring up the subject.
I know that I am and yet I struggle to rid myself of it. It is easy within myself for it to go unnoticed. This was aptly pointed out to me by the Hindu person who humbly stated in regard to the stupid joke that I had posted by simply stating "Such jokes should not be made."
Quote from: Givemeareason on May 07, 2015, 02:27:26 PM
Arrogance clearly ties into religious views an atheist views as well.
And how would the lack of a belief in deities, which is the only atheist view there is, be arrogant?
Quote from: Givemeareason on May 07, 2015, 02:27:26 PM
At least that is from my point of view. At its extreme it becomes the mind of the sociopath. At its least it makes us stupid and limits understanding we might gain from others and from within ourselves. Mike has very aptly pointed out for me that he observes me as talking down to people. I can understand that but what I am really doing is seeking to become more detached within myself such that I might gain greater understanding and interract in more thoughtful ways.
Just be yourself. You'll find it's much easier
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on May 07, 2015, 06:15:20 PM
And how would the lack of a belief in deities, which is the only atheist view there is, be arrogant?
Simple. It doesn't. Saying that you don't know or acknowledging that we don't have enough information to know is not arrogant. It's actually humble and realistic.
Yeah well I guess I'm arrogant then because I'm going a step farther and saying I do know there is no god.
Quote from: Givemeareason on May 07, 2015, 02:27:26 PM
Mike has very aptly pointed out for me that he observes me as talking down to people. I can understand that but what I am really doing is seeking to become more detached within myself such that I might gain greater understanding and interract in more thoughtful ways.
That's the biggest line of bullshit I've heard in the last year.
Wow, you people are sounding as arrogant as I am. What a surprise. Maybe we need someone with some humility to step in and show us what it is?
Quote from: Givemeareason on May 07, 2015, 07:59:48 PM
Wow, you people are sounding as arrogant as I am. What a surprise. Maybe we need someone with some humility to step in and show us what it is?
The Clouds part
With a perfectly azure sky as the background, Termin resplendent in a custom made tux, perfectly polished shoes, and a walking stick with a perfect diamond on top floats from above, descending slowly , or perhaps it only seems slow as the anticipation of his arrival is palatable, the sun seemingly shines only upon him, making his green eyes sparkle like emeralds.
As he descend gracefully like a feather he steps upon the earth, birds create then sing songs only for him, wildlife from all around state in awe at this wonder. Flowers change colours simply in an attempt to get his attention.
He clears his throat, the birds immediately stop singing, not daring to interrupt him.
Did someone have a question about humility ?
Quote from: SGOS on May 07, 2015, 07:22:58 PM
That's the biggest line of bullshit I've heard in the last year.
Actually I am a mad psychologist and all of you have been unwitting participants in my grand thought experiment. And you have wildly exceeded all my expectations. I am writing this up in my journal and turning it in for colleague review.
Quote from: Termin on May 07, 2015, 08:47:50 PM
The Clouds part
With a perfectly azure sky as the background, Termin resplendent in a custom made tux, perfectly polished shoes, and a walking stick with a perfect diamond on top floats from above, descending slowly , or perhaps it only seems slow as the anticipation of his arrival is palatable, the sun seemingly shines only upon him, making his green eyes sparkle like emeralds.
As he descend gracefully like a feather he steps upon the earth, birds create then sing songs only for him, wildlife from all around state in awe at this wonder. Flowers change colours simply in an attempt to get his attention.
He clears his throat, the birds immediately stop singing, not daring to interrupt him.
Did someone have a question about humility ?
LOL Well, I'm impressed!
Quote from: Givemeareason on May 07, 2015, 08:58:42 PM
Actually I am a mad psychologist and all of you have been unwitting participants in my grand thought experiment. And you have wildly exceeded all my expectations. I am writing this up in my journal and turning it in for colleague review.
(http://i.imgur.com/tm9InS0.jpg)
Oh my, someone's rather salty at being called out. :lol:
If you're looking for humility I'd suggest skipping the line of shit from AA and their 12 steps nonsense as it's entirely unreliable and pie in the sky.. It's a sales pitch..
Maybe you should stop starting threads for awhile. Just sit back and enjoy the forum, make comments when you have something to say, and get to know everyone. Try not to "force" yourself on people.
Quote from: Desdinova on May 08, 2015, 10:07:41 AM
Maybe you should stop starting threads for awhile. Just sit back and enjoy the forum, make comments when you have something to say, and get to know everyone. Try not to "force" yourself on people.
Or as some old acquaintances of mine once put it, "Speak when you have something to say, not when you have to say something."
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on May 07, 2015, 09:11:27 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/tm9InS0.jpg)
Oh my, someone's rather salty at being called out. :lol:
Bullshit response gets a bullshit reply. Nothing personal. At least his response was worthy of a reply.
Quote from: Givemeareason on May 08, 2015, 03:12:19 PM
Bullshit response gets a bullshit reply. Nothing personal. At least his response was worthy of a reply.
Because we all know how many situations have been resolved through escalation. The forum has an "ignore" function for a reason. I use it whenever I don't feel like dignifying someone's position with a response.
If you derive enjoyment from responding, then by all means do so. Otherwise, just walk away.
Quote from: Desdinova on May 08, 2015, 10:07:41 AM
Maybe you should stop starting threads for awhile. Just sit back and enjoy the forum, make comments when you have something to say, and get to know everyone. Try not to "force" yourself on people.
Thanks but don't worry about me. I have the skin of a rhinoceros and the manners as well. :-)
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on May 08, 2015, 03:16:12 PM
Because we all know how many situations have been resolved through escalation. The forum has an "ignore" function for a reason. I use it whenever I don't feel like dignifying someone's position with a response.
If you derive enjoyment from responding, then by all means do so. Otherwise, just walk away.
I really don't intend to escalate anything nor would I allow it to happen. I am not the sort that angers much. And I am really not as bad as some might see me. I really love this place and the people here. If I receive a well considered response I will try to respond as well I can. And if anyone thought I needed to respond I would truly appreciate hearing that. Other than that this is becoming a stimulating and enlightening encounter for me.
Givemeareason, the real question is:
How often do you crap and fart?
Quote from: PickelledEggs on May 08, 2015, 07:31:02 PM
Givemeareason, the real question is:
How often do you crap and fart?
Why don't you tell me?
Quote from: PickelledEggs on May 08, 2015, 07:31:02 PM
Givemeareason, the real question is:
How often do you crap and fart?
I would not even have responded to that except you are staff. Are you starting a poll or something?
lol
Quote from: Givemeareason on May 08, 2015, 09:31:44 PM
I would not even have responded to that except you are staff. Are you starting a poll or something?
There is a thread about the topic , believe it or not. I will report you to the moderators. You never answer this important question. That's very rude.
Quote from: leo on May 08, 2015, 11:06:46 PM
There is a thread about the topic , believe it or not. I will report you to the moderators. You never answer this important question. That's very rude.
You win :-(
Quote from: Givemeareason on May 08, 2015, 09:31:44 PM
I would not even have responded to that except you are staff. Are you starting a poll or something?
It's a running joke around here. (http://atheistforums.com/index.php?topic=2583.0)
Quote from: Givemeareason on May 07, 2015, 02:27:26 PM
At least that is from my point of view. At its extreme it becomes the mind of the sociopath. At its least it makes us stupid and limits understanding we might gain from others and from within ourselves. Mike has very aptly pointed out for me that he observes me as talking down to people. I can understand that but what I am really doing is seeking to become more detached within myself such that I might gain greater understanding and interract in more thoughtful ways. And I am not referring to being polite though I could clearly improve in that area as well. Arrogance clearly ties into religious views an atheist views as well. What do you think about arrogance?
Arrogance affects everyone. It can serve to give one a sense of superiority, and it can also be used as a way of rationalizing or dismissing circumstances or realities that we don't like. I don't think any person or group has a corner on this market. I see it everywhere, including in myself.
Arrogance is a by product of survival gone awry..Folks become to self important once they reach a certain level and begin believing their own bullshit.. It takes a lot of bullshit to survive.