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Title: the republicans are at it again. :[
Post by: doorknob on April 18, 2015, 08:40:37 PM
So I was playing minecraft with my sister and the door bell rings. It was this old bat republican going door to door handing out pamphlets. She's like tell your mother we need more voters. I was like yeah sure I'll tell her. I was surprised she didn't ask me to vote but I think she was getting the prickling feelings from my glaring.

I'm not fond of republicans in my state or in any state for that matter. I wish the democrats would campaign a little harder instead.
Title: Re: the republicans are at it again. :[
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on April 18, 2015, 09:52:48 PM
They're endemic here in SC. Our entire neighborhood is infested with republican motherfuckers.. I'm just hoping that they get the WH and totally destroy the economy because then and ONLY then will the average voter wake the fuck up to realize just how fucked up the gop is.  As Billy boy himself said,  "It's the economy stupid."
Title: Re: the republicans are at it again. :[
Post by: GSOgymrat on April 18, 2015, 10:34:18 PM
I got this on my Facebook feed today, so I obliged the poster.

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Title: Re: the republicans are at it again. :[
Post by: aitm on April 18, 2015, 10:43:50 PM
well I don't like Hillary myself. I hope they come up with something a little less polarizing…maybe a rabid dog or something.
Title: Re: the republicans are at it again. :[
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on April 18, 2015, 11:06:11 PM
I'm not to wild about Hillary either,  but I definitely will vote for her before any of the gop asshats.
Title: Re: the republicans are at it again. :[
Post by: Solitary on April 18, 2015, 11:28:36 PM
I'm not voting! No matter who gets in nothing is going to change because money talks, money is power, and it is easy to bribe people to get what you want. We don't have a country of the people, for the people, and by the people. It has always been throughout history that the rich govern, and tax the poor working man. Only a despot that loves people could create a society that is just.  As far as I know this has never happened with despots because of greed and the lust for power and the need to control the people. The Catholic Church has it down pat, and the Mormon church, and Scientology are giving it a run for its money. They don't have to pay taxes---remember? Look how the rich and powerful put their money in non profit organizations like Scientology claimed to be and convinced the IRS after they were a church when they had a billion dollar tax bill and went after the IRS  with their lawyers. They never had to pay that tax after "CON"vincing the IRS they were a church. Solitary
Title: Re: the republicans are at it again. :[
Post by: GSOgymrat on April 19, 2015, 12:23:11 AM
I also got this on Facebook today:

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I have little interest in politics but the fact the election is over 500 days away and already the circus is starting just annoys me. I also don't respond well to "vote for ______ or you are not my friend."
Title: Re: the republicans are at it again. :[
Post by: Draconic Aiur on April 19, 2015, 02:51:59 AM
HEIL MOUNTAIN DEW!
Title: Re: the republicans are at it again. :[
Post by: Atheon on April 19, 2015, 03:20:46 PM
If you don't vote, you're also part of the problem. Vote.
Title: Re: the republicans are at it again. :[
Post by: Aroura33 on April 19, 2015, 03:35:08 PM
I read somewhere that the most just government is NOT democracy (which has too many ways to become corrupt, as we see with our own), but a benign monarchy.  The problem with that is even if you get a single good ruler, the next one probably will be a selfish asshat.

I don't see a good solution to our government problems.  Northern Europe seems to be doing it the closest to the best there is, but we all know 'merica won't copy those liberl, socialist commies!
Title: Re: the republicans are at it again. :[
Post by: Hydra009 on April 19, 2015, 03:46:07 PM
Quote from: Aroura33 on April 19, 2015, 03:35:08 PMI don't see a good solution to our government problems.  Northern Europe seems to be doing it the closest to the best there is, but we all know 'merica won't copy those liberl, socialist commies!
I've never understood that mentality.  Shouldn't you copy someone who's doing things better than you?

I mean, look at Japan during the Meiji period.  They copied the hell out of European technology.  Became a world power in short order.
Title: Re: the republicans are at it again. :[
Post by: SGOS on April 19, 2015, 04:08:40 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on April 19, 2015, 03:46:07 PM
I've never understood that mentality.  Shouldn't you copy someone who's doing things better than you?

If you listen to my right wing cousin, he's absolutely positive that no one does anything as well as the US.  It's not like he has evidence.  It's not like he's thought about it.  Hell, it's not even like he's trying to be patriotic.  It's simply incomprehensible to him that it could be any other way.  I think there are a lot of people with this mindset.  I also remember being taught by my teachers, how lucky we were to be born in America.  Well, it is lucky if the only alternative were to be born in Somalia, but the implication was that we were born into the most wonderful country ever conceived by man.
Title: Re: the republicans are at it again. :[
Post by: Aroura33 on April 19, 2015, 04:18:38 PM
Quote from: SGOS on April 19, 2015, 04:08:40 PM
If you listen to my right wing cousin, he's absolutely positive that no one does anything as well as the US.  It's not like he has evidence.  It's not like he's thought about it.  Hell, it's not even like he's trying to be patriotic.  It's simply incomprehensible to him that it could be any other way.  I think there are a lot of people with this mindset.  I also remember being taught by my teachers, how lucky we were to be born in America.  Well, it is lucky if the only alternative were to be born in Somalia, but the implication was that we were born into the most wonderful country ever conceived by man.
To be fair, I think there was a time when this was at least partially true, though I think there have been empires before ours that were equally good to be born into, even if you are born poor.  At least America doesn't have a hard glass ceiling on economic and/or social mobility (though we clearly have a barrier that's harder than hell to cross, it can be done). 

I think a lot of the conceitedness we see in Americans today stems directly from the WW2 and post WW2 era.  We viewed ourselves as the hero's of the world, even though black people still had to drink from different fountains in most places here. 
Title: Re: the republicans are at it again. :[
Post by: SGOS on April 19, 2015, 07:05:38 PM
Quote from: Aroura33 on April 19, 2015, 04:18:38 PM

I think a lot of the conceitedness we see in Americans today stems directly from the WW2 and post WW2 era.  We viewed ourselves as the hero's of the world, even though black people still had to drink from different fountains in most places here. 

Yeah, before WWII we were  just nobodies, kind of up and coming nobodies, that got our 15 minutes of fame, and we've been defining ourselves on those 15 minutes ever since.  And no matter how bad we fuck up, we still think we are great.  Well, some of us do.  You can find those types in bars, Vets Clubs, and rodeos, well just about any place, but a rodeo is my favorite place to look.
Title: Re: the republicans are at it again. :[
Post by: Green Bottle on April 19, 2015, 09:50:58 PM
Quote from: SGOS on April 19, 2015, 07:05:38 PM
Yeah, before WWII we were  just nobodies, kind of up and coming nobodies, that got our 15 minutes of fame, and we've been defining ourselves on those 15 minutes ever since.  And no matter how bad we fuck up, we still think we are great. 
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Title: Re: the republicans are at it again. :[
Post by: stromboli on April 19, 2015, 10:29:21 PM
Quote from: SGOS on April 19, 2015, 07:05:38 PM
Yeah, before WWII we were  just nobodies, kind of up and coming nobodies, that got our 15 minutes of fame, and we've been defining ourselves on those 15 minutes ever since.  And no matter how bad we fuck up, we still think we are great.  Well, some of us do.  You can find those types in bars, Vets Clubs, and rodeos, well just about any place, but a rodeo is my favorite place to look.

You left out state and county fairs.
Title: Re: the republicans are at it again. :[
Post by: Solitary on April 20, 2015, 12:13:30 AM
Quote from: Atheon on April 19, 2015, 03:20:46 PM
If you don't vote, you're also part of the problem. Vote.
BULL SHIT! There was a mythical town where everyone voted accept one guy. The vote ended in a tie. Everyone finally told him to vote, so he did. He believed the lies of both politicians and gave one the benefit of the doubt. He voted for him. He was a despot and had everyone that didn't vote for him hunted down and killed. Hitler since history has been reported since his time received the highest percentage of votes in every election done. Since our government has upped the anti, even with our present president, of surveillance and record keeping of all of us, and have drones watching everything and killing with the government enemies, how long before the super rich make a point of protecting their self interests with modern technology? I am not THE problem, it is greed that can buy off politicians and support wars with their weapons---even in the ghettoes. Even our police forces have been militarized and shoot anyone with impunity. Go vote forever you want, and see how things change? Solitary
Title: Re: the republicans are at it again. :[
Post by: Hydra009 on April 20, 2015, 01:21:18 AM
Quote from: Solitary on April 20, 2015, 12:13:30 AMBULL SHIT! There was a mythical town where everyone voted accept one guy. The vote ended in a tie. Everyone finally told him to vote, so he did. He believed the lies of both politicians and gave one the benefit of the doubt. He voted for him. He was a despot and had everyone that didn't vote for him hunted down and killed.
Sucks to live in that mythical town.  Doesn't have jack to do with the price of tea in China, though.

Also, *except.

QuoteHitler since history has been reported since his time received the highest percentage of votes in every election done.
Bro, do you even google? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party#Federal_election_results)  Ssrly, bro. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_presidential_election,_1932#Results)

Also, ad hitlerum.  Strangest one I've seen yet.

QuoteSince our government has upped the anti, even with our present president, of surveillance and record keeping of all of us, and have drones watching everything and killing with the government enemies, how long before the super rich make a point of protecting their self interests with modern technology? I am not THE problem, it is greed that can buy off politicians and support wars with their weapons---even in the ghettoes. Even our police forces have been militarized and shoot anyone with impunity. Go vote forever you want, and see how things change?
New drinking game:  count the exaggerations and malaprops!

I ish winnar!  Hic!
Title: Re: the republicans are at it again. :[
Post by: Savior2006 on April 22, 2015, 09:37:37 AM
Quote from: doorknob on April 18, 2015, 08:40:37 PM
So I was playing minecraft with my sister and the door bell rings. It was this old bat republican going door to door handing out pamphlets. She's like tell your mother we need more voters. I was like yeah sure I'll tell her. I was surprised she didn't ask me to vote but I think she was getting the prickling feelings from my glaring.

I'm not fond of republicans in my state or in any state for that matter. I wish the democrats would campaign a little harder instead.

OK, I'm not seeing what the issue is? Are they not supposed to campaign like everyone else? We just gotta do it harder than them is all.
Title: Re: the republicans are at it again. :[
Post by: doorknob on April 22, 2015, 11:26:01 AM
that is the problem we do have to campaign harder. But also I'm surrounded by republicans who aren't likely to change their vote.