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Title: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: Mermaid on April 04, 2015, 01:13:04 PM
This seems to be every myth, lie and misconception about atheists on one neat web page.
http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_Morality

Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: stromboli on April 04, 2015, 01:22:26 PM
"Moral depravity as a causal factor for atheism......"  :eek:

Wow, what a find. There is enough misinformation in one place to write a dozen sermons on. I could actually feel my brain shrinking while reading that.
Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: Mermaid on April 04, 2015, 01:31:18 PM
I learned a few things. Atheists don't have an adequate explanation for what love is.

WHO KNEW!?
Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: kilodelta on April 04, 2015, 01:54:59 PM
Quote from: Mermaid on April 04, 2015, 01:31:18 PM
I learned a few things. Atheists don't have an adequate explanation for what love is.

WHO KNEW!?

But, we can better define hate than Christians...
Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: SGOS on April 04, 2015, 02:02:22 PM
Conservapedia sounds like a combination of "conservative" and "Wikipedia."  Is it like Wikipedia for right wingers?  Is it affiliated with the real Wikipedia?

Edit:  More importantly, is its purpose to dispense information,    or propaganda?
Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: Mermaid on April 04, 2015, 02:06:03 PM
Quote from: SGOS on April 04, 2015, 02:02:22 PM
Conservapedia sounds like a combination of "conservative" and "Wikipedia."  Is it like Wikipedia for right wingers?  Is it affiliated with the real Wikipedia?

Edit:  More importantly, is its purpose to dispense information,    or propaganda?
Yes and I seriously doubt it.
Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: SGOS on April 04, 2015, 02:09:24 PM
Holy Crap, I guess this answers my question.  It's just a right wing site that uses Wikipedia's name.  Scan the following for a "fair and unbalanced" Fox News type explanation of evolution:

http://www.conservapedia.com/Evolution
Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: Mermaid on April 04, 2015, 02:26:09 PM
Ahahahahahahahahahhahahahah
Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: trdsf on April 04, 2015, 03:28:40 PM
Conservapedia is to truth and reliability as North Korea is to freedom and democracy.  Remember, these were the guys behind the Conservative re-edit of the Bible (http://www.salon.com/2009/10/08/conservative_bible_2/)...
Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: SGOS on April 04, 2015, 03:51:04 PM
Quote from: trdsf on April 04, 2015, 03:28:40 PM
Remember, these were the guys behind the Conservative re-edit of the Bible (http://www.salon.com/2009/10/08/conservative_bible_2/)...
OK, that explains a lot.
Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: Aletheia on April 04, 2015, 04:31:14 PM
Was I the only one who had an Orwellian experience while reading that?
Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: Sargon The Grape on April 04, 2015, 05:19:54 PM
How can you doubt that this article is true? It says right up in the corner that Conservapedia is the trustworthy encyclopedia! :lol:
Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: MagetheEntertainer on April 04, 2015, 05:37:55 PM
Quote from: Mermaid on April 04, 2015, 01:13:04 PM
This seems to be every myth, lie and misconception about atheists on one neat web page.
http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_Morality

Wait a minute, I though all Atheist had a basement full of dead hookers!  Or is that just me?
Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: Mermaid on April 04, 2015, 05:44:25 PM
Quote from: MagetheEntertainer on April 04, 2015, 05:37:55 PM
Wait a minute, I though all Atheist had a basement full of dead hookers!  Or is that just me?
What the hell? Did you not get the memo?
Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: SGOS on April 04, 2015, 06:49:30 PM
Here's what Wikipedia says about Conservapedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservapedia

Here's what Conservapedia says about Wikipedia:
http://www.conservapedia.com/Wikipedia

Each is critical of the other.
Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: trdsf on April 04, 2015, 07:17:24 PM
Quote from: SGOS on April 04, 2015, 06:49:30 PM
Here's what Wikipedia says about Conservapedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservapedia

Here's what Conservapedia says about Wikipedia:
http://www.conservapedia.com/Wikipedia

Each is critical of the other.

Perhaps, but I know which one I'd rather go to for references and links.
Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: SGOS on April 04, 2015, 07:35:35 PM
Quote from: trdsf on April 04, 2015, 07:17:24 PM
Perhaps, but I know which one I'd rather go to for references and links.

It's just more of the conservative perception that all media, science, and history is biased and must be rewritten.  I'd heard of Conservapedia before, but never used it.  It sounds so much like the real thing thatI never wondered about it until I read the OP.
Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: Mermaid on April 04, 2015, 07:52:34 PM
That is hilarious.
Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: Jason78 on April 05, 2015, 05:50:13 AM
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on April 04, 2015, 05:19:54 PM
How can you doubt that this article is true? It says right up in the corner that Conservapedia is the trustworthy encyclopedia! :lol:

Well they wouldn't allow them to publish it on the internet if it wasn't true.
Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: Atheon on April 05, 2015, 07:30:48 AM
Hahaha! Conservapedia! Hahaha!
Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: Johan on April 05, 2015, 11:14:42 AM
Quote from: SGOS on April 04, 2015, 06:49:30 PM

Here's what Conservapedia says about Wikipedia:
http://www.conservapedia.com/Wikipedia

I love what they say about the ability to edit wiki pages.

QuoteMost of Wikipedia's articles can be edited publically by both registered and anonymous editors[2], mostly consisting of teenagers and the unemployed.[3]
Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: Mermaid on April 05, 2015, 11:25:14 AM
Oh I SO want to edit some conservapedia pages.
Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: SGOS on April 05, 2015, 11:41:56 AM
Quote from: Johan on April 05, 2015, 11:14:42 AM
I love what they say about the ability to edit wiki pages.
The whole concept of allowing the public to alter information in an encyclopedia is strange indeed.  I'm often surprised that Wikipedia hasn't been destroyed by every wanker with a computer and an opinion.
Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: Johan on April 05, 2015, 05:57:35 PM
The public can edit, but the public and, page subjects or subject owners I believe, can also have inaccurate changes removed. I clicked on the wiki page for U2 once because I was trying to remember so old tidbit about them. It just so happened that a short while earlier someone had edited their main bio and inserted a story about how they had a fifth member named Stan or some such whom they'd met at a bar and hit it off so well they asked him to join the band even though his only talent was playing the jaw harp or something like that.

I checked back a few times to see how long it would last. I think it stayed up for a day or so before it was taken down.

So yeah, anyone can write anything they like about anything. But just like kids on a playground, the group tends to police itself most of the time.
Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: SGOS on April 05, 2015, 09:23:57 PM
Yeah, I watched an ongoing battle like that that went for at least a couple of weeks over the definitions of agnostic and atheist.  It may have gone on longer, but I got tired of watching it.
Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on April 05, 2015, 10:08:13 PM
Right wing nutjobs co-opt yet another notion of wisdom? Say it ain't so Joe! :eek:
Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: trdsf on April 05, 2015, 11:12:30 PM
Quote from: SGOS on April 05, 2015, 11:41:56 AM
The whole concept of allowing the public to alter information in an encyclopedia is strange indeed.  I'm often surprised that Wikipedia hasn't been destroyed by every wanker with a computer and an opinion.
They're reasonably good about self-policing.  The thing about Wikipedia is not necessarily the articles themselves, but it's a fantastic clearinghouse for links, so instead of taking the Wiki's word for it, you can check out the source material for yourself.

I mainly patrol for obvious vandalism, and grammatical/typographical errors.  I don't feel expert enough in anything to do any more than write clarifying material.  I only can think of one substantive edit I made, in a section on estimating the Drake Equation.  It was just after some new research that provided a better estimate on the number of stars with planets, which is one of the terms.

I don't like writing articles because I don't like being edited.  I choose my words very carefully and in most circumstances consider editing to weaken my undeniably epic prose.  :)
Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: SGOS on April 06, 2015, 06:07:11 AM
Quote from: trdsf on April 05, 2015, 11:12:30 PM
I mainly patrol for obvious vandalism, and grammatical/typographical errors.  I don't feel expert enough in anything to do any more than write clarifying material.  I only can think of one substantive edit I made, in a section on estimating the Drake Equation.  It was just after some new research that provided a better estimate on the number of stars with planets, which is one of the terms.


So are you part of a Wikipedia staff or something?  To patrol Wikipedia seems like a labor intensive undertaking.
Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: trdsf on April 07, 2015, 05:32:53 AM
Quote from: SGOS on April 06, 2015, 06:07:11 AM
So are you part of a Wikipedia staff or something?  To patrol Wikipedia seems like a labor intensive undertaking.
Oh, jeez, no.  Just when I'm bored and feel like being pedantic for a while.  Usually I'll spot a typo while on a wikicrawl and fix it, and that puts me in the mood for doing a little editing and I'll see if I can stumble across anything else.

I'm the sort of person who can be dropped completely out of a book by a typo; I have to set it aside and pick it up again later.  I edited an APA for four years--the damn things hit my eye like a boxing glove and I go immediately from "reading for pleasure" mode to "reading as an editor".

Once in a while, they can be really hilarious -- one OCR system rendered the name of American Revolutionary Ethan Allen as "Ethan Alien"... which suggested a whole different kind of 'green mountain boys (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Mountain_Boys)'!
Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: Mr.Obvious on April 07, 2015, 06:48:26 AM
Conservapedia is the single best example I can think of when I argue that it's hard to distinguish between actual religious and right-wing views and satire thereof.
When I first came across it. I laughed my ass of because I figured it had to be satire of conservatives. It reeked of paranoia and close-mindedness. It took feeble attempts to deny evidence and other points of view to an extreme. Naturally I thought it was a joke on how desperate and self-delusional the '(christian) conservative right wing' view was this day and age.
When I figured out it actually wasn't a joke, it just became sad.
Title: Re: Atheism and Morality from Conservapedia
Post by: Solomon Zorn on April 07, 2015, 07:59:33 AM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on April 07, 2015, 06:48:26 AM
Conservapedia is the single best example I can think of when I argue that it's hard to distinguish between actual religious and right-wing views and satire thereof...When I figured out it actually wasn't a joke, it just became sad.
It's not a joke. It's fucking Orwellian, the way they spin EVERYTHING to fit their world view - even history. And if it's not Conservapedia, it's conservative talk-radio, or television, or preachers, with their trusting audiences, spreading misinformation. It's growing fast, like an aggressive cancer on the minds of the multitude. As someone once said, "Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but they are not entitled to their own facts."