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Title: IS 'bulldozed' ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud,
Post by: pr126 on March 06, 2015, 01:22:50 AM
 IS 'bulldozed' ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud, Iraq says  (http://news.yahoo.com/bulldozed-ancient-assyrian-city-nimrud-iraq-govt-203312292.html;_ylt=AwrBT7nxvvhUwc4Au7RXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzNTc5dHM4BGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDVklQNTc2XzEEc2VjA3Nj)

QuoteBaghdad (AFP) - The Islamic State group have begun bulldozing the ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud in Iraq, the government said, in the jihadists' latest attack on the country's historical heritage.

IS "assaulted the historic city of Nimrud and bulldozed it with heavy vehicles," the tourism and antiquities ministry said on an official Facebook page.

An Iraqi antiquities official confirmed the news, saying the destruction began after noon prayers on Thursday and that trucks that may have been used to haul away artefacts had also been spotted at the site.

"Until now, we do not know to what extent it was destroyed," the official said on condition of anonymity.

Nimrud, one of the jewels of the Assyrian era, was founded in the 13th century BC and lies on the Tigris River around 30 kilometres (18 miles) southeast of Mosul, Iraq's second city and the IS group's main hub in the country.

"I'm sorry to say everybody was expecting this. Their plan is to destroy Iraqi heritage, one site at a time," said Abdulamir Hamdani, an Iraqi archaeologist from Stony Brook University.

"Hatra of course will be next," he said, referring to a beautifully-preserved city in Nineveh province that is more than 2,000 years old and is a UNESCO world heritage site.

Nevermind. I am reassured by the fact that there are over a billion peaceful Muslims.
Why worry?
Title: Re: IS 'bulldozed' ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud,
Post by: Valigarmander on March 06, 2015, 03:50:23 AM
What a loss to human heritage. Apparently they're not happy with simply demolishing libraries and artifacts, now they have to wipe entire cities off the map.
Title: Re: IS 'bulldozed' ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud,
Post by: Draconic Aiur on March 06, 2015, 05:22:27 AM
Can we bomb them now?
Title: Re: IS 'bulldozed' ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud,
Post by: pr126 on March 06, 2015, 05:24:45 AM
 New ISIS Video Shows Militants Smashing Ancient Iraq Artifacts  (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/26/new-isis-video_n_6759626.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592)

QuoteBAGHDAD (AP) â€" The Islamic State group released a video on Thursday showing militants using sledgehammers to smash ancient artifacts in Iraq's northern city of Mosul, describing the relics as idols that must be removed.

The destructions are part of a campaign by the IS extremists who have destroyed a number of shrines â€" including Muslim holy sites â€" in order to eliminate what they view as heresy. They are also believed to have sold ancient artifacts on the black market in order to finance their bloody campaign across the region.

The five-minute video shows a group of bearded men inside the Mosul Museum using hammers and drills to destroy several large statues, which are then shown chipped and in pieces. The video then shows a black-clad man at a nearby archaeological site inside Mosul, drilling through and destroying a winged-bull Assyrian protective deity that dates back to the 7th century B.C.

IS extremists? Militants?  Hell no. True believers, disciples of Muhammad. Following Islam to the letter.

The holy Quran tells us: " Kill, loot, rape, enslave, destroy" until nothing left but a pile of rubble and mutilated corpses.
Wonderful.

Maybe there is something seriously wrong with this noble belief system after all.


Title: Re: IS 'bulldozed' ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud,
Post by: pr126 on March 06, 2015, 05:45:09 AM
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on March 06, 2015, 05:22:27 AM
Can we bomb them now?

What the hell? Certainly not.

We must not be judgmental. Remember, all religions, all cultures are the same.
Let them have fun. 




Title: Re: IS 'bulldozed' ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud,
Post by: Sal1981 on March 06, 2015, 05:55:18 AM
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on March 06, 2015, 05:22:27 AM
Can we bomb them now?
Bomb them? How about troops on the ground and wipe them out.
Title: Re: IS 'bulldozed' ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud,
Post by: Munch on March 06, 2015, 05:58:05 AM
They're destroying their own heritage, seems funny given there approach has the same barbaric reasoning as I imagine it would have been from when those artefacts were made.
Title: Re: IS 'bulldozed' ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud,
Post by: pr126 on March 06, 2015, 06:06:29 AM
Quote from: Sal1981 on March 06, 2015, 05:55:18 AM
Bomb them? How about troops on the ground and wipe them out.

The best hardware is useless if the will to win is not there.

“We can not win this war by killing them,” Marie Harf said on MSNBC.  (http://sultanknish.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/we-can-kill-our-way-to-victory.html)

QuoteReversing thousands of years of battlefield experience in which wars were won by “killing them”, the State Department spokeswoman argued that you can’t defeat ISIS by killing its fighters.

"We can not kill our way out of this war,” she said. “We need in the medium and longer term to go after the root causes that lead people to join these groups, whether it is lack of opportunity for jobs."

The root causes is Islam, stupid woman! But you are not allowed to say that.
Title: Re: IS 'bulldozed' ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud,
Post by: pr126 on March 06, 2015, 06:13:12 AM
Quote from: Munch on March 06, 2015, 05:58:05 AM
They're destroying their own heritage, seems funny given there approach has the same barbaric reasoning as I imagine it would have been from when those artefacts were made.
Read up about the  Jahiliyyah  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahiliyyah).
Title: Re: IS 'bulldozed' ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud,
Post by: Brian37 on March 06, 2015, 07:15:19 AM
What a bunch of dicks. If these assholes got into Egypt they would blow up the pyramids.
Title: Re: IS 'bulldozed' ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud,
Post by: pr126 on March 06, 2015, 07:20:21 AM
Quote from: Brian37 on March 06, 2015, 07:15:19 AM
What a bunch of dicks. If these assholes got into Egypt they would blow up the pyramids.
"The Sphinx and Pyramids Must be Destroyed"  (http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3449/destroy-sphinx-pyramids)

QuoteEgypt's Muslim fundamentalists are now calling for the destruction of the Pyramids and the Great Sphinx of Giza under the pretext that Islam prohibits idols.

If the extremists have no respect for human life, why should they care about a pyramid or a statue?

Murjan Salem al-Johari, one of Egyptian leaders of the Saudi-inspired Wahhabis, otherwise referred to as the "Salafis," said that it was the duty of all Muslims to destroy the Pyramids and the Great Sphinx just as the Taliban destroyed two ancient statues of the Buddha in Afghanistan in 2001.

"All statues in Egypt must be destroyed," al-Johrai declared in a TV interview. "Muslims must implement the rules of Sharia and we will destroy the statues of Sphinx and the Pyramids because they are idols."[/url]
Title: Re: IS 'bulldozed' ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud,
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 06, 2015, 08:32:07 AM
Islam is a mental illness.
Title: Re: IS 'bulldozed' ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud,
Post by: SGOS on March 06, 2015, 08:46:11 AM
It is the will of Allah.
Title: Re: IS 'bulldozed' ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud,
Post by: PickelledEggs on March 06, 2015, 09:21:14 AM
Quote from: Munch on March 06, 2015, 05:58:05 AM
They're destroying their own heritage, seems funny given there approach has the same barbaric reasoning as I imagine it would have been from when those artefacts were made.
My heritiage too... my mom's entire side of the family is Assyrian.

It really sucks that these pricks are doing this and wiping out a culture from history. I really don't know what to say... I'm really upset about this.
Title: Re: IS 'bulldozed' ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud,
Post by: Shiranu on March 06, 2015, 09:40:12 AM
Quote from: Munch on March 06, 2015, 05:58:05 AM
They're destroying their own heritage, seems funny given there approach has the same barbaric reasoning as I imagine it would have been from when those artefacts were made.

It's not their heritage, at least not in their eyes. Their heritage goes back to Saudi Arabia.
Title: Re: IS 'bulldozed' ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud,
Post by: kilodelta on March 06, 2015, 10:01:53 AM
Fuck those assholes.
Title: Re: IS 'bulldozed' ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud,
Post by: SGOS on March 06, 2015, 11:50:37 AM
The history of mankind is a heritage of all things mankind.  It doesn't matter whether you are from China, Great Britain, or Mexico. It's part of all of us, and helps us understand our beginnings and our divergence.  Christians in Texas are busy at this time trying to rewrite American history.  ISIS seems content to wipe it out.

It is incredibly ignorant behavior:  "We don't like this or that part of our past, so we will get rid of the history."  It's nutty behavior, although it is done with serious intention by petulant children with big guns.  It's religious vandalism.  We must learn to tolerate these assholes, because being assholes is part of their religious belief.
Title: Re: IS 'bulldozed' ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud,
Post by: Solitary on March 06, 2015, 12:02:53 PM
When you have God on your side you can do no wrong stupid atheists!  And yet they call us fools. When in the hell is mankind going to realize religion is the main problem for everyone we have---think about it! It all comes from people believing they have knowledge when all they have is ignorance passed down by bigoted, hateful, men that didn't have any knowledge either. Solitary
Title: Re: IS 'bulldozed' ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud,
Post by: Munch on March 06, 2015, 07:07:49 PM
Quote from: PickelledEggs on March 06, 2015, 09:21:14 AM
My heritiage too... my mom's entire side of the family is Assyrian.

It really sucks that these pricks are doing this and wiping out a culture from history. I really don't know what to say... I'm really upset about this.

sorry to hear that :S, knowing your heritage is one thing, but seeing what is part of that being destroyed by a group of fucking savages today, thats awful.

This is why I think history needs to be preserved in tightly secured facilities, for study.
Title: Re: IS 'bulldozed' ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud,
Post by: pr126 on March 08, 2015, 12:42:10 AM
  Islamic State militants raze Iraq's ancient Hatra city: Government  (http://www.torontosun.com/2015/03/07/islamic-state-militants-raze-iraqs-ancient-hatra-city-government)

QuoteIslamic State militants have destroyed ancient remains of the 2,000-year-old city of Hatra in northern Iraq, officials said on Saturday, in their latest attack on Iraqi antiquities which the United Nations condemned as barbarism.

The antiquities and tourism ministry said it had received reports from the northern city of Mosul, which is under the control of the radical Islamist group, that the site at Hatra was demolished on Saturday.

A ministry official said it was difficult to confirm the reports and the ministry had not received any pictures showing the extent of the damage at Hatra, listed as a U.N. world heritage site.

But a resident told Reuters he heard a powerful explosion at Hatra early on Saturday and said that other people nearby had reported that Islamic State militants had destroyed some buildings there and were bulldozing other parts.

Hatra lies about 110 km south of Mosul, the largest city under Islamic State control. A week ago the militants released a video showing them smashing statues and carvings in the city's museum, home to priceless Assyrian and Hellenistic artefacts dating back 3,000 years.

Title: Re: IS 'bulldozed' ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud,
Post by: pr126 on March 09, 2015, 12:57:57 PM
 Qatari fatwa: Destroy Egypt’s pyramids, Sphinx! (http://english.alarabiya.net/en/variety/2015/03/03/Qatari-fatwa-Destroy-Egypt-s-pyramids-and-Sphinx-.html)

QuoteA fatwa from a Qatari-owned online portal has been widely circulated by Egyptian press this week after it called for the destruction of pharanoic monuments on the grounds that they are contrary to Islam.

The religious edict, issued by Islam Web, was picked up by several independent Egyptian news outlets, such as Youm 7 and al-Fagr. It suggested the destruction of the historic monuments were a “religious duty” that Egyptians must fulfill.

But Egyptian newspapers carrying the story failed to notice the fatwa was first issued in December 2012. It has nevertheless sparked prime-time talk show discussions in Egypt.

The fatwa, which had been issued in response to a user’s question to the Islam Web’s administrator, had stated: “The demolition of the pyramids and the sphinx is a religious duty,” before referring to the monuments as “idols.”

It added: “(The destruction of) monuments is a duty by Sharia (Islamic) law, as many texts have stipulated … Texts on this issue are many and well-known but (implementing) them is restrained to one’s ability… And so, if it’s not possible to destroy the pyramids and the Sphinx as a result of the presence of an authority preventing that, Muslims would not be committing a sin.”