Seems legit...
[youtube:nh8mns9c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8DDIe_2cHM[/youtube:nh8mns9c]
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I think I watched this before. I was trying (and succeeding) at mentally debunking from memory as they came up and it worked for pretty much most of them. This only works in convincing people who already have no fucking clue what science is.
I think you messed up the link. This is actually a video about why Kent Hovind is a dishonest money-grubbing snake-oil salesman.
Tl;dr. Ain't no fucking way I'm wasting more than an hour of my life with that douche.
I can't watch videos, can somebody link me to a site that lists the "reasons" in text form?
I'm listening to his stuff now and wondering what's wrong with this guy.
The only way evolution can be debunked is by completely misunderstanding and misstating what it really is.
I have a friend who is a theist and I showed him this...
[youtube:32x3w1p7]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFXEg-3MBv8[/youtube:32x3w1p7]
I explained to him that this was based on actual skymaps and some actual photos of some galaxies.
He said, "According to who?"
I said, "According to fucking fact!"
He said, "How do you know NASA didn't fake it? I don't trust NASA."
I said, "Faked decades of work from tens of thousands of independent astronomers???"
And I watched as he simply refused to even look at the monitor but instead chose to bury his head in the sand, so to speak. Pissed me off because this video is one of the most beautiful and moving things I have ever seen.
You can't use fact to convince people who have already made the conscious decision to remain ignorant.
BTW Kent Hovind got his "degree" from a "college" that consists of a shack with a guy sitting inside who will issue "degrees" to anyone paying the $25 fee.
Sooooo....
The Sloan Digital Sky Survey is indeed one of the most beautiful and humbling videos on the size of the universe and the insignificance of humanity there is.
Quote from: "Plu"The Sloan Digital Sky Survey is indeed one of the most beautiful and humbling videos on the size of the universe and the insignificance of humanity there is.
Isn't it just amazing!
I've been sharing that video with everybody I possibly can. Really awe inspiring!
Quote from: "Zatoichi"BTW Kent Hovind got his "degree" from a "college" that consists of a shack with a guy sitting inside who will issue "degrees" to anyone paying the $25 fee.
Sooooo....
Indeed:
http://www.noanswersingenesis.org.au/ba ... thesis.htm (http://www.noanswersingenesis.org.au/bartelt_dissertation_on_hovind_thesis.htm)
Quote from: "Zatoichi"The only way evolution can be debunked is by completely misunderstanding and misstating what it really is.
I have a friend who is a theist and I showed him this...
Writer posted a YouTube video (//http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFXEg-3MBv8)
I explained to him that this was based on actual skymaps and some actual photos of some galaxies.
He said, "According to who?"
I said, "According to fucking fact!"
He said, "How do you know NASA didn't fake it? I don't trust NASA."
I said, "Faked decades of work from tens of thousands of independent astronomers???"
And I watched as he simply refused to even look at the monitor but instead chose to bury his head in the sand, so to speak. Pissed me off because this video is one of the most beautiful and moving things I have ever seen.
You can't use fact to convince people who have already made the conscious decision to remain ignorant.
holy smokes .
For those interested, here is a link to a WikiLeaks page from which Kent Hovind's "dissertation" (//https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Young-earth_creationist_Kent_Hovind%27s_doctoral_dissertation) can be downloaded. It is actually a hilariously funny read.
It starts out, "Hello, my name is Kent Hovind. I am a creation/science evangelist." It only gets funnier from there.
I am reading the web page about Hovind's dissertation. Hilarious! Pity he won't allow it to be published on the Internet. Could it be that even he is embarrassed by his own lack of education? :lol:
Quote from: "ApostateLois"I am reading the web page about Hovind's dissertation. Hilarious! Pity he won't allow it to be published on the Internet. Could it be that even he is embarrassed by his own lack of education? :lol:
Pssst. Check out the WikiLeaks link I posted above. His "dissertation" is even worse than you can imagine.
It's fairly obvious what the deal is with guys like Hovind.
Beside their attempts to portray science as biased and not knowing what it's doing, they're trying to redefine the scientific method itself...at least in the minds of the layman. They're trying to redefine what scientific qualifications are and often make it sound like legit scientists are no more qualified than any average, uneducated idiot, like themselves... thus leading to the conclusion that untrained and biased Theists can do just as good a job... yeah riiiiight!
So assholes like Hovind publish their bullshit and claim peer review (meaning their own private club of self-proclaimed, cerial-box-degree-holding pretenders), then claim some conspiracy by mainstream science is trying to hide their "truth." Yet they never come up with one good reason science would do that. They're "playing scientist" and doing a absolutely pathetic job at faking it. So the solution, to them, is to convince the public that the real scientists are the fakers and they are the real deal. Fortunately it's not working. They know damn well they're wrong which is why they tell the same old bullshit over and over again, even though they have been confronted and corrected numerous times with actual fact... they just figure, "Aw heck... this guy knows better so let's move on to someone more accommodating to our "point of view" (read gullible). They think it's OK to lie, cheat or steal as long as it's "in the service of the Lord."
What they're doing is pure revisionism. That old Nazi principal that if you tell a lie enough times, people will begin to accept it.
Quote from: "Zatoichi"It's fairly obvious what the deal is with guys like Hovind.
Beside their attempts to portray science as biased and not knowing what it's doing, they're trying to redefine the scientific method itself...at least in the minds of the layman. They're trying to redefine what scientific qualifications are and often make it sound like legit scientists are no more qualified than any average, uneducated idiot, like themselves... thus leading to the conclusion that untrained and biased Theists can do just as good a job... yeah riiiiight!
So assholes like Hovind publish their bullshit and claim peer review (meaning their own private club of self-proclaimed, cerial-box-degree-holding pretenders), then claim some conspiracy by mainstream science is trying to hide their "truth." Yet they never come up with one good reason science would do that. They're "playing scientist" and doing a absolutely pathetic job at faking it. So the solution, to them, is to convince the public that the real scientists are the fakers and they are the real deal. Fortunately it's not working. They know damn well they're wrong which is why they tell the same old bullshit over and over again, even though they have been confronted and corrected numerous times with actual fact... they just figure, "Aw heck... this guy knows better so let's move on to someone more accommodating to our "point of view" (read gullible). They think it's OK to lie, cheat or steal as long as it's "in the service of the Lord."
What they're doing is pure revisionism. That old Nazi principal that if you tell a lie enough times, people will begin to accept it.
You couldn't be more wrong. Mr Hovind is in it for the money. He used to make a lot of cash by getting people to pay him to speak at churches and religious events. Mr Hovind knows what he's saying is wrong, but telling the truth wont get loads of gullible followers to hand over huge wads of cash for his books and videos.
Quote from: "Jason78"Mr Hovind is in it for the money.
Which is what religion is and always has been - the business of getting fed without having to work.
he is also big on conspiracies, the illuminati and a host of other doom and gloom anti-government stances.............
consider his world view on those subject and he's tackeling a subject that is the cornerstone of biology today?
Sad stuff.........
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