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Title: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: GrinningYMIR on August 11, 2014, 07:12:18 PM
Looks like a suicide, sad. I enjoyed watching his movies

http://news.yahoo.com/actor-robin-williams-found-dead-apparent-suicide-sheriff-230233692.html
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: Green Bottle on August 11, 2014, 07:20:47 PM
Awww sorry tae hear this, gd actor an a really funny guy, my fav movie of his was Good Mornin Vietnam............ R I P.
Title: Robin Williams Dead
Post by: Munch on August 11, 2014, 07:23:30 PM
Well this is a sad turn :(.

http://www.dallasnews.com/entertainment/headlines/20140811-breaking-comedian-actor-robin-williams-dead-at-63-nbc-news-reports.ece

QuoteVeteran film and television comedic actor Robin Williams was found dead on Monday. He was 63.

The cause of death is believed to be suicide via asphyxiation, according to the coroner’s office in Tiburon, Calif. He was found in his home.

According to his publicist, who confirmed the news, the actor had been battling depression of late and recently entered 12-step rehab stint for drug abuse.

His wife Susan Schneider said in a statement, “I am utterly heartbroken. On behalf of Robin’s family, we are asking for privacy during our time of profound grief. As he is remembered, it is our hope the focus will not be on Robin’s death, but on the countless moments of joy and laughter he gave to millions.”

Williams is best known for both comedic and dramatic roles in movies including “Good Will Hunting,” for which he won a Best Supporting Actor in 1997. In addition, he won several Emmys, Golden Globes.

Williams’ film career was bookended by TV roles including his breakout role on the ABC sitcom “Mork & Mindy” in 1978. He returned to TV on CBS last season, “The Crazy Ones.”

Born in Chicago to a former model and an auto-industry executive, Williams graduated from Juilliard School in 1973. His career exploded in the late 1970s on the strength of both his stand-up comedy act and “Mork,” which channeled his antic stream-of-consciousness style into the role of an alien on Earth.

He took his career to the next level with a bevy of lead parts in critically acclaimed movies beginning in the late 1980s, including “Good Morning, Vietnam,” “Dead Poets Society” and “The Fisher King.” All of them garnered Oscar nominations but it wasn’t until his supporting turn in “Hunting,” from a screenplay by Ben Affleck and Matt Damon, that he earned his only win, in 1998.

For all his success as a comedy star, “Hunting” proved Williams had a flair for dramatic roles as well in his role as a nurturing psychotherapist. Williams also scored in another dramatic role as a man of medicine, playing neuroscientist Oliver Sacks in the 1990 movie “Awakenings.”

But Williams will be remembered best for the parts that exhibited his improvisational comedy chops, which he delivered with near manic intensity. His genius for over-the-top characters was displayed in the early 1990s everywhere from the cross-dressing nanny in “Mrs. Doubtfire” to even animated roles, like the genie in “Aladdin.”

He is survived by his wife and three children.

Its a shame, I liked his roles, I use to watch mork and mindy when I was a kid, and loved him as the Genie in aladdin. And of course dead poets society was a great movie.

O captain, my captain!
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: wolf39us on August 11, 2014, 07:26:06 PM
That man was a great comedian... I was waiting for him to tour down here :-(
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: Shiranu on August 11, 2014, 07:29:05 PM
His acting career was hit or miss to me, but some of his hits were really good... and I liked his stand-up a lot. Surprised he lived that long.
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: wolf39us on August 11, 2014, 07:30:52 PM
merged duplicate topic.  Sorry Munch GrinningYMIR beat ya to it!
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: Munch on August 11, 2014, 07:32:43 PM
thanks for the move to here, see you already heard :(

poor guy. when you read up on stuff, it turns out he helped Christopher lee when he no longer could afford the medical bills, keeping him going.

Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: GrinningYMIR on August 11, 2014, 07:35:45 PM
Quote from: Munch on August 11, 2014, 07:32:43 PM
thanks for the move to here, see you already heard :(

poor guy. when you read up on stuff, it turns out he helped Christopher lee when he no longer could afford the medical bills, keeping him going.



He was good friends with Lee, it shows that he did have a good heart in him
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: _Xenu_ on August 11, 2014, 07:43:42 PM
He always seemed like a happy guy to me. I didn't see this one coming.
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: Munch on August 11, 2014, 07:44:53 PM
He also suffered from deep depression, despite being a comedian.

He was one of those actors that could either hit the mark well, or miss it entirely. Things like his comedy were fun, and certain roles he played in like good will hunter, dead poets, one hour photo and aladdin were great, where as things like flubber, patch adams and jack not so much.
I do admit, I always had a soft spot for his role in mrs Doubtfire.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Buy1dJ_CMAAh4Vs.jpg)
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: Sargon The Grape on August 11, 2014, 08:04:12 PM
Damn it, another one of my childhood heroes is dead.

RIP
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: PickelledEggs on August 11, 2014, 08:07:50 PM
Robin Williams was probably one of my biggest heroes growing up. I was never tough or anything, but I was really inspired by his amazing quick wit and tried my best to emulate that. Very sad.

Sent from your mom

Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: aitm on August 11, 2014, 08:21:40 PM
I thought I felt a tad of his depression with the role he was playing. Although it was or may have been a simple coincidence he played the depressed in the new show with a heavy eye that I thought delved into the mind. I was never a great fan of his though I certainly did not dislike him.  I was surprised but not so much. I think I would have been more surprised if he died of old age. Shame non-the-less.
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: Munch on August 11, 2014, 08:54:19 PM
Well, at least he left much behind. I felt really bad when hearing about heath ledgers death a few years ago, after not just the impact he and Jake gyllenhaal made for gay characters in mainstream cinema, but also for his amazingly unique portrayal of the joker.
That was said, now where as robin williams has had a long career, and really peaked in the 80s and 90s, in his later life his film career wasn't as strong, but he still left us with great memories.

One of the greatest things we can hope for in life, is to leave our mark in some way, and Robin certainly left his.
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: Moralnihilist on August 11, 2014, 08:56:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Erf2iFHG44M
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: stromboli on August 11, 2014, 09:17:02 PM
Shame. I've had my own battles with depression, so I can understand. He will be greatly missed.
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: SGOS on August 11, 2014, 09:35:00 PM
Too bad.  He was gifted and much too young.
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: GrinningYMIR on August 11, 2014, 10:29:43 PM
You know, I'm genuinely saddened by this, he's one of the guys I've grown up with, and I've enjoyed nearly every movie I've seen him in. He had his troubles, as we all do, but I think he made a lot of difference in his life. RIP Mr. Williams.

"Genie, you're free"
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: kilodelta on August 11, 2014, 10:43:39 PM
It's not your fault.
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: Solitary on August 11, 2014, 10:59:41 PM
Mrs. Doubtfire was a masterpiece of acting. When he was good he was really good, as an actor and comedian. He always had that twinkle in his eye, but also a disturbing sadness about him. It's like we lost a friend.  :sad: Solitary
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: stromboli on August 11, 2014, 11:08:58 PM
It didn't help that he was a long time friend and staunch supporter of Lance Armstrong, and admitted he felt stabbed in the back when Armstrong finally copped to it.  Had to be crushing.
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: Sargon The Grape on August 12, 2014, 12:58:17 AM
I don't think a celebrity death has hit me this hard since another childhood hero of mine, Steve Irwin, died.

The world will just not be the same without Robin Williams. He is a great man gone before his time.
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: stromboli on August 12, 2014, 01:10:29 AM
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on August 12, 2014, 12:58:17 AM
I don't think a celebrity death has hit me this hard since another childhood hero of mine, Steve Irwin, died.

The world will just not be the same without Robin Williams. He is a great man gone before his time.

Yeah, Steve Irwin's death still seems so glaringly wrong. No question Williams' death will feel the same.
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: Sargon The Grape on August 12, 2014, 01:50:02 AM
Alright, well, I believe in celebrating someone's life more than mourning their death, so I'd better get started paying the man proper tribute. For starters, I'd like to imagine his last words went something like this:

[spoiler]Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodbye Vietnam![/spoiler]
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: Youssuf Ramadan on August 12, 2014, 05:32:01 AM
Fuck, I thought they said Robbie Williams.....

Anyway... I had no idea Robin suffered from depression, but depression does seem to take its toll on the comic genre.....

Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: SGOS on August 12, 2014, 07:52:42 AM
In an interview during his "Mork and Mindy days,"  Williams stated that one of his most important idols was the comedian Jonathan Winters, and it's easy to see the Winters influence in Robin Williams.  Both were very funny and masters at improv.  Give either one a script to follow, and then get out of the way.  They probably weren't going to follow it anyway.  Also, Winters had a history of being in and out of mental institutions, although I don't know if it had anything  to do with depression.  Winters occasionally referred to his experiences in "the Funny Farm".  If he didn't actually coin that term, he helped make it popular.  Before I even saw that interview, Robin Williams reminded me of Jonathan Winters.

While Williams was almost always funny, a certain pathos often came through in his personality, like he was struggling with some demon inside him.
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: StupidWiz on August 12, 2014, 08:00:18 AM
RIP. :'(
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: Mister Agenda on August 12, 2014, 02:50:55 PM
Yeah, it is the sad. I thought he had a good decade left in him as a performer. I didn't watch The Crazy Ones, but I assumed it was good, because it had Robin Williams in it.
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: Shiranu on August 12, 2014, 03:12:13 PM
Quote from: Mister Agenda on August 12, 2014, 02:50:55 PM
Yeah, it is the sad. I thought he had a good decade left in him as a performer. I didn't watch The Crazy Ones, but I assumed it was good, because it had Robin Williams in it.

It was pretty "meh". It wasn't terrible like some television series, but it was no-where near good.
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: Sargon The Grape on August 12, 2014, 04:10:54 PM
The only one of his films I can genuinely say I hate is "Patch Adams," but it's not because of Robin Williams himself. Besides being just plain stupid, it made a mockery of the real Patch Adams; and in the words of the man himself, "The film promised to build our hospital. None of the profits from the film ever came to us, and so, basically 40 years into this work, we are still trying to build our hospital."

Seriously, just go watch the Nostalgia Critic review of that movie. They explain it a lot better than I can here.
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: Munch on August 12, 2014, 04:39:00 PM
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on August 12, 2014, 04:10:54 PM
The only one of his films I can genuinely say I hate is "Patch Adams," but it's not because of Robin Williams himself. Besides being just plain stupid, it made a mockery of the real Patch Adams; and in the words of the man himself, "The film promised to build our hospital. None of the profits from the film ever came to us, and so, basically 40 years into this work, we are still trying to build our hospital."

Seriously, just go watch the Nostalgia Critic review of that movie. They explain it a lot better than I can here.

I was going to say the same, the director of patch adams didn't take into account the real story of it, and just had robin williams do what he does best in the role. Patch Adams said he hated the movie because it didn't portray the real him. I don't blame Williams for that though.
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: Berati on August 12, 2014, 07:52:15 PM
I was off grid camping for a few days. Just heard about this. Sad to see that it appears that he just could not defeat the booze and depression.
I thought his acting was hit and miss, but when it was a hit it was really good. Favorite two movies are The Fisher King, the World according to Garp.
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: aitm on August 12, 2014, 10:04:40 PM
I am not the best person when it comes to celebrity deaths or illnesses or even life problems.  I do not give them such a place in my life that grants them such status. I am not trying to be an ass, but I do not put people who make a living out of faking their emotions special status. I don't dislike the guy, but I don't have him on any type of pedestal. Sorry he is dead, but hey....in the long and short.... he had it pretty easy in this world. I can't feel any special empathy for him.
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: stromboli on August 12, 2014, 11:03:05 PM
Quote from: aitm on August 12, 2014, 10:04:40 PM
I am not the best person when it comes to celebrity deaths or illnesses or even life problems.  I do not give them such a place in my life that grants them such status. I am not trying to be an ass, but I do not put people who make a living out of faking their emotions special status. I don't dislike the guy, but I don't have him on any type of pedestal. Sorry he is dead, but hey....in the long and short.... he had it pretty easy in this world. I can't feel any special empathy for him.

This^.  Whenever I see casts of TV shows like Friends getting enormous salaries, it makes me wonder what our priorities are. Paying someone a million an episode whose job it is to pretend to be someone they are not is somehow out of kilter. Considering the fact that there are hundreds of actors out of work for everyone employed, it seems ludicrous to me.
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: Mr.Obvious on August 13, 2014, 04:09:02 AM
I'm always sorry to hear if someone resorts to suicide. It's saddening to realize someone would acually choose death over life.
It sure is going to be weird to see him in movies, say especially his comedies, and think to yourself; he wound up killing himself.
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: SGOS on August 13, 2014, 06:48:21 AM
Quote from: stromboli on August 12, 2014, 11:03:05 PM
This^.  Whenever I see casts of TV shows like Friends getting enormous salaries, it makes me wonder what our priorities are. Paying someone a million an episode whose job it is to pretend to be someone they are not is somehow out of kilter. Considering the fact that there are hundreds of actors out of work for everyone employed, it seems ludicrous to me.
I've thought the same thing before.  While it does require skill, it's a weird skill.  I guess it has something to do with people's obsession with celebrities.  Celebrities become valuable, because people seem to need them.
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: SGOS on August 13, 2014, 06:56:54 AM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on August 13, 2014, 04:09:02 AM
It sure is going to be weird to see him in movies, say especially his comedies, and think to yourself; he wound up killing himself.
Or when they meet some other tragic end.  I have an especially strong reaction when I watch an old Police Squad movie and see OJ Simpson doing a wonderful job of slapstick comedy.  I keep thinking to myself that he's incredibly funny with a true gift, but his real calling seems to be habitually breaking the law.  It's like he's gone and I can't wish him back.
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: SGOS on August 13, 2014, 07:12:07 AM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on August 13, 2014, 04:09:02 AM
I'm always sorry to hear if someone resorts to suicide. It's saddening to realize someone would acually choose death over life.
It's a serious issue for addictive personalities.  At least as far as I can tell from personal experience.  In my first 3 years in AA, I saw 5 people kill themselves, whereas in my previous 50 some years of life, I probably knew personally 3 people who had committed suicide.

You're talking to a guy on Saturday night at an AA meeting, and then on Monday, you're told he killed himself over the weekend.  I believe all of these people I knew also had issues with depression or other mental issues.  Maybe the depression caused both the alcoholism and the suicide.  I don't know.  Whatever; It seems Williams was dealing with both.

Like you, I still can't imagine choosing death over life.  I guess I don't know what it's like to suffer from depression.  It's outside my personal experience.  I can't fully understand feeling that blue.  Over the years, I've hit my personal emotional bottoms, but I've never considered killing myself.
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: StupidWiz on August 13, 2014, 10:13:46 AM
I've been dealing with depression my whole life. It feels like there's no point in living. The feeling like, everybody would not miss me or care about me if I died. Also, there's a lot of "what if" scenarios that is running through your head, blaming the condition that caused you to reach the point of where you are right now, blaming what you should or should not have done and knowing that those moments will never come back to you. You're feeling missed out of something that you believe could have been the true happiness, the only way for you to be happy. Feeling disgust to fakeness that everyone has to wear like masks whenever you're interacting with them. Probably because you're feeling envious at other people whom you believe have achieved the definition of your happiness. Ultimately, there's this feeling that no matter what people do to reach you, you'll always think that they can never understand you.

Some things that have been helping me when those feelings visit me is distractions. Playing games, chatting on FB, fooling around with my brothers, don't let those feelings engulf you, occupy your mind. The thought of there's no god, no one can help me but myself also helps me redefine happiness for me, trying to change my perspective about life and accept the fact that this is my life, as unsatisfying as it is, this is the only life I've got, I don't want to waste it by having pity party and keep feeling alone. I am my knight in shining armor, I am the one who can lift myself from that quicksand of despair. Finally, if all have been done and those feelings are still there, I just go to sleep. Expect the next morning to be like starting over and try to forget the things that make you depressed.

I realize not everyone has the same perspective as mine and I'm not trying to undermine other's experience of depression. I'm just merely describing what I've been through and how I deal with it. I realize that there are other factors that caused Robin Williams to kill himself. Maybe he's been doing what I'm doing and then at age 63, he said, "Enough, this is it." Who knows, and probably no one will ever know.
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: StupidWiz on August 15, 2014, 08:12:50 AM
If anyone's interested to learn more about depression, this guy describes it eloquently.

Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: Munch on August 15, 2014, 08:39:30 AM
It is horrible how he died, a man feeling so lost in life he can't carry on living it and takes his own.

But, in a way, out of the tragic situation of his death, something good may come from it. Suicide has always been an issue thats hard to tackle, and often its forgotten in the public eye. When an everyday man or woman kills themselves, it doesn't reach people in a far reaching way. However when someone famous kills themselves, it has far reaching notice to people across the world, an actor who people have known for years and across the globe suddenly kills himself, it becomes world wide news, and thus more focus on help given to suicide prevention services.

At least thats a theory anyway.
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: Shiranu on August 15, 2014, 05:46:36 PM
It's come out recently that he was struggling with early stage Parkinson's.

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Wife-Robin-Williams-had-early-Parkinson-s-5689032.php
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: SGOS on August 15, 2014, 07:26:50 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on August 15, 2014, 05:46:36 PM
It's come out recently that he was struggling with early stage Parkinson's.

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Wife-Robin-Williams-had-early-Parkinson-s-5689032.php

Odd too.  My favorite movie of his was Awakenings, where he played a doctor trying to make life meaningful for a bunch of patients with a Parkinson's related disease.
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: Berati on August 16, 2014, 03:35:00 PM
I've found that people constantly forget that mental illness is an ILLNESS.
About two years ago my mother fell pretty suddenly into a depression with lots of anxiety. She would cry every day almost all day long, she stopped eating to the point where she fainted and fell, broke her upper arm.
All along though, many of my family and friends were looking for something that would have driven her to depression. It was her mothers death a few years ago, or it was the fight she was having with her sister. No one looks for these kinds of reasons if you suddenly got cancer!
So, my mother went through several different types of meds until a new psychiatrist came up with a dosage that changed things 100%. She is now back to normal.
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: SGOS on August 16, 2014, 09:01:47 PM
Quote from: Berati on August 16, 2014, 03:35:00 PM
I've found that people constantly forget that mental illness is an ILLNESS.
About two years ago my mother fell pretty suddenly into a depression with lots of anxiety. She would cry every day almost all day long, she stopped eating to the point where she fainted and fell, broke her upper arm.
All along though, many of my family and friends were looking for something that would have driven her to depression. It was her mothers death a few years ago, or it was the fight she was having with her sister. No one looks for these kinds of reasons if you suddenly got cancer!
So, my mother went through several different types of meds until a new psychiatrist came up with a dosage that changed things 100%. She is now back to normal.

^Right on!  You can look for reasons like that until you're blue in the face.  But it's body chemistry that is just out of tune.
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: Youssuf Ramadan on August 17, 2014, 07:31:11 AM
No prizes for guessing which bunch of sick fucks are planning to protest Robin Williams' funeral over tolerance to gays...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11039221/Extremist-American-fringe-church-announces-intention-to-picket-Robin-Williamss-funeral-to-protest-gay-tolerance.html
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: Sargon The Grape on August 17, 2014, 11:13:47 AM
Quote from: Youssuf Ramadan on August 17, 2014, 07:31:11 AM
No prizes for guessing which bunch of sick fucks are planning to protest Robin Williams' funeral over tolerance to gays...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11039221/Extremist-American-fringe-church-announces-intention-to-picket-Robin-Williamss-funeral-to-protest-gay-tolerance.html
Why am I not surprised?
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: Jason78 on August 17, 2014, 12:04:59 PM
Quote from: Youssuf Ramadan on August 12, 2014, 05:32:01 AM
Fuck, I thought they said Robbie Williams.....

Same here. 
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: Jason78 on August 17, 2014, 12:05:45 PM
Quote from: Youssuf Ramadan on August 17, 2014, 07:31:11 AM
No prizes for guessing which bunch of sick fucks are planning to protest Robin Williams' funeral over tolerance to gays...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11039221/Extremist-American-fringe-church-announces-intention-to-picket-Robin-Williamss-funeral-to-protest-gay-tolerance.html

Someone's got a death wish.
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: the_antithesis on August 17, 2014, 01:09:45 PM
Quote from: Munch on August 11, 2014, 07:44:53 PM
He also suffered from deep depression, despite being a comedian.

Actually, that somewhat common among comedians.
Title: Re: Robin Williams dead at 63
Post by: DunkleSeele on August 17, 2014, 04:26:36 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on August 15, 2014, 05:46:36 PM
It's come out recently that he was struggling with early stage Parkinson's.

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Wife-Robin-Williams-had-early-Parkinson-s-5689032.php
As someone who knows far too well what Parkinson does to people, I can understand that someone may wish to end their life before it becomes unbearable.