http://time.com/2900967/christian-heavy-metal-band-frontman-admits-hes-actually-an-atheist/
(Can't copy article, on a phone)
Apparently, the "As I Lay Dying" Christian metal group was or is filled with atheists, and according to one member: most Christian bands seemed to be.
Think there's any truth to that?
-Nam
Not really surprising. And kind of funny.
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Well, I always found Christian Death Metal groups humorous.
-Nam
Usually charlatans don't admit to their hypocrisy. He could have just kept on making money, but he had to try to get someone to kill his wife so, atheist or not, he's sure messed up his life.
QuoteHe said in an interview with Alternative Press. “In 12 years of touring with As I Lay Dying, I would say maybe one in 10 Christian bands we toured with were actually Christian bands.â€
Oh my! The Devil is tricking Christians into listening to music and drawing them in to a life of degradation and sin.
Quote from: Nam on June 20, 2014, 05:53:07 AMApparently, the "As I Lay Dying" Christian metal group was or is filled with atheists, and according to one member: most Christian bands seemed to be.
Think there's any truth to that?
I dunno, maybe. Christian music is a really niche scene and it takes a while to get established, so bands that were gung-ho about Christianity and the Christian music scene at the onset often get disillusioned later on or want to appeal to a broader demographic and no longer like being labeled a "Christian band". Also, people naturally change their religious views over time, which can be problematic for people who have presented themselves as diehard Christians.
I'd also like to point out that there's a variety in how pushy they are about it. Some wear it on their sleeve. Some, you'd never know unless you looked it up or read interviews. Christian bands get lampooned as aggressively evangelistic, but that not always the case.
Though not a metal group, I do like Jars of Clay.
-Nam
Simon and Garfunkel started out as a gospel act. So did Hall and Oats. It's hardly anything new.
I read about this and don't believe it for a moment. Why would any atheist be able to act and speak Christian Bull Shit, even for money. What's next, a gothic and satanic band admitting they are really Christians? It doesn't make any sense. But it does make sense if you are a Christian and want to make atheists look bad. Solitary
It's the old bait and switcheroo. I'm an atheist, but found Jesus and now suddenly rich! Such a blessing!
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Quote from: Solitary on June 20, 2014, 05:22:05 PM
I read about this and don't believe it for a moment. Why would any atheist be able to act and speak Christian Bull Shit, even for money. What's next, a gothic and satanic band admitting they are really Christians? It doesn't make any sense. But it does make sense if you are a Christian and want to make atheists look bad. Solitary
Actually I know an atheist who owns a Christian store. They buy a lot of useless Christian based items.
-Nam
Quote from: Solitary on June 20, 2014, 05:22:05 PM
I read about this and don't believe it for a moment. Why would any atheist be able to act and speak Christian Bull Shit, even for money. What's next, a gothic and satanic band admitting they are really Christians? It doesn't make any sense. But it does make sense if you are a Christian and want to make atheists look bad. Solitary
Well sometimes I think that guys like Pat Robertson can't possibly believe their own bullshit. But who knows? Most of those preachers on TV seem like outright scam artists that are in it just for the money and conning old ladies with dementia out of their life savings. I think they are the lowest form of sleazy predators, so it really doesn't make any difference what they believe or don't.
Quote from: Solitary on June 20, 2014, 05:22:05 PM
I read about this and don't believe it for a moment. Why would any atheist be able to act and speak Christian Bull Shit, even for money.
There was a time in my life when I was musician for a living. I played Engelbert Fucking Humperdinck in a shitty lounge act 5 nights a week for $250 cash and I humped my own gear and drove my own car to the gigs. I would have GLADLY played christian rock for $200/show and being able to have roadies hump my gear for me and drive me everywhere. Then again, I'd probably hit my own grandmother over the head with an aluminum snow shovel for $200 cash. Shrug.
Quote from: Solitary on June 20, 2014, 05:22:05 PMI read about this and don't believe it for a moment. Why would any atheist be able to act and speak Christian Bull Shit, even for money.
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You rang?
There are atheist pastors. Doesn't seem too far fetched that they're be atheists in the Christian music scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-WJO0YQLOs
I had to listen to a bunch of actual christian music when I commuted to PA to my studio. I remember at one point with all the mindless in-tune Jesus praising, I wanted to heat op a metal stake and jam it through my ear and out the other side.
Funny story: a local venue owner I know has had personal experience with the guy, said he was the biggest piece of shit ever. When I'm on a device where I can copy and paste (on my Xbox right now), I'll link to a song that the venue owner's band wrote based off the guy.
As for S.E. Cupp, she is simply playing up the "religious liberties are part of the Constitution" card to score more points within her own political realm. Plenty of people in the public and private realm are irreligious (Atheist, Agnostic, Secular, etc) yet play up religion because it has obvious benefits. Other posters in this thread have aptly pointed that out.
To be abundantly clear, S.E. Cupp is right when she says that religious freedoms are a part of the Constitution. They simply are, and she milks that to get ahead in the political arena. She is smart in that sense.
Just look at Benny hin, Pat Robertson, Kenneth copeland or any of their ilk and tell me they are christian. I don't have as big a problem with atheist musicians as I do with those hypocrites. On one exmormon forum I was on a member was a paid piano player at a church, so whatever. One christian bookstore in Utah I used to shop at is owned by Mormons.
Quote from: stromboli on June 23, 2014, 05:09:27 PM
Just look at Benny hin, Pat Robertson, Kenneth copeland or any of their ilk and tell me they are christian. I don't have as big a problem with atheist musicians as I do with those hypocrites. On one exmormon forum I was on a member was a paid piano player at a church, so whatever. One christian bookstore in Utah I used to shop at is owned by Mormons.
Are you implying at the end that Mormons aren't Christians?
-Nam