QuoteSaint Catherine Labouré, D.C.. (May 2, 1806 â€" December 31, 1876) (born Zoe Labouré) was a member of the Daughters of Charity of Saint Vincent de Paul and a Marian visionary who relayed the request from the Blessed Virgin Mary to create the Miraculous Medal worn by millions of Christians, both Roman Catholic and non-denominational.
One thing that i knew about her are her prophecies. The virgin said to her in a visión that archbishop of France was going to die in fourteen years, and this actually happened.
I read this prophecy in a spanish web.
http://www.corazones.org/maria/medalla_milagrosa.htm
QuoteEl clero de ParÃs tendrá muchas vÃctimas..Morirá el señor Arzobispo... ¿cuando ocurrirá esto? y una voz interior asegura: cuarenta años y diez y después la paz
In english:" The clergy will hace a lo of victims... The archbishop will die... When it will happen? And a voice tell her: fourteen years and then and after that the peace"
But I dont know how old is this message. It does not have the same credibility if it was published from before the assassination of the bishot than later. Anyone can help me?
10 million died in ww2 but we get a prophesy about a fifth rate priest? big whoop.
Quote from: aitm on June 18, 2014, 08:30:51 PM
10 million died in ww2 but we get a prophesy about a fifth rate priest? big whoop.
10 million? More like 72 million (combined total allies/axis/civillians).
-Nam
Quote from: aitm on June 18, 2014, 08:30:51 PM
10 million died in ww2 but we get a prophesy about a fifth rate priest? big whoop.
I suppose it's one of those "broken clocks display the right time twice a day" type things. There's so many would be spiritual seers, each saying so many things, that someone is bound to get something right sometime.
Second World War begins much later han 19th century. The question here is how she predicted that in exactly fourteen yearts the archbishop died. When this information was published?
Quote from: sophonian on June 19, 2014, 07:53:54 AM
Second World War begins much later han 19th century. The question here is how she predicted that in exactly fourteen yearts the archbishop died. When this information was published?
How would you explain it?
Quote from: SGOS on June 19, 2014, 07:58:18 AM
How would you explain it?
The pentagram in her back room told her after she sacrificed a lamb to Lucifer.
Quote from: SGOS on June 19, 2014, 07:58:18 AM
How would you explain it?
I don know how. So I created this thread to know an answer. Im starting to explain the miracles that I believed in the past, but there are some like this I dont find any explication.
Quote from: sophonian on June 19, 2014, 08:18:23 AM
I don know how. So I created this thread to know an answer. Im starting to explain the miracles that I believed in the past, but there are some like this I dont find any explication.
I think you mean "explanation." I can only guess as to how she got it right. The bottom line is that no one really knows or can offer good evidence for how. I think the important question here is whether or not knowing means it was divine.
In logic this is called the argument from ignorance:
I don't know.
Therefore it's magic.
Even if you actually believe in magic (or the divine), the logic does not lead to that conclusion. It starts and ends with "I don't know." "I don't know" leads nowhere. If you expect more, you must find more convincing evidence than that you just don't know.
Quote from: SGOS on June 19, 2014, 08:37:24 AM
I think you mean "explanation." I can only guess as to how she got it right. The bottom line is that no one really knows or can offer good evidence for how. I think the important question here is whether or not knowing means it was divine.
In logic this is called the argument from ignorance:
I don't know.
Therefore it's magic.
Even if you actually believe in magic (or the divine), the logic does not lead to that conclusion. It starts and ends with "I don't know." "I don't know" leads nowhere. If you expect more, you must find more convincing evidence than that you just don't know.
I understand your words. The problems with some miracles like this is that the miraculous event is associated with a particular faith -christian, in this case.
Quote from: sophonian on June 19, 2014, 09:21:12 AM
I understand your words. The problems with some miracles like this is that the miraculous event is associated with a particular faith -christian, in this case.
But it still boils down to, "What can you offer as evidence," for whatever "miracle" you point to that the explanation is divine. It makes no difference whether it's a Christian claim or some other religion. What reasonable evidence can be offered? Each religion points to its own favorite miracle, but in each and every case, logically none hold water. It's just what someone believes. Skepticism demands more.
Quote from: sophonian on June 19, 2014, 09:21:12 AM
I understand your words. The problems with some miracles like this is that the miraculous event is associated with a particular faith -christian, in this case.
You don't understand: there are no such things as "miracles". Miracles are defined as something with no known explanation therefore it must be divine: meaning: god did it. Miracles have no basis in reality because god/s have no basis in reality.
-Nam
Quote from: sophonian on June 18, 2014, 08:20:55 PM
One thing that i knew about her are her prophecies. The virgin said to her in a visión that archbishop of France was going to die in fourteen years, and this actually happened.
I read this prophecy in a spanish web.
http://www.corazones.org/maria/medalla_milagrosa.htm
In english:" The clergy will hace a lo of victims... The archbishop will die... When it will happen? And a voice tell her: fourteen years and then and after that the peace"
But I dont know how old is this message. It does not have the same credibility if it was published from before the assassination of the bishot than later. Anyone can help me?
That translation is completely wrong. "cuarenta años y diez y después la paz" means: "Forty years and ten and then peace". That makes it
fifty years, not fourteen.